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Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs Sat 16 Nov 2013 16:46:15 No.15981046 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15981137 >>15981237 >>15981258 >>15981266 >>15981399 >>15982086 >>15982664

How could I make this team viable?

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs

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Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs Sat 16 Nov 2013 16:47:15 No.15981066 Report

Quoted By: >>15981970

So far, I have these movesets planned out:

Crobat (M) @ Black Sludge
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 58 Atk/200 SpD/252 SPD
-Defog
-Brave Bird
-Taunt
-Roost

Aggron (M) @ Aggronite
Ability: Filter
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 56 HP/200 ATK/252 SPEED
- Autotomize
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Power-Up Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 16:50:36 No.15981137 Report

Quoted By: >>15981208

>>15981046
release them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 16:54:04 No.15981201 Report

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get rid of aurorus

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs Sat 16 Nov 2013 16:54:20 No.15981208 Report

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>>15981137
Shit, why didn't I think of this before.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 16:55:38 No.15981237 Report

Quoted By: >>15982018

>>15981046
>Aurorus

There's your problem faggot. Obviously you like bulky attacker since you have Clawitzer, Trevenant and Aggron but Aurorus can't be considered as one due to its horrible typing. It's just dead weight, release it and never look back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 16:56:35 No.15981258 Report

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>>15981046
By ditching the Amalgasaur.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 16:56:53 No.15981266 Report

Quoted By: >>15981342

>>15981046
Aurorus is so terrible that it cannot function even in NU. It is just that bad.

And this is coming from a person who likes Aurorus.

Now, if Inverted Battles were able to be done on the competitive scene, then Aurorus would be terrifying. A massive number of resistances, only weak to Ice, and good defensive stats to back that all up... horrifying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:00:35 No.15981342 Report

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>>15981266
It's weak to normal, and normal is the best offensive type in inverted battles, it's not hot shit there either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:03:29 No.15981399 Report

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>>15981046
>picking Amaura
I also made the wrong choice, OP. I still remember the fighting gym with that piece of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:24:48 No.15981856 Report

Quoted By: >>15981970

Get rid of everything except for Clawitzer, Aggron, and Trevenant. Talonflame w/choice band is a better offensive pivot/vengkill also grab a Galvantula to set stickyweb it can also rid you of bounce-leads, Malamar, and Serperior. To top it off find a bulky physical water, like Barbaracle to counter other Talonflames.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:30:22 No.15981970 Report

Quoted By: >>15982046 >>15982078

>>15981856
>>15981066
Upon testing the Aggron build it didn't even stand against a fucking Gengar. Run
Aggron(M) @Aggronite
Ability: Filter
Nature: Careful
EV's: 252HP/4 ATK/252 SpD
-Aqua Tail
-Iron Head
-Earthquake
-Power-up-Punch/Superpower

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:33:15 No.15982018 Report

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>>15981237
My outlook on life has been changed forever. I traded my Aurorus off for a Tyrunt, and not once did I regret doing so.

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:34:48 No.15982046 Report

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>>15981970
Autotomize gets it to insane speed. You should've tried setting up an Autotomize straight away, and then proceeded with Power-Up Punch/Whatever else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:34:58 No.15982049 Report

Quoted By: >>15982337 >>15982417 >>15982511

Why are people saying Aurorus is bad?

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:36:56 No.15982078 Report

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>>15981970
But M-Gengar is a special attacker, and maybe that's why it didn't even stand a chance. He had no special defensive investment whatsoever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:37:22 No.15982086 Report

Quoted By: >>15982270

>>15981046
teach trick room to trevenant, ditch aurorus for another trick room user, save crobat for cleaning up after the others

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:46:12 No.15982270 Report

Quoted By: >>15982388

>>15982086
Just thought about that. Thanks man, I realized most of my team is pretty slow. That also means I no longer have to worry about Autotomizing Aggron. Thanks dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:48:59 No.15982337 Report

Quoted By: >>15982401

>>15982049
because it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:51:42 No.15982388 Report

Quoted By: >>15982598

>>15982270
you're welcome. I'm currently looking into trick room myself, as it allows me to use many pokèmon I like. it's not an easy strategy to pull off, but man it's satisfactory

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:52:13 No.15982401 Report

Quoted By: >>15982469 >>15982478 >>15982577 >>15982751 >>15982873

>>15982337
Yeah, but why? Is it the multiple weaknesses? Is that it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:52:44 No.15982417 Report

Quoted By:

>>15982049
shit typing, since fighting is very common in online battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:55:22 No.15982469 Report

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>>15982401
It's a pokemon with defensive stats, but one of the _worst_ typings for defense. Weak to ground, rock, fighting... almost every common attacking type will wreck its shit in. And it's not fast enough to outspeed threats, nor is it powerful enough to take them out before they take it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:55:52 No.15982478 Report

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>>15982401

It's a "bulky" pokemon with weaknesses across the board, not enough Sp.Atk. to run stuff over, and not enough bulk to make up for its hideous defensive covering.

I'm not the guy you've been arguing with, I like Aurorus's design, but metagame wise it would take effort to find a 'mon that's worse.

If they made a Mega for Aurorus, and lost the Rock typing, that would be nice.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 17:56:59 No.15982511 Report

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>>15982049
Because it has horrible typing with 2 quad weaknesses, which are common priority/coverage moves, as well as a relatively redundant ability. Sad considering it gets such a unique move pool and looks majestic as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:00:02 No.15982577 Report

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>>15982401
Ice/Rock is literally the worst defensive type combination, in terms of the relative offensive presence of its weaknesses and resistances. A Pokemon cursed with that awful pairing would need to be a speedy attacker (or Tyranitar, Sand Stream and all) to not suck chicken dick. Aurorus is a slow, bulky Pokemon, and even without the Ice/Rock typing it's still a pretty bad one. Combine that with an underwhelming movepool and a mostly useless ability in Refrigerate, and you have a POS that, even with it's Hidden Ability Snow Warning, makes fucking Abomasnow look like a Kyogre-level Weather inducer.

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:01:19 No.15982598 Report

Quoted By: >>15982686

>>15982388
Would you say this is an okay moveset. Yes, this is probably quite common since he possesses a Natural Cure/Rest combination, but still, it's worth a shot:

Trevenant (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/120 ATK/80 SpD/58 SPD
-Will-O-Wisp
-Rest
-Horn Leech
-Shadow Claw

Charlie 4441-9149-8405 (Shelgon, Fraxure, Druddigon)

Charlie 4441-9149-8405 (Shelgon, Fraxure, Druddigon) Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:04:38 No.15982664 Report

Quoted By:

>>15981046
give clawitzer assault vest
buld him modest with HP and S.atk. EV's

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:05:46 No.15982686 Report

Quoted By: >>15982840 >>15982847

>>15982598
Profit from Harvest abuse, mang.
The sets I've been seeing run something like:
Trevenant@Sitrus Berry
Harvest
Dunno what natures/EVs you'd run, probably just use what you had
-Will-O-Wisp
-Leech Seed
-Horn Leech/Substitute/Phantom Force
-Horn Leech/Substitute/Phantom Force

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:08:29 No.15982751 Report

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>>15982401

Pretty much, absolutely no set will work. Defensive is bad for obvious reasons, it can't even run Rock Polish though, not just because it's hard to set up but anything with Mach/Bullet Punch will immediately stop it, or a decent amount of pokemon with a scarf and a fighting type move.

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:13:25 No.15982840 Report

Quoted By:

>>15982686
Yeah, and I just realize I forgot to include Trick Room.
Trevenant (M) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Harvest
Nature: Careful
EVs: ??? (Probably HP/ATK/SpD)
-Will-O-Wisp
-Horn Leech
-Phantom Force
-Trick Room

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:13:46 No.15982847 Report

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>>15982686
this. harvest, sitrus berry, and I think it can learn trick room (that was my previous point). you could run it over rest.

if you run trick room don't use phantom force: you don't have much time to spare

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:15:08 No.15982873 Report

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>>15982401
If it had good Physical attack and Ice Shard/Quick Attack/Extreme Speed, Aurorus would be usable.

It does not.

It's shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:16:50 No.15982918 Report

Quoted By: >>15983388

I didn't really want to start a new thread with this, but I don't want to completely jack OPs thread.
I want to make a good stalling team, I don't how any requirements for pokemon to use and I'm open to all ideas, any help or a general I get be pointed at?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:21:26 No.15983015 Report

Quoted By: >>15983286 >>15984278

>need to get shit like the Choice items, Life Orb and Assault Vest
>don't want to go through all the tedious battles at the Maison

fuck sake

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:33:01 No.15983286 Report

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>>15983015
Do the Battle Institute in Lumiose. Granted, you need a good team, but once you manage to get to the point where you sweep through the trainers, you can gets as high as 50BP, I believe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:37:26 No.15983388 Report

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>>15982918
impish gliscor @ toxic orb max hp and def EVs
roost/protect
substitute
toxic
earthquake

i also run a SpA dragonite with Twave, multiscale and roost, mega banette while not a staller is a great status inducer, and you could run a klefki too for spikes

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs

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Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:45:56 No.15983577 Report

Quoted By: >>15985786

Does the following set seem okay?
Malamar (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Contrary
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 ATK/220 HP/32 SpD
-Superpower
-Night Slash
-Psycho Cut
-Trick Room

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 19:15:19 No.15984278 Report

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>>15983015
this is probably the easiest game to get bp in, it doesn't take long to get all that stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 19:17:29 No.15984334 Report

Quoted By: >>15984369 >>15986391

Is a 3v3 team of Beartic, Pangoro and Ursaring viable?

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs Sat 16 Nov 2013 19:18:36 No.15984369 Report

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>>15984334
That's fine. Scrafty > Pangoro though, but Beartic and Ursaring are fine, unless you're going for a bear theme. In that case, yeah, pretty good coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 20:12:00 No.15985786 Report

Quoted By: >>15986125

>>15983577
Why don't you use brave if you're using trick room

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs

Suyash 1719-3642-0792 (Growlithe, Charmeleon, Braixen) !VzUktWYlOs Sat 16 Nov 2013 20:23:30 No.15986125 Report

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>>15985786
Eh, good point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 20:32:24 No.15986391 Report

Quoted By:

>>15984334
they're all weak to fighting

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