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NM2 !RUQvC7GrnY Wed 13 Nov 2013 14:44:20 No.15893971 View View Reply Original Report

Now that one month has passed since X/Y were released, let's try this again.

>first set of Regionals over
>Darkrai EX still dominating
>new first turn rules and Catcher errata now into effect
>XY1 coming out on February 5th
>first Mega Evolution card revealed: M Venusaur EX
>zero progress being made on PTCGO

TotT: Opinions on M Venusaur EX the following two cards.

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NM2 !RUQvC7GrnY Wed 13 Nov 2013 14:46:44 No.15893999 Report

Quoted By: >>15898825

First card:

Garchomp EX
HP: 170
[F][C] Dual Chop, Flip 2 coins, 30 for each heads.
[W][F][C] Power Blast, 120 damage, discard one energy.
Weakness: [Y]
RC: 2

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NM2 !RUQvC7GrnY Wed 13 Nov 2013 14:48:57 No.15894016 Report

Quoted By: >>15894079 >>15894096 >>15894815 >>15895426 >>15898825

Second card:

Greninja
HP: 130
Ability: Water Shuriken. Discard one [W] from your hand and put 3 damage counters on one of your opponent's Pokémon. You can only use one Water Shuriken per turn.
[W] Mist Slice, 50 damage, not affected by weakness, resistance or any other effects.
Weakness: [G]
RC: 1

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 14:50:34 No.15894037 Report

Quoted By: >>15894155 >>15894197

pff, I wish I could get back into the Pokemon card game, it's just packs of cards these days cost shit tones.
£9.99 for a pack of twelve? sign me up!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 14:53:51 No.15894070 Report

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>playing Pokemon TCG
I seriously do not understand. I get that you really love Pokemon, but why compromise? If you wanna play a TCG, play a real TCG like Magic. Pokemon doesn't have to define everything you do.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 14:54:33 No.15894079 Report

Quoted By: >>15894155

>>15894016
that card

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 14:56:31 No.15894096 Report

Quoted By: >>15894144 >>15894155

>>15894016
>130 HP
>not affected by weakness
WHY
It could have been good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 15:01:11 No.15894144 Report

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>>15894096
No starter card will ever be as good as Blastoise, except for Feraligatr which was identical.

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NM2 !RUQvC7GrnY Wed 13 Nov 2013 15:02:13 No.15894155 Report

Quoted By: >>15894185 >>15894231 >>15898825

>>15894037
>£9.99 for a pack of twelve?
What. PTCG boosters come with 10 cards and cost 4$/€/£ at most, even less if you buy online.

>>15894079
>>15894096
I actually like it a lot. Placing damage with abilities has been really missed since Crobat G rotated out. I hope it doesn't suffer the same fate as Chandelure which got destroyed by EX's.

Also, another card: Evolution Soda
>Search your deck for a card that evolves from 1 of your Pokémon and put it onto that Pokémon. (This counts as evolving that Pokémon.) You can't use this card during your first turn or on a Pokémon that was put into play this turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 15:04:57 No.15894185 Report

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>>15894155
Troll and Toad sells packs of the latest blocks for 2.50 each, but they got kind of shitty shipping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 15:06:45 No.15894197 Report

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>>15894037
You could try TCG Online, which gives you some starter decks which is nice to learn. Then you can use your shekels to buy real packs, which include a code card to open a pack in game too!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 15:09:30 No.15894231 Report

Quoted By: >>15894711

>>15894155
So what is the point of that if you could just, say, use an Item card that lets you get a Pokemon in your hand, from which you then evolve? Does it let you put a Stage 2 on a Basic Pokemon?

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NM2 !RUQvC7GrnY Wed 13 Nov 2013 15:42:30 No.15894711 Report

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>>15894231
Well, it goes through shit like Archeops' ability, not that anyone plays that. You can also avoid discarding cards with Ultra Ball. But yeah, I can't see anything else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 15:50:50 No.15894815 Report

Quoted By: >>15895196

>>15894016
Looks sweet, what works well with this in the format?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:18:43 No.15895196 Report

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>>15894815
Kingdra, I guess.

But Empoleon is way better than Greninja. The extra damage is nice, but Empoleon is a much better attacker, it can use the ability to discard multiple energies each turn, and Diving Draw means the deck can get by with less supporters.

Greninja's 1 retreat is an advantage since it can be used to discard additional energy sometimes, but Empoleon just outclasses it. And even the Empoleon-variant is really frail and slow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:28:05 No.15895303 Report

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I think the new cards are mostly building up for when XY-on starts. So far everything we've seen has been fairly balanced with each other, but less powerful than most BW power cards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:35:18 No.15895426 Report

Quoted By: >>15895598

>>15894016
I really wish that's a mistranslation, and you can actually use one Water Shuriken / turn with each Greninja individually. That could be a really fun deck.

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NM2 !RUQvC7GrnY Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:46:57 No.15895584 Report

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Coming Feb 19th.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:48:03 No.15895598 Report

Quoted By: >>15895628 >>15895734

>>15895426
You can use it once per Greninja. It has the same Japanese wording as Empoleon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:50:38 No.15895628 Report

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>>15895598
Fuck yeah, that's amazing. Maybe my favorite card in a good while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:51:38 No.15895643 Report

Quoted By: >>15895734 >>15895735

>tfw you want to play pokemon tcg again
>everyone who attends local comic ship is pretty much 8-12
>I'm 25

Is there an alternative for me?

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NM2 !RUQvC7GrnY Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:57:00 No.15895734 Report

Quoted By: >>15895795 >>15896043

>>15895643
Pokémon TCG Online, if you're into it. http://www.pokemontcg.com/
Or search for other Leagues near you.

>>15895598
That's good news. Let's see how easy/hard swarming Stage 2's will be after XY1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:57:04 No.15895735 Report

Quoted By: >>15895795

>>15895643
Play TCG Online. It's cheaper anyway since you can get code cards for low prices.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:01:30 No.15895795 Report

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>>15895734
>>15895735

How many people play tcg online? Like, how many people in general, and on /vp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:19:37 No.15896043 Report

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>>15895734
Level balls and Evolution Soda should be everything needed to swarm, and if they reprint Communication, it's going to be very easy.

I just tried out the Empoleon Knigdra deck. It really is held back by Empoleon's retreat cost. Greninja is going to kick so much ass with Kingdra, or possibly even alone.

TenFold [IGN: Ben]~[FC: 5069-5240-7348]~[Safari: Spearow/Swanna/Hawlucha] !j22b6IwCk6

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TenFold [IGN: Ben]~[FC: 5069-5240-7348]~[Safari: Spearow/Swanna/Hawlucha] !j22b6IwCk6 Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:31:39 No.15896288 Report

Quoted By: >>15896403 >>15896416 >>15896425

i'd be lying if i said i didn't miss the TCG, it's just the new EX's completely ruined the game with it's ridiculous power creep and not to mention the price, it's almost worth playing something like yugioh or MTG for the kind of money pokemon is asking now, at least they have better organized play/prize support.

I'll probably get back into the game after this EX era unless they create a new "solution" to phase out EX's that's even worse or more broken...

I miss the haymaker days....

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:36:45 No.15896403 Report

Quoted By: >>15896450

>>15896288
>complain about big basics ruling the game
>feel nostalgic about big basics ruling the game

Dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:37:10 No.15896416 Report

Quoted By: >>15896450 >>15896469

>>15896288

I have been out of the loop since like Gen 5, what are some of the more expensive cards? Last expensive card I saw was the secret rare gust of wind from a few sets back.

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NM2 !RUQvC7GrnY Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:37:35 No.15896425 Report

Quoted By: >>15896450 >>15896459

>>15896288
>I miss the haymaker days....
Mewtwo EX, Darkrai EX and Catcher ARE the haymaker days.

TenFold [IGN: Ben]~[FC: 5069-5240-7348]~[Safari: Spearow/Swanna/Hawlucha] !j22b6IwCk6

TenFold [IGN: Ben]~[FC: 5069-5240-7348]~[Safari: Spearow/Swanna/Hawlucha] !j22b6IwCk6 Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:39:01 No.15896450 Report

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>>15896425
>>15896416
>>15896403
Probably wasn't enough emphasis on my sarcasm

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:39:28 No.15896459 Report

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>>15896425

He might be refering to the original electabuzz/hitmonchan/scyther haymaker, all inexpensive rares.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:39:58 No.15896469 Report

Quoted By: >>15896529 >>15896560

>>15896416
Tropical Beach is 250$, it's a Worlds' promo that is really important for a large number of decks.

Pokémon Catcher used to be really expensive for an uncommon card, but they reprinted it a ton now so it's no longer a problem.

Other than that, the prices are kept pretty low because they release the strongest ultra rare cards in tins. That sets a ceiling to the secondary market price.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:43:23 No.15896529 Report

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>>15896469

>$250 promo only at worlds

Why isn't it just a worlds print version of an already printed card?

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TenFold [IGN: Ben]~[FC: 5069-5240-7348]~[Safari: Spearow/Swanna/Hawlucha] !j22b6IwCk6 Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:43:49 No.15896534 Report

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i got to admit, i lost my shit when i saw that pokemon catcher will now require a flip, couldn't stop laughing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:45:34 No.15896560 Report

Quoted By: >>15896651 >>15896683

>>15896469
>it's a Worlds' promo that is really important for a large number of decks

Blastoise is the only one it's really considered necessary in and even that can run fine without it.

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NM2 !RUQvC7GrnY Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:50:46 No.15896651 Report

Quoted By: >>15896999

>>15896560
With the new first turn rule that prevents the player going first from attacking T1, Tropical Beach is extremely useful to almost every single deck.

Regarding Tropical Beach though, it and Champion's Festival were outright banned in the latest Battle Festa in Japan. I wouldn't mind it being completely banned if they won't bother to fix its distribution problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:52:20 No.15896683 Report

Quoted By: >>15896999

>>15896560
Everything that doesn't run Virizion EX, Kyurem, Mewtwo EX or Sableye needs it. Though that covers everything except Blastoise.

Everything from Flareon and Empoleon to Toolbox and Garchomp really needs Beach to compete.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 18:08:22 No.15896999 Report

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>>15896651
Oh yeah, that's right. My brain was still stuck in previous rule format for some reason.

I hope they either ban it or allow people to use the World Championship version of it in tournaments.

>>15896683
I was mostly thinking of the big decks, so yeah, it's true those other less used ones need it more. Empoleon can get by without it thanks to a Call for Family Pokémon of your choice, though with the turn 1 change, it's probably better off with it too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 19:37:35 No.15898825 Report

Quoted By: >>15900775 >>15902502

>>15893971

Venusaur EX is a heavier duty Articuno EX in what is currently the weakest type. The only Grass deck ATM is Genesect/Virizion and they don't really have room for it, although I wouldn't rule out seeing Virizion/Venusaur in the future.

As of currently I'd rather play Articuno EX.

>>15893999

Basically Tornadus EX that requires two energy types, has a worse first attack, one more for retreat and a second attack that does 20 more but always has to discard an energy. So probably a bit worse than Tornadus who wasn't brilliant in the first place.

>>15894016

Unsuited for the current format. It's a Stage 2 that sits on your bench yet isn't called Blastoise, its effect wants a slow game yet slow games don't exist, and its attack is too weak. Won't see high level play.

>>15894155

Definitely going to see a lot of play. It's Wally's Training but better in so many ways, unless you're staring down Gothitelle of course

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 20:58:58 No.15900689 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 21:02:12 No.15900775 Report

Quoted By: >>15902524

>>15898825
Greninja has potential, and Soda is way outclassed by Ultra Ball. Do you even lift?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 22:08:32 No.15902502 Report

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>>15898825
How expensive is genesect/virizion, and how hard is it to pilot, anyways?

I'm looking into cheap things to get into playing again, and I defs want to play some combo/control.

I personally loved Mewbox/CoKE/CoKEShaMe when they were legal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 22:09:17 No.15902524 Report

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>>15900775

Maybe in something like Unlimited 150 Greninja has potential, but not in Modified.

And I'm going to pretend that was all you put.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 23:52:11 No.15905648 Report

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Does anyone have any legendary treasures TCGO codes lying around?

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