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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:14:22 No.15926958 View View Reply Original Report

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Any tips for this guy right here? He's super strong but can't take a hit. Should work on defense EVs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:18:31 No.15927010 Report

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Its defenses are so awful that EVs just won't do anything.

Just pump Attack and Speed, and hope for the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:19:41 No.15927020 Report

Quoted By: >>15927061 >>15927098

EV attack and speed then put a focus sash on that bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:21:26 No.15927048 Report

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Just go attack and speed and sucker punch everything into the next dimension

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:22:10 No.15927061 Report

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>>15927020
>what is mega stone

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:23:59 No.15927091 Report

Quoted By: >>15927151 >>15927180

115 Base Speed is pretty fast.

IMO go 252Spe 252Atk, and 4 Def/SpD (to prevent his HP being a multiple of 8)

Swords Dance / Sucker Punch / Play Rough / 1 Coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:24:32 No.15927098 Report

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>>15927020
>focus sash
>mega absol
bait/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:26:58 No.15927130 Report

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Cool, I don't know why I didn't think about speed. Thanks for the tips. I'll give it a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:28:39 No.15927151 Report

Quoted By: >>15927172 >>15927176 >>15929099

>>15927091
Could you explain who Sucker Punch is such a useful move?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:30:21 No.15927172 Report

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>>15927151

Priority STAB

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:30:26 No.15927176 Report

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>>15927151
>Good power
>Stab on top of that
>Priority as long as they use an attacking move
>good coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:30:41 No.15927180 Report

Quoted By: >>15927202 >>15927656

>>15927091
Right now I'm running Swords Dance / Night Slash / Play Rough / Strength (for in-game; looking for replacement move)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:32:21 No.15927202 Report

Quoted By: >>15927262

>>15927180
I'm running Swords Dance / Night Slash / Future Sight / Play Rough and it's worked pretty well. Should I replace Night Slash with Sucker Punch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:33:36 No.15927219 Report

Quoted By: >>15927317 >>15927353

How do you get Play Rough on a Absol?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:33:58 No.15927224 Report

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Use it as a lead and carry Fire Blast. Watch Klefki eat shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:36:54 No.15927262 Report

Quoted By: >>15927279

>>15927202
Get rid of future sight, it's shit.
Sucker Punch for priority STAB, Night Slash for reliable coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:38:05 No.15927279 Report

Quoted By: >>15927307 >>15927357 >>15927396

>>15927262
Cool, thanks. Why the hate for Future Sight?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:39:49 No.15927307 Report

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>>15927279
Absol is so frail that if you give the opponent one free turn to do whatever they want by using Future Sight it's guaranteed to die.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:40:37 No.15927317 Report

Quoted By: >>15927353 >>15927357

>>15927219
Egg move I think. not sure with who

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:42:38 No.15927346 Report

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>>15927307
That's true but then it also insures a bonus hit later in the battle which I've found to be useful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:43:13 No.15927353 Report

Quoted By: >>15927413 >>15927873

>>15927219
>>15927317
Granbull or Mawile

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:43:25 No.15927357 Report

Quoted By: >>15927413 >>15927873

>>15927279
Because absol can't afford to stand there and take a hit. Also psychic is a really shitty attacking type.
>>15927317
Granbul and liepard among others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:46:40 No.15927396 Report

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>>15927279

It can be useful if you've scared your opponent into switching but there are much better options

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:47:47 No.15927413 Report

Quoted By: >>15927445 >>15927458 >>15927513

>>15927353
>>15927357
Thanks that's good to know. Guess I'll get breeding.

So what I'm looking at is
252Spe 252Atk, and 4 Def/SpD
Swords Dance / Sucker Punch / Play Rough / Night Slash

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:50:21 No.15927445 Report

Quoted By: >>15927582 >>15927926

>>15927413
Don't use 2 dark moves on the same set. Base 150 attack is also high enough to not need SD while 115 sp att is too high to ignore. Consider pursuit too since most things you should be using it against will have few direct attacking moves and they'll try to switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:51:04 No.15927458 Report

Quoted By: >>15927513 >>15927582

>>15927413
I would use Fire Blast over Swords Dance or Night Slash to hit Mawile and Klefki but that's just me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:55:26 No.15927513 Report

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>>15927413
>>15927458
Mega-Absol has pretty solid SpAtk, even without EV investment

Fire blast is a good choice for coverage in the 4th slot

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 18:59:38 No.15927582 Report

Quoted By: >>15927648 >>15927721

>>15927445
Right now I'm running a Rash Absol so I wasn't really considering SpAtk to be an option because I'd rather just rely on Atk and have that boosted def.

>>15927458
I don't typically do Wifi battles, I usually battle a group of friends. So I don't run into these very often, but this might be a good idea if I decide to breed for a new nature. Thanks for the input.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 19:03:36 No.15927648 Report

Quoted By: >>15927873

>>15927582
Absol is a glass cannon, you shouldn't be caring about defenses. Go for hasty or naive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 19:03:54 No.15927656 Report

Quoted By: >>15927873

>>15927180
Absol gets Play Rough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 19:07:42 No.15927721 Report

Quoted By: >>15927873

>>15927582
>because I'd rather just rely on Atk and have that boosted def.
Absol's defenses don't change when it mega evolves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 19:15:27 No.15927873 Report

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>>15927656
Yes through breeding.
See >>15927353
>>15927357

>>15927648
>>15927721
Alright, thank you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 19:18:38 No.15927926 Report

Quoted By: >>15928095

>>15927445
>Don't use two dark moves on the same set
While true for most cases, absol's frailty really gives him a need for a priority move. Since sucker punch can fail if the opponent isn't going to attack, it's best to have a powerful STAB when outspeeding. Not to mention the high critical hit ratio of Night Slash and Super Luck combined.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 19:31:32 No.15928095 Report

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>>15927926
>super luck
>mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2013 20:21:52 No.15929099 Report

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>>15927151
A . Priority
B. He's fast so he's going to outspeed other priority
C He has magic bounce so he tells anything other than direct attacks to fuck off so your opponent HAS to attack you

Oh and couple Absol with a good baton passer. That way when you bring it in you wont have to waste time with setup moves and can just go full coverage on a(preferably) +2 speed spatk atk death machine.

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