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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 17:57:30 No.16247955 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16247998 >>16247999 >>16248032 >>16248076 >>16249330 >>16250572 >>16250885 >>16251463

Why do you act like Gen 6 added anything important? It's fine to like it because it has everything from before and a few small extra things, but nothing of significance has been added since Gen 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:00:30 No.16247998 Report

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>>16247955
Gen 5 was actually a polish-focused gen. It pretty much fixed a lot of stuff from the old gen, from moves to abilities, as well as stuff like UI and that.

Gen 6 also did the same thing, except has additional stuff too.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:00:32 No.16247999 Report

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>>16247955

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:02:08 No.16248032 Report

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>>16247955
but the addition of a new type is pretty significant since it makes huge changes to how weaknesses and such are arranged. Sableye and Spiritomb no longer are weak to nothing. Steel and Poison are now viable attacking types. attacking dragon moves has taken a hit because now Fairy is immune to it. Several pokemon have had their types changed because of it, modifying their movepools and sets, most notably Azumarill and Clefable if you enjoyed running Flame Orb + Facade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:03:01 No.16248044 Report

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How is a new type not significant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:03:33 No.16248052 Report

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>>16247999
>Bench sitting
Stop the presses

Dawn

Dawn Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:05:15 No.16248076 Report

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>>16247955
>New type
>Mega evolutions
>nothing of significance

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:05:48 No.16248082 Report

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>>16248076
KILLER

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:05:54 No.16248083 Report

Quoted By: >>16248126 >>16248149 >>16250948

>>16247999
>sky battles
>significant
>photos
>significant
>diagonal moving
>significant
>jumping ledges is basically a perk of riding pokemon
>riding pokemon is very, very limited
>implying rollerblades aren't just the running shoes of gen 6
>bench sitting
>BENCH SITTING
>B E N C H
>S I T T I N G
>SIGNIFICANT

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:06:50 No.16248101 Report

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>>16247999
Customization was the best feature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:07:00 No.16248106 Report

Quoted By: >>16251927

>new type
>mega evolutions
>changes to the type chart

>any less significant than the physical/special split
I'd put IV and VI on the same level in terms on innovation. V added the least, though it did polish a lot of preexisting stuff I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:07:40 No.16248115 Report

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These complaints always baffle me a little. Even if you don't personally like it, converting everything to models rather than sprites is a pretty noticeable huge change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:08:05 No.16248126 Report

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>>16248083
It's not like time, "partial 3D", player genders or animated sprites were that significant. If anything, moving off-grid with the rollerskates/bike is more significant than those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:08:49 No.16248144 Report

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Did you even read your own image, OP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:09:03 No.16248149 Report

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>>16248083
>implying rollerblades aren't just the running shoes of gen 6
but they aren't. You can walk, run AND skate.
skate allows for free movement, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:10:50 No.16248182 Report

Quoted By: >>16250998

>there are people who think Gen 5 added anything new or innovative to the series aside from a great story for pokemon standards

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:14:43 No.16248241 Report

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>>16247999

Why did they even bother advertising the pokemon riding thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:17:05 No.16248274 Report

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>Gens with 2/3 sets of games vs Gen with just 1 set of recently released games

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:44:12 No.16248900 Report

Quoted By: >>16248988 >>16249261 >>16250493 >>16251237

>>16247999

Most of these are kind of a stretch.

I loved XY, but I pretty much am just sitting on my thumbs/playing BW2 and waiting for Z.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:47:59 No.16248988 Report

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>>16248900
I agree with a lot of that, but Player Customization is still valid even if people are salty about boys getting about half as much as the gals. Likewise, complaining about free starters because 'muh genwunners' and the new GL because of stupid online assholes is just as petty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:49:10 No.16249019 Report

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also sky battles, hordes and inverse battles

but yeah, besides everything mentions, nothing from probably gen I didn't bring anything noteworthy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:50:01 No.16249052 Report

Quoted By: >>16249122

the only significant things i can think of actua gameplay wise is
>new type
>megas
>breeding mechanics
>3d battles
thats about all i can think of

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:52:46 No.16249122 Report

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>>16249052
I think Friend Safari is pretty huge, and Super Training is worth noting as well.

You could count Pokemonamie as affection does change gameplay considerably in single player, but personally I wouldn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:54:57 No.16249181 Report

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Fairy Type
Breeding system overhaul

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:57:10 No.16249261 Report

Quoted By: >>16249394 >>16251894

>>16248900
>new evolution methods
>only Malimar line

Goodra line needing rain
Slyveon needing poke-amie

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 18:59:43 No.16249330 Report

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>>16247955
>new type
>mega evolutions

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 19:01:32 No.16249371 Report

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I think the only big thing gen 6 did was making it so sound attacks could hit passed Sub.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 19:02:19 No.16249394 Report

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>>16249261
>"Sly"veon
It's not a sly cunt, you draggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 19:03:03 No.16249409 Report

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>infinite-use TMs
>based Gen 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 19:39:00 No.16250493 Report

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>>16248900
>classic partner

haha

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 19:42:03 No.16250572 Report

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>>16247955
>new type
>mega evolutions
>3D
>nothing of significance
Okay

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 19:44:57 No.16250666 Report

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>>16249394
Reminder that your pic does not resemble Sylveon at all. Sylveon is pink and white not orange and beije and it has no pupils only a solid light blue eye. If you don't like that then you don't like Sylveon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 19:45:59 No.16250703 Report

Quoted By: >>16250847 >>16251146

>>16247999
The only significant ones are

>Full 3D Graphics
>Fairy Type
>Mega Evolution
>Horde Encounters
>Bench Sitting
>Diagonal Movement
>Trainer Customization
>Language Selection
>Type Chart Modification
>Retcons

So it actually is quite a bit. Amie is neat and I hope that is the one gimmick that they keep running with, even though they usually abandon things like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 19:50:24 No.16250847 Report

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>>16250703
Masuda talked about wanting players to feel closer to their Pokemon. Amie might have a good chance at staying, especially since the feature looks like it took a lot of effort. Though if they do a Hoenn remake it probably won't be in it, but it'll show up in Z or Gen VII (my guess).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 19:51:22 No.16250885 Report

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>>16247955
dream world shouldn't count as an add because it's only function (which gladly was forgotten completly this gen) was introducing hidden abilities, which per-se are an extension from the abilities previously introduced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 19:53:16 No.16250948 Report

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>>16248083
fuck you, bench sitting is great

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 19:55:05 No.16250998 Report

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>>16248182
b-but unlimited TM use

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 19:56:08 No.16251034 Report

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quality, not quantity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 19:59:04 No.16251146 Report

Quoted By: >>16251232 >>16251265

>>16250703
Amie will be gone next generation and Sylveon will evolve via Fairy Rock or something via trade

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:02:03 No.16251232 Report

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>>16251146
Can you make poffins/pokeblocks/whatever new shit to increase beauty this gen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:02:18 No.16251237 Report

Quoted By: >>16251303 >>16251333

>>16248900
>getting kanto starters is bad because genwunner
Why are you people so determined to hate anything gen 1 related because of some faggots that don't even bother playing the games anymore?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:03:16 No.16251265 Report

Quoted By: >>16251471 >>16251868

>>16251146
none of eeveeolutions features has gone since the beggining, what makes you think that amie will go?.

maybe will be absent in some games but it will be.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:04:46 No.16251303 Report

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>>16251237

because muh autism thinks it subtracts from the idea of a starter when there are two sets of them under an hour of gameplay from each other.

bulbasaur is still the best though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:05:48 No.16251333 Report

Quoted By: >>16251480 >>16251676

>>16251237
>hurr durr genwunners don't play the games anymore
But that's wrong. People only say that when they know that something applies to genwunners too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:09:29 No.16251463 Report

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>>16247955
>Act like Gen 6 added anything important
>A BRAND new type, causing shake ups in the meta
>Retcons of existing Pokemon to that new type make them more usable
>A overhaul of existing battle mechanics changing alot from the previous meta (Spore and Grass types, Electric immunity to Para, etc.)
>Mega Evolutions

It added plenty right there alone

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:09:43 No.16251471 Report

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>>16251265

as much as i like amie, it might end up being a resource glut in later gens.

amie is necessary for the evo of ONE pokemon, so that guy's idea of fairy rock or trade is pretty plausible if amie does get the axe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:10:01 No.16251480 Report

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>>16251333
The only place where people use the word "genwunner" to refer to someone who has played past gen 1, or maybe 2, is here and it's a pretty recent development.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:15:30 No.16251676 Report

Quoted By: >>16251948

>>16251333
>genwunner no longer means only those people that quit after gen 1, possibly gen 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:21:24 No.16251868 Report

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>>16251265
Pokemon Amie is this gen's major gimmick, it will most likely get axed next generation or replaced by a similar program

Gamefreak will always find a new way to evolve existing Pokemon, there is a reason Sylveon is the only Pokemon that evolves through Pokemon Amie and the rest of the Fairy types evolve through items

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:22:01 No.16251894 Report

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>>16249261
Also Pangoro and technically Amaura/Tyrunt, since no pokemon had evolved by time of day AND level before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:22:49 No.16251927 Report

Quoted By: >>16252059

>>16248106
the p/s split was the best thing to happen to pokemon tho... everything started to fall into place

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:23:24 No.16251948 Report

Quoted By: >>16252058

>>16251676
It never did. It means people that have huge boners for genwun and sometimes 2 and blindly hate everything that came after it.

There are plenty of them on this board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:24:06 No.16251964 Report

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>rebalanced type chart/type changes

they didnt even rebalance the type chart at all they literally just nerfed steel

unless you're talking about setting a precedent

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:26:58 No.16252058 Report

Quoted By: >>16252184

>>16251948
Yes it did, that's exactly what it always meant.

A genwunner is, and has always been someone who only played Gen 1 and then grew out of the series, and dislikes anything that isn't Gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:27:00 No.16252059 Report

Quoted By: >>16252190

>>16251927
The SA/D split was just as huge

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:30:33 No.16252184 Report

Quoted By: >>16252250 >>16252268

>>16252058
Except that's wrong.

That is only "true" when people try to say XY wasn't pandering to genwunners so that they don't look like complete idiots, because it was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:30:44 No.16252190 Report

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>>16252059
i didn't say it wasn't but implying that nothing happened after gen 4 is just as bad as being a genwunner imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:32:24 No.16252250 Report

Quoted By: >>16252342

>>16252184
Except people who say it's pandering to Genwunners are using the fucking term wrong.

XY is pandering to nostalgiafags. They're different from Genwunners because they still play the newer games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:32:59 No.16252268 Report

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>>16252184
Yes, I know >urbandictionary but
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=genwunner

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2013 20:34:47 No.16252342 Report

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>>16252250
>implying genwunner isn't just a nostalgiafag that prefers genwun

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