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>>15974315
I run her like I used to run her
Magic Guard
Poison Orb
Thunderbolt
Moon Blast
Flamethrower
Ice Beam

252 HP 252 Sp,Atk

she's not the best for the job, exploud does her job better with boom burst, but clefable has magic guard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 09:02:23 No.15974512 Report

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>>15974476
>implying gimmicks are bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 09:03:42 No.15974532 Report

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>>15974481
if she gets magic guard she can just use a toxic orb and not have to worry about her status, which lets you replace recycle for a good slotted move

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 09:04:52 No.15974546 Report

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>>15974532
>Wanting to run out of Metronomes
Its like you hate fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 09:08:13 No.15974593 Report

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If you play against people who don't run Taunt leads, this is fun to open with:

Clefable @ Leftovers
Calm - 252 HP - 252 DEF | Magic Guard
~Thunder Wave
~Encore
~Moonblast
~Moonlight/Shadow Ball

Alternatively, a Calm Mind set with Moonblast/Shadow Ball (or Boltbeam) and Life Orb

>>15974502 don't do this, you need bulk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 09:13:48 No.15974650 Report

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Could an Unaware/Swagger/Psych-Up set be viable on her? Mainly as a counter to setup sweepers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 09:17:55 No.15974699 Report

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>>15974650

If you want to beat setup sweepers, just run Unaware. Swagger/Psych Up is stupid and extremely gimmicky and moveslot inefficient.

Calm Mind/Cosmic Power and pretend you're a special Quagsire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 09:27:48 No.15974842 Report

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in gen 5 i used to run

252 HP / 152 Def / 100 SpD
Cosmic Power
Charge Beam
Stored Power
Wish

it's gimmicky and gets shut down by krookodile but it's pretty fun

Tom 5155-3310-1198 (Klefki, Forrestress, Mawile)

Tom 5155-3310-1198 (Klefki, Forrestress, Mawile) Sat 16 Nov 2013 11:13:58 No.15975943 Report

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>>15974315
I dont give a fuck about smogon so heres mine
-minimize
-bellydrum
-storedpower
-Earthquake
leftovers for my item and evs are max health and split spa and atk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 11:19:11 No.15976001 Report

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Clefable @ Leftovers
Calm, 252 HP, 236 Def, 20 SpDef
Unaware
-Moonlight
-Aromatherapy
-Cosmic Power
-Stored Power

Unaware and a bunch of Cosmic Powers make it pretty invincible barring crits. Can't hit dark types though. Calm Mind and Moonblast also work.

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