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Mega Charizard X alternate build

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 15:59:10 No.15894907 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15894954 >>15895442 >>15895696 >>15896060

Best set outside of Dragon Dance for this guy?

I want to use my Charizard from 2004 (Fire Red) when Pokebank hits.

He has max IVs because PokeGen, but let's not discuss that ITT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:01:26 No.15894937 Report

Quoted By: >>15894955 >>15894958 >>15894965 >>15895036

>lets use my bro i hacked hurdurr
>what SETS ON THIS GUY THAT ARE CREATIVE IM NOT

spoilers there are none. all sets are shit because he has fucking 78 hp and takes 50% from sneaky pebbles switching in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:02:40 No.15894954 Report

Quoted By: >>15895048

>>15894907
Well, I suppose you could scarf him. Just run whatever hyper offensive moves you got, and click and pray.

why not just remake him in Pokegen again, or if you want to be anal about it just make his children have it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:02:46 No.15894955 Report

Quoted By: >>15894976

>>15894937
Reel it in, cowboy. What is with /vp/ recently? More hostile than /b/ in here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:03:01 No.15894958 Report

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>>15894937
Objectively retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:03:24 No.15894965 Report

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>>15894937
>Implying people use sneaky pebbles in 3x3
>Implying not using it as a lead

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:04:32 No.15894976 Report

Quoted By: >>15894999 >>15895036

>>15894955
We have a questions general for stupid questions. We have a competitive and wifi general for stupid build questions.

More than 50% of the threads on this board are huur friend safari or hurr how do I ev spread my Alakazam? Pokemon is glorified rock paper scissors with arguably less depth, figure it the fuck out you stupid bitch.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:06:29 No.15894999 Report

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>>15894976
>figure it the fuck out you stupid bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:07:44 No.15895028 Report

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He's a good mixed sweeper or wallbreaker. Fire/dragon is a great type but he doesn't have the bulk to abuse it. Still a great dual stab. He's pretty weak to offensive pokemon, especially without dd. Don't run belly drum. Does he get tailwind?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:08:12 No.15895036 Report

Quoted By: >>15895068 >>15895284

>>15894937
>Fantastic typing
>Not leading with it
>Tough Claws Boost being a life orb without recoil
>Not running a defogger/spinner period.

>>15894976
Confirmed for having their panties in a bunch over someone trying to have fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:09:04 No.15895048 Report

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>>15894954
>scarf on a mega-evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:10:38 No.15895068 Report

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>>15895036
Leading with it is such a waste. Not particularly hard to revenge kill and any decent lead can set up while it dicks around.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:20:36 No.15895216 Report

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Would Swords Dance work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:25:00 No.15895263 Report

Quoted By: >>15895300 >>15895302 >>15895648 >>15895724 >>15895864 >>15895936 >>15895949 >>15896189

The bulky set with Will-O-Wisp and Roost is pretty good.

Charizard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 104 HP / 220 Atk / 8 SDef / 176 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Dragon Claw
- Will-O-Wisp
- Roost

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:27:01 No.15895284 Report

Quoted By: >>15895322 >>15895365

>>15895036
>lead with greninja with toxic spikes
>opponent leaded with charizard
>opponent takes charizard back
>throw free toxic spikes

kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:28:00 No.15895300 Report

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>>15895263
>that thread last night where everyone fought over this set

So it IS good?

1247-0122-1521

1247-0122-1521 Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:28:03 No.15895302 Report

Quoted By: >>15895374

>>15895263
what do these ivs let you accomplish?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:29:06 No.15895322 Report

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>>15895284
Why would Mega Charizard X switch out of Greninja?

Also
>leaded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:31:45 No.15895365 Report

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>>15895284

>takes Charizard back

Whereas I would Mega Evolve into fucking Dragon Dance, it's funny how many people let you set up etc. - my Deoxys-S lead usually sets up Taunt (if a setup lead), SR and 2 sets of spikes before they finally attack me sometimes...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:32:09 No.15895372 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:32:12 No.15895374 Report

Quoted By: >>15895648

>>15895302
Not the guy who posted it, but it lets Charizard X outspeed Lucario before it Mega Evolves, survive Sludge Bomb from Mega Gengar after Stealth Rock damage, and Attack is just enough to land important OHKOs (Aegislash, Mega Gengar, etc.).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:36:44 No.15895442 Report

Quoted By: >>15895458 >>15895477

>>15894907
If you genned him in the first place just give him dragon dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:37:57 No.15895458 Report

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>>15895442

This, fucking hell I'm running Charizard X and a DD set just rips through teams for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:39:11 No.15895477 Report

Quoted By: >>15895981

>>15895442
I should clarify-- He's my original Charizard from my Fire Red playthough. Traded to a flash cart and then gave him max IVs in PokeGen. I can give him whatever nature he needs (currently Jolly), but Dragon Dance is an egg move, I didn't want to give him something it was impossible for him to have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:48:42 No.15895602 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:51:59 No.15895648 Report

Quoted By: >>15895703 >>15895763

>>15895374
>>15895263
Other than tanking the sludge, doesn't the traditional X-zard do all of that, but better?

I don't really see the point of surviving something you normally wouldn't for surprise, when traditional would have outsped abd OHKO'd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:54:36 No.15895696 Report

Quoted By: >>15895936 >>15895949 >>15896017 >>15896032 >>15896039

>>15894907
Jolly
252 Attack / 4 Def / 252 Speed
Flare Blitz / Outrage / Eartquake or whatever / Dragon Dance

If you are lucky enough to setup two Dragon Dance, it's gg for the other guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:55:10 No.15895703 Report

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>>15895648
The set isn't made FOR doing that. The EVs are just set to help it in cases like that where it normally wouldn't survive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:56:26 No.15895724 Report

Quoted By: >>15895746

>>15895263
That looks like shit man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:57:46 No.15895746 Report

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>>15895724
Here we go again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 16:59:02 No.15895763 Report

Quoted By: >>15895787 >>15895833

>>15895648
The whole point of the set is to spread burns to common things that switch into Charizard X like Tyranitar and Azumarill. The EVs are there long enough keep doing its job and potentially get opportunities to Roost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:00:52 No.15895787 Report

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>>15895763
Why not Dragon Dance your shit and OHKO Tyranitar with Outrage and do some damage to Azumarill with EQ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:04:38 No.15895833 Report

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>>15895763

I usually just kill them OHKO/2HKO if they switch in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:06:35 No.15895864 Report

Quoted By: >>15896039

>>15895263
Using this set right now.

Cripples all physical attackers and has surprisingly nice staying power with Roost. He even got Paralyzed in one match and did his job well.

Very good for people who want to use Charizard but don't use a Spinner/Defogger. Stealth Rock almost isn't a thing with this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:11:44 No.15895936 Report

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>>15895263
Nice, but what about Outrage for Dragon Claw¡
>>15895696
Nice too, you can sweep with this, but if you bad predict, you are fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:13:07 No.15895949 Report

Quoted By: >>15895977 >>15896003

>>15895263
Nice, but what about Outrage for Dragon Claw?
>>15895696
Nice too, you can sweep with this, but if you bad predict, you are fucked. And Adamant would be even better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:14:58 No.15895977 Report

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>>15895949
You can't Roost or Will-O-Wisp if you're locked into Outrage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:15:16 No.15895981 Report

Quoted By: >>15895998

>>15895477
You already messed with it's IVs, just give it the move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:16:16 No.15895998 Report

Quoted By: >>15896020

>>15895981
Nah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:16:34 No.15896003 Report

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>>15895949
Outrage and Dragon Claw are fairly interchangeable. It's really if you think it's worth the risk or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:17:27 No.15896017 Report

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>>15895696

I run this set, but with Fire Punch and Dragon Claw, still rips through their team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:17:35 No.15896020 Report

Quoted By: >>15896059

>>15895998
Just edit it so it says that it was hatched from an egg you mong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:18:31 No.15896032 Report

Quoted By: >>15896091

>>15895696
You can fuck Wish Umbreon in the ass with two Dragon Dance and Outrage. You must kill that shit with 1HKO. Happened to me two hours ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:19:18 No.15896039 Report

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>>15895696
>>15895864
Still using this set. Still working out nicely. It helps that no one predicts WoW or Roost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:20:25 No.15896059 Report

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>>15896020
But muh starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:20:27 No.15896060 Report

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>>15894907
>Jolly

>252 Attack / 4 Def / 252 Speed
>Dragon Dance / Dragon Claw / Fire Punch/ Earthquake

After the damage the rest of my team does, nothing survives when this comes in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:21:36 No.15896091 Report

Quoted By: >>15896186

>>15896032
>Wish Umbreon
Who cares about Wish Umbreon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:23:34 No.15896123 Report

Quoted By: >>15896133 >>15896152 >>15896189 >>15896214

You know the main problem with the Dragon Dance set is that you basically HAVE to have a spinner. Otherwise you aren't scaring anything out OR taking a hit so that you can Dragon Dance.

Are you sure the Dragon Dance set isn't just working out for people because 99% of the people we battle are scrubs or kids?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:24:05 No.15896133 Report

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>>15896123

I have a spinner, so yeah that's why it works out well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:25:08 No.15896152 Report

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>>15896123

They may be scrubs or kids - but in terms of "working out" I'm just going off the amount of damage it deals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:26:56 No.15896186 Report

Quoted By: >>15896220

>>15896091
A fag I fought earlier today.
>Toxic
>Wish
>Protect
>with Leftovers

Damn...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:27:05 No.15896189 Report

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>>15896123
That's why I like this set >>15895263 so much. I don't have to have a spinner because it doesn't care about rocks as much as the DDance set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:28:19 No.15896214 Report

Quoted By: >>15896245

>>15896123
>fighting someone with sneaky pebbles
>having status moves
>using items
lel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:28:33 No.15896220 Report

Quoted By: >>15896236 >>15896255

>>15896186
What is this-- Gen 4? Do you not have a Steel, Poison, or something with a Fighting move on your team?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:29:28 No.15896236 Report

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>>15896220
2meta4me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:30:01 No.15896245 Report

Quoted By: >>15896284

>>15896214
I want the hypefags to leave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:30:26 No.15896255 Report

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>>15896220

>Somebody still tries this shit
>Send out Scizor
>Free Swords Dance, because they either switch out or try to do fuck all
>Free heavy damage, thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:31:29 No.15896284 Report

Quoted By: >>15896368

>>15896245

Hypefags?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:35:08 No.15896368 Report

Quoted By: >>15896378

>>15896284
Fucking trollin-ass teenagers here because the new game is out. Shitting up every fucking thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2013 17:35:38 No.15896378 Report

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>>15896368

Oh right.

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