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Zombie 1478-3591-2335 Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:18:53 No.15982959 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>15983519 >>15983931

Hidden power ice, or fire, on Magnezone?

Using Magnet Pull.

Zombie 1478-3591-2335

Zombie 1478-3591-2335 Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:38:17 No.15983410 Report

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I only ask because I imagine stab thunderbolt does the same amount as super effective HP fire would

thinking of going with ice for coverage against dragons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:40:11 No.15983446 Report

Quoted By: >>15983472 >>15983504

Ice for Mold Breaker Excadrill

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:41:09 No.15983468 Report

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I realized Magnezon has a magnet stuck in it's rear

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:41:16 No.15983472 Report

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>>15983446
I'm a retard, I meant to say Fire, not Ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:42:03 No.15983487 Report

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I went with Fire to trap Scizor and Ferrothorn and hit 'em for x4 damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:42:56 No.15983504 Report

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>>15983446
unless you're using a scarf excadrill will kill you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:43:38 No.15983519 Report

Quoted By: >>15983537 >>15983871

>>15982959
HP Fire is the best. Good luck breeding it in, though. Magnemite is pain to breed. I hope for you you only play on Showdown.

Zombie 1478-3591-2335

Zombie 1478-3591-2335 Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:44:23 No.15983537 Report

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>>15983519
i guess i got lucky, i got a few with magnet pull.

SadCat

SadCat Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:47:39 No.15983620 Report

Quoted By: >>15983871

Is Hidden Power still worth it? 70 BP always seemed somewhat soft to me and now it's been nerfed. Still haven't played 6th gen meta so I'm asking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 18:58:07 No.15983871 Report

Quoted By: >>15984028 >>15984139

>>15983620
It's still good for hitting those 4x weaknesses, but now it's not so worth it for general coverage.

>>15983519
It's not THAT hard, not OP but it took me about a day and a half.

Have dittos with 30 sp.a and speed, got them both onto a timid magnemite then bred with a ditto from there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 19:00:26 No.15983931 Report

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>>15982959
Fire definitely, it's nice to trap opposing Scizor, Ferrothorn and Forretress (unless it's running Volt Switch) and demolish them with HP Fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 19:04:34 No.15984028 Report

Quoted By: >>15984113

>>15983871

>checking for 30 IVs

How do you even do this without 99 rare candies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 19:08:26 No.15984113 Report

Quoted By: >>15984179

>>15984028

If the stat is the same at lv.30 as it would be for a perfect iv, but the iv checker doesn't say it's perfect, it's 30.

you can go to battle institute to check further

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 19:09:28 No.15984139 Report

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>>15983871
i also have a 4iv ditto with 28 defense so i can make hp ice genderless stuff really easy

got rotoms like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 19:09:49 No.15984147 Report

Quoted By: >>15984164

Also use Sturdy instead of Magnet Pull unless you have a balloon on him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 19:10:37 No.15984164 Report

Quoted By: >>15984264

>>15984147
or you don't want to trap steel types

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 19:11:25 No.15984179 Report

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>>15984113

Alright, thanks, guess I should go catch a box of dittos to check...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 19:14:23 No.15984255 Report

Quoted By: >>15985982

Mfw I've already seen Japs using HP Fire magneton and other mons with the ideal HP ingame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 19:14:40 No.15984264 Report

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>>15984164
Two of the most common Steel types are Lucario and Excadrill, both of which could OHKO Magnezone.

So unless you're sure that HP Fire is gonna OHKO them first, Magnet Pull is kinda useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 20:18:50 No.15985982 Report

Quoted By: >>15986748

>>15984255
H-How? They just breed until they get what they want? How autistic is that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 20:47:21 No.15986748 Report

Quoted By: >>15986796

>>15985982
They're not autistic they just know what they're doing

it REALLY isn't that hard, you just need dittos with 30s in the proper stats and after that it's just like breeding perfect mons from scratch.

Granted genderless take longer but are still very doable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 20:49:17 No.15986796 Report

Quoted By: >>15986907

>>15986748
I'm talking about Hidden Power. You still can't know what HP you'll get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2013 20:54:17 No.15986907 Report

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>>15986796
I know, the system is still 99% the same if not exactly the same as gen 5.

I have hp ice rotoms and hp fire froakies that took less than a few hours to make (granted i had perfect iv versions already and just needed to replace some stats with 30s)

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