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Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 16:40:59 No.15865183 View View Reply Original Report

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So according to Smogon, these are the new Crit Rates per boost, where 1 is the base crit.

1: 6.75%
2: ???
3: 50%
4: 100%

Crit damage is nerfed from 2x to 1.5x to compensate for the 100% rate with just +3.

Crits ignore all stat boosts on the defendng AND attacking pokemon, being based only on base stats (Tested to death with dittos).

What do you think about it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 16:43:40 No.15865250 Report

Quoted By: >>15865358

>Crits after buffing your own attack are meaningless

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 16:44:35 No.15865262 Report

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that's bullshit and you know it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 16:44:39 No.15865267 Report

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So what you saying is that Farfetched + Stick = guaranteed crits?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 16:45:20 No.15865278 Report

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We Gen 1 now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 16:48:41 No.15865358 Report

Quoted By: >>15865471 >>15865565 >>15865685 >>15865879

>>15865250

Pokemon with 3 of
>Super Luck
>Scope Lens
>Focus Energy
>A crit move

Will get 100% crits anytime

This means, for example, Absol, after setting up FE can use Super Power over and over and over and never lose any damage.

But life orb is probably better than losing defense stages

Same goes for Draco Meteor. Kingdra learns it and has Sniper. You can have a 50% chance to crit Draco Meteor for 1.5x + 1.5x + 1.5x on a 130 base damage move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 16:49:26 No.15865375 Report

Quoted By: >>15865507 >>15865962

>Crits ignore all stat boosts on the defendng AND attacking pokemon, being based only on base stats (Tested to death with dittos).
This is the only part not mentioned anywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 16:49:31 No.15865376 Report

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So Air Cutter + Stick (or any attack with Focus energy) means 100% Crit chance?
Thta's cool I guess. Won't make much of a difference, but at least they tried to buff Farfetch'd in a way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 16:52:58 No.15865471 Report

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>>15865358
Actually, with Focus Energy, you only need one of the others. So you can still use Life Orb alongside FE+Superluck (at least according to the smogon thread)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 16:54:40 No.15865507 Report

Quoted By: >>15865528 >>15865859

>>15865375
>When a move scores a critical hit, damage is calculated based on either the modified or unmodified attack and defense stats, whichever is more advantageous to the attacker. For example, an attacker who has used Swords Dance and then makes a critical hit will get the benefit of the increased Attack, while one affected by Charm will use its normal Attack score.

Basically, if you have lowered offensive stats, and you would do more damage with your base stats, criticals will use the base stats.

If you have heightened offense, it will use the boost instead.

So you can Focus energy and Swords Dance on the same mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 16:55:51 No.15865528 Report

Quoted By: >>15865570

>>15865507
But OP said the exact opposite, which is what I was wanting source on.
I know what you stated happened in past gens already. And from my in game playing, I believe it's still the same for Gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 16:57:06 No.15865560 Report

Quoted By: >>15865826

Scope Lens + Focus Energy = 100% crit on anything.

Ran SmashPass + 100% crit Hydreigon for shits and giggles. Only lost because of Draco Miss 2 times in a row against randoms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 16:57:16 No.15865565 Report

Quoted By: >>15865596

>>15865358

I don't think Absol even gets Focus Energy. You can still get 50% Superpower crits or 100% Night Slash and Psycho Cut crits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 16:57:20 No.15865570 Report

Quoted By: >>15865859

>>15865528

Nah, OP said that it always ignores. Crits selectively ignore boosts instead. So running Super Power Crits is completely possible. And if you do it on someone with lowered defense, it's even better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 16:58:21 No.15865596 Report

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>>15865565
Oh you're right. I thought it did, since it already has a stupidly big movepool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:00:56 No.15865641 Report

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I want to see Beedril versus Farfetched in UU now.

4270-0666-7307 espurr, drowzee, gothitelle

4270-0666-7307 espurr, drowzee, gothitelle Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:02:24 No.15865665 Report

Quoted By: >>15865699

How does this work with things like frost breath and storm throw?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:02:30 No.15865666 Report

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So crits do basically damage as if the user has unaware but with a x1.5 modifier?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:03:21 No.15865685 Report

Quoted By: >>15865735 >>15865780

>>15865358

Goddammit if only Farfetch'd had Super Luck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:03:58 No.15865699 Report

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>>15865665
Those are always 100% anyways.

They got buffed on gen 6 from 40 to 60 BP. So essentially, they were a 80 move gone up to a 90 move. And you can't reduce this damage while you can boost it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:05:37 No.15865735 Report

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>>15865685
Farfetch'd can use Stick and it has a ton of moves with increased crit ratio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:07:02 No.15865780 Report

Quoted By: >>15865837 >>15865844

>>15865685
Farfetched has Stick, which is +2. And it learns every other crit move except stone edge.

He's one of THE 100% crit pokemon unless you're retarded.

Give it defiant, walk in on any pokemon with Intimidate and you get +1 in attack boost. Guaranteed crits and +1 Attack turn one. Still NU probably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:08:26 No.15865826 Report

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>>15865560
>100% crit Flare Boost Drifloon

I think i just shat my pants

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:08:43 No.15865837 Report

Quoted By: >>15865859

>>15865780
Except the +1 doesn't affect crits to begin with, unless for some reason you don't carry a crit move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:08:57 No.15865844 Report

Quoted By: >>15865890

>>15865780

Oh fug

Using one now, if only his speed wasn't balls

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:09:36 No.15865859 Report

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>>15865837
It does affect, read:
>>15865507
>>15865570

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:10:16 No.15865879 Report

Quoted By: >>15865971

>>15865358

Kinda wish Gallade got Focus Energy now. Wouldn't be more than a gimmick but it'd be pretty funny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:10:44 No.15865890 Report

Quoted By: >>15865898

>>15865844
Just use anything with Focus energy and Scoped Lens. There's a post about Siper Kingdra and Draco Meteor up there. It's actually 100% crit, if Kingdra learns Focus Energy (Does it?)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:11:06 No.15865898 Report

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>>15865890

Fuck that, I like Farfetch'd

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:14:02 No.15865962 Report

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>>15865375

Wait, so does this mean that you'll get crits that do lower damage than your regular attacks again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:14:29 No.15865971 Report

Quoted By: >>15866125

>>15865879
>Read up on Bisharp
>No Focus energy
For a moment, I saw a glimpse of toddler tears in multiplayer.

I don't care it's a gimmick. The sheer fact that you can go beat legendaries with consistent crits will be having the world burn in cries of "OMG HACKERS!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:14:34 No.15865975 Report

Quoted By: >>15866016

On another note: Is Chatter 100% confusion now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:16:12 No.15866016 Report

Quoted By: >>15866040

>>15865975
Generation VI

Chatter's power changed from 60 to 65. However, the move can no longer be used to record sound. Instead, the move will always confuse the target. Despite no longer being able to record sound, Chatter still cannot be copied by Sketch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:17:04 No.15866040 Report

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>>15866016
Thanks nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:20:20 No.15866125 Report

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>>15865971

Yeah, I'd have liked that. I guess I could still get 50% with Scope Lens and Leaf Blade, Psycho Cut or Night Slash but the lack of consistency hurts. A 50% crit Sucker Punch on Honchkrow or Absol still sounds pretty funny though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:26:14 No.15866282 Report

Quoted By: >>15866621

So, how can I get my Kingdra to do 100% crit?

I wanna try this shit out

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:31:15 No.15866420 Report

Quoted By: >>15866503

>Kingdra
>Octillery

Both of these have sniper and focus energy. Farfetch'd has stick.

Fun times ahead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:35:09 No.15866503 Report

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>>15866420

Farfetched, the tryndamere or pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2013 17:40:17 No.15866621 Report

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>>15866282
Focus Energy + crit item.
Sniper had always been a 1.5x multiplier on the base critical hit damage, so it's technically nerfed to 2.25x (basically makes crits slightly stronger than the old crits).

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