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Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:38:42 No.15846164 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15846231 >>15846279 >>15846390 >>15846392 >>15846684 >>15849632 >>15849683

God damn Mega's are fucking stupid. The fact that they're allowed online is stupid as fuck also.

What am I meant to do against any of the Megas that break 140 speed? This is honestly the biggest joke. It wouldn't even be bad if megas were single player only, but they're not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:40:10 No.15846231 Report

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>>15846164
>What am I meant to do against any of the Megas that break 140 speed?
Priority attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:40:53 No.15846264 Report

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I just trick room those niggers in doubles. It somewhat alleviates how overpowered a few of them are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:41:09 No.15846279 Report

Quoted By: >>15846489

>>15846164
Talonflame shits on Megachicken, Megagar dies to any powerful STAB move, including priority. Mega Mawile is as slow as shit and dies to fire or ground.

Get good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:43:10 No.15846361 Report

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>Megas
>140 speed
>Doesn't mention using choice scarf
Oh look. The answer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:43:09 No.15846362 Report

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Hope you didn't forget to bring a counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:43:19 No.15846368 Report

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Mega Khan and Mawile are legit. They needed a boost to be viable, and Mega brings them a nice boost while locking them out of useful hold items.

Unfortunately they gave megas mostly to powerful popular pokemon that didn't need a boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:43:22 No.15846371 Report

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Literally all you have to do is use any semblance of strategy. But I'm sure you just spam close combat or something and get surprised when you lose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:43:48 No.15846390 Report

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>>15846164
>God damn Mega's are fucking stupid. The fact that they're allowed online is stupid as fuck also
why is that? can't beat them, they are easy for the rest of us maybe you suck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:43:49 No.15846392 Report

Quoted By: >>15846422

>>15846164
I love Shofu

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:43:57 No.15846397 Report

Quoted By: >>15846489

Choice scarf Gengar vs. Mega Gengar...Choice Scarf Gengar wins with just one shadowball
Imposter Ditto with choice scarf is also an option
GaleWings Talon Flame shits all over Mega Blaziken and MegaMawhile if played right

Most megas are physical attackers so just burn them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:44:59 No.15846422 Report

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>>15846392
Started watching his videos a few days ago. His live commentary is garbage, but the rest is decent. He's a pretty good player.

Dej 3539 - 9374 - 6768 (Spearow, Hoothoot, Rufflet)

Dej 3539 - 9374 - 6768 (Spearow, Hoothoot, Rufflet) Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:45:56 No.15846462 Report

Quoted By: >>15846500 >>15846619

I'm surprised I never see Scarf'd Imposter Ditto online. They get rid of any Mega I have problems with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:46:08 No.15846467 Report

Quoted By: >>15846799

If you could only use them in-game, they'd be pointless.

And they're not broken. Most of them are sidegrades rather than upgrades.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:46:49 No.15846489 Report

Quoted By: >>15846596 >>15846597 >>15847024

>>15846397
>>15846279
What's a good set for talonflame?
I already got the EVs down, not sure about IVs.
any help?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:47:01 No.15846500 Report

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>>15846462
Fucking scarves are expensive

I'm working on getting one, but I've been breeding all this time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:48:44 No.15846551 Report

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Get a talonflame

Ai Qin [5043-1897-0283][Machoke - Pancham]

Ai Qin [5043-1897-0283][Machoke - Pancham] Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:50:14 No.15846596 Report

Quoted By: >>15846652

>>15846489
Adamant nature, everything except Sp.Atk

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:50:15 No.15846597 Report

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>>15846489
If you're running the Choice Band variant, Brave Bird/Flare Blitz/U-Turn/Steel Wing

If you're running a booster variant, Brave Bird/Flare Blitz/Swords Dance or Bulk Up/Roost

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:50:53 No.15846610 Report

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>What am I meant to do against any of the Megas that break 140 speed?
MegaZam, MegaDactyl, shit I'll even give you MegaGar because of its trapping ability. Those are difficult to deal with?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:51:12 No.15846619 Report

Quoted By: >>15849759

>>15846462
I use one. It's fun as fuck to use.

>let their mega set up as much as they want and let them KO me
>bring in ditto
>revenge kill
>sweep the rest of their team with their own mega and virtually have two megas on my team

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:52:10 No.15846652 Report

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>>15846596
As I said, breeding is already done. 5 IVs, not SPA, Gale wing
>>15846597
So acrobatics isn't worth it, then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:53:23 No.15846684 Report

Quoted By: >>15847192

>>15846164
>What am I meant to do against any of the Megas that break 140 speed?

What, all 4 of them?

>Alakazam
>Shit, no one uses

>Aerodactyl
>waste of a mega

>Mewtwo Y
>implying any Mewtwo on wifi isn't complete trash

>Gengar
>Got me there

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:54:25 No.15846718 Report

Quoted By: >>15846913

What does anyone think about Mega Heracross?
Thinking about running it on my team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:56:24 No.15846779 Report

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Most people who use megas all do the same thing
Most seem to just be able to be taken down with a Clawitzer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:56:56 No.15846799 Report

Quoted By: >>15846865 >>15846878

>>15846467
>Plus 100 BST
>Sidegrade

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:59:08 No.15846865 Report

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>>15846799
>can't use an item

For some of them, "sidegrade" sounds about right. Only a handful are worth sacrificing the mega slot for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 00:59:34 No.15846878 Report

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>>15846799
Stat spread makes a difference in usability over the original.

Take Garchomp for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:00:47 No.15846913 Report

Quoted By: >>15847053

>>15846718
Whilst there a lot of megas that get called bad due to them having separate niches to their regular forms, and thus effectively being specific sidegrades rather than straight buffs, Megacross is legitimately worse in every way than standard Heracross. There is literally no reason to use it, less attack power than with lifeorb/guts/band, slower than all variations, and with no form of recovery is less durable than sub+leftovers, even with the added bulk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:03:08 No.15846985 Report

Quoted By: >>15847005

sounds like OP needs to git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:03:37 No.15847005 Report

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>>15846985
epic :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:04:27 No.15847024 Report

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>>15846489
I got my mega mawhile killed by a talonflame that used willow wisp. Was expecting some attacking move like Flare Blizt.

Brave Bird
Flare Blitz
Roost
Will-o-Wisp/Swordsdance/Bulkup

It needs life orb to hit hard and I don't recommend leftovers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:05:26 No.15847053 Report

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>>15846913
>Megacross is legitimately worse in every way than standard Heracross.
No it isn't. Megacross is much better at taking down bulky waters and Mega Gengar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:05:46 No.15847064 Report

Quoted By: >>15847111 >>15847214

on a related note, is anyone else surprised by how damn good talonflame is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:07:11 No.15847111 Report

Quoted By: >>15847163 >>15847919

>>15847064
Not really since everyone is jizzing over mons with priority moves currently

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:08:36 No.15847163 Report

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>>15847111
It's what OU is all about now. Wait for UU to become weather-based

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:09:36 No.15847192 Report

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>>15846684
Gengar's at 130.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:10:25 No.15847214 Report

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>>15847064
Sort of. It's been my main in story mode; I didn't anticipate using it constantly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:12:02 No.15847269 Report

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>not scarfing your entire team
wow...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:14:45 No.15847334 Report

Quoted By: >>15847387 >>15847419

What's so bad about Mega Alakazam? He seems like a special goddamned nuke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:17:00 No.15847387 Report

Quoted By: >>15847419 >>15847452

>>15847334
Weaker than Life Orb Alakazam if you want power
Slower than Scarfzam if you want speed
Less bulky than Focus Sash Alakazam if you want a revenge killer.

Combining the jobs together, getting that 20 base speed increase and attack increase is pretty great and if anyone had an actual choice besides only one mega, they'd definitely use the +20% speed/Attack with no drawbacks item over any other item any day of the week

But if you look at dedicated sets and builds for the sake of individual situations wherein Alakazam could be doing X or could be doing Y, Mega Alakazam is outclassed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:18:10 No.15847419 Report

Quoted By: >>15847624

>>15847334

Trace is a downgrade from Magic Guard.

Along with what >>15847387 said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:19:16 No.15847452 Report

Quoted By: >>15847624

>>15847387
Everything you just said plus Magic Guard is a much better ability than Trace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:24:58 No.15847624 Report

Quoted By: >>15847972

>>15847419
>>15847452
It's sort of situational though. What would you really use Magic Guard for besides stopping rocks from breaking your sash, which you can't use with a mega stone?
If you're getting toxic stalled, there's like an 80% chance your opponent has natural cure or poison heal that you trace. You still even avoid rocks/spikes damage upon entering before you mega evolve, and that doesn't exactly help life orb alakazam all too much usually.

For the most part, Trace is okay for the sake of something that can't actually ever use a focus sash and matches almost 95% of the damage output from the life orb set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:33:55 No.15847919 Report

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>>15847111
no i get that, i meant more in the sense that it's the regional bird, one of the first pokemon you can get and it's firmly in OU. it just came out of nowhere when i got the game, i was expecting it to be terrible with that typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:35:29 No.15847972 Report

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>>15847624
>80% chance your opponent has natural cure or poison heal
>damn near everything learns toxic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 01:39:03 No.15848103 Report

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trace is situationally amazing and youve got complete control of when to activate it
if you dont really have a crucial mon already using mega a clutch trace can be good
is it worth losing scarf/life orb for? prob not

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 02:15:21 No.15849268 Report

Quoted By: >>15849571

USE FUCKING BULLET PUNCH YOU FUCKING IDIOT. GENGAR ISNT GOING TO LIVE IT FOR FUCKS SAKE, STOP BEING A WHINNY BITCH BULLET PUNCH BULLET PUNCH BULLET PUNCH GODDAMNIT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 02:23:38 No.15849571 Report

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>>15849268
your jimmies seem rustled

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 02:25:30 No.15849632 Report

Quoted By: >>15849733

>>15846164
How are there four megas there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 02:26:58 No.15849683 Report

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>>15846164

>Babies are complaining megas are OP
>Babies are complaining megas are usless

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 02:28:47 No.15849733 Report

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>>15849632

Multi-Battle.

Two players per team, one mega per player.

Duck 5258-0018-2331 (Tangela, Petilil, Maractus)

Duck 5258-0018-2331 (Tangela, Petilil, Maractus) Tue 12 Nov 2013 02:29:33 No.15849759 Report

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>>15846619
Using there own precious pokemon to destroy them is the most satisfying thing.

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