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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 06:22:06 No.15945249 View View Reply Original Report

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So singles rating battles only allow three Pokemon? What is this horseshit? My Baton Pass team that I spent so long building is fucking useless when split into three-mon teams.

I don't want to run the same old crappy Dragonites, Tyranitars, Talonflames, Aegislashes, and Greninjas everyone else uses, I want to play ranked matches the way I want to play them. Fuck this conformist bull.

Yes, I mad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:07:32 No.15946141 Report

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Forgot to mention Rotom-Ws.

Christ, am I really just supposed to use the three strongest mons I can cobble together that have decent coverage? I can't use any fun teams and get ratings for it?

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:11:41 No.15946198 Report

Quoted By: >>15946324

this is why people use sims.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:20:21 No.15946324 Report

Quoted By: >>15947946

>>15946198
Sims that don't include the things I've worked hard to create. All I can do with this team now is challenge random passersby. And when they accept at a rate of about once per twenty minutes, they either have terrible teams or are loaded with ubers.
Even then I've only lost one passersby battle to date, and that was because of a single crit.

It's just...I was expecting an easier way to have fun, you know? After having worked for it I expected some kind of reward, not to get shut down by limitations.
You should be allowed to choose to partake in 6v6 rating battles. There's no reason why you shouldn't that outweighs every reason why you should.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:21:44 No.15946350 Report

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But people DO play 6v6 Wi-Fi. Not sure how, haven't checked, but it's probably through Wi-Fi Generals, chats, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:23:45 No.15946373 Report

Quoted By: >>15946383

Because gamefreak is retarded and only care about speed of battles rather than strategic depth.
Which is why they do doubles in their tournaments

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:24:28 No.15946383 Report

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>>15946373
No, they do doubles because they can't afford to sit people around doing stall battles endlessly. Especially with children.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:25:55 No.15946416 Report

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>>15945249
Add a shitload of people on /vp/
Always be online and get as many acquaintances as possible.

Then whore yourself for battles with friend/acquaintance option that let's people know you want to be challenged.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:27:10 No.15946440 Report

Quoted By: >>15946474 >>15946510 >>15946513 >>15946514 >>15947625

>>15945249

There's more skill in selecting your 3 Pokemon, OP.
You need to analyze your opponent's team, their potential, their lineup, their general weakness etc... the fact that you have to choose 3/6 makes for a very strategical challenge in itself.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:29:46 No.15946474 Report

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>>15946440
Hardly.

All it does is make hyper offense the only viable strategy.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:29:50 No.15946476 Report

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>>15946416
I don't have room for shitloads of people. My friends list became full back in the days of Kid Icarus Uprising, and it's very hard to find people I can afford to remove. Even moreso when I consider their Friend Safaris.

I can rape people in that game, I just want to be able to rape them in this one too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:30:28 No.15946485 Report

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>>15946474

Well then I guess our experiences vary.
Ah well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:30:47 No.15946488 Report

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>>15946476
Then do the second option. Although now it'll take a little bit longer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:32:23 No.15946510 Report

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>>15946440
>There's more skill in selecting your 3 Pokemon, OP
haha wow, 3v3 singles is easily the shittiest most uncompetitive metagame

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:32:39 No.15946513 Report

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>>15946440

>Run this Set
>Troll everytime except against sap sipper goodra

Vivillion @ Focus Sash
252 sp. atk/252 spe
Compoundeyes

Quiver Dance
Bug Buzz
Sleep Powder
Hurricane

>mfw strategy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:32:42 No.15946514 Report

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>>15946440
I was gonna say something, but then this happened >>15946474

And it's true. Entry hazards are useless, Baton Pass is (mostly) useless, weather users better make damn sure they've got an opening, etc.

The only things viable that I can see are indeed hyper offense and maybe Toxic stall. Neither of which suit the OP's taste, apparently

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:33:02 No.15946519 Report

Quoted By: >>15946553

I just challenge ever passerby with the "let's battle" message. It's not perfect solution, but it works. Kind of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:35:10 No.15946553 Report

Quoted By: >>15946579

>>15946519
But that can take forever, anon. It works, yes, but there's no guarantee that even when somebody does finally accept that they'll be a worthy challenge.

They really should have more options, there's no excuse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:36:35 No.15946571 Report

Quoted By: >>15946613

Speaking of challenging passerbys, how do those work? Are they people in the same town as you? If so, where do all the cool kids hang out that will accept my challenges?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:36:57 No.15946579 Report

Quoted By: >>15946613 >>15948312

>>15946553
Yeah, for every good battle I get, there's 5 that spam double team/minimize

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:38:46 No.15946613 Report

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>>15946571
No, they're just people that happen to be online at the same time as you.

>>15946579
Or legendaries. Can't forget about the legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 07:46:00 No.15946723 Report

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>>15945249
You also forgot to mention Garchomps, Goodras, Blazikens, Gengars, and Mawiles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 08:19:37 No.15947204 Report

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>>15946383
That's exactly what he said though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 08:21:02 No.15947221 Report

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Good. Baton pass is the work of satan

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 08:40:40 No.15947518 Report

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Play double, it's fast paced but it's way more strategic than 3vs3. But yeah you'll have to rebreed your pokemons. Still, I have fun.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 08:47:22 No.15947592 Report

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>>15945249
OP, i feel as if you and I would get along nicely, due to our shared opinions on this subject

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 08:51:12 No.15947625 Report

Quoted By: >>15947646

>>15946440
This is correct, all the people who are saying it isn't are too used to smogon metagames on Showdown. 3v3 is a far superior format when you include the fact you see their full team beforehand. Game Freak know what they're doing, they've done a massive amount of internal testing and 3v3 is the most competitive format. The fact smogfags don't like it doesn't change that.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 08:52:18 No.15947635 Report

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>>15945249
do doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 08:53:31 No.15947646 Report

Quoted By: >>15947730 >>15947752

>>15947625

I do very much like this format. But really I have to agree they should have included some form of 6 on 6. I mean that's the way the game is supposed to work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:00:56 No.15947730 Report

Quoted By: >>15947748 >>15947787 >>15947795

>>15947646
No it isn't. The game is 2v2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:02:41 No.15947748 Report

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>>15947730
i think he ment thats how the game works on n sims and story mode so you would think the in game multi would be the same too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:03:06 No.15947752 Report

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>>15947646
It's called the whole other mode. It's not like you can always find opponents in the battle spot either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:06:02 No.15947787 Report

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>>15947730
And yet double battles are rare in game

Just... Fucking hell, Gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:06:53 No.15947795 Report

Quoted By: >>15947962

>>15947730

Why do you say that? Does Gamefreaks say that? Explain this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:09:39 No.15947819 Report

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Baton Pass fucking sucks no matter where you use it OP, so you might as well play it in 3vs3

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:17:05 No.15947891 Report

Quoted By: >>15947921

So are doubles 6v6 or 4v4?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:19:27 No.15947921 Report

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>>15947891
In battle spot? 4v4

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:20:59 No.15947946 Report

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>>15946324
>Sims that don't include the things I've worked hard to create
??? They do.

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robots 3926-5484-0049 (Spearow,Unfezant,Hawlucha) Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:22:18 No.15947962 Report

Quoted By: >>15947976

>>15947795
Aren't the VGC's mostly doubles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:24:20 No.15947976 Report

Quoted By: >>15947995

Can't you just do free battle or whatever it is? I guess you'll run across people using ubers occasionally, but at least you'll be doing 6v6.

>>15947962
Pretty sure it is all doubles.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:25:05 No.15947981 Report

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>>15945249
>complaining about the meta

get gud fagut

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:26:07 No.15947995 Report

Quoted By: >>15948021 >>15948032

>>15947976
Free battle is 3v3 too, unfortunately. It's okay, but since there are no rules you come across stuff like Power Herb Xerneas from time to time.(which is incredibly broken)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:29:06 No.15948021 Report

Quoted By: >>15948118

>>15947995
You sure? I could have sworn I did a 6v6 in battle spot yesterday or the day before. I could be misremembering, I guess.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:29:09 No.15948023 Report

Quoted By: >>15948103 >>15949882

>>15945249
>Baton Pass team
Baton pass is literally the worst strategy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:30:04 No.15948032 Report

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>>15947995
It will be even worse when Pokébank comes out and everyone will be bringing over their perfect Arceus and other legendaries. It doesn't have any rating system though so if you encounter those Pokémon you can just forfeit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:32:16 No.15948060 Report

Quoted By: >>15948129 >>15948176

Really, the only thing GF has to do is give us the option to 6v6 in Free or Rated battles. I'm sure it would be just as popular as 3v3.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:35:44 No.15948103 Report

Quoted By: >>15948139 >>15948147 >>15949882

>>15948023
Nah m8. It's good if you are experienced. But OP does seem like a pleb, soooooooo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:37:06 No.15948118 Report

Quoted By: >>15948153

>>15948021
Free battle -> 3vs3 battles on Battle Spot with no restrictions regarding Pokemon

Youre thinking of random passerby battles, where you can pick Normal Battle ruleset, which allows you to use 6 Pokemon and bumps/lowers their level to 50

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:38:25 No.15948129 Report

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>>15948060
Japs are trash when it comes to balance and features. I mean seriously just give a warning or lock kids out of it. Doesn't even have to be rated just match up people wanting to 6v6 fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:39:17 No.15948139 Report

Quoted By: >>15948276 >>15949882

>>15948103
I have yet to see a baton pass team that actually works

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:39:54 No.15948147 Report

Quoted By: >>15948276 >>15949882

>>15948103
Except nobody with an actual experience in Pokemon uses teams centred around Baton Pass

It is just a really shitty strategy, always was, always will be

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:40:40 No.15948153 Report

Quoted By: >>15948188

>>15948118
I know how the passerby ones work. It is just that I started doing the battle spot thing yesterday, and did exactly one free battle. I remember it being 6v6, but then when I went to rated it was 3v3.

Sounds like I'm just misremembering though. I'll try it in the morning and I'm sure I will find that I was wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:43:02 No.15948176 Report

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>>15948060
It wont happen, because GF has a massive hard on for pushing their "official" formats (which is 3 for singles, 4 for doubles and rotations, 6 for triples).

In their eyes 6vs6 is probably as casual as spamming 6 Mewtwos on your team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:44:21 No.15948188 Report

Quoted By: >>15948360

>>15948153
You're definitely misremembering things. Both Free and Rated use the same format.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:46:13 No.15948221 Report

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>>15945249
>Baton Pass team

lmfao these anti-OU apologists get worse as time goes on

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:48:49 No.15948249 Report

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I baton pass team isn't all that viable in 6v6 anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:51:35 No.15948276 Report

Quoted By: >>15948318 >>15948655 >>15949882

>>15948139
>>15948147
Then y'all must have battles some really shitty players.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:55:24 No.15948312 Report

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>>15946579
Evasion has been nerfed this gen. It's more of an annoyance than a broken mechanic now. There are way too many ways to deal with it. Keep a Pokemon with roar or something, it hits 100% now, so you can just boost for free on their double team spam and roar away or something. Or, considering you'll most likely have roar on a utility Pokemon, set up dem hazards while they try to cheese.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:55:55 No.15948318 Report

Quoted By: >>15948335 >>15949882

>>15948276
The only ones here that face shitty players are the ones that run Baton Pass teams.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:57:42 No.15948335 Report

Quoted By: >>15949882

>>15948318
ok

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Tyler 1332-7751-6225 luxio, electrode, electabuzz Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:59:41 No.15948356 Report

Quoted By: >>15948780

I honestly can't see why they don't have a 6v6 rating battle. They could still keep the 3v3 rating system too it. I am mad that they gamefreak doesn't consider 6v6 competitively viable anymore with the tourney that they host, I mean i think the first way of battling should be the main right?

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 09:59:54 No.15948360 Report

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>>15948188
I decided, "Fuck it" and did a quick match to see. I was certainly wrong.
Oh well. Pretty lame that there isn't a way other than challenging random people.

>JP kid disconnected when my M-Mawile kills his Charizard X and all he has left is a Xerneas with 1/8 HP.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 10:28:05 No.15948655 Report

Quoted By: >>15948722 >>15949882

>>15948276
Well yeah baton pass teams are retard magnets

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 10:29:39 No.15948670 Report

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>>15945249
Wait for Pokebank

Use Prankster Klefki, Funbro Slowbro, and another incredibly annoying staller.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 10:34:24 No.15948722 Report

Quoted By: >>15948787 >>15949882

>>15948655
Then you must be the one who came up with the strategy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 10:39:06 No.15948780 Report

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>>15948356
>gamefreak doesn't consider 6v6 competitively viable anymore
It was never an official format for as far as I can remember.

I remember watching one of the early JAA tournaments in 2000 or 2001 on TV as a kid (still blows my mind that TV broadcasted Pokemon tournaments were a thing once), and guess what? They played in bring 6, pick 3 format just like we do today. (they battled on Stadium, so yes it was possible)

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 10:39:29 No.15948787 Report

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>>15948722
That's a poor comeback anon you can do better

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 10:44:05 No.15948833 Report

Quoted By: >>15948869 >>15948938 >>15949882

>>15948787
Oh I'm sorry. I should have said " Your mum is a retard magnet.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 10:45:15 No.15948849 Report

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>>15948787

but i can't get my cum back

ur momma swallowed

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 10:46:59 No.15948869 Report

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>>15948833
>>15948849

milfmind

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 10:54:26 No.15948938 Report

Quoted By: >>15948958 >>15949882

>>15948849
>>15948833
It's really like I'm in highschool, nothing more could be expected of /vp/

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 10:57:26 No.15948958 Report

Quoted By: >>15949882

>>15948938
>implying you're not still in High School

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 11:28:46 No.15949309 Report

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Baton Pass is only really viable when you keep it small, anyhow. Just have a BPer lead and 1-2 pokes who would appreciate the pass, but can still function on their own if needed. Makin a whole chain is just asking for trouble

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 12:23:45 No.15949882 Report

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>>15945249
>>15948023
>>15948103
>>15948139
>>15948147
>>15948276
>>15948318
>>15948335
>>15948655
>>15948722
>>15948787
>>15948833
>>15948849
>>15948869
>>15948938
>>15948958
Thanks for the laugh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 16:57:44 No.15953589 Report

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Using only 3/6 makes it easier for weather, terrain, rooms, etc... to effect the match. And since 1/3rd of each team will be Mega, which mega you pick is super important.

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