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Fucking Battle Maison, the AI makes it crystal clear that it builds teams solely to counter mine.>Earlier I used to leave Talonflame as my last Pokemon >Yesterday I decided to lead with it >Two first trainers lead with Rhyperior >"Oh boy here we go..." >Dragonite with Rock Slide >Tauros with Rock Slide >Braviary with Rock Slide >Nidoking with Rock Slide >Magmortar with Rock Slide >Seismitoad with Rock Slide >Tyranitar with Rock Slide >Carracosta with Rock Slide >Archeops with Rock Slide >Cradily with Rock Slide >Kangaskhan with Rock Slide >Heracross with Rock Slide >Snorlax with Rock Slide >Shiftry with Rock Slide >Salamence with Rock Slide >Toxicroak with Rock Slide >Rock Slide with Rock Slide >Rock Slide user to counter Talonflame >Special sponge to counter Rotom-W >Some Pokemon with a Fighting type move to counter Mega Tyranitar
Anonymous
Apparently the easiest way to beat them if you want to not care about trying is Truant Durant with Entrainment, switch to something with protect.
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>>15976208 >inb4 switch Talonflame out when you predict Rock Slide Yes, I did this every time the opponent used some obvious Rock Slide user and the outcome was always the same.
>Talonflame, come back >Go! Rotom-W >Opponent used Rock Slide >Critical hit + flinch Anonymous
>>15976237 But I've heard this doesn't work anymore. The AI starts leading with Pokemon that have Protect and completely counters the Entrainment strategy.
Anonymous
They have a hard time countering Protean greninja, Khan+Spookysword combo, and Mblaziken as a lead, since it 2kos even when its attacks are resisted.
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>>15976282 >They have a hard time countering Protean greninja, Khan+Spookysword combo Kangaskhan is the only hyped Maison Pokemon that I haven't tried yet and it's my final hope. M-Kanga is supposed to be "easy mode for the first 100 matches" but I've lost most of my faith since Rotom-W didn't work at all even though it was supposed to be really good. What EV spread should Kanga have? Obviously 252 Attack, but is better to go with bulk (252 HP) or Speed (252 Speed)?
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Self bump, help me /vp/
Anonymous
>>15976345 I went jolly with 252 speed on mine, outspeeds most non scarfed stuff in the battlemaison.
Use a eagislash aswell, because khans only counter to ghost types is suckerpunch/crunch, they often send out levitate ghosts, which are easy kills for aegislash.
Ryan 2294-4723-9526 (Dwebble, Magcargo, Barbaracle)
Ryan 2294-4723-9526 (Dwebble, Magcargo, Barbaracle) Sat 16 Nov 2013 12:01:41 No. 15976462 Report >>15976208 I got to 48 using Umbreon as a lead, plus Focus Sash Gengar and Mega Mawile. Fucked up once and paid dearly for it. Was going to use Protect to see if the
fucking Terrakion would use a fighting attack against my Umbreon so I could switch to Gengar. Misclicked, got OHKO'd, then Gengar and M-Mawile fell to Zapdos after a difficult battle with Terrakion. At least I got an Ability Capsule out of it.
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>>15976275 You lead with a pokemon with trick, after you trick you send in your focus sash Durant
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>>15976386 So something like this:
Kanga @ Megastone
Jolly nature
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
-Fake Out
-Power Up Punch
-Sucker Punch
-Earthquake
Aegislash obviously counters Fighting types but I've heard the biggest problem for Kanga is defensive Ghost types, especially that one Dusknoir who has Will-O-Wisp and doesn't use any attacking moves. I should probably carry something that doesn't mind burn and has reasonable bulk so I guess I could go with Mega Kangaskhan, Aegislash and Rotom-W. Hopefully it works.
Also, is the any way to get a Kangaskhan with Body Slam? It's a solid STAB move and since it hits twice it would be perfect for Parahax and crippling opponents.
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Oh god this reminds me of my battle subway experience.>Team of Volcarona, latias, and Ferrothorn >Lead with Volcarona. They send out Reuniclus >You'realreadydead.jpg >Set up a quiver dance. Reuniclus used rock slide! You held on to your sash! >WHO THE FUCK USES PHYSICAL REUNICLUS >Send out my Latias set-up a sub and 6 calm minds because ai is retarded. >win
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>lead Tflame >Their lead obviously going with rock slide? Fuck that shit, switch in Mawile for intimidate + nve damage >kill whatever the fuck with M-Mawile,set up a SD if you can >Do whatever the hell you want with 3rd party member
Anonymous
>>15976462 >Terrakion >Zapdos The AI actually uses legendaries even before match 50? That's bullcrap. What set did you run with your Umbreon? Something annoying like maximum bulk and Confuse Ray spam? Because I once lost to an Umbreon like that. It was the opponent's last Pokemon and it slowly and painfully defeated all my three Pokemon by itself.
Anonymous
>>15976509 The AI seems to chose your move after looking at what you plan to do. Its still limited by switching but I have heard stories about the AI trying to use EQ on levitate pokemons as they switch out only to hit the switch in super effective.
Ryan 2294-4723-9526 (Dwebble, Magcargo, Barbaracle)
Ryan 2294-4723-9526 (Dwebble, Magcargo, Barbaracle) Sat 16 Nov 2013 12:11:55 No. 15976569 Report >>15976536 Thqt just may have been mine. Mine is shiny. I run Toxic/Confuse Ray/Protect/Moonlight. Leftovers seemd to be best, although Rocky Helmet can be good too. Before that Veteran, I think it was battle 42, another Veteran came at me with Regice, Raikou, and Landorus.
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>>15976536 The legendarys start coming at 41+
Im glad that anon posted,I had totally forgot Zapdos existed and I have jack shit for a reasonable counter to it on my team
Anonymous
>>15976569 >I run Toxic/Confuse Ray/Protect/Moonlight I fucking hate you.
Good for you if it works. I heard that the match 50 is against Tornadus, Thundurus and Landorus but I didn't think the other trainers would use legendaries.
>>15976537 Yeah, I've seen some ridiculous stories here about the AI predicting what you're going to do. Usually it's something like:
>Lead with something that's weak to Earthquake >Opponent sends out some obvious Earthquake user >Switch into Talonflame >Opponent uses Surf Ryan 2294-4723-9526 (Dwebble, Magcargo, Barbaracle)
Ryan 2294-4723-9526 (Dwebble, Magcargo, Barbaracle) Sat 16 Nov 2013 12:20:47 No. 15976660 Report >>15976627 The Landorus is scarfed. Lead with Focus Sash Greninja to 2HKO Tornadus. When she sends out Landorus, use protect so it starts a Focus Blast rampage against Greninja, then switch to Aegislash. Swords Dance a couple times and you've won.
Now, if only I could get there.....
Ryan 2294-4723-9526 (Dwebble, Magcargo, Barbaracle)
Ryan 2294-4723-9526 (Dwebble, Magcargo, Barbaracle) Sat 16 Nov 2013 12:21:48 No. 15976672 Report Quoted By:
>>15976660 Use Ice Beam to 2HKO Tornadus. Forgot to include that.
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The best way to counter the maison's bullshit is to mix your team up every couple of rounds
Anonymous
>>15976660 >The Landorus is scarfed. That is cheap as fuck. Game Freak should really make a Battle Facility with ladder ranking since there's no way you can be prepared for a Scarf Landorus the first time you encounter it.
Anonymous
What team used the smogon guy who got over 300 wins?
Anonymous
>>15976208 Faggot OP actually losing to NPCs.
>My rock sides. Anonymous
Anonymous
>>15977057 No, i had to put boxing gloves on my feet and play with my toes to make it a little challenging. Don't project your weak shit on me please.
Also rocks.
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>>15976698 >That is cheap as fuck. Not like you or I or other human trainers don't use Scarf/Band, right?
God damn it, you people complain about anything.
Teams/Items too good? TOO HARD! Complaining.
Teams/Items too weak? WHERE IS MY CHALLENGE? Complaining.
faggots
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>>15976208 How does this make you feel OP?
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>>15976711 I guess the Prankster Taunt/Entrainment Durant/DD Gyarados?
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>>15976208 Try Scarf Impostor Ditto, maybe? I doubt they could make a solid counter to your team since Ditto can basically be anything.
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Just got to 100 victories in Super Singles:
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Git gud, OP.
Anonymous
>lead with Specs Latias and Acro Talonflame >Water and Ice types, Water and Ice types everywhere
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>>15977115 You still lost. Weak.
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>>15976208 >complaining about pokemon with Rock attacks Rock is one of the best offensive types. Great coverage move on any pokemon capable of using it, doubly so if it gets STAB.
Yeah, on most of the pokemon you listed I'd put Rock Slide. On some, like Heracross, Stone Miss. Funny that I don't see teams 'constructed solely to counter mine'. You're just biased because you use Fire/Flying. Gee, wonder why Charizard and Bug/Flying pokes were laughing stock till Gen VI. Because of fucking sneaky pebbles and abundance of Rock type attackers everywhere.
GIT GUD FAGIT
Anonymous
Singles is shit, to be honest.
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>>15980003 Better get something to counter then. The whole idea is you get 3 pokemon that can cover each other.
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>>15976208 Protean Greninja is great if you switch type with each attack, the game has a hard time countering then, but otherwise Im as stuck as you are.
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>>15976282 I did protean lead with truant ant and mold breaker haxorus as backup. Won 85 matches. Then came forretress. It ate up two scalds and managed to set up toxic spikes and exploded, thus robbing me of my sweeper. Durant came in, landed entrainment on Mon 2, switched in haxorus. Got afflicted by poison so now I was on a timer to setup and sweep the last two. Knocked one out, down to third health and only 3 DDs used. Then came in ferrothorn. It proceeded to ingrain and stall out hax who only had dragon claw and rock slide. Durant was incapable so I was forced to forfeit.
The most humiliating defeat.
Anonymous
I got raped by a cresselia with double team, toxic, protect, and leftovers.
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>>15980371 oh and moonlight
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>>15976509 what are you running on noivern? I used
flamethrower
Draco Meteor
BoomBlast
Flame thrower
But Boomblast doesnt do shit for damage 90% of the time
I tried battle mansion with a mega banette Destiny bond confuse ray WoW and shadow sneak
by battle 10 of Banette taking 2 pokemon down each battle they started using dark type moves and OHKO'ing it, damn prankster takes effect the second turn
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It really does. And it likes to be sneaky about it most of the time. >I think I'll just give this Amaura thunderbolt and substitute. > this lanturn has rest and a chesto berry and stockpile. Good luck.
Anonymous
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>mega kanga with sucker punch
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Protean greninja and khangaskhan work pretty great.
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Rotation battles are where its at. At round 145 at the moment.
Anonymous
>>15980113 Except rotation is kinda broken because the protect counter for each pokemon is seperate.
Anonymous
>>15981332 Toxic x3
Protect x forever
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>>15981414 It's a good thing spikes and other hazards don't trigger on rotate.
