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Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:02:23 No.16190288 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16190327 >>16190519 >>16190821 >>16191016

So everyone's currently arguing about Smogon banning Mega Gengar blah blah blah.

For all you wifi players who this doesn't affect, how do you feel about M-Gengar on wifi right now? & how will you feel after Pokébank is available & M-Gengar with Perish Song is seen on Wifi? We all know bans don't happen (outside of legendaries) so M-Gengar will always be about.

Genuine thread for genuine discussion that will devolve into faggotry really quickly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:04:44 No.16190327 Report

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>>16190288
I'll use it with much satisfaction

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:06:53 No.16190363 Report

Quoted By: >>16190393 >>16190418 >>16190770

Indifferent. It's really not that hard to counter. People need to stop banning everything and learn to team build if they want to play competitively.

My "uu" assault vest Drapion walls it and ohkos it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:07:01 No.16190365 Report

Quoted By: >>16190434

Assault Vest Tyranitar on every team.

Alternatively, just play with smogon rules.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:08:14 No.16190385 Report

Quoted By: >>16190416 >>16190447 >>16190844

Three words

Scrappy exploud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:08:32 No.16190393 Report

Quoted By: >>16190424

>>16190363

it's like people forget that you can switch out before it megas. and even the it's not THAT hard to KO. perish song will make things more difficult though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:09:52 No.16190416 Report

Quoted By: >>16190447

>>16190385

nah nigga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:09:59 No.16190418 Report

Quoted By: >>16190532

>>16190363

Wow, dude, you're so good. I can't believe he didn't switch out his Ghost against your Dark type. Man, you must be amazing at this game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:10:10 No.16190424 Report

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>>16190393
And then they can just switch out against whatever you switch in, or just Substitute on the switch-in. And then they can trap whatever they want later on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:10:56 No.16190434 Report

Quoted By: >>16190474

>>16190365

>just play with smogon rules
>wifi

the best thing about wifi is that you DON'T have to play smogon's faggy rules.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:11:36 No.16190447 Report

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>>16190385
>>16190416
mah niggas both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:13:11 No.16190474 Report

Quoted By: >>16190510

>>16190434
Unless you agree to play with someone who is also playing by Smogon's ruleset. Then you don't have to deal with stupid bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:15:49 No.16190506 Report

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I will just keep Earthquaking it off the board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:15:55 No.16190510 Report

Quoted By: >>16190526

>>16190474

>people on wifi playing by smogon rules
>not just fucking off to showdown

>stupid bullshit
>smogon rules

k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:16:36 No.16190519 Report

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>>16190288
I play doubles. Most of the people that use that thing are retarded. I OHKOed a shit ton of them with a Sucker Punch from a Bulk Up Toxicroak or with TR Bisharp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:16:56 No.16190526 Report

Quoted By: >>16190590

>>16190510

WAAAAAAAAAAH PLAY THE WAY I WANT

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:17:11 No.16190532 Report

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>>16190418
What is pursuit? Yeah if they're smart they will sub before switching, but that takes a toll coupled with hazards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:19:29 No.16190568 Report

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I play mostly battle spot since people are still building their 6v6 teams, and I see mega Gengar rarely. It's mostly Mawile (who I have no rpoblem with) Tyranitar (same) and Kangaskhan (holy shit fuck too powerful).
The few times I did see it it didn't do much, it's not strong enough to OHKO my team and any physical sweeper will take this thing out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:19:45 No.16190573 Report

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Of course Mega Gengar is not a problem in 3v3 singles where switching never happens or 4v4 doubles where you only clutch switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:20:34 No.16190590 Report

Quoted By: >>16190608 >>16190614 >>16190739

>>16190526

>implying people playing smogon rules on wifi isn't WAAAAAAAH PLAY THE WAY I WANT

You are so retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:22:15 No.16190608 Report

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>>16190590
Both sides are retarded. Don't like smogon? Don't play on their servers or follow their rules.

Like smogon? Continue as normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:22:24 No.16190614 Report

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>>16190590

>Unless you agree to play with someone who is also playing by Smogon's ruleset. Then you don't have to deal with stupid bullshit.

Here, I highlighted the part you forgot to read.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:23:02 No.16190627 Report

Quoted By: >>16190779

So Gengar doesnt have feet in the official art?

How come he has feet ingame ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:23:47 No.16190641 Report

Quoted By: >>16190646 >>16190658 >>16190684 >>16190798 >>16190811

one hit from my greninja dark pulse and he's dead, i have never find any trouble with any M-gengar on wifi, he pretty much sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:24:24 No.16190646 Report

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>>16190641
This exactly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:25:08 No.16190658 Report

Quoted By: >>16190735

>>16190641

Wow, I didn't even think about this. You're using the ability that auto-switches Greninja onto the field when Gengar is thrown out right?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:26:12 No.16190675 Report

Quoted By: >>16190703

What about using paraflinch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:26:30 No.16190684 Report

Quoted By: >>16190794

>>16190641

Or my regular gengar. He takes out a MGengar with one Shadow Ball

I save my mega evolution for scizor.

Am i a faggot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:27:28 No.16190703 Report

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>>16190675

That'd work, I think. You would just have to be wary of Sludge Bomb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:28:35 No.16190735 Report

Quoted By: >>16190863

>>16190658

yeah, it's called "predicting", really useful if you can master it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:28:45 No.16190739 Report

Quoted By: >>16190754 >>16190787

>>16190590
So if I want to play by smogon's ruleset against other people who also want to play by smogon's ruleset and we want to play over wifi we're not allowed and should "fuck off to showdown" like you said? And I'm the one who's "baww play the way i want to play"?

Sounds like you're the retard m8 :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:29:14 No.16190749 Report

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only poke so far I've been annoyed by 3v3 is smeargle or breloom with spore/focus sash. my fault for not running a pokemon in the background with taunt, though.

should I put taunt on Greninja or Noivern, for ranked singles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:29:31 No.16190754 Report

Quoted By: >>16190942 >>16191355

>>16190739
>I'm good at this game
>But only if we follow a specific set of rules

Smashfags all over again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:30:10 No.16190770 Report

Quoted By: >>16191069

>>16190363
>My "uu" assault vest Drapion walls it and ohkos it.

Just because a Pokemon can be countered doesn't mean it should be legal. If it takes everyone running an extremely specialized set on one particular Pokemon that wouldn't be used otherwise to stop another from unilaterally wrecking teams, then that second Pokemon shouldn't be legal.

And it doesn't matter what tier your counter happens to be in. Tiers aren't transitive rankings of power. Anyone who's played Ubers can tell you NU Pokes show up there all the time as situational counters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:30:18 No.16190779 Report

Quoted By: >>16190831

>>16190627
Because they disappear into the ground when he's standing on it. Like a shadow. Official art depicts it standing, not jumping or whatever it's doing in that image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:30:29 No.16190787 Report

Quoted By:

>>16190739

Wow you sure showed him lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:30:45 No.16190794 Report

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>>16190684

M-siczor it's actually useful, so you are doing it right

Pete [0104-0499-3702]

Pete [0104-0499-3702] Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:31:06 No.16190798 Report

Quoted By:

>>16190641
I must be lucky because my Gengar has never been killed by Greninjas dark pulse on the first try.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:31:42 No.16190811 Report

Quoted By: >>16191107

>>16190641
Gengar uses Perish Song, Substitute, Protect, Disable, switches out. And you're dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:32:09 No.16190821 Report

Quoted By:

>>16190288
I'm running him and he seems fine to me, having much more success with m-kangaskhan honestly. At the same time don't mind if he goes, just slap a life orb on him and I'm good to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:32:32 No.16190831 Report

Quoted By: >>16191261

>>16190779

He is standing on that image. I believe its a glitch. When you Mevovle him and switch him, the next time he will have feet. Kinda creepy looking tho lol

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:33:05 No.16190844 Report

Quoted By:

>>16190385
This guy right here.

Bro tier opinions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:33:58 No.16190863 Report

Quoted By:

>>16190735
What predicting? You'd be retarded to switch MegaGengar into Greninja. You can't switch Greninja into MegaGengar because of Shadow Tag. You can switch Greninja in when MegaGengar switches in, but then MegaGengar can just switch out. MegaGengar can choose who it wants to engage with, which is what makes it so powerful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:35:28 No.16190897 Report

Quoted By: >>16190941 >>16190953 >>16190958 >>16190962

>Mega Alakazam is faster and has trace

I don't see the problem here.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:37:26 No.16190941 Report

Quoted By: >>16190974

>>16190897
>Mega Alakazam traced Parental Bond

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:37:30 No.16190942 Report

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>>16190754
Nice strawman faggot. The argument was that I should be free to play by whatever ruleset I want as long as both players agree to it. I have no problem playing with any ruleset my opponent wants to play with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:37:59 No.16190953 Report

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>>16190897
>Using Alakazam for any reason besides Magic Guard

Literally the only reason he went from UU to OU when Gen V started is because of Focus Sash Magic Guard. Why would you get rid of that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:38:20 No.16190958 Report

Quoted By:

>>16190897
This, it worked perfectly the other day

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:38:32 No.16190962 Report

Quoted By: >>16190986 >>16190995 >>16190999 >>16191024

>>16190897
Shadow Tag doesn't work on other Shadow Tag Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:39:03 No.16190974 Report

Quoted By: >>16191190

>>16190941
Have fun being OHKO'd by Mega Kanga's Sucker Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:39:51 No.16190986 Report

Quoted By: >>16191025

>>16190962
No but having a Shadow Tag Alakazam can be pretty cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:40:21 No.16190995 Report

Quoted By:

>>16190962
This. lern2gamemechanics

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:40:28 No.16190999 Report

Quoted By: >>16191025

>>16190962
Then let them switch out.

You've still got a Shadow Tag Alakazam.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:41:25 No.16191016 Report

Quoted By: >>16191046

>>16190288

>ban mega gengar

>won't ever ban Stealth Rock

Oh you, Smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:41:54 No.16191024 Report

Quoted By:

>>16190962
>BAWWWWW M-GENGAR IS OP BECAUSE OF PERISH SONG SHADOW TAG
>Neutralizing Shadow Tag is bad

k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:41:56 No.16191025 Report

Quoted By:

>>16190986
>>16190999
They would obviously switch to something that counters Alakazam, like any Dark type. This would require you to switch out, meaning Shadow Tag is gone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:43:05 No.16191046 Report

Quoted By:

>>16191016

Smogon made a tier in Gen V that was just OU but with SR banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:44:31 No.16191069 Report

Quoted By: >>16191154

>>16190770
>Why should I have to use rock to beat scissors why can't paper win all the time waaa waaaaa waaaaaa

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:46:21 No.16191107 Report

Quoted By: >>16191135

>>16190811
Perish song isn't even legal at the moment, so fuck off back to showdown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:47:27 No.16191135 Report

Quoted By: >>16191208

>>16191107
I'm saying it isn't viable long-term.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:48:28 No.16191154 Report

Quoted By: >>16191275

>>16191069
If you want to play in an environment where you're forced to run shitty Pokemon like Assault Vest Drapion then you are free to do so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:49:52 No.16191190 Report

Quoted By: >>16191245

>>16190974
>Sucker punch
>Not predicting one of the most overused moves on mega-skhan and just using calm mind and/or crippling with status moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:50:44 No.16191208 Report

Quoted By: >>16191269

>>16191135
Then why is there a need to ban it now? Banning Gengarite in regular OU when Perish Song isn't even a thing is retarded as shit.

Just fucking ban the combination of Perish Song and Gengarite on Gengar if that's the only thing which is broken, there's no need to completely get rid of M-Gengar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:52:35 No.16191245 Report

Quoted By:

>>16191190
>Sucker punch spammers
>Lets me sit back and spam Swords Dance

The best. The best.

Gerardo 4124-5139-1793

Gerardo 4124-5139-1793 Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:53:41 No.16191261 Report

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>>16190831

if you switch him out when he mega evolves and then bring him out again you can see his feet before he hits the ground, pretty sure that's where that image is from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:54:10 No.16191269 Report

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>>16191208
Fair enough, good point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:54:28 No.16191275 Report

Quoted By: >>16191400 >>16191424 >>16191449

>>16191154
What's wrong with being forced to use a counter? If I take Charizard I'm forced to take a rapid spinner. Jesus Christ it's like you smogonfags have never played a game with depth before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 17:58:51 No.16191355 Report

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>>16190754
Let's play nothing but OHKO moves.
If you don't, you're just scared because you're only good at your own rules.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 18:00:58 No.16191400 Report

Quoted By: >>16191413

>>16191275
>nothing but mega gengar, mega gengar counters, and pokemon that abuse mega gengar

wow such depth very complicated

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 18:01:38 No.16191413 Report

Quoted By:

>>16191400
Yes, because one pokemon is six.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 18:02:10 No.16191424 Report

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>>16191275
Because you're forced to run 1/6th of your team specifically to counter a single Pokemon. If that counter dies, you're fucked, plain and simple.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 18:03:32 No.16191449 Report

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>>16191275
Holy shit man, why did you remind me of that shitty tier.
>Every team was a sashed levitate poke, Marvel scale dragonite, Volcarona, and counters to dragonite and Volcarona.
I'm glad our lord and savior Arceus blessed us with the art of sneaky stones.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 18:05:02 No.16191482 Report

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>Mega Pinsir used Quick Attack!
>Gengar fainted

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 18:06:32 No.16191519 Report

Quoted By: >>16191997

Why not use role play to copy it ability and then switch out?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 18:29:01 No.16191997 Report

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>>16191519

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 18:32:46 No.16192075 Report

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Why does it remind me so much of this guy

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