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-Is this going to be a game/rom hack/computer game?
This is the current intention. However, we are at a very early stage in development right now, so a fully-functional game is quite a ways off. Current priorities are the new Pokemon (especially Legendaries) and story.
-Isn't this just Gen /vp/ 2.0?
Well, it is a fan game made by people on /vp/ featuring a suite of newly-designed Pokemon. This is where the similarities end, however. They are doing their own thing, and we are doing our own thing.
-KANGAROO STARTER?!/1?1
There are tons of Kangaroo ideas to work with, chill son.
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Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
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http://www.noteflight.com/scores/view/dba2b130c3eef79b39e5c0f30125be2e8c44d156 I made a folder with all the music so far. I think you guys can access it.
I would suggest, for convenience, everyone who want's to stay up to date with the music should make a noteflight account. (it's free)
Anonymous
Cave painting mimic spider.
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
Does anyone have a list of confirmed Pokemon with names and pictures?
Anonymous
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>>16177266 Nothing is currently confirmed.
Anonymous
Need a Drawfag to fleshout this wonderful concept.
Anonymous
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>>16177266 No pokemon are confirmed yet.
And is it just me or does that song for the grassland route remind me of They Might Be Giants?
Anonymous
>>16177213 Ooh, great!
>>16177266 This is the closest thing we have, though it's not at all set in stone.
Anonymous
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>>16177390 >yara-ma-ya-woh good god, you guys actually want to include that thing?
Anonymous
>>16177390 So, what happened to the quadruped mammal overabundance issue from a few threads back?
Anonymous
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>>16177327 It looks so damn mellow.
I assume its a tooth fairy? But its a decayed tooth?
Brutty gud/10
Anonymous
>>16177499 The dingo and the thylacine got combined, and now the conflict is between the ghost thylacine and the rock jaw thylacine designs.
Neither are fossils, though, we need more of them.
Paul
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Machop/three fighting mons could be based upon Rugby? More HP, speed, and defense, a little less attack, less special defense?
Anonymous
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>>16177550 >no marsupial giant sloth fossil Anonymous
Toba
>>16177072 reposting in new thread
OK, in all seriousness though, we really need a theme for our game, like the dreaming. This theme will carry over into our designs. Our professor's object of study, and most importantly, our plot.
When I say dreams I mean we could possibly play with "what is reality, what are the limits of reality, what can happen when those limits are removed"
If I were to make the game, me personally, I would probably try something like the Reverse World, only with it bleeding into reality, causing new reactions and changes to the surrounding life. Perhaps rather than having a traditional evil team, I would have 'Dreampeople' who are lost in reality. causing general trouble.
>>16170792 In the end the anomalies probably wont be fixed, and so the people would have to learn to coexist with the 'Dreampeople'
thats how i would do it personally. So the theme would probably want to be...coexistance in this example.
of course, this can all just be bullshit and we can choose something totally different. Throw out suggestions, we can try and build off them and see what sticks you know?
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
can everyone go have another look at the grassland one. I added sax to it.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>16177601 I agree we should talk about theme before we go any further with legendaries and villains.
I like your general direction, but not so much the dreampeople idea. Make it sound more concrete, please.
A legendary representing dreams and the realm of possibilities, and another representing the realm of actuality would work nicely, though. Plus a third legendary based on the realisation/following of ideals. The detached, the pragamtic, the devoted?
Anonymous
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>>16177594 Here's the template if you want to fill it out with your proposals.
>>16177601 Dreamtime definitely seems like the most appropriate thing to go for.
The professor can study pokemon affected by the dreamtime, the game can revolve around people abusing it somehow.
"Dreamtime" can be used to describe the unknown force of nature? And it gets upset and starts to bleed out and go rogue when the villain team/s mess around.
Card
>>16177390 Okay, I just drew up a really rough sketch for the sun part of the trio I keep bringing up.
Basically, it's a giant manta ray that's said to live in the desert and carry the sun across the sky each day.
I was thinking fire/ground.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>16177712 >Barraiya, creator of the first vagina dude
Anonymous
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>>16177869 >Barraiya is a god in Australian aboriginal mythology who created the first vagina with a spear so that Eingana could give birth. Anonymous
Robber spider. Based on a genus of spiders that live in other spiders webs and steal their food. He's got a silk sack.
Toba
>>16177722 >A legendary representing dreams and the realm of possibilities, and another representing the realm of actuality would work nicely I can dig that. I would be against a third main legendary though
>>16177920 oh shit i know you, you drew knifebat! New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 03:41:03 No. 16177965 Report We had a pretty solid trio in mind, the Venom Trio. Seems to be have been forgotten about.
Anonymous
>>16177965 the nature stuff is already being worked on by the sage team.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16177690 Sounds good. Could make a really good route tune in a place that's deep inna-outback. Or maybe a Safari Zone theme.
Anonymous
>>16177965 Nah, this dreamtime thing is a lot better.
I don't want our legendaries to be based off of 'lol spiders australias covered in them'
>>16177954 Having the duality between dreams and reality would be superb, what would represent them?
Would it be a figure from the dreamtime vs an australian icon?
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
>>16178014 Just gotta do 5 more bars of Saxaphone solo before it's good to loop, then I'll start on that.
Anonymous
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>>16178046 Just took at a look at the grassland theme, it's fantastic.
I'm actually not too sold on the saxophone, should be an australian instrument.
Everything before that part is gold.
Anonymous
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>>16177690 Up the bass. Or tone down the sax.
Anonymous
>>16178006 Fuck off with trying to start shit. They're rolling with a bunch of ideas and aren't settled on anything.
Toba
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>>16177965 These sound like they would be great heatran style legendaries rather than moltres style legendaries
DPPT already took Knowledge, Will, and Emotion, is there anything else like that we could do?
>>16178040 Dreams could be the Rainbow Serpent
the ones ive seen in the last thread are a little too close to Ryujibiv in Pokemon Sage, its the wings thats doing it though, I like the cloudy stuff and reality could be...hmmm
Idk, Id say we might want to look into right brain and left brain inspirations, the reality one would be based on...the 'fruit of life' in sacred geometry...maybe...well its not australian so no...
Anonymous
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>>16178139 I'm just saying, it's a thing you should take into account when deciding your theme.
Anonymous
So what do we have?
Anonymous
>>16178139 They're pretty much settled on the nature thing.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 03:51:09 No. 16178178 Report >>16178040 I'm okay with working with a dreamtime idea, but the one suggested doesn't sit well with me.
The venom trio was discussed in depth the first few threads. Since there is a huge number of spiders to work with in Australia, it fits well to have them represented by the trio, and having them be a violent trio is a wonderful contrast to previous trios.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 03:54:32 No. 16178234 Report >>16178170 Looking at their forum, they are definitely not settled on anything. What I can find shows that their evil teams are destroying the land.
This is pretty much exactly the opposite of that, and it was created without even looking at them.
Anonymous
>>16178234 We shouldn't ignore the toes we might be stepping on. If we can avoid it, I'd rather not have anything remotely similar to what Pokemon Sage is doing.
Whether it's pokemon, story, characters - we're at a stage where we can do something unique.
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
I upped the bass on the grassland one and lowered the sax a bit.
Card
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>>16177965 I forgot all about the spiders. Man, I tried to doodle some just now but it's not pokemon flavored at all. Posting anyway.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 04:01:08 No. 16178365 Report >>16178296 By ignoring what they've done entirely (read: stop fucking looking at their stuff) we're not limited on creativity nor are we limited on what is actually relevant to our region. People tried to stop us from using the Rainbow Serpent despite it being a huge part of Australian mythos because they used something with a similar idea.
Fuck that.
Neither of our games are official games, nor are they related in any way. If similarities happen, they happen. We're not basing ideas on each other nor are we stealing ideas.
It's like if someone made any fox fakemon and started shitposting "stolen from gamefreak!11 they have vulpix and fennekin and zorua"
Anonymous
Anonymous
Flower camouflage spider. Hurried the colour.
Anonymous
To continue on the venomous trio idea,because it's great, let's brainstorm the animals. Why have three spiders when you guys have all the most venomous and terrifying shit?
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 04:04:25 No. 16178433 Report >>16178406 I originally wanted one spider, one snake, one (other) - people thought that having three of a similar beast would be preferable since all prior trios have been that way.
Anonymous
>>16178365 Yeah, but that attitude doesn't stimulate creativity either.
Also if it's going that way I can predict that you'll end up with tons of similar shit. Cause Pokemon just happens to have core themes, like nature, that beg for development. If you just base yourself on that and exoticism, what you'll gain in creativity, you'll lose in originality.
Anonymous
>>16178388 These spiders are fantastic. I wish our whole dex was nothing but spiders.
>>16178365 With that attitude, things are going to turn fantastic. Really. I mean it.
I don't mean it. Get your head out of your ass and fight similarity with creativity. People overlap in both threads, and acting like a cunt only alienates people who have genuine concerns about the game.
You can sit and argue, or you can work towards something better.
Anonymous
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16178388 Does the abdomen bloom?
Anonymous
>>16177327 Does anyone like this?
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
>>16178326 I really do need someone to loop these files.
Does anyone have experience with looping midi files?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>16178484 I'm sold on the dreams idea. Dreaming, lucid dreaming, the fantasy of those situations and the possibilities we can come up with - it's fantastic, and unique.
Playing it up against the harsh mistress of reality is good, so we can develop the concept to involve understanding that reality is necessary and dreams are fleeting.
It's a really cool concept.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 04:08:14 No. 16178545 Report >>16178436 >>16178443 Similarity doesn't mean unoriginality, else almost everything here and in gen /vp/ would be considered unoriginal since Gamefreak themselves have made over 700 Pokemon. It's hard to avoid similarity. Instead, try to ignore it and do your own thing.
Jesus, imagine if every single person who ever created a Fakemon showed up and started claiming "too similar to my work!"
That said, I can't find anything in gen /vp/ that is against my plot suggestion. All I can see is that their evil team is destroying the land, and in my suggestion the evil team has a twisted view of how to save the land.
If you wanna call similarities on that, I have to direct you to the similarities to all of the other evil teams that already exist within the Pokemon continuity.
I'm open to other ideas, but gen /vp/ has no affect on what I come up with, since I actively avoid reading their stuff to be able to have full creativity.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 04:09:19 No. 16178573 Report >>16178539 My biggest issue of using dreaming is Black and White's focus on the Dreamworld.
>>16178518 Something needs to be changed about it but I'm not sure what.
Anonymous
>>16178518 I like the concept, but not 100% set on the design.
Anonymous
>>16177550 For fossils maybe look at some of the species found fossilised here? I know we had some pretty cool giant mammals, I'll look up a few species for inspiration if it's worth looking into.
Anonymous
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>>16178545 creativity without unicity is worthless and you know it. keep that in mind, go find the things that make each gen (including the sage one) unique, and avoid doing the same thing.
Anonymous
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>>16178573 >>16178578 Its the eyes and the fact that its a simple line drawing .
Its cool tho, just needs better art.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 04:11:19 No. 16178619 Report >>16178532 That brings up an interesting point... instead of just three spiders, they can be three bugs. That way they're still the same type of creature but can be different enough.
Spider, Australian Honey Bee, Scorpion?
Card
>>16178530 If someone here knows, they would have spoken up. You may be alone on this a while.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16177550 I liked the concept of an Anklyosaurus Pokemon. I think an artist came in and offered to draw it up, but never posted anything after that.
Anonymous
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Had an idea for a Bug/Psychic line
Anonymous
>>16178619 >spider >scorpion >bee None of those are bugs, silly. But they are all anthropods. But that would be a shitty type.
Anonymous
>>16178610 GIANT FUCKING SLOTH NIGGA
BIG AS ROCK/GRASS SLOTH GOLEM LIKE, HELD TOGETHER BY VINES AND MOSS AND SHIT
SLOW AS FUCK, SUPER FUCKING BULKY
GETS SLOW START BUT HAS AN AWESOME SUPPORT SET
PLS
Anonymous
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>>16178545 The issue with similarity is that you've brought nothing of value to the table. This is a region based on Australia, such a diverse country shouldn't be represented with something that can apply to literally any other region.
That's creativity comes into play. If you can't come up with something that isn't a retread of what similar minds have done, then you aren't suitable for the creative decisions behind this project.
There's no need for worthless "this is similar to this" comparisons, because that's far from the point.
Closing your eyes and pretending other things don't exist is detrimental to this 'full creativity' thing you're going on about.
Anonymous
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>>16178433 If all the designs had a similar shape, or size, or pattern of design but different species it would make for a really interesting trio. I was going to say nothing but spiders would be boring, but if we keep making things like
>>16178388 , everything can be arachnid
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16178619 Maybe not a bee. Go for a Potter Wasp. Those things freak me right the fuck out.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 04:14:56 No. 16178695 Report Quoted By:
>>16178666 Whatever they are, they all fit in a similar category. They're not intended to be /Bug type, either. When originally discussed, we wanted all Poison types, thus "The Venom Trio" that you don't find, "They Find YOU."
Anonymous
>>16178640 Then perhaps an anklyosaurus with an opal design?
The tail can be a geode club.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16178677 Sloths aren't native to Australia, though. But the concept could be adapted to a giant Koala.
Card
>>16178694 Why not a Spider Wasp?
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
Anonymous
>>16178710 >>16178719 BULKY SUPPORT AND BULKY ATTACK FOSSILS
ITS DRAW TIME FAGS
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
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>>16178635 Well now I'm currently learning, but it's irritating to say the least.
I'm not even sure if the grassland one will work.
Anonymous
>>16178745 >>16178751 Added to the list! Finally.
I think we need something to compliment the ankylosaur, though. A big mammal wouldn't work design-wise.
A dinosaur oozing tar?
Anonymous
So Dream versus Reality is the most popular theme idea atm?the sides themselves have no value connotated to them ? etc
Anonymous
>>16178719 There is actually a giant sort of rabbit/sloth thing which has been found fossilised in Australia. I'm having trouble finding it's name though.
Heres a few others:
http://www.abc.net.au/science/ozfossil/megafauna/fauna/fauna.htm Toba
>>16178158 This is a great Idea
The Sun and Moon Cycles could be simplified to Source and Reflection
>>16178573 >talks about ignoring similarities >problem with dream idea is similarities I would hardly say that BW was focused on the Dreamworld, it was just a feature that happened to be examined. Given the idea that the Dreamworld itself was only just discovered in BW, would it be too far of a stretch to say that they would continue to study the dreamworld and expand upon it as an idea, especially in a country whos myths and legends rely heavily on this 'dreamtime' world? Im not saying you're wrong, im just saying that the idea has a lot of room to expand upon
Anonymous
>>16178787 >oozing tar doesn't the honey ant ooze honey? We might want to change one of them.
Anonymous
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>>16178847 Or morning, day, and night.
Anonymous
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>>16178827 Indigenous people (not necessarily our indigenous, just vaguely 'native' Nullos people) would be more in-tune with the dreamtime.
People living in the cities focus on reality, lots of quotes about the importance of work. People in the outback are more laid back, and sleepy.
But! It's not so black and white.
Some people in rural towns work harder than anyone else, and complain that such a carefree life only gets you so far.
People in the city feel the opposite, and want to escape. There's good and bad.
>>16178877 That's a good point. We could also combine his counterpart with another mineral, like quartz.
Quartz Cryolophosaurus and Opal Minma?
Anonymous
>>16178741 What about the newly discovered flying scorpion?
Toba
>>16178847 I mean Source and Imitation
>>16178827 Rainbow Serpent is the dreaming,
possibly the fruit of life, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_of_Life is the reality. They are two sides of the same coin. I would like to see a magneton style Gemini Pokemon
Anonymous
>>16178787 Could a large flightless bird work?
Seems it'd be unique enough since the only other large flightless bird pokemon I can think of is Doduo/Dodrio.
base it of pic related maybe.
Anonymous
>>16178958 They're not poisonous.
Anonymous
>>16179009 People don't like when you bring up a moa or other similar large, flightless bird in these threads.
Anonymous
>>16179015 But the idea is terrifying
But no i see my mistake, scratch the idea.
What does everyone like, bee, scorpion, spider?
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
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>>16179009 Yeah, some people have suggested Moa and Emu-based Pokemons in previous threads. Definitely something to keep in mind if you plan on doing some art or further development of concepts.
Anonymous
>>16179039 Those people are shit. I'd love a flightless bird like a moa/cassowary/emu, and it'd be wasteful to see it just be a skarmory evolution.
Anonymous
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>>16179039 It's not all that similar, really. Genyornis was an anseriform, moas were ratites.
Anonymous
>>16178845 SLOTH GRASS/ROCK FOSSIL CONFIRMED
10/10
Anonymous
>>16179052 Wasp
Or ant. Like, a bulldog ant.
Anonymous
>>16179062 Cassowary is an interesting animal too, could easily be some sort of skullbashing monster with it's bony crest.
>>16179039 Are they scared of birds or something?
Anonymous
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>>16178996 >Gemini Pokemon will be hard to execute well, but would also be nice. especially when it looks strong and not like a pixie.
Anonymous
>>16179075 Oh you know, calling it a grass/rock, you've actually convinced me.
That'd be a good stark contrast. An ankylosaur based around mining, and a giant sloth growing a forest on its back.
Cool!
Toba
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>>16179075 I like Sloth Grass/Rock idea, but you're kind of being a douche
Anonymous
>>16179075 ty thought you'd like the page for your glorious sloth lol. I actually live near a swamp where a few of those species were dug up.
Grass/rock is a relatively unused combination too
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 04:35:36 No. 16179158 Report Anonymous
>>16179104 If this guy doesn't get in I'm going to cry.
Anonymous
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>>16179109 It could be a reflection of past vs present as mammals became dominant after they went extinct.
Card
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>>16179158 A honey bee? What, does it have some sort of bee equivalent to self-destruct where it damages and poisons the enemy and faints in the process?
Anonymous
an interesting idea for a tree-based fossil is the wollemi pine http://
news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/03/0305_030305_wollemipine.html it's basically an 120mil yo fossil tree lol
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
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>>16179158 Yeah, deadly to people with allergies. Not that harmful otherwise.
Still think we should go with a wasp. Was thinking Potter Wasp originally, but
>>16178741 convinced me Spider Wasp would probably be better.
Anonymous
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>>16179148 >Decayed tooth pokemon was my idea >it won't get in >hopefully this will Anonymous
>>16179159 The design looks pretty cool, just not sure on those colours personally but well done!
Anonymous
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>>16179214 Oh, the monkey puzzle trees are really neat to look at. That's actually a greater idea! I've written it down.
>>16179235 I didn't draw it, it's from the dropbox. Thanks!
Anonymous
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>>16179158 >Centipedes Ah yiss
All right hear me out, instead of basing the trio on three distinct species let's have each one a combination of two super venomous things.
Centipede/black momba as a start
Card
And while we're all throwing out ideas I think I found out what I based an earlier idea on. A wobbegong, I think. It would evolve into a basking shark.
Sting
Sting
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>>16177954 legendary should be some koala shaman looking thing
Anonymous
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>>16179291 u could do a nidoran thing with a water/dark wobbegong ---> basking shark and water/fairy australian angel shark ----> (s/t idk)
AntiPokemonXY !CYb3Xjpkk.
>honestly giving a shit about this gen /vp/ knockoff
Anonymous
>>16179159 It's a great design, but it should just be a Steel/flying. That thing is bird as fuck.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16179347 Stick that in the New Zealand post-game region, maybe? Could work
Anonymous
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>>16179432 >recognising this prolific troll Damn son, you're about due a new trip.
Anonymous
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>>16179347 Now that's sexy.
Anonymous
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>>16179437 None of the large birds can fly.
Anonymous
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kangaroo island for shaymin reappearance!!!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>16178234 >>16178365 >>16178545 The legendary spirit trio versus the golem trio. Have you even been in-thread for any of the plot discussions? Have you seen the results of any of the plot surveys?
Also
>forum topkek
Adapt to them, don't expect them to adapt to you. You guys aren't even close to any milestone. You aren't even close to being finished the first 100th of the first milestone. Your attitude and thought process is hilarious.
And if your plot is too similar to theirs, you're going to get called out on a ripoff anyway. Make something new. If your plot is too similar to theirs, you are bringing absolutely nothing to the table. All you are claiming is that "bu-but we totally came up with it on our own too!!" Do you think anyone is going to give one single shit? No. No one is going to care about your 'original idea' if the other /vp/ makes a game already has it and you could have taken two clicks and a week to find out what they are going to be doing.
Anonymous
>>16179485 >Post-Post game Papua New Guenai >No routes, one huge forest >Tribesmen pokemon trainers hunting you down >Mew roaming >Secret shaman based legendary >items like megastones here >New Zealand is your Battle Frontier/Mini Region with a subquest Sean(tranquill,Farfetch'd,fletchinder)[5429-8063-7289]
Sean(tranquill,Farfetch'd,fletchinder)[5429-8063-7289] Sat 23 Nov 2013 04:58:13 No. 16179665 Report >>16177072 Hey I looked in your pokemon pastebin and saw only one fossil. would this work as a second if you decide to do the two fossil thing?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalania Anonymous
>>16179437 >cassowary >flying Don't I'm already scared
>>16179543 Your attitude isn't any better, but New York's reaction is a really bad thing to take from these threads.
I agree that a degree of creativity is needed to be even remotely marketable to people that aren't us. Gen /vp/ needs to learn that too, but we're at the stage where it has to be ingrained in our heads.
We should put arguments on a standstill and get to completing stuff, though. We've got the makings of a fantastic team.
The music guy is excellent, the map bros are great and we've got some good drawfags here and there.
If we're looking for approval, we should take opinions from the people actually doing work.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16179628 Are we doing mega-evolutions? I don't think we're doing mega-evolutions, though I might be wrong.
I know we're including Fairy types, either way.
Anonymous
>>16179686 consensus seemed to be a no to megas
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
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>>16179754 Alright then, thanks for reminding me.
Anonymous
>>16179667 I have no idea what point you're trying to make.
All I am saying is that you are not going to get a group that is almost done planning their game to change theirs, and you certainly don't want the same plot. You guys aren't near done anything, so you are the ones who are going to have to adapt. NY seems to not care if you copy/have the same plot, which is ridiculous.
Anonymous
>>16179665 People keep asking for that but I just don't see the draw of it.
Anonymous
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>>16179667 We have one good drawfag.
Anonymous
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>>16180015 NY doesn't care for folks who think that the plot being similar to an unrelated project is a matter worth putting the project at risk for.
It won't be identical, it probably wont even be too similar. It would take literal copypasta to be similar.
Anonymous
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Is the Sloth fossil noted somewhere?
Sean(tranquill,Farfetch'd,fletchinder)[5429-8063-7289]
Sean(tranquill,Farfetch'd,fletchinder)[5429-8063-7289] Sat 23 Nov 2013 05:18:03 No. 16180127 Report >>16180017 I think it is a good contrast for the mammal fossil. there is also a land alligator thing.
A ground sloth would be good too.
Anonymous
>>16180127 If we're going to do a land alligator we'd best go all in and make ourselves a deinosuchus
Anonymous
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>>16180015 No, I agree completely. I'm just saying your attitude was kinda iffy.
NY is a single person amongst several who tripfags because he made the thread where this started. Not as fake game proposal, something unrelated.
It's ridiculous to listen to someone who genuinely thinks a battery with a face is a good idea but a story about our indigenous culture isn't.
Sean(tranquill,Farfetch'd,fletchinder)[5429-8063-7289]
Sean(tranquill,Farfetch'd,fletchinder)[5429-8063-7289] Sat 23 Nov 2013 05:24:41 No. 16180313 Report Quoted By:
Anonymous
>>16178486 That was my intention.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
Anonymous
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>>16179159 Can I bring a glass over to your house? I don't feel like licking your tears off of your face.
>>16179432 You are the epitome of faggot
>>16180377 Shiiiiiiiiiit
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
Is anyone here a quick learner?
Anonymous
>>16180377 what a cutie patootie
someone come up with a 3-stage inanimate pokemon so i can fill more lists
Anonymous
>>16180564 If we're using rpg maker, it loops automatically I'm pretty sure.
Anonymous
Idea for a drop bear I quickly made in Paint. It also has a few sugar glider elements in there. It would learn moves like Sucker punch, Bounce, and Acrobatics. Thoughts?
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16180604 Yeah, but he doesn't want to loop the entirety of the tune. He wants to have a set of intro bars, then loop the main melody afterwards.
Anonymous
>>16180611 verison without tail
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
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>>16180604 but the tracks I have need to loop from a certain point. Take a look at my grassland theme, you can see it needs to loop from 7, not bar 1.
Anonymous
>>16180584 What's a good inanimate object-pokemon for Australia? A can of beer that evolves into a 4-pack, then evolves into crippling alcoholism?
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16180628 >>16180604 Unless, of course, RPG Maker can do that automatically. Which would be neat.
>>16180611 A Dark/Flying dropbear may have potential. Do we have other Dropbear Pokemons at this time? I think someone mentioned a Koala Pokemon, and I think another guy mentioned a one-eyed Dropbear...
Anonymous
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>>16180377 It's getting Okami in here again
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
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>>16180681 >Unless, of course, RPG Maker can do that automatically. Which would be neat. rpg maker can't tell where to loop from. Looping is something that needs to be done in the midi file.
Anonymous
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>>16180677 No, thats germany and Ireland's signature pokemon dude
Anonymous
>>16180611 >>16180634 Honestly dropbears are pretty much just evil koalas. I think we should take some inspiration from the nandibear, and although it's Africa, Australia and Africa both have niggers so it's virtually the same thing.
Doom | 5472-7530-7914 | (Fighting) Mankey, Sawk, Riolu.
Doom | 5472-7530-7914 | (Fighting) Mankey, Sawk, Riolu. Sat 23 Nov 2013 05:52:20 No. 16180917 Report Quoted By:
It would be interesting if the generic 3 stage evolution bug pokemon ( Eg, Caterpie, Metapod, Butterfree ) for this was a maggot / fly pokemon.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
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>>16180778 An interesting point.
Looking at the Pokedex template at
>>16177390 , I've noticed that there's one slot for a Dropbear, and one for a Koala.
What if we made a Pokemon whose first stage was a more traditional interpretation of a Koala or Dropbear, and made its second stage less like a Koala and more like a true bear or monster-bear (but with some Koala-esque features retained)?
Anonymous
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>>16180778 >Australia and Africa both have niggers, so it's virtually the same thing I can't disagree with that. Wow, the Nandi bear and Drop bear have quite a lot in common, actually.
Anonymous
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>>16180778 I was thinking that because they drop on top of you, they should be able to fly to reach you. Here's a version without wings and different eyes, but I think the flying type suits it as with the wings.
Anonymous
Yoo I'm drunk sad angry and a drawfag, so I'll be getting stuff done tonight
Anonymous
>>16181019 A drop bear koala that draws some inspiration from a nandi bear
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16181019 Please take a crack at drawing the fossilmons mentioned in this thread. That is, an opalescent Anklyosaurus Pokemon, and/or a giant ground sloth/rabbit/thing with a forest growing on its back.
Anonymous
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>>16181083 Oh that sounds fun
>>16181051 A good artist drew a good drop bear, but I can try too if you want, that'll just come a bit later
Doom | 5472-7530-7914 | (Fighting) Mankey, Sawk, Riolu.
Doom | 5472-7530-7914 | (Fighting) Mankey, Sawk, Riolu. Sat 23 Nov 2013 06:07:45 No. 16181224 Report Quoted By:
>>16180677 Carnivorous Meat pie.
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
My question (
>>16180564 ) was never answered. Can anyone learn to loop midi tracks?
Music is vital in order to make the game great, so this will be as important as any other job.
Anonymous
>>16181246 I'm not too experienced with different files. But if I make an account on that site your using, will it let me make music?
Anonymous
>>16181246 Can't help you much mate, most I can do for you is try and google it.
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
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>>16181284 Yes but you will only get the basic package. If you want the same quality I have then you have to pay.
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
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>>16181331 If you think you understand it, I could email you some small midi files for you to play around with and if you think you've got the hang of it I could send you one of the proper tracks.
Bigro(mapfag) !tlS44ctSZo
Tileset update for anyone that cares (I'm making one) Just the basic terrains, this is one of two tilesets I'm making for the outside and routes (Northewest and Southeast are too drastically different to work off the same one IMO)
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
http://www.noteflight.com/profile/ffe3eb990819674d03a25bdabb4127daebf68ec5 Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ Sat 23 Nov 2013 06:38:06 No. 16181843 Report Just started a new theme (elite 4)
Anonymous
Possible flying type? They seem to be all over the place. Along with those white cockatoos...
Anonymous
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>>16181835 Looks cute, though I can't say for sure without seeing it in-game
Anonymous
Also, I'm drawfagging. What should I take on?
Anonymous
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>>16181835 It'd be really great if you could take some inspiration from firered and leafgreen. I loved their palettes.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16181906 Well, we still do need a colourful Bird Pokemon, according to our template thingy. Though I think Flying/Normal would be best. Plain, yes, but there have to be -some- Normal types. It could have some kind signature attack to make up for the lack of unusual typing, perhaps.
Anonymous
>>16181843 These are really good, but the program your using seems pretty primitive.
Have you tried sibellius? These instruments aren't as good as the scores they're playing.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
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>>16181835 These look pretty good so far.
Anonymous
>>16181843 Great for the elite 4, but I'm not really digging the .. shit, I want to say allegro, but I've forgotten my music theory.. the part where it goes back up..in the second stanza...
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16181843 I cant access the music for some reason. I could load them up before, but not now. I can't look at your gallery of musics in your profile either.
Anonymous
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
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>>16182031 Wait, nevermind. Chrome's just being a dick. I can load it up in IE just fine.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16181936 Well, that other guy is drawing up the Fossilmons. So, want to have a go at drawing a Koalamon that evolves into a hybrid between a Dropbear and a Nandi-bear?
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
>>16181965 Well noteflight's always worked for me, so I don't think I'll change.
Anonymous
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>>16182075 Aw, but I already drew a koala.
Anonymous
>>16182028 >>16181843 Arpeggio, I think I might mean to say.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 06:51:14 No. 16182103 Report Quoted By:
>>16181835 I'm liking them so far, a lot.
>>16181843 This is good so far as well.
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
Anonymous
>>16182095 Are there plugins for better instruments?
Anonymous
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Too many animals:
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
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>>16182152 You can record using your own instruments but other than that, the instruments they give you are the ones you've got
I think .
But they update all the time. A couple of days ago they added 5 new types of drums.
Anonymous
>>16182146 Cool, but you don't have to change it every time I say. But I appreciate it.
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
>>16182340 Oh, I also thought it was pretty crap.
If multiple people think it's bad I change it.
Anonymous
>>16182423 Should we use trumpets on our water routes?
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
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>>16182506 actually that wouldn't be a bad idea for an easteregg
Anonymous
Making boomerang pokemon is some shit I tell ya what
Anonymous
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>>16182698 It's like a sword made out of wood.
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
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>>16182698 flying fighting?
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>16182698 Throwing Stick -> Boomerang -> Triwing Boomerang would be better.
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
Should I go for a standard Pokemon center theme or should I have a Jazzy one? (I really want to try a jazzy one)
Anonymous
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>>16182857 Dude it's your call. Make it, and we'll judge it.
Anonymous
>>16181952 Alright, haven't got my tablet with me so I did this on good 'ol pen and paper, but how would this be for the early game bird (sort of pidgey line equivalent) I'm thinking this would be more like the middle form.
Sorry for my shitty camera too.
Card
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>>16182857 I'd also like to point out that if you take the first route music you made (not the grassland) and slow the tempo to about half, it kind of sounds like something off of Sesame Street.
Anyway, what all do we know about the cities? Do we have any sort of theme going, or know which city is our hub, tourist trap, centered on ancient lore, that sort of thing?
Anonymous
reposting this from a thread yesterday coz not sure if someone has done it yet
Anonymous
I wanted to make a flying fish pokémon and all I could think about was kites. Could be Water/Fairy with levitate or some shit like that
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
Pokemon centre theme is up.
Anonymous
>>16183166 There just doesn't seem to be anything unique to it. It's a pink slug. What else? Because it's pink it will make a good fairy? It needs a narrative. What does this pink slug do? What does it become? Answer these and you'll have your pink slug.
Card
>>16183229 Try it with a Tenor Sax?
Anonymous
>>16183241 Well it eats algae and bathroom mold but that's it. It's just an ordinary slug.
I'm sure something creative could be made out of it. Poison/Fire?
Bigro(mapfag) !tlS44ctSZo
>>16183199 What a great opportunity for an urban pokemon.
ghost/flying, High speed and HP.
"this pokemon is formed when a child lets go of its kite on a particularly windy day. It roams the skies and makes sure that no ill spirits follow the child that lost them."
Give an ability that automatically sets up tailwind and you have a top tier pokemon.
Anonymous
What happened to that haunted tractor
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
>>16183294 how does it sound?
Anonymous
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>>16183311 We've got a fire slug. But I wonder if we can combine it with this thing?
Anonymous
Card
>>16183340 Jazzier, I thought. It would help to get someone else's opinion, though.
Bigro(mapfag) !tlS44ctSZo
>>16183332 I never expanded on it (I drew it btw). Here we go:
Ghost/steel OR steel/fairy.
"This pokemon attaches itself to retired farming equipment. It likes to cause trouble for farmers and ruin their crops."
High attack, defence and HP. Abysmal speed and special attack.
Card
>>16183384 That green thing is cute, what's it for?
Scott 0018-0882-2679
Maybe a poison snail type? Y'all Aussies have a sea dwelling snail that can kill people with oen sting.
Anonymous
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>>16183324 I actually like your concept more than mine for this design! It's a really good idea.
Anonymous
>>16183398 Looks ridiculous. Needs to be a bit minimal.
Tro !CaeG7wdLJI
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I got an idea for a Cave Painting-themed Pokemon. It could be a ghost Pokemon that wanders deserts. "It is said to be the spirit of a person who died while lost in the desert. It endlessly cries into its own hands, and uses its purewater tears to rehydrate those who are lost so that they do not have the same fate."
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
>>16183390 I just changed the scale I was using. I think it sounds way jazzier now but I need some opinions.
Anonymous
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>>16183241 ok so some random shit about it, leaves small arc shaped patterns on eucalyptus when it feeds which could be used if we have a eucalyptus mon or perhaps even a koala
if you go with a normal red triangle slug the triangle is located around its breathing pore.
the body colour of these slugs vary from a green, cream, orange, yellow or red/pink which could mean different terrain=different colour.
The reason for the bright colouring on this animal is presumably employed as a warning to predators (the Blue-tongue lizard and other mollusc eating animals) that it is unpleasant to taste or poisonous.
Anonymous
>>16183398 What if it was the soul of a Pokemon who was runned over by the tractor
Anonymous
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I hope you will find suitable place for him
Bigro(mapfag) !tlS44ctSZo
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>>16183484 That could work too.
>>16183430 It's literally a stump jump plough. I'm just terrible at making things look simple. I could try I guess, remove lines and make it solid colour to try and make it less busy.
I'll give it a shot.
It was suggested when I showed this the first time that it could be a good 'blockade' pokemon (like snorlax)
Card
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>>16183413 >>16183311 You're in luck, the shell is even similar in color.
>>16183447 Something about the odd numbered stanzas (you need to tell me what the term is if I have that wrong) is off. It may be too flat, or I don't know. Of course, that is the style of jazz in a lot of cases, so I don't know.
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Here are all of my ideas
You need a normal type Blue Heeler (Aussie Cattle Dog)
Sea Wasps (Box Jellyfish) have four primitive eyes and are quite cunning for creatures without a brain (maybe Poison/Psychic) and people wear pantyhose to prevent from being stung (maybe have a pantyhose item that makes the wearer immune to Jellyfish Poison)
If you're going to have a venom trio...
Poison/Dark Funnelweb Spider
Poison/Dragon Taipan
Poison/Water Blue Ringed Octopus
And if you're going to have a spider trio
Bug/Fairy Jumping Spider
Bug/Dark Funnelweb
Pure Bug Huntsman Spider
One of the fossils has to be a Muttaburasaurus (it's the most iconic Dinosaur of the Great Southern Land)
A Fairywren that evolves into An Emu-Wren inside an Emu made of pink energy and the Emu has large wings
A Honey Possum sitting on a Banksia Flower that evolves into A Honey Possum sitting on a Banksia seedpod with arms and legs
The common bug needs to be a Mozzie
If you're going to have a Rainbow Snake pokemon, it needs to have the ability to transform humans in pokemon
A Marsupial Mole pokemon
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/7786937/Australia_s_Dangerous_Creatures.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrocnide_excelsa Anonymous
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Pokeballs and all other should cost 50% more so it holds true to the Austrian spirit.
truteal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mkidP2OUCk A part of the soundtrack needs to be inspired by this
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
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>>16183646 That's easter egg tier, not really for the soundtrack.
Anonymous
heres one of my ideas,
truteal
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Here's another idea
Anonymous
>>16183412 The pseudo bug/dragon caterpillar.
Anonymous
>>16183729 fuck you Sceptile has been done already
Anonymous
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>>16183384 >>16182698 I would imagine the sprite to be constantly spinning, perhaps it needs to be a bit simpler?
Also, it needs to get U-turn, and some ability that benefits from constantly switching.
Anonymous
>>16183767 this could also be mixed with that concept, its a tailed emperor caterpillar and is found in Australia, looks sort of like a dragon
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>16183841 Haha, yeah, thats what it was based off of. I worked on memory though, so I can adjust it so it'd be similar.
What would it evolve into? Larvitar's line deals with that kinda metamorphosis and flygon's taken the direct influence.
Gotta be something unique - maybe a triceratops-like bug/dragon with levitate?
Anonymous
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>>16183790 it could be completely different to sceptile, its colour could mean rock or ground type with grass, also detaching its tail to confuse predators could also be a cool concept worked into it with maybe for n evolution its holding past tails or something
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16183075 Looks good to me. Really looks like something you'd expect to turn up in the early routes of a Pokemon game
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 08:38:08 No. 16183929 Report So... I wanted to try spriting some more. Shading isn't done, but I sprited one of my favorite suggestions from this project so far.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 08:39:15 No. 16183944 Report Card
>>16183166 It's something.
Anonymous
>>16183886 well it could stay as a caterpillar and just get more badass, perhaps it starts out as an egg(pic related) then becomes a young larva then a sick caterpillar which with no proper limbs would look completely different to both those lines
Anonymous
>>16183944 The orb isn't illuminated, I'm sure you were already going to do that. Also the eye spot is just a touch too far to the left.
Anonymous
>>16183986 Hell yeah, that sounds rad. I'll get on it as soon as possible, and probably collect more ideas too.
>>16183978 I doodled this from the same concept, we can try combining the ideas?
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 08:44:05 No. 16184009 Report >>16184003 I had trouble with the spot on the head, but I'll keep at it. I haven't touched the orb yet, trying to figure out the best way to do that.
Anonymous
>>16183922 cool, I'll hunt down my tablet and get a nice clean version done.
Anonymous
>>16183886 >>16183986 I know we had a discussion earlier about gen/vp/ but could we just try something other than a bug/dragon to be our pseudo?
Anonymous
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>>16183978 really like the 1st stage!, also thought it would be cool if the faking poison could somewhere be put into it not sure how though but thanks for drawing up a concept I like it
dlonzo 3840-6550-1675 (Woobat, Farfetch'd, Hawlucha)
dlonzo 3840-6550-1675 (Woobat, Farfetch'd, Hawlucha) Sat 23 Nov 2013 08:45:59 No. 16184034 Report Quoted By:
>>16177712 Rainbow Serpent or bust.
Anonymous
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>>16184014 Do they have one too? Hm.
My favourite suggestion has always been the grass/dragon levitating wobbegong.
Giving a shark a dragon typing is my fetish, so we can work with that?
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 08:46:02 No. 16184036 Report >>16184014 Is anyone opposed to using Star's Dragon-Lizard for the pseudo?
I really like this thing.
Anonymous
>>16184036 The art is nice, but it both doesn't look like a pokemon and isn't related to Australia.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 08:49:01 No. 16184065 Report Quoted By:
>>16184036 In fact, I kinda wanna build on this. We've talked about a "Dream Stone" and how certain Pokemon are connected to it.
We've had Pokemon hold onto objects as a part of who they are - Farfetch'd carries a leek, Happiny carries a rock, Spoink carries a pearl... perhaps this Pokemon could have a Dream Stone himself. We've never had a Pokemon have an attachment to an important item before, I think it'd be interesting
dlonzo 3840-6550-1675 (Woobat, Farfetch'd, Hawlucha)
dlonzo 3840-6550-1675 (Woobat, Farfetch'd, Hawlucha) Sat 23 Nov 2013 08:49:08 No. 16184067 Report Quoted By:
>>16177965 One of the spiders could be non-venomous and based on the Huntsman?
Toba
>>16184044 not everything HAS to be related to australia
Is Cofagirus related to New York?
Card
>>16184009 I would suggest making it a bit of a gradient; put a tinge of the darkest you want the orb to be on one of the lower sides, and a much lighter, almost white tinge on the exact opposite. The trick is making a believable blend with the limited palette. When you've done that, put a low opacity layer over the whole thing and color it in with a base, purple in this case.
I think that could work.
>>16184008 We sure can.
Anonymous
>>16184070 New York's full of fags..
Anonymous
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>>16177072 So what was the reasoning behind Adelaide being Poison and Brisbane being Psychic? Personally I'd swap them around. Our greatest lunatics and serial killers are South Australian and Queensland is full of drugs.
Toba
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>>16184084 but not sarcofagi
Anonymous
>>16184070 No, but the amount of "french" and "american" pokemon in the last two generations are miniscule compared to what we're trying to do.
If we wanted to go in that direction, we'd change the map, the professor, everything.
We have 100 pokemon, and our selling point is that it's based on Australia. If the pokemon aren't australian, what do we have left?
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 08:53:04 No. 16184113 Report >>16184044 This is one of the best "pokemon style" designs we've had, are you insane?
As for being unrelated to Australia, it depends on how he defines it. It could be a Pokemon version of Komodo Dragon, with extra things added for flair like everything else.
Or it could be a non-Australian animal, since, you know, Lions aren't from France and Polar Bears aren't in the United States.
dlonzo 3840-6550-1675 (Woobat, Farfetch'd, Hawlucha)
dlonzo 3840-6550-1675 (Woobat, Farfetch'd, Hawlucha) Sat 23 Nov 2013 08:53:27 No. 16184117 Report Quoted By:
>>16181952 Colourful bird should be a 28 that evolves into a peacock/10
Anonymous
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>>16184084 just like ur mum
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 08:54:30 No. 16184133 Report >>16184112 We can increase the number if we have to, and I feel like we need to have a few exceptions, since every region has examples of it.
Anonymous
>>16177601 I think the theme should be
moving forward Anonymous
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>>16179437 >not steel/fighting with a lot of flying moves New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 08:56:30 No. 16184157 Report Quoted By:
>>16184074 Fortunately, thanks to RPGMaker, we're not super limited on Palette. But I am trying to be realistic on amount of colors.
Going back to work, would love more input.
Anonymous
>>16184113 Again, that's a terrible argument to use. You're using a strawman to defend a design without reflecting on the fact that you've saturated the place with references. Professor Acacia, wandering Ned Kelly - make a decision.
Do you stick with the theme, or do you stick with the pokemon formula?
Don't be offended, but that design is both unappealing and unrelated. Your attachment to it is a facet of your unwillingness to consider other options.
Card
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>>16184133 Exactly. We don't need to limit ourselves to only 100 pokemon. However, that's not to say go wild and add everything someone wants. Balance is what we want to achieve.
Anonymous
>>16184143 Even if you're a troll, we should do this anyway.
You can dream all you want, but in the end you're still moving forward. You can stress about reality, but you have no choice but to move forward.
>>16184074 heck yeah
Anonymous
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>>16184162 Eh? It's a chameleon, while not Australian it fits the theme.
Don't be pedantic.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 09:00:50 No. 16184220 Report >>16184162 I haven't seen a consensus on the Ned Kelly thing, but the Acacia is not only a reference but fits the Pokemon formula.
I fully disagree on the quality of the art and design. I think it looks fantastic. The third stage could use some work, but the first two stages are great and they definitely fit within a Pokemon world.
As for related to Australia, again, it depends on what animal it's related to. Star only needs to make a few minor tweaks to make it fit really any lizard he wants (he originally designed it to be a chameleon but on the forums spoke of moving some things around and adjusting it to make it fit the theme better.)
Anonymous
>>16184044 >>16184113 So make its tongue blue. Shit that was hard.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 09:02:33 No. 16184243 Report Quoted By:
>>16184233 Someone give this man a medal.
Card
>>16184036 Is there any reason it gains a primary dragon type?
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 09:04:46 No. 16184273 Report Quoted By:
>>16184258 That was just an error on the artist's part. Flip them and it's fine.
Anonymous
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Grass/Ground Potoroo based off Flowerpots+Potoroos for Pikaclone (fuck electric type) pls
Anonymous
>>16184220 This isn't an argument on the quality of the art. They clearly have some talent, just not in designing legit-looking pokemon. Don't make this a repeat of Gen /vp/ where people just voted for 'what looked nice'.
You've missed the point entirely. Acacia is a reference, and therefore does not fit the pokemon formula. None of the professors are based on famous icons.
If you're going to make adjustments here and there just to shove it in and call it 'acceptable to the masses' then you've failed as a designer.
Anonymous
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>>16177601 >>16184143 >>16184184 Okay, get this:
The theme is 'moving forward'.
There will be Pokémon based on native animals that tend more towards JGB/JGS when they evolve, and introduced species that undergo wilder changes. Kind of like X vs. Y megas.
The professor is studying the region itself, and how the ecosystem has been changing recently. The leader of the evil team has the government in his/her pocket and has been undermining the professor's research by cutting off her funding, claiming that climate change is a lie.
This also provides a great excuse for you to fill the Dex for her; she can't afford an assistant anymore.
The region has a dark history of Pokémon cruelty that they have only recently begun to acknowledge.
The lesson we learn is that we shouldn't deny what happened in the past, but we should also accept reality and move forward, making ourselves better people as we look to the future, instead of being stuck in the Dreamtime.
Anonymous
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the ball dragon looks like shit and there are better ideas can we move on
dlonzo 3840-6550-1675 (Woobat, Farfetch'd, Hawlucha)
dlonzo 3840-6550-1675 (Woobat, Farfetch'd, Hawlucha) Sat 23 Nov 2013 09:09:40 No. 16184334 Report Quoted By:
The bandicoot Pokemon needs to learn rapid spin and body slam.
Anonymous
Ok so im not sure if anyone saw this as when i posted it i wasnt able to stay on the computer for long
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 09:10:56 No. 16184348 Report >>16184286 And again, I disagree. It looks like a legit Pokemon to me. And that entire idea is especially broad especially when you compare Pokemon across generations.
No professor may be based on a famous icon, but we shaped her into the Pokemon mold. Tree based name? Check. Studying a specific area of Pokemon? Check. Guides the trainer? Check.
There's really nothing more to professors than that, other than Sycamore actively interacting with the bad guys.
Anonymous
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>>16183199 perhaps a pre evo to the flying fish could be a leaping blenny, They get their names from their ability to jump from place to place, outside of water.
dlonzo 3840-6550-1675 (Woobat, Farfetch'd, Hawlucha)
dlonzo 3840-6550-1675 (Woobat, Farfetch'd, Hawlucha) Sat 23 Nov 2013 09:13:18 No. 16184380 Report Quoted By:
>>16184348 Yeah but Sycamore was an 11/10 dickhead and probably the worst Professor in Pokemon.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16184162 I was talking to the original designer of that Pokemon earlier.
I pointed out to him that chameleons were not native to Australia (he originally thought they were).
After pointing this out, he agreed to try to make it look less like a Chameleon and more like an Australian dragon-lizard of some sort. This should be acceptable, no?
Anonymous
>>16184341 You're probably the only one with a valid opinion on our dreamtime nonsense, please stick around.
The idea for the trio is really nice too!
>>16184348 Dude, I like the design, but it doesn't look like a pokemon regardless of how many times you close your ears and disagree.
This is really exhausting hearing you repeat yourself, please stop starting arguments with people who don't share your opinion.
Anonymous
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>>16184386 I have no qualms with the decisions of the designer and if he wants to submit something appropriate then he's free to do so.
My beef is with the faggot who won't stop shitting himself when no one listens to him.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 09:16:15 No. 16184447 Report >>16184417 I didn't start the argument, and so far you're the only one who doesn't think it looks like a Pokemon. In fact, when it was posted originally, people shit themselves.
Anonymous
>>16184447 You asked for opinions, I gave you mine, you called me insane and I told you specifically why it wasn't a good idea. Ignoring constructive criticism is a very poor thing to do so early into development.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 09:23:59 No. 16184556 Report >>16184074 It doesn't fit Pokemon color standards, but I kinda like how it looks. I'll recolor it to make it look right eventually, but for now:
First I did just a standard gradient, then I did it again and made it look more like "dreams" or clouds were floating around inside it. Dot isn't on the head because I wasn't satisfied with it and I'll go back to that.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 09:26:52 No. 16184590 Report Quoted By:
>>16184554 The insane thing wasn't mean to be taken as a hardcore insult, that was just me stating my opinion. Sorry if that offended you. I made my counter point as to why it was a good idea and you've called me a faggot and said my arguments didn't hold water.
I do fully disagree with you, I think (in at least the first two stages) it looks completely like a Pokemon. I'd even compare the first stage to Munna. That's really all I have to say on it. Agree to disagree.
Card
>>16184556 Coming along well. Now add a reflection or two.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 09:28:43 No. 16184610 Report >>16184594 His back is bothering me. I need to fix that. Which do you prefer, standard or cloudy
Sion2619 !H7ZJGz53MQ
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Going to do some hard out work with the music. I'll return next thread.
Anonymous
Card
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>>16184610 Sorry, didn't catch that. The right looks better.
Anonymous
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Is gen /vp/ an actual playable game? I desire to play it.
Anonymous
>>16184689 The wings should be pure white and the crest needs to be more prominent.
Anonymous
>>16184008 I also have some ideas for some water pokemon if your interested,
1.jellynose fish (pic related)
2.a frogfish, non-streamlined body is scaleless and bare, often covered with bumpy, bifurcated spinules. they have a little worm looking thing that acts as bait from its head, there fins are used more like feet to walk along the seafloor and resemble feet as well
3. archer fish, wich shoots water from its at insects with near perfect accuracy
4.fanfin seadevil, it was said earlier that gen vp had done an angler fish so I thought this could be better for us, it is a dark brown to black colour so possibly dark/water type
Card
I was looking through the dropbox and felt like working on the boarbq.
Anonymous
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>>16184777 really like this good work !!
Anonymous
>>16184717 well keeping in mind I was figuring since it was an early game bird that it'd be 3 stages with this being the second.
Anonymous
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read this and thought it would be good for a legendary mon. Adnoartina is known as the lizard guard of Uluru, or Ayers Rock. The aboriginal peoples of Australia living around Uluru tell numerous legends about Adnoartina and other lizards that emerge from the rock.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 09:57:15 No. 16184929 Report I can't get the damn dot on the head right.
Card
>>16184929 I think the problem is it's too blank. You've got all this going on down at the bottom, light, shadow, smoke, but at the top, nothing. It's just solid grey. Break up the monotony.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 10:03:16 No. 16184985 Report >>16184970 I'm going on the artwork, I'm not sure what to add ;_;
Anonymous
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>>16184721 that looks a lot like an eel tailed fish (i know its not tho)
check out the design that i made up for the eel tailed catfish
>>16184341 Card
>>16184985 Come to think of it, is the design even finalized?
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 10:06:13 No. 16185022 Report Quoted By:
>>16184970 I should have drawn it on an angle like this (all i did was rotate here and it looks like crap) - It looks better on an angle.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 10:07:15 No. 16185033 Report >>16185014 No. I'm spriting it because I like it and I have nothing else to do right now.
Anonymous
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>>16184721 Remoraid is partly based on an archer fish.
And a fanfin seadevil IS an angler.
Card
>>16185033 That's what I thought. It's dead hours, there's not much else to do.
It does look better at an angle, but something about the design just doesn't seem to be translating well.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16184777 Looks bretty gud.
>>16184717 >>16184809 Maybe just make the crest a little taller?
Wait, this is just a bit of a flippant idea, but it might be worth considering. What if you went with a punk/mohawk motif for the design of the evolutionary chain? Like, have a short, squarish mohawk-like crest for the base form, a fluffy, bigger mohawk-crest (like what you have now, but just a bit taller and fluffier) for the second form, and a super-huge spiky mohawk-crest for the final form?
This probably isn't the greatest idea, but it seems Pokemon-ish to me.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16185033 Here's a thing that the Pokemon's designer said to me earlier about changing the design:
>Dragon Lizards look indeed kind of like my design. >Probably relocating some of the spikes from he back of the head around the head will do the trick. So yeah. Try relocating the spines to around the back and sides of the head. Think about a dragon-lizard, like pic related. Could this work?
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 10:20:06 No. 16185168 Report >>16185065 >>16185119 Added these to the back and slimmed out it's body a bit.
Fills in the space better?
Card
>>16185168 I gotta be honest, slimming it down did not work. Of course, you still have a lot of room for the sprite. Why don't you try adding the dorsal fin thing to the fullbody sprite?
Anonymous
>>16185168 So, is this the sprite?
How would it look on the platform, is it floating?
Anonymous
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>>16185066 That's pretty much what I was planning to do
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 10:30:27 No. 16185285 Report >>16185267 I think it didn't work because the head was still disproportionate. Could be wrong, but that's what I noticed. Before you commented, I tried one more adjustment.
Card
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>>16185285 You may be right about that. The head looks much better when it's not oversized.
Card
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>>16185275 I would assume. Just like mangnemite.
Anonymous
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has the bat mon been done yet coz I was thinking that an orange leaf nosed bat would cool and unique bat being fire/???
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
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>>16185275 Well, it is a Psychic type, so it floating wouldn't be too much of a stretch.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 10:38:31 No. 16185420 Report >>16185275 Yeah, I'd imagine it would be floating.
Fattened it back up a little and made some more minor adjustments.
I think I like it.
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 10:41:14 No. 16185452 Report >>16185420 Last change for now, I'm tired.
Also idk why I've been saving it in jpg
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 10:51:42 No. 16185595 Report >>16185452 >shading herp, that's what it was missing
Anonymous
Holy shit, don't save sprites as jpegs
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 11:00:43 No. 16185739 Report Quoted By:
>>16185713 I checked my files, I wasn't saving them as jpg. For some reason they get converted when I post them. The only ones that don't are the ones with transparency.
Card
Redrew it and added some color.
Card
>>16185822 And we can call the little one Piglit!
Star !kZaMIS0I1k
>>16185595 it ... is beautiful
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 11:24:14 No. 16185971 Report >>16185900 That's what I wanted Tepig to be named D:
That said, Boarbecue is really close to the Emboar line.
>>16185902 Redraw your art to match? :D
Star !kZaMIS0I1k
Oh yeah will post some Pokemon designs later today.
IanMelbourne93 (Dropbox)
Dropbox is done to here, I may have missed a few from the last thread though, does anyone know if it got archived?
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E
New York - 1590-5145-3499 {3190} !LPt6reZR0E Sat 23 Nov 2013 11:25:48 No. 16186000 Report >>16185980 If you can, try to include the dot-painting inspiration as much as possible. I really think it'll look amazing.
>>16186000 opinions on design?
tried to make it more than a plain snake and added some rainbow to it. Colours can be changed
Star !kZaMIS0I1k
>>16186000 By the way i have no idea for names for that lizard evolution line. I an not very witty with namings so i thought i will leave this to the others on here.
Anonymous
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>>16186252 i think your right that it needs colour but nt like that
look at some pictures of the aborignal dream time story of the rainbow serpant
Foxy !QqL8nX9URE
>>16185971 New York, your spriting is absolutely beautiful! Can't wait to see how the evolutions for it turn out!
Question: So far, what Pokemon (apart from Star's pseudo dragon-lizard line), would you say are confirmed for being in the PokeAus Pokedex?
Anonymous
New Yorker from phone
>>16186337 So far not even that is confirmed. I just did it because I liked it. If everyone else likes it, I suppose we can confirm it. The only thing we've 100% agreed on is a rainbow serpent
Anonymous
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>>16186252 i changed your pic alittle to bring in a greater sence of Energy and with the enrgy being dots it takes on a bit of the dot painting style
the idea that it lets its Energy flow around and outside its body to share it with the world
while maintaining a type of order over the worlds energy
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>16186262 >>16186672 Scrynk > Precoguana > Tuataura
Foxy !QqL8nX9URE
>>16186724 Sounds pretty good. What are they originating from?
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
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>>16186764 Precoguana seems like an amalgamation of "Precognition" and "Iguana", which seems pretty cool. Can't figure out the other two, though.
Anonymous
>>16186764 'scry' + 'skink'
'precognition' + 'iguana'
'aura' + 'tuatara'
Anonymous
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>>16186724 Precumguana? I'll get my dick ready.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
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>>16185994 Ian, if you're still there, something important which needs to be addressed.
A number of Pokemon in the Pokemon Design folder are directly lifted from Gen/vp/. They're starting to accuse us of stealing. Could you please either delete those mons, or move those mons from Pokemon Design to Inspiration, since those monsters are being used not as actual ideas or suggestions, but rather as references for concepts? That would be great.
A rough list of the mons which have raised ire can be found here, in this archived thread:
https://archive.foolz.us/vp/thread/16162643/ Just ctrl+F "gilla monster". Thanks.
New Yorker from phone
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>>16186777 I now know a new term thanks to you. Using "scry" is clever.
Foxy !QqL8nX9URE
Right, finished the Dingo/Thylacine ghost Pokemon. Any thoughts?> inb4 shitty coloring
Anonymous
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16187431 The design itself looks fine, and the colouring is alright (I'm not sure how to improve that, though; not really a colourist).
I think it would look cooler in a sort of "prowling" pose, though. Like pic related.
Anonymous
>>16187431 There's a few unnecessary bits and pieces here and there, but overall it's a very good design.
>>16187492 Something like this would be good. Action poses help a lot.
Anonymous
>>16184113 >That >Good pokemon style Woah there NY, maybe you should go play some actual pokemon games before saying something like that.
And take off the trip too. It's completely unneeded in this thread; you are not surveying, you are not an artist, you do not organize anything important, and you have the capacity of a child when it comes to critique and discussion. Critique can be done just fine anon. Then again, it does give me something to filter.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16187557 Well, he did set up the forum, and he is doing some spriting (and may end up doing a hell of a lot more spriting in future). And the trip is from when a couple dudes were impersonating him in an earlier thread; he's probably just leaving it on to prevent a repeat incident.
Foxy !QqL8nX9URE
>>16187467 How so? Seems simple enough to me, love it id you actually told me how.
>>16187542 Thanks for the comment! What bit do you deem unnecessary? If it's the dream catchers, they're there to tie in with its concept:
> It's a wondering ghost that devours the dreams of unsuspecting humans and Pokemon. Like a Thylacine it has a large/strong jaw. Around its two outer jaws (the ones near its ears), there are false dream catchers, lulling it's passerbyers into a false sense of security while they sleep ( the big sticking point being, dream catchers are from the Native American culture, not Aboriginal thus having no effect ). It uses its large hand like tail to draw out the victim's dreams, putting nightmares in the dream's place. They reside in deserts and in the edges of forests, using the holes/homes of their prey to rest in. Their ears are closed so they can concentrate on using their strong sense of smell - communication between this Pokemon's species are done with scent markings Foxy !QqL8nX9URE
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>>16187492 Thanks SEQguy! Right, I'll start working on a "prowling pose", I agree, it would look much more threatening/active then.
Anonymous
>>16187557 God, thank you. I really feel like that kind of attitude is going to put a lot of roadblocks ahead of development.
One of the first things I said when we started this project was that we need to put our foot down when it comes to issues like these.
There's something we should aim to achieve, and it's to make a pokemon game.
Not a fakemon game, not a copy of generation /vp/. We're making the same mistakes and it isn't alright.
>>16187645 People are impersonating him for a reason, and it was very easy to do so since his posts never held anything of value until his sprite attempts.
You can't impersonate a drawfag when they post art every time they want themselves to be known. You can't impersonate a musicfag when they link new scores each post.
If someone copies your tripfag, and people mistake the impersonator for you, then you need to think about what you're really contributing.
Anonymous
>>16187651 It's no problem. If I were to put my finger on it, the markings on the arms aren't needed, and the chest marking might be too detailed.
The dream catchers are fine, but they need to look more stylized. Also, try using Game Freak's palette when you colour. Ink drop on sugimori art, take a look at how vibrant everything usually is.
Anonymous
>>16187651 >>16187722 It could also do without some of those frills.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16187696 >You can't impersonate a drawfag when they post art every time they want themselves to be known. You can't impersonate a musicfag when they link new scores each post. If someone copies your tripfag, and people mistake the impersonator for you, then you need to think about what you're really contributing. A valid point. Perhaps I myself should drop my name when critiquing designs, and put it back on when doing my map design work (either asking for input, or showing what I've done). Maybe that would be for the best.
Anonymous
>>16187645 Alright, but the thing is; the trip and username are still unneeded right now.
>>16186411 You'll still have to survey that. Don't call anything 100% at this stage of the development and don't get too attached to anything, which is a bad pattern I'm seeing in you.
>>16187696 A) He needs to know the difference between design and style
B) His unwillingness to take critique to a design he loves is ridiculous, and his counterarguments aren't even counterarguments. He doesn't even have any counterarguments; it's just "no it's not". Any half-decent artist should be able to deal with any sort of critique; he doesn't even ask or consider what he's saying. We don't care about what he thinks, it's now the entire community you are catering to.
>Put the foot down Good luck moderating the content of my posts in this thread~
You haven't even started yet. Drop the melodrama.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
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>>16187781 Speaking of which, does anyone have any particular route that they'd like to see me take a stab at drawing up a grid-map for? My hand's been idle since I finished scribbling up and assembling pic related for southern Queensland.
Anonymous
>>16187781 If, for any reason, someone might need to get a hold of you in-thread, that's when you keep it on when posting. If you are surveying, if you are a constantly contributing artist, if you make music, if you're the person organizing maps.
Also, you guys are going fast with this. Are you going to just do everything by in-thread consensus or what?
Anonymous
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>>16187781 It might be a good idea in the long run. There's a big issue that might also come about this decision - the vocal minority problem that arises when a seemingly large amount of people have support over one decision, when in reality the number is far smaller.
But, and this is an educated opinion - polls provide a way for people to put their money where their mouth is.
Not several thousand like gen /vp/, god no. But when the time comes, we need very concise polls to decide what will be considered set in stone and what will not.
The stone can be removed, and replaced further down the line, but for the sake of completion the line must be drawn at some stage.
Thankfully we're just idea collecting. Seeing which ones stick, which ones don't. The only problem is that people who realise their opinions have been ignored (tooth fairy guy, I'm lookin' at you) might not always accept this outcome, and will continue to poke at the public until they get at least a portion of the reaction they wanted.
>>16187800 I'm not looking for bad blood, I agree with you 100%. Criticism in most forms is needed and expected here, this isn't a hugbox.
Anonymous
>>16187845 I think the general idea was to hold off on polls and work through thread consensus where possible. However, they may become necessary soon. We're getting a fair amount of designs now, and we only have so many niches. We need to have a framework for deciding what will fill which niche.
Foxy !QqL8nX9URE
>>16187722 Right, so:
> drop the mark on the arms > Stylize dream catchers only problem with doing that though is the fear of making it look overdesigned... > Chest might be too detailed. (In other word, drop the yellow bit and two purple line) >>16187764 > Frills Where? Where the tail is or the fur behind the neck. I'm guessing behind the neck.
All things to take into consideration. However, I don't want the design to end up looking too plain.
Anonymous
>>16187949 The spreadsheet being passed around is a good way of defining what needs to be done to consider a region fairly complete, but there's a major flaw in which the person in charge of the spreadsheet only writes the ideas they personally like.
Polling is best for the least amount of bias, and the person keeping track of all the ideas disappeared day 3.
Anonymous
>>16187962 Oh! By stylized I mean design the dream catchers to look LESS complex, and more cartoonish.
Pokemon like Klefki can get away with more detail on their items because of their size, but the bigger a pokemon is the less attention it needs drawn to very concise parts of the design.
That rough draft looks pretty good.
Anonymous
>>16187985 You have a point.
Perhaps, once we've got an understanding of the niches as well as appropriate shortlists for each niche, we should create a multi-question poll that goes like this:
>Question 1: We have lots of fossilmon suggestions. Which ones do you like best? >a) Anklyosaur opal thing >b) Rock-jaw thylacine >c) Ancient rabbit-sloth >d) etc. >Question 2: We have several suggestions for the early-route birdmon niche. Which do you like best? >a) The punk-galah >b) Magpie >c) Something lorikeet-based And such on and so forth. Thoughts?
Anonymous
>>16188084 Sounds like a valid idea.
Foxy !QqL8nX9URE
>>16188012 Hmm... Stupid question: So how do I do that? (Pic related btw, it's the dream catcher design the pokemon has at the moment).
Also, it's good to know that the rough looks okay, I've taken into account the criticisms people have given (if there's anything else that might need "fixing", please tell me !)
Anonymous
>>16188084 That's a very good idea, I propose these as our questions;
- Region Bird
- The need for a second region bird (suggestions taken from the first question)
- Region Rodent
- Region Bug
- Secondary Region Bug (Similar to bird question)
- Plant Line
- Pikachu Clone
- Audino Clone
- Evolution Stone Pokemon
- Split Evolution Pokemon
- Fossil
- Third Fossil (Second Fossil is a shoe-in and decided by previous question's results)
- Route-Blocking Pokemon (Whether one is necessary and if so what you'd like to see)
- Geodude Cave Clone
- Zubat Cave Clone
- Tentacool Sea Clone
- Machop Clone (Whether one is necessary and if so what you'd like to see)
- Pseudo
- Second Pseudo (Whether one is necessary etc)
- Amount of legendaries
The actual legendaries and the starters need to be separate polls, since I feel they carry more importance and require more group discussion.
We should decide when to open submissions and when to close them for all of these questions. It'd give people time to drawfag, describe, etc. No one is limited to the amount of suggestions they can submit, as long as some thought is put into them.
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16188274 I will start assembling templates for the polls immediately.
Anonymous
>>16188152 Something like this, perhaps?
Anonymous
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16188378 >>16188274 >>16188105 >>16188084 Alright, here's a Starter survey.
https://www.esurveycreator.com/s/fbd1040 I've activated the survey so you guys can actually read it, but I'll be wiping the results and re-launching the survey at a more appropriate time, once everything is ready.
What do you guys think of it?
Foxy !QqL8nX9URE
>>16188446 >>16188444 >>16188152 >>16188012 >>16187962 >>16187764 >>16187722 >>16187492 >>16187542 >>16187431 Right, I've tried taking as many things as possible into account (pic related - lineart for "improved" version). A more vibrant color scheme will also be there (thanks to the anon who edited my original draw - looks much better). However, I brought back the neck frills because without them, it looks really off.
Opinions? Any thought? Also, what should it be called?
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
>>16188645 I vote Dyngeist.
Foxy !QqL8nX9URE
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>>16188625 I applaud. This will be really helpful and beneficial to the project. We can narrow dowe the choices depending on what people want and then drawfags can sketch up concepts.
Anonymous
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
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>>16188666 I was trying to sneak part of the word "thylacine" into the name by using geist instead of ghost, but your name has good appeal too.
New Yorker from phone
>>16188666 666 wins the dead discussion :o
Anonymous
SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC
Alright, I'm heading to bed. I'm going to leave the Starter selection poll I posted at
>>16188625 open overnight, just to see what kinds of results we get.
If I notice any serious disputes, I'll re-run the poll during a busier time and give people the chance to fully argue their cases.
Anonymous
I gave dyngheist/ghost a shot, I really love the idea.
>>16188625 This is fantastic, I appreciate the amount of work you've put into this!
Foxy !QqL8nX9URE
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>>16188878 Goodnight SEQ. But honestly, knowing 4chan as a whole, who's to say rather than justify one option other the others, people will just shitpost saying their opinion is better because they said so.
Apart from that, I hope the survey will be helpful - it'll be interesting to see what the general consensus will be.
Foxy !QqL8nX9URE
>>16188962 Wow. Really love it, ha ha! The name however isn't set in stone yet but dyngheist/ghost (as suggested earlier) sounds good. I think what makes a fakemon/pokemon idea/concept in this project great is a collaborative effort - people throw in suggestions on a design and an people who can draw takes it into account and expand on the ideas. Your artwork is absolutely lovely anon!
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>16178178 But will they be all poison/bug?
If so how could you differentiate them?
Anonymous
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>>16189122 I think someone suggested Bug/Dark, Bug/Fighting and Bug/Poison a few threads ago.
Anonymous
>>16189067 What about Thylogheist? Also thanks much, I'd really like to draw concepts that are really solid in terms of design.
Foxy !QqL8nX9URE
>>16189172 All things to consider...
Looking through threads, the name suggestions I've found/have so far are:
> Thylogheist Thylacine + ghost + poltergeist
> Dyngheist/ghost Dingo + Thylacine + poltergeist/ghost
>Artnmare Artnwere (the Arrernte way of saying Dingo) + nightmare
>Slumbacine Slumber + Thylacine
Also, drawing solid design concepts is really neat. Anon, you should really draw some other solid designs in the threads Anonymous
>>16189337 I'll try lookinh around!
Anonymous
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>>16189467 Try your hand at this one, it's a mouse with what's basically an air gun built into its tail, and it evolves into a wombat-tank of sorts
Foxy !QqL8nX9URE
>>16189467 Why not try your hand at Boarbecue from earlier on in this thread? I think it's a pretty solid concept.
Anonymous
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>>16189716 I think we need a new thread.
Anonymous
do we have a new thread yet ?
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>16184014 yeah doesn't have to be the pseudo maybe it could be the one just before it like flygon line or something
