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Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 20:54:28 No.16113821 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16113910 >>16114782 >>16118516 >>16119342

>Gengar and Mega-Gengar are now Ghost/Fighting and have access to Aura Sphere
>Staraptor has now 110 Base Vel, is Flying/Fighting and has Gale Wings
>Forretress has now Bulletproof and learns Sticky Web
>Scizor now learns Power-Up Punch, Fake Out and Bulldoze
>Shuckle has now Stance Change

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 20:57:59 No.16113905 Report

Quoted By: >>16114063

Okay, let's go down the list.
>Mega Gengar with STAB Aura Sphere, unresisted STABs, and no weakness to Ground anymore
GO DIRECTLY TO UBERS, DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT $200
>Staraptor with 110 base Speed, a Fighting subtype and Gale Wings
GO DIRECTLY TO UBERS, DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT $200
>Forretress with Sticky Web and Bulletproof
Why not? This should actually be true!
>Power-Up Punch/Fake Out/Bulldoze Scizor
DAMN.
>Stance Change Shuckle
GO DIRECTLY TO UBERS, DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT $200

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 20:58:18 No.16113910 Report

Quoted By: >>16114021

>>16113821
Your ideas for Gengar and Shuckle make no sense, from a flavor standpoint.

Also, what is your native language?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:03:15 No.16114021 Report

Quoted By: >>16114164

>>16113910

Spanish. I know I fucked up and it should have been "now has", but didn't realize it until now because I'm tired as fuck. Shuckle is actually nonsense because HP and vel are shit tier, it's just for lolling, and Gengar is thinking more from a metagame view.

Just really wanted to have a "wish this ever happened" thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:05:10 No.16114063 Report

Quoted By: >>16114406

>>16113905

You forget the point where he doesn't rely in Focus Miss anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:08:55 No.16114164 Report

Quoted By: >>16114388

>>16114021
Fair enough. Honestly, the grammar mistakes weren't what tipped me off, rather, your use of "vel" for what's called the "Speed" stat in English was what gave it away.

But we can have a "what if" thread, that's cool, it's just easier/more fun if we keep things consistent with the flavor of the mechanics and Pokemon that we're trying to buff/nerf.

For example: I wish Zygarde had had Xerneas and Yveltal's stat spread, only with the offenses swapped with the defenses, and an ability that negated (or reversed) STAB or something for all Pokemon in battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:10:45 No.16114222 Report

Quoted By: >>16114331 >>16114796

Autism thread?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:11:02 No.16114231 Report

Quoted By: >>16114438

If Stance Change interacted with Protect, I could see it working.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:14:01 No.16114331 Report

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>>16114222
>>16110801

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:15:53 No.16114388 Report

Quoted By: >>16115462 >>16115510 >>16116695

>>16114164

>Vel instead of Spe

Happens to me every time in every single game where the Speed stat is present.

A Ghost/Fightint Gengar is something I've wanted to see since I got on competitive in Gen IV. While it's true that now Poison is rising as a Fairy slayer, Faes don't get seen that much and I don't even use Sludge Bomb. An Aura Sphere / Shadow Ball Gengar would be pretty sweet even if he wasn't Fighting type. Also

>Ice now resists Water, Grass and Flying and is Neutral to Rock
>Weavile now has Technician
>Garchomp now has Moxie
>Mega-Pinsir now learns Extremespeed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:16:22 No.16114406 Report

Quoted By:

>>16114063
But still.
>that gengar
>its rape train having brakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:17:11 No.16114438 Report

Quoted By:

>>16114231

Yes, we could assume it. Shuckle getting King's Shield is just plain retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:24:18 No.16114621 Report

Quoted By: >>16114667

>The 110 Base Speed Flying / Fighting Staraptor with Gale Wings now learns Bulk Up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:25:52 No.16114667 Report

Quoted By: >>16114702

>>16114621
>rape train has no breaks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:26:56 No.16114702 Report

Quoted By: >>16117226

>>16114667

Ironically Staraptor would counter Staraptor thanks to Gale Wings Brave Bird

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:29:50 No.16114782 Report

Quoted By:

>>16113821

>Ferrothorn now learns Spiky Shield
>Cloyster now learns Water Shuriken
>Heatran now learns Mystical Fire

Have at thee.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:30:23 No.16114796 Report

Quoted By:

>>16114222
TRIPS

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:32:31 No.16114852 Report

Quoted By: >>16114949

Staraptor getting Gale Wings alone would push him to high OU/broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:35:08 No.16114949 Report

Quoted By: >>16115136

>>16114852

Nah way he's too frail and SR weak to be broken. But he would be OU for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:41:21 No.16115136 Report

Quoted By: >>16115193

>>16114949
I'm pretty sure that Talonflame is frailer, and if Staraptor were Flying/Fighting like OP suggested, it'd be neutral to Stealth Rocks.

And it has 120+ base Attack. It would be stronger than Extremekiller.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:43:21 No.16115193 Report

Quoted By: >>16115383

>>16115136

Talonflame is slowly dropping in usage and would be definitely gone when PokeBank brings Heatran. Right now he's weak to Rocks and both Tyranitar and Hippowdon hardcounter him. And I'm sure PokeBank will bring more pokemon that can counter Talonflame but I simply don't remember them. Also Aqua Jet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:51:44 No.16115383 Report

Quoted By: >>16116546

>>16115193
See, but the problem is that Flying/Fighting GW Staraptor wouldn't have those issues. STAB Close Combat takes care of Heatran and Tyranitar, as well as predicted switch-ins to Ice Shard users that might not die to Brave Bird, and, once again, it wouldn't be weak to Rocks. With Sticky Web support, it would tear apart everything with STAB Close Combat and priority Brave Bird once a select few potential counters have been removed.
Remember, Flying/Fighting was/is a pretty good type combination,Staraptor was/is a pretty good Pokemon, and Gale Wings is an amazingly good ability. Putting them all into one package is easily worth a top spot in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:55:14 No.16115462 Report

Quoted By:

>>16114388
ok satan calm down

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 21:57:24 No.16115510 Report

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>>16114388
>Ice now resists Water, Grass and Flying and is Neutral to Rock
>grass now resisted by 8 types

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 22:20:08 No.16116078 Report

Quoted By: >>16116522 >>16117760

>Mega Nidoking
>becomes Poison/Dark
>Ability stays Sheer Force
>gets big Special Attack and Speed stat boost, maybe to 105 or 110

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 22:36:47 No.16116522 Report

Quoted By: >>16116733 >>16117760

>>16116078
Knowing GF they'd give him an attack boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 22:37:52 No.16116546 Report

Quoted By:

>>16115383
Exactly, Staraptor is a BL Pokemon, Talonflame would be RU/NU at best if it wasn't for GW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 22:44:00 No.16116695 Report

Quoted By: >>16116739

>>16114388
>Moxie Garchomo
No
>Ice resisting grass or flying, like those two need a nerf
How about Ground? More things need to not fear Earthquake.
>Technician Weavile
Why not
>E-Speed Mega Pinsir
Maybe...

>Gengar not being poison

No, Gengar's line has always been about poison and gas. Fighting would make no sense, and Poison is a good defensive type anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 22:45:33 No.16116733 Report

Quoted By:

>>16116522
They already did this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 22:45:43 No.16116739 Report

Quoted By:

>>16116695
>Garchomo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 23:03:23 No.16117226 Report

Quoted By: >>16118109

>>16114702
>the only way to stop the rape train is by crashing another rape train into it

Also:

>Flygon gets Swords Dance and Sand Rush
>Mold Breaker also makes ineffective moves not-very-effective instead
>Ice resists Normal
>Lucario gets Mega Launcher

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 23:06:21 No.16117304 Report

Quoted By: >>16117859

>Ghost/Fighting
>All those weaknesses
>Shitty resistance to Bug and that's it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 23:24:09 No.16117760 Report

Quoted By:

>>16116078
>losing Ground STAB
>>16116522
So? I prefer Physical Nidoking anyway I'd assume and hope that by the time Mega Nido comes out it also gets some Physical additions to its movepool

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 23:27:56 No.16117859 Report

Quoted By:

>>16117304
Do you not know how typing works?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 23:30:51 No.16117941 Report

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>Dragon Dance now raises Attack, Special Attack, and Speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 23:37:02 No.16118109 Report

Quoted By:

>>16117226
>Ice resists Normal

Why this hasn't happen yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2013 23:50:41 No.16118516 Report

Quoted By:

>>16113821
Why is this old image suddenly megapopular again?

Desu 3582-9559-3612 Grass (Tangela, Swadloon, Quilladin)

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Desu 3582-9559-3612 Grass (Tangela, Swadloon, Quilladin) Thu 21 Nov 2013 00:21:04 No.16119342 Report

Quoted By:

>>16113821
Mega Staraptor
Flying/Fighting
Gale Wings

HP: 80
Att: 120 -> 165
Def: 70 - >85
SpA: 50 -> 40
SpD: 60 -> 70
Spe: 100 -> 130

Staraptor is my favorite PokeMon, but damn, that would be pretty broken as fuck, being neutral to SR.

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