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Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:04:35 No.16192759 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16192995 >>16193272 >>16193363 >>16193498

How good is this guy right here?

I need both an Electric type AND a Mega on my team, and this is the only guy that fits both other than Ampharos, who I heard sucks and is also a Gen II Pokemon and I already have two of those on my team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:13:07 No.16192963 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:14:45 No.16192995 Report

Quoted By: >>16193030 >>16193057

>>16192759
>Who I heard sucks

Did a retard tell you that? He may not be kanghas tier but he is no where near the worst, infact it seems like your pic related might be one of the worst megas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:16:53 No.16193030 Report

Quoted By: >>16193149 >>16194406 >>16194678

>>16192995
Ampharos IS one of the worst Megas.

Though the worst would probably be Mega Heracross. There's absolutely no reason to waste a mega slot on it when regular Heracross is superior in every way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:18:36 No.16193057 Report

Quoted By: >>16193149 >>16193336

Mega manectric is worse than regular. Regular can pull off a trick specs set really well but mega can't even scrape 4 moves together without resorting to tutor moves and hidden power.
>>16192995
Except mega ampharos is terrible. Lack of speed was the main problem with ampharos and mega is even slower and gains 3 more weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:22:30 No.16193149 Report

Quoted By: >>16193168 >>16193316

>>16193030
>>16193057

Sort of agree. He got fucked up in his typing mostly. Stat spread is okay but cmon dragon? All he gets are 3 more fucking weaknesses and dragon pulse which was nerfed to 85 BP. The fire water and grass resist do not make up for fairy, ice and dragon weakness.

He should have been electric/Fairy he even looks the part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:23:41 No.16193168 Report

Quoted By: >>16193207 >>16193258

>>16193149
Oh I forgot to mention fucking mold breaker what kind of shitty ability is that on a poke like Ampharos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:25:22 No.16193207 Report

Quoted By: >>16193230 >>16193290

>>16193168
Why? Ignoring things with Lightningrod and Volt Absorb is pretty great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:26:27 No.16193230 Report

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>>16193207
Two whole abilities, wow. Most things with those abilities are either shit or wouldn't take shit from it anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:28:11 No.16193258 Report

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>>16193168
>Not wanting to T-wave Magic Bouncers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:28:39 No.16193272 Report

Quoted By: >>16198732

>>16192759

m-manectric is top doge

but you need HP Ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:29:41 No.16193290 Report

Quoted By: >>16193400

>>16193207
Because Ampharos is a slow bulky mon. Trying to sweep with it is like using Lucario as a wall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:31:10 No.16193316 Report

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>>16193149
Eh Ampharos needed a reliable healing option to be decent since it can take hits pretty well. Trick room would work out alright but that's about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:32:10 No.16193336 Report

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>>16193057
>trick specs
pfffftahaha

do you seriously just look at /cpg/, and parrot two random words without knowing what they mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:33:22 No.16193357 Report

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>>16193336
It's switcheroo instead of trick but it's the same shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:33:38 No.16193363 Report

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>>16192759
He's shit.

I mean... just look at him...

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Maak 4613-6674-0858 [Normal] Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:35:16 No.16193400 Report

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>>16193290
>Not running M-Ampharos in Trick Room.

Stay Pleb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:36:11 No.16193423 Report

Quoted By: >>16193612 >>16198732

manectric was never terrible, and basically a free specs and scarf isn't bad at all. besides, with thunderbolt, flamethrower, volt switch, and hidden power ice, no one can resist it and the sp. atk buff basically helps it do serious damage, even if it doesn't get stab on something, and it's high speed means that a bad matchup can be avoided while still leaving a big dent. maybe it's not the best mega, but it's entirely viable in plenty of situations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:38:45 No.16193498 Report

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>>16192759
Manectric isn't a very good standalone mega, however it's pretty good as a pivot.

With gyarados, the double intimidate and lightningrod before mega evolving is pretty neat. He's also good for a hyper offensive rain team's mega due to electric weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:44:22 No.16193612 Report

Quoted By: >>16193898 >>16193902

>>16193423
But if that's your moveset why not just run Choice, do more damage (if specs), and not take up your mega slot?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:56:29 No.16193898 Report

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>>16193612
Because that Choice is up to him.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:56:36 No.16193902 Report

Quoted By: >>16193968 >>16194293 >>16194343

>>16193612
I hate running choice items, it always fucks me over the times I use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 19:59:10 No.16193968 Report

Quoted By: >>16194166

>>16193902
Learn to predict.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:02:29 No.16194060 Report

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>>16193898
GO HOME CARLOS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:07:22 No.16194166 Report

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>>16193968
It happened in a double battle though, my partner was an idiot who couldn't play and I was left with a scarf heliolisk against a jolteon, opposing heliolisk and togekiss. couldn't lock into t-bolt cause jolteon, surf would have done nothing to the helio and focus miss would do fuck all against togekiss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:13:29 No.16194293 Report

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>>16193902
git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:15:46 No.16194343 Report

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>>16193902
Nah choice only works on predictable casuals. When you get to the real smart players, choice is garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:16:05 No.16194348 Report

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Mega Manectric is barely better than a regular Jolteon. Which is pretty bad considering it is a Mega Evolution.

You will definitely earn some cool points for using it though, so it's up to you I guess.

Draven ( 2895-7558-8760 ) [Grumpig-Gothita-Wobbuffet]

Draven ( 2895-7558-8760 ) [Grumpig-Gothita-Wobbuffet] Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:18:56 No.16194406 Report

Quoted By: >>16194444 >>16194467 >>16194531

>>16193030
What exactly makes Mega Heracross so bad though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:20:47 No.16194444 Report

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>>16194406
The nose
The fucking nose

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:21:11 No.16194453 Report

Quoted By: >>16198732

It's good. Intimidate is one of the best abilities. It takes a dump on Smogon bird, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:21:57 No.16194467 Report

Quoted By: >>16194560

>>16194406
mostly useless ability
low speed
atrocious design

plus the never ending dilemma of "why should I waste my Mega slot on this, when I could be using that"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:24:28 No.16194531 Report

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>>16194406

m-muh choice moxie

It's not bad, it has decent bulk,125bp stab pin missile, gets bullet seed/rock blast as well, throw on a close combat and anything that isnt immune or bulky as shit is going to get chunked from the 185 attack stat backing it up.

Basically people are idiots on /vp/ as you can see by all the talonflame complaints

Draven ( 2895-7558-8760 ) [Grumpig-Gothita-Wobbuffet]

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Draven ( 2895-7558-8760 ) [Grumpig-Gothita-Wobbuffet] Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:25:46 No.16194560 Report

Quoted By: >>16194595

>>16194467
But his defenses and attack goes up.
I find using the multi hit moves a safer route then using a more moves that can miss more often or come with a downside of lowering stats.
Plus, I don't hate his design. He reminds me of pic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:27:21 No.16194595 Report

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>>16194560

But man
>low speed
Everyone knows if its low speed its shit.

And skill link is so bad, 125bp moves with no draw back that break subs/sash/sturdy?

useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:31:53 No.16194678 Report

Quoted By: >>16194726 >>16194771 >>16195181 >>16196244

>>16193030
Mega Banette is easily the worst. Worthless attack stat due to it being so slow, with it's only saving grace being prankster D-bond

Draven ( 2895-7558-8760 ) [Grumpig-Gothita-Wobbuffet]

Draven ( 2895-7558-8760 ) [Grumpig-Gothita-Wobbuffet] Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:34:27 No.16194726 Report

Quoted By: >>16194789 >>16194832

>>16194678
Taunt
Sucker Punch
Shadow Sneak
Destiny Bond

Would that work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:36:50 No.16194771 Report

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>>16194678

It really could have used more bulk. Even with that massive attack stat, its best attack is Shadow Claw which is pretty weak. That and it pretty much has to run Protect so it can safely use Prankster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:37:49 No.16194789 Report

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>>16194726

It'd require a lot of prediction, if they come in guns blazing and you use taunt, any stab of a decent attacking stat or SE hits will take you out handily, banette still has bad defensive stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:40:18 No.16194832 Report

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>>16194726
Well it's something, but it's defences are so horrendous, you're gonna be OHKO'D by most things. All you can rely on really is a taunt D-bond that makes her predictable as hell. Not to mention it being a massive risk if they attack first turn.

If instead of that attack spike, we got some bulk, Banette would go from worst mega straight to being one of the best

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 20:57:45 No.16195181 Report

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>>16194678
The way I see it, it's not worth wasting your Mega slot for prankster when plenty of other Pokemon do the job just fine, if not better.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 21:38:15 No.16196244 Report

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>>16194678
>Phantom Force
>Will-O-Wisp/Protect
>Paralyze/Protect
>D-Bond
Bring on your Megas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2013 23:15:55 No.16198732 Report

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>>16193272
>>16193423
>>16194453
These guys know what's up. I've run:

Manectric @ Manectite
Ability: Lightningrod
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Timid Nature
- Overheat
- Thunderbolt
- Charge Beam/Volt Switch
- Hidden Power [Ice]

If you can switch in on an electric move, especially from scrotom-wash, charge beam can set you up for a sweep. Lots of players don't seem to understand that it gets flamethrower and overheat, meaning a lot of scizors, ferrothorns, smogon swords and genesects

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