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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 16:52:33 No.16078578 View View Reply Original Report

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>Baton Pass teams

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 16:53:13 No.16078594 Report

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>set-up sweepers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 16:53:56 No.16078608 Report

Quoted By: >>16078663 >>16078742 >>16078818 >>16079965

I have yet to see a baton-pass team succeed.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 16:55:14 No.16078630 Report

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>Mega Evolutions

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 16:56:19 No.16078645 Report

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>Water Absorb

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 16:57:36 No.16078663 Report

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>>16078608

Having baton pass on something that can make use of it is fine

Building a team around it is just asking for failure

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 16:57:40 No.16078664 Report

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>Dragon types

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 16:59:17 No.16078696 Report

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>Foe's Cloyster used Shell Smash!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:01:49 No.16078742 Report

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>>16078608

I haven't seen that either

I can't even imagine how discouraging is to see your baton pass strategy failing over and over

It is a miracle if they don't rage quit instantly after that

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:01:59 No.16078744 Report

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>Foe's Breloom used Spore!

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:03:50 No.16078779 Report

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>Trainer sent in Aegislash!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:04:33 No.16078791 Report

Quoted By: >>16078815 >>16079621 >>16079789 >>16079968

>Klefki

Encountered my first one of these fuckers earlier today. Holy mother of god why.

>Send out my own Prankster
>Try and taunt him
>Paraconfused
>Finally taunt him, he just spams foul play while behind a substitute
>10 turns later, finally get him into a situation where my brave 252 attack EV perfect IV aegislash has a weakness policy triggered and he's exposed without a substitute
>Over 400 attack stat in a level 50 game
>Shadow sneak that fucker
>It barely scratches him
>Taunt wears off the same turn

This guy has got to be banned, now. He's worse than Wobuffet. Literally the only way to kill him is to send out a fire-type physical sweeper and land your first hit despite the confusion. Fuck I'm so mad about these fucking keys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:05:56 No.16078815 Report

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>>16078791
>caring about bans
Do you only play on simulators?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:06:01 No.16078818 Report

Quoted By: >>16078849 >>16078897

>>16078608
>get on showdown
>ninjask, mega kanga, and some filler
>"lol 3 pokes? "
>sweep them

Espically fun when it's with jirachi.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:07:35 No.16078849 Report

Quoted By: >>16079599

>>16078818
>Trainer sent in Ditto!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:09:27 No.16078897 Report

Quoted By: >>16078984

>>16078818
>see Ninjask
>Lead with Roar
Bess team evar so tuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:13:39 No.16078984 Report

Quoted By: >>16079062 >>16079137

>>16078897
>lead with roar

Said no one ever. Baton teams are non serious gimmicks that works against the meta. Your team must be pretty shitty if you lead with roar.

Also
>protect
>I pass to some stupid shit with suction cups

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:17:39 No.16079062 Report

Quoted By: >>16079221

>>16078984
>Your team must be pretty shitty if you lead with roar.

Roar is nearly a direct counter to baton-pass Ninjask. I didn't say I lead with Roar on a regular basis.

>your team is shitty if it counters my baton pass team!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:20:28 No.16079137 Report

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>>16078984
I'm so tempted to run a Klutz Swoobat with the Assault Vest and Trick to permanently stop Baton Passers, Pranksters, Hazard Setters, and Clerics.

It's pretty inefficient, but I'd be using it for rage, not utility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:23:49 No.16079221 Report

Quoted By: >>16079377 >>16079399 >>16079468

>>16079062
Read the context moron. Lead with roar you lose the precious opportunity of start game setup and will be putting yourself at a massive disadvantage.

And no, you dumbass might as well originally said haze.

Battle with a semi competent player and a full baton pass team will have you sweating bullets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:30:35 No.16079377 Report

Quoted By: >>16079447

>>16079221
>You should set up on the first turn instead of completely shutting down the opponents strategy

I'm sorry, but you are not good at this game.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:31:41 No.16079399 Report

Quoted By: >>16079490

>>16079221
>Battle with a semi competent player and a full baton pass team will have you sweating bullets.
>competent player
>full baton pass team

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:33:27 No.16079447 Report

Quoted By: >>16079494 >>16079525

>>16079377
While they get a free turn to setup and your dumbass roars?

Galatical kek

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:34:09 No.16079468 Report

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>>16079221
>Lead with roar you lose the precious opportunity of start game setup
Why would someone NOT use Roar to end your set-up? Because you'd rather they lead with Spikes so you can set up on them?

>YOU SHOULDNT COUNTER ME, IDIOT

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:35:03 No.16079490 Report

Quoted By: >>16079511

>>16079399
Baton pass teams have no flaws. The only way to fuck up is human error.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:35:13 No.16079494 Report

Quoted By: >>16079517

>>16079447
What?

Do you not understand what Roar does?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:36:06 No.16079505 Report

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I still believe that a Baton Pass Scolipede with Speed Boost can be useful.

Gale 1263-6158-3139 (Emolga, Pachirisu, Zebstrika)

Gale 1263-6158-3139 (Emolga, Pachirisu, Zebstrika) Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:36:25 No.16079511 Report

Quoted By: >>16079541

>>16079490

doesn't phasing kind of completely fuck up baton passing though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:37:01 No.16079517 Report

Quoted By: >>16079589

>>16079494
Do you really think roar can stop a baton chain?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:37:35 No.16079525 Report

Quoted By: >>16079567

>>16079447
>Foe's Ninjask used Swords Dance/Substitute/Baton Pass
>Anon used Roar!
Then your Pokemon gets switched out and your chain is broken. The only thing you can do is pass into something with Suction Cups, but the ONLY thing you'd be able to get off is a Speed Boost by using Protect. Anything else and you get Roared away before you Baton Pass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:38:39 No.16079541 Report

Quoted By: >>16079612

>>16079511
There's Mr.mime and taunt for starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:40:19 No.16079567 Report

Quoted By: >>16079577

>>16079525
Protect
They use roar
Pass to Mr.mime
Reflect or light screen
They attack or switch, survive
Pass to something else

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:41:10 No.16079577 Report

Quoted By: >>16079590

>>16079567
>Pass to something else
>Anon uses Roar again

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:41:49 No.16079589 Report

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>>16079517
Easily.

Keep boosting. Go ahead. Roar has 100% accuracy and will go through subs. Only Suction Cups will stop it. Unless you're planning on passing to Cradilly or Octilery, you're going to lose all your work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:41:52 No.16079590 Report

Quoted By: >>16079614

>>16079577
>I use taunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:42:15 No.16079599 Report

Quoted By: >>16079653

>>16078849
i think your point got buried under baton pass arguments

Gale 1263-6158-3139 (Emolga, Pachirisu, Zebstrika)

Gale 1263-6158-3139 (Emolga, Pachirisu, Zebstrika) Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:42:59 No.16079612 Report

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>>16079541

I guess but there's plenty of ways to get around that, like them using taunt themselves. Not to say it isn't viable but I don't really think you can accurately claim it to be "flawless".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:43:08 No.16079614 Report

Quoted By: >>16079664

>>16079590
So, to be clear, you're passing from what, Ninjask, to Mr. Mime, to a Taunt user?

Alternatively
>Whirlwind

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:43:42 No.16079621 Report

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>>16078791
>having a problem with boo boo keys

have you tried ground type moves? theyre new age

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:45:40 No.16079653 Report

Quoted By: >>16079691

>>16079599

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:46:03 No.16079664 Report

Quoted By: >>16079695

>>16079614
I'm passing +1 ninjask to Mr.mime, which is immune to roar. I then setup reflect/ light screen depending on team.

If you're a moron you'll try to roar again giving me a free turn, otherwise you'll attack, which then I'll taunt you and then likely send out smeargle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:47:15 No.16079691 Report

Quoted By: >>16080016

>>16079653
but i for one think ditto is the answer to most problems people complain of. cheers to the cute little pink blob!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:47:36 No.16079695 Report

Quoted By: >>16079727 >>16079751

>>16079664
>Ninjask
>Mr. Mime
>Smeargle
Oh my goodness.

>What is Taunt
>What is Whirlwind
>What is prediction
>What is Ditto

I could go on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:49:08 No.16079727 Report

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>>16079695
I'd like to add
>Red Card
>Priority
>Focus Sash

>MUH PEFECT BATON PASS TEAM

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:50:31 No.16079751 Report

Quoted By: >>16079791 >>16079930

>>16079695
You're forgetting the +1 from ninjask. You'll never even get to use any of those moves. Once ingrain is down you'll be helpless and disconnect like a little bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:52:36 No.16079789 Report

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>>16078791
>+2 252+ Aegislash's shadow sneak did "barely a scratch" to an unboosted Klefki
Either you didn't have weakness policy or you're full of shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:52:41 No.16079791 Report

Quoted By: >>16079848

>>16079751
>See Ninjask and Mr. Mime in preview
>Lead with Gengar, Aegislash, [insert Ghost type]
Especially since you can Sub or Swords Dance with the above.

Baton Pass teams are not unbeatable and you are scrub of the year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:55:36 No.16079848 Report

Quoted By: >>16079866

>>16079791
>team preview
>calling other scrubs

Jesus christ. Why don't you just ask your opponent what their moves are.

Why bother even playing if you're going to play like a little whipped bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 17:56:25 No.16079866 Report

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>>16079848
-1/10

Best I can do

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 18:00:25 No.16079930 Report

Quoted By: >>16079988

>>16079751
>You'll never get to use any of those moves
>Not leading with a Whirlwind and using it until Ninjask passes into anything
Only Suction Cups counters that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 18:02:23 No.16079965 Report

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>>16078608
Ive won plenty of battles on Gen 5 OU with a baton pass team

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 18:02:30 No.16079968 Report

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>>16078791
I'm thinking of putting Hyper Voice on something, just for substitutes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 18:03:41 No.16079988 Report

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>>16079930
>waiting for your opponent to switch in the perfect counter against a pokemon that obviously does phasing

Really?

Are you the same guy that said to use roar against Mr.mime?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 18:05:24 No.16080016 Report

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>>16079691
I agree. More competitve dittos please

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 18:06:49 No.16080041 Report

Quoted By: >>16080049

>all Imposter-Ditto team
I had this idea the other day.
Isn't this potentially fucking awesome?
How do you counter someone playing your own hand against you?
There will be log outs, rage, stalling, tears.
It'll be great!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 18:07:40 No.16080049 Report

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>>16080041
so
> original.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 18:09:43 No.16080085 Report

Quoted By: >>16080138

>baton pass teams

le taunt
le phazing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 18:12:30 No.16080138 Report

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>>16080085
le gets rekt by normal teams

I don't even think dedicated anti BP teams can beat BP teams. Maybe an explosion team would work, but still very unlikely.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2013 18:32:54 No.16080540 Report

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>set up speed boosts for baton passing
>manage to get off a swords dance as well
>they will-o-wisp on the pass
>I passed into Heracross

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