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Numeru Sun 17 Nov 2013 00:57:59 No.15993961 View View Reply Original Report

Possible base statistics of Diancie, Volcanion & Hoopa!!
Diancie: https://twitter.com/Parque_Compi/status/401749907742007296
Volcanion: https://twitter.com/Parque_Compi/status/401749975081553920
Hoopa: https://twitter.com/Parque_Compi/status/401750052298706944
The order is: HP, Att, Def, S.Att, S.Def and Spd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:01:29 No.15994056 Report

Quoted By: >>15994157 >>15995084

Diancie is literally a stronger carbink. Holy shit, that could be incredibly overpowered.

If these are legit, I'd say Diancie > Hoopa > Volcanion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:05:15 No.15994157 Report

Quoted By:

>>15994056
>all those defenses with that shit HP
yeah nah, same reason shuckle is shit.
Hoopa>Volcanion>Diancie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:06:14 No.15994182 Report

Quoted By:

Posts are protected. Care to post them here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:07:11 No.15994214 Report

Quoted By: >>15994314

>linking to protected tweets
>being retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:08:35 No.15994262 Report

Quoted By:

Why the fuck do people use made up languages?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:10:22 No.15994314 Report

Quoted By:

>>15994214
They were unprotected before. They all have around 600 BSTs, Volcanion has high atk, diancie is an amplified carbink, and hoopa is a special sweeper with high satk and spe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:10:31 No.15994322 Report

Quoted By:

>>15993961
Stats confirm relation between carbink and diancie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:12:17 No.15994380 Report

Quoted By:

>Volcanion has 610 BST

That's completely retarded, so I believe it.

Unless it's a double bluff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:13:32 No.15994421 Report

Quoted By: >>15994477

anyone know the typings yet? I know all but hoopas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:14:14 No.15994450 Report

Quoted By: >>15994633 >>15994915 >>15995686 >>15997369

Diancie: 50/75/175/75/175/50
Volcanion: 90/140/110/105/110/55
Hoopa: 70/70/90/155/90/125

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:15:03 No.15994477 Report

Quoted By: >>15994515

>>15994421
>being retarded
Diancie is Rock/Fairy
Volcanion is Fire/Water
Hoopa is Psychic/Ghost

Welcome to a month ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:16:20 No.15994515 Report

Quoted By: >>15994618

>>15994477
>not being allowed to forget one pokemons typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:19:45 No.15994618 Report

Quoted By: >>15995111

>>15994515
but he asked if anyone knew the typings. that's the absolute retardedness of the post. of course someone knows the typings. if at least one person in existence knows the typings, then someone knows the typings. goddamn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:20:12 No.15994633 Report

Quoted By:

>>15994450
Volvanion will need an Trick room considering its weaknesses

For Diancle.... I dunno. Does it get Levitate at least?

Hoopa looks good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:26:02 No.15994806 Report

Quoted By: >>15994853 >>15995365

>Diancie is defensive
Fuck everything

Seriously, nothing with that many common weaknesses shouldn't be defenses. At 175 base defense and 50 HP, it doesn't even matter.

If you're using Earthquake, Surf/Waterfall, Leaf Storm/whatever grass move, that's practically hitting something that has 50/87/87 defenses. Nobody would call something with 50/87/87 defenses good. Especially if it doesn't have any form of recovery.

Now a neutral Bullet Punch or Gyro Ball is hitting against 50/44/44 defenses.
Even fucking Salamence and Gengar have better defenses than that and they both get one-shot by Bullet Punches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:27:31 No.15994853 Report

Quoted By:

>>15994806
welcoem to gamefruck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:28:40 No.15994915 Report

Quoted By: >>15994948 >>15995459

>>15994450

>Gen 6 doesn't have a Mew equivalent in addition to lacking a lesser legendary trio

Now that's just embarrassing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:29:40 No.15994948 Report

Quoted By:

>>15994915
Too many legendaries from Gen 4 and 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:31:18 No.15994996 Report

Quoted By: >>15995065 >>15995075

Guys

Guys

what if

Diancie gets Geomancy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:32:22 No.15995023 Report

Quoted By:

>Volcanion
Solid bulk, muh mixed attacking, shame about the shit speed. Could be a good tank.
>Hoopa
That special and speed tho
>Diancie
It's shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:33:36 No.15995065 Report

Quoted By: >>15995116

>>15994996
Geomancy and recover and It will be good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:34:05 No.15995075 Report

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>>15994996
Still dies spectacularly to Bullet Punch and Aqua Jet. Still has fuckall for HP so you're losing to goddamned seismic toss chansey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:34:25 No.15995084 Report

Quoted By:

>>15994056
lel no
>50 HP
intothetrashitgoes.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:35:02 No.15995111 Report

Quoted By:

>>15994618
Holy fuck you are an autist and I hate the way that word is used on the net. I'm at awe of you.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:35:09 No.15995116 Report

Quoted By: >>15995133

>>15995065
>yfw its ability is Unburden

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:35:51 No.15995133 Report

Quoted By: >>15995183 >>15995232

>>15995116
>all that speed
>incredibly weak to some of the most common priority this gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:37:29 No.15995175 Report

Quoted By: >>15995215 >>15995292

Still No 100/100/100/100/100
The gen they introduce fairy... no fairy pixie?...
Damn Trollfreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:37:45 No.15995183 Report

Quoted By: >>15995268

>>15995133
>keeping it in on priority users
Why not just let your scizor deal with a fire-type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:38:46 No.15995215 Report

Quoted By: >>15995262 >>15995287 >>15995389

>>15995175
Ten bucks Mew or Manaphy or some shit becomes part Fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:39:26 No.15995232 Report

Quoted By:

>>15995133
it's called switching out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:40:19 No.15995259 Report

Quoted By: >>15995291

What if Diancie is a mega-carbink.

Stats seem to say so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:40:24 No.15995262 Report

Quoted By:

>>15995215
thanks for the ten bucks!

see, because it's already been proven that they haven't been changed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:40:46 No.15995268 Report

Quoted By:

>>15995183
>boosting up
>using up your item slot on the ability to boost
>fucking yourself over by not even being able to boost once you switch back in
None of these are situations wherein you want to keep switching out every single time you see a threat.

Scizor can at least superpower a Heatran or something if need be. Or if it gets scared off, it can come back in and just keep bullet punching, grabbing a swords dance on the switch, or anything like that.

Geomancy fucks that over entirely by being 2-turn without that herb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:40:51 No.15995275 Report

Quoted By: >>15995398

I still don't get why Diancie couldn't have just been an evo to Carbink and be done with it....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:41:17 No.15995287 Report

Quoted By:

>>15995215
>steel/fairy jirachi

if it's true then my one hope of being able to fuck jirachi in the ass with aegislash will be ruined

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:41:23 No.15995291 Report

Quoted By: >>15995338

>>15995259
It wouldn't have a seperate name

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:41:26 No.15995292 Report

Quoted By:

>>15995175

Gen 6.5 soon, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:42:52 No.15995338 Report

Quoted By: >>15995396

>>15995291
I mean a mega carbink as in origins, not gameplay wise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:43:43 No.15995365 Report

Quoted By: >>15995583

>>15994806
Bast Stats don't work like that, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:44:31 No.15995389 Report

Quoted By: >>15995492

>>15995215

The global link was used to check the types of all the unavailable legendaries. None of them were turned into Fairy types.

Xerneas' diabetes plague is only strong enough to affect normal Pokemon. Fellow legendaries just laugh at that stupid deer's attempt to put a new type on them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:44:43 No.15995396 Report

Quoted By: >>15995445

>>15995338
It isn't related to Carbink, get over it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:44:47 No.15995398 Report

Quoted By:

>>15995275
>Evolite Carbink
Anon pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:46:28 No.15995445 Report

Quoted By: >>15996060

>>15995396
>Not related to Carbink
>Japanese names are similar
>They look similar
>Similar stat distribution
>Not related

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:47:05 No.15995459 Report

Quoted By: >>15995511

>>15994915
What do you think AZ's Floette is going to be, Anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:48:20 No.15995492 Report

Quoted By: >>15995534

>>15995389
Mega Mew then.

Whenever Pokemon Q comes out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:49:14 No.15995511 Report

Quoted By: >>15995658

>>15995459
Florges

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:49:58 No.15995534 Report

Quoted By: >>15995670

>>15995492
>Mega Mew with +20 to every base stat and Protean
End of days

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:51:34 No.15995583 Report

Quoted By:

>>15995365
You're right, I forgot it's a straight division like how Azumarill is a straight multiplication so it basically has 150 base attack instead of just 100.

Looking at just Carbink, it has 50/150/150 stats
At max defenses, it reaches 438 defenses.
Halved, that's 219.
That's base 50, not base 75.
4x attacks hit against its 109 total defense.
That's less defense than neutral natured Chansey, not even holding Eviolite. With under half as much HP.
Chansey has 5 base defense.

That's a maxed Carbink.

Diancie only adds 25 points. 50 at level 100.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:53:59 No.15995658 Report

Quoted By: >>15995731

>>15995511
There's no model for a Florges with the color scheme and flower of AZ's Floette. If it's ever released, it'll be the Spiky-Eared Pichu done right, hopefully.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:54:09 No.15995670 Report

Quoted By: >>15995776

>>15995534
>Mega Arceus
>Mega Kyurem Origin Forme

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:54:42 No.15995686 Report

Quoted By: >>15995778

>>15994450
>155 Sp. Attack

Brutal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:55:29 No.15995713 Report

Quoted By:

Mega Shuckle when?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:56:20 No.15995731 Report

Quoted By:

>>15995658
I was just being a smart-ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:57:48 No.15995758 Report

Quoted By: >>15995830 >>15996094

>>15993961
Seems like it'll be like
Diancie > Volcanion > Hoopa

Unless Hoopa has an ability that makes it immune to priority moves, it'll get rekt'd by sucker punch, shadow sneak, and not to mention pursuit. Considering how those attacks are everywhere at the moment, it won't matter how high it's spd and spA are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:58:13 No.15995776 Report

Quoted By: >>15995994

>>15995670
>Mega Genesect
>Speed Boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:58:20 No.15995778 Report

Quoted By: >>15995803 >>15995893

>>15995686

Unless it gets a nice signature move it's somewhat dragged down by the fact its STAB moves have awful BP.

Sheer Force Psychic and Shadow Ball?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 01:59:12 No.15995803 Report

Quoted By:

>>15995778
90 BP with no drawbacks isn't all that bad at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:00:20 No.15995830 Report

Quoted By:

>>15995758
Derp. Meant to be
Volcanion > Diancie > Hoopa

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:00:40 No.15995842 Report

Quoted By:

So, Diance is the 600 bst legendary of this gen? Does that mean there's no trio of legendaries yet?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:01:40 No.15995869 Report

Quoted By:

>Hoopa is a trickster gypsy
>Favourite Gen VI legendary
>One of my favourite legendaries yet
>155 SpA
>125 Speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:02:28 No.15995893 Report

Quoted By:

>>15995778
Considering Ghost's coverage, the Special Attack nerf, Hoopa's Speed, and the fact that it looks like more of a Prankster than anything else (with those classic Ghost and Psychic support movepools, no less), it'll be fine.

Especially if it does have Prankster. No ban will be swift enough. Mark my words.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:06:08 No.15995984 Report

Quoted By:

>Hoopa gets Prankster

Please. Please let it get something to deal with priority. Give it a signature attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:06:52 No.15995994 Report

Quoted By:

>>15995776

>Not Tinted Lens to go with the mega evo being its original form, which was feared as the strongest of hunters

Speed Boost should become Genesect's hidden ability instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:09:45 No.15996060 Report

Quoted By:

>>15995445
>luvdisc
>alomoamaomoa or whatever the hell it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:11:00 No.15996094 Report

Quoted By: >>15996147 >>15996227

>>15995758
Both forms of Gengar die to all of those same things and they do just fine. Hoopa is better than base Gengar in every single stat. You're out of your mind if you think it's the worst out of these 3.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:12:25 No.15996129 Report

Quoted By:

>Volcanion's Attack is higher than it's Special attack
>signature move is special

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:13:10 No.15996147 Report

Quoted By: >>15996227 >>15996254 >>15996310 >>15996356

>>15996094

>Hoopa released
>Does everything Gengar does, but better
>Everyone stops using Gengar
>And thus, there were no more Pokémon who have always been OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:16:23 No.15996227 Report

Quoted By: >>15996279

>>15996094
>>15996147

unless hoopa has a mega form with fucking SHADOW TAG, gengar isn't going anywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:17:23 No.15996254 Report

Quoted By: >>15996285 >>15996292 >>15996300 >>15996317

>>15996147
Is Gengar really the only perma-OU Pokemon? Oh no, I hope Megengar doesn't get it banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:18:10 No.15996279 Report

Quoted By: >>15996311 >>15996325

>>15996227
>BASE gengar
>reading comprehension

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:18:25 No.15996285 Report

Quoted By:

>>15996254
They would probably only ban Gengarite just like they do with Soul Dew.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:18:42 No.15996292 Report

Quoted By:

>>15996254

starmie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:19:21 No.15996300 Report

Quoted By:

>>15996254
Starmie is the only other one I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:19:33 No.15996310 Report

Quoted By:

>>15996147
Gengars reign will never stop
>gen 7 it gets a signature move to compliment its 6 generation OU usage
BP100 ACC 100
Side effect: puts target to sleep

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:19:37 No.15996311 Report

Quoted By: >>15996338

>>15996279
>Blaziken is banned even with Blaze

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:19:44 No.15996317 Report

Quoted By:

>>15996254
Starmie as well I think

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:20:12 No.15996325 Report

Quoted By:

>>15996279

>not reading the other post that was quoted
>being a faggot and super quick to point out everybody's mistakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:20:42 No.15996338 Report

Quoted By:

>>15996311

Gengarite is an item. It'll be banned like Soul Dew.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:21:26 No.15996356 Report

Quoted By: >>15996561

>>15996147
Gengar was briefly BL during the ADV days, but still started and finished Gen III in OU.
Besides, Hoopa should be able to get itself tossed into Ubers. If Lando-I and Thundurus-I could do it last gen...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:22:47 No.15996391 Report

Quoted By:

>people really think hoopa won't shit all over OU

It's getting banned ala Skymin/Darkrai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:23:22 No.15996405 Report

Quoted By:

>Hoopa not 100 in all fields
So no mew clone legendary yet

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:26:01 No.15996478 Report

Quoted By: >>15996529 >>15996564

>that unresisted STAB typing on hoopa
>that speed
>that special attack

Can't wait

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:28:10 No.15996529 Report

Quoted By: >>15996564 >>15996649

>>15996478

>unresisted

Any mono-Dark Pokemon or Dark Pokemon with a secondary typing that isn't weak to ghost or psychic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:29:34 No.15996561 Report

Quoted By: >>15996678

>>15996356
>Besides, Hoopa should be able to get itself tossed into Ubers. If Lando-I and Thundurus-I could do it last gen...
Especially if it gets Prankster or Shadow Tag. Both of them feel extremely likely to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:29:46 No.15996564 Report

Quoted By: >>15996678

>>15996478
Dark-types.
What are you on?
I mean it'll still probably have Focus Blast, but christ.
>>15996529
>or Psychic
Dark is immune to that, Dark/Poison or Fighting still resists Ghost/Psychic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:31:30 No.15996606 Report

Quoted By:

These all look like shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:32:56 No.15996648 Report

Quoted By: >>15996808

Fairy trio Confirmed already.

Diance: Dark /fairy
Volcanion: Fire / fairy
Hoopa: Ghost / fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:32:55 No.15996649 Report

Quoted By: >>15996808

>>15996529

>psychic

i thought it was ghost/fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:33:56 No.15996678 Report

Quoted By:

>>15996564

Ah yeah, wasn't paying much attention to my words.

>>15996561

I'm leaning towards Levitate, honestly. Cursed Body and Frisk are also popular in ghost types. It might get some shitty psychic ability like Inner Focus, too, however.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:38:07 No.15996808 Report

Quoted By: >>15996853

>>15996649
>>15996648
No. For the longest time, we've known the typings to be:
Rock/Fairy Diancie
Fire/Water Volcanion
Ghost/Psychic Hoopa.

For fuck's sake, it's stated in the fucking thread!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:40:06 No.15996853 Report

Quoted By:

>>15996808
I'm pretty sure the second one you quoted was just b8 bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Nov 2013 02:59:50 No.15997369 Report

Quoted By:

>>15994450
>Diancie: 50/75/175/75/175/50
Shucklebink 2: Useless Boogaloo

>Volcanion: 90/140/110/105/110/55
It's a slower physical, physical Heatran pretty much. It could end up surprisingly good like Heatran or be complete and total garbage.

>Hoopa: 70/70/90/155/90/125
This motherfucker's a threat.

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