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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 17:25:51 No.15954059 View View Reply Original Report

It's been six fucking Generations, Gamefreak.

Why the fuck do you insist in not giving Kingler Waterfall? It's the only thing it needs to properly abuse it's HA.

I'm seriously buttdevastated over this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 19:37:51 No.15956457 Report

Quoted By: >>15956551 >>15956948 >>15957251

Crabs can't climb up waterfalls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 19:40:01 No.15956502 Report

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They just need to make sheerforce work for high crit ratio moves instead, then crabhammer will be boosted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 19:42:56 No.15956551 Report

Quoted By: >>15956577

>>15956457
This. Crabs are not good at climbing waterfalls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 19:44:32 No.15956577 Report

Quoted By: >>15956830

>>15956551
And catfish can dance like dragons?

And dark assassin ninja frogs cannot plot nasty things?

What a fascinating universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 19:53:39 No.15956772 Report

Quoted By: >>15956804

Can't he learn Crab Hammer or something? I thought that was a fairly powerful physical water attack, wasn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 19:55:07 No.15956804 Report

Quoted By: >>15956947

>>15956772
not as powerful as sheer force waterfall, though.

And with a 90% miss rate

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 19:56:49 No.15956830 Report

Quoted By: >>15957176 >>15957208

>>15956577
It's a bit different because Waterfall is an HM

on the other hand Helioptile can surf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 20:00:27 No.15956902 Report

Quoted By: >>15956934 >>15960796

He can't even take advantage of sheer force. The only useful move it helps is rock slide.

I'd rather just go with hypercutter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 20:02:08 No.15956934 Report

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>>15956902
because I'd rather have the 30% flinch anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 20:02:39 No.15956947 Report

Quoted By: >>15956977

>>15956804
Crabhammer has a secondary effect though, a higher crit rate. I've never bothered using Sheer Force, do crit chance moves not count towards Sheer Force?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 20:02:44 No.15956948 Report

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>>15956457
Can confirm
Source: I'm a marine biologist

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 20:04:07 No.15956977 Report

Quoted By: >>15957014

>>15956947
High crit doesn't count as a secondary effect, unfortunately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 20:06:06 No.15957014 Report

Quoted By: >>15957058

>>15956977
Well that's dumb as shit. Still though, with a 33% boost sheer force waterfall's not all that much better than crabhammer, only about 6 base power. Is there like, a list somewhere of all the moves that take advantage of sheer force?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 20:07:59 No.15957058 Report

Quoted By: >>15957112

>>15957014
but waterfall has a 100% hit rate, unlike crabhammer's 90%.

and yes there is but it's still from BW
http://www.serebii.net/abilitydex/sheerforce.shtml

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 20:10:06 No.15957112 Report

Quoted By: >>15957174

>>15957058
With that power, it's nothing a wide lens wouldn't fix at the end of the day. Also thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 20:12:51 No.15957174 Report

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>>15957112
wide lens if you want the certainty, or life orb + sheer force since it eliminates the recoil damage

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 20:12:57 No.15957176 Report

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>>15956830
>Helioptile can surf
I find this perfectly logic.

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Tyler 1332-7751-6225 luxio, electrode, electabuzz Fri 15 Nov 2013 20:13:22 No.15957184 Report

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>>15954059
I know that feel man. Kingler is a true bro. fuck gamefreak for not buffing best crab

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 20:13:47 No.15957193 Report

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Crabhammer base power had been raise to 100 this gen.
It's almost as good as Sheer Force waterfall (104 damage)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 20:14:26 No.15957208 Report

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>>15956830
What you mean to ask is

Slurpuff can Surf.

It's made of sugar. IT DISSOLVES IN WATER MAN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 20:16:37 No.15957251 Report

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>>15956457
Neither can alligators.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2013 22:56:08 No.15960796 Report

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>>15956902
Also Brick Break.

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