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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 14:58:05 No.15830990 View View Reply Original Report

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Wish or Draining Kiss?

Moonblast, Ghost Ball, or Psyshock?

Toxic, Swagger, or Calm Mind?

Substitute or Protect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:06:30 No.15831144 Report

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Or at the very list tell me Wish vs. Draining Kiss?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:07:33 No.15831166 Report

Quoted By: >>15831189

Wish. It's more reliable, and you can use it to heal your other Pokémon, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:08:44 No.15831189 Report

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>>15831166
She's IV and EV trained in Sp. Atk and has a base Sp. Attack of 110, Draining Kiss doesn't do a terrible amount of damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:10:17 No.15831212 Report

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Moonblast is The Shit.

GL 5069 3922 9103 (Eevee)

GL 5069 3922 9103 (Eevee) Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:13:04 No.15831253 Report

Quoted By: >>15831279 >>15831298 >>15831326

I use this

Sylveon@leftovers
Calm
Cute charm
252 hp/252 def/4 sp atk
-draining kiss
-shadow ball
-reflect
-calm mind

Makes a super bulky mixed wall that does damage while healing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:15:10 No.15831278 Report

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-Wish
-HYPER VOICE
-Toxic
-Protect
Best setup by far

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:15:10 No.15831279 Report

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>>15831253
Would it be prudent to run that build with wish instead of calm mind so my sylveon can also double as a support pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:16:58 No.15831298 Report

Quoted By: >>15831321 >>15831326 >>15831727

>>15831253
Why would you not use moonblast?
95 power STAB on top of her bulky sp atk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:18:52 No.15831321 Report

Quoted By: >>15831360 >>15839615

>>15831298
I think you mean hyper voice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:19:34 No.15831326 Report

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>>15831253
>>15831298
What matchups besides fairy pokemon would make Moonblast an ineffective attack?

Nothing's IMMUNE to it, and it has a chance of lowering Sp.Def so I'd say STAB + lowered Sp.Def is better in the long run than type bonuses

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:21:52 No.15831360 Report

Quoted By: >>15831387

>>15831321
>hyper voice
>90 base power normal attack
>Moonblast
>95 base power fairy attack
>Sylveon is a fairy type
No I didn't mean hyper voice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:22:44 No.15831374 Report

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Sylveon can't even learn Hyper Voice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:23:02 No.15831387 Report

Quoted By: >>15831444

>>15831360
>Pixilate
>+30% damage on top of STAB
Which would make hyper voice stronger

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:27:33 No.15831444 Report

Quoted By: >>15831625 >>15831710 >>15831719

>>15831387
>Pixelate

Really?

Her Cute Charm ability is MUCH more useful in deterring physical attackers because of her low natural defense, and her high natural Sp.Def.

Using a pokemon as slow as Sylveon as an all-out attacker is stupid anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:38:31 No.15831625 Report

Quoted By: >>15831879

>>15831444
>her
>twice

dayum

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:43:43 No.15831710 Report

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>>15831444
Cute charm doesn't prevent a 1HKO though.
Its best to go with Pixelate + Hyper Voice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:44:02 No.15831719 Report

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>>15831444
Pixilate gives a +30% boost before STAB which it also gets too. so it gets...a 175 BP Hyper Voice?

Hyper voice also hits past substitutes and hits adjacent opponents in multi.

Moonblast is 142 BP at best and only hits one target.

GL 5069 3922 9103 (Eevee)

GL 5069 3922 9103 (Eevee) Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:44:22 No.15831727 Report

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>>15831298
Because moonblast would necessitate wish for healing. Draining kiss does both with one moveslot. Not as effectively as either but lets you run different moves. And after a calm mind or 2 or 3 it deals decent damage. Especially with all the fighting and dark and dragons running around.

GL 5069 3922 9103 (Eevee)

GL 5069 3922 9103 (Eevee) Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:52:21 No.15831879 Report

Quoted By: >>15831893

>>15831625
You should be running a female sylveon for cute charm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:53:05 No.15831893 Report

Quoted By: >>15831986

>>15831879
It's sooooooooo fucking hard to get a female Eevee with good stats though

GL 5069 3922 9103 (Eevee)

GL 5069 3922 9103 (Eevee) Mon 11 Nov 2013 15:57:08 No.15831986 Report

Quoted By: >>15838188

>>15831893
One of mine had 5 perfect ivs in everything but Hp. I settled for it since it was female and most likely the best I was going to get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 18:37:33 No.15835399 Report

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I'm running
Moon blast
wish
reflect
calm mind
How do you get hyper voice? I thought it was tutor only for gen 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 20:24:40 No.15838188 Report

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>>15831986
>everything but HP

you dun goofed

Speed you could have sacrificed. Hell, you could have even sacrificed Sp.Def

But HP? You have a dead pokemon in 2 turns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2013 21:10:42 No.15839615 Report

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>>15831321
sylveon can't get hyper voice, what are you even on

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