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So, what do you guys do to counter this fucker? Assume Prankster, Taunt, Will-O-Wisp, Recover, Foul Play, 252 EVs in HP and 128 in Def and SpD each, and leftovers.No fire or fairy mons. Any competent sableye runner will switch out against them immediately with their own counter anyways. You can only choose from your current team's movepool. No ubers.
Anonymous
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stlngds: 0301-9809-0063 (Larvesta, Growlithe, Braixen) {3136} !nsEni1JJco Mon 25 Nov 2013 23:36:35 No. 16257269 Report Quoted By:
Anonymous
>>16256958 God Tier: Hit it with a Timid Gengar's Shadow Ball
Will that kill it?
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stlngds: 0301-9809-0063 (Larvesta, Growlithe, Braixen) {3136} !nsEni1JJco Mon 25 Nov 2013 23:48:27 No. 16257575 Report >>16257296 252 SpA Gengar Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 128 SpD Sableye: 82-97 (52.2 - 61.7%)
I can either will-o-wisp you, foul play you for anywhere between 50-100+% damage depending on EVs, then either recover the next turn assuming I will-o-wisp for maximum stallage or try foul play again and hope the RNG gods are with me. Try again.
Anonymous
>>16257575 Mega gengar shadow ball.
Anonymous
>>16256958 I run a S. Defensive set with Toxic instead of FP.
Also, isn't Foul Play actually worse when you use WoW?
Also, Heatran just reks it.
Anonymous
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>>16257718 Foul Play uses your own status condition, item, and typing to determine damage with their attack stat
The only two factors you use of theirs are base attack and boosts.
Anonymous
>Guts Flame Orb Conkeldurr with payback who resists foul play >Toxic Orb Gliscor with Fling+Acrobatics
Anonymous
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>>16257655 But my Gengar isn't holding Gengarite!
Anonymous
>>16257575 What about a Dazzling Gleam?
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stlngds: 0301-9809-0063 (Larvesta, Growlithe, Braixen) {3136} !nsEni1JJco Tue 26 Nov 2013 00:16:41 No. 16258268 Report Quoted By:
>>16257655 Same outcome, just about a 10% damage difference on either side.
>>16257795 Not too shabby. I'd probably switch out to my bulky Gardevoir to counter Conkeldurr as soon as things get messy, and Defensive Blastoise/Lapras in the case of Gliscor, but it'll probably have been too late for Sableye in that case. Good job.
>>16257964 252 SpA Mega Gengar Dazzling Gleam vs. 252 HP / 128 SpD Sableye: 134-158 (85.3 - 100.6%)
I'm doing these at level 50 btw, at level 100 the damage was 83.5-98.6%. Not bad, though. I should probably put a focus thingy instead of leftovers on this guy then.
Anonymous
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>>16257964 ...right, spiritomb and sableye have weaknesses now
Anonymous
>Breed 4IV Larvesta with 2IV Ditto >Receive 5IV Larvesta on first batch
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stlngds: 0301-9809-0063 (Larvesta, Growlithe, Braixen) {3136} !nsEni1JJco Tue 26 Nov 2013 00:40:50 No. 16258874 Report Quoted By:
>>16258836 Wrong thread, anon.
Mukubird
Mega Absol with Pursuit and Night Slash
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>>16259814 >swagger >letting avalugg use curse I don't think that kid knew how to switch out, man.
Anonymous
>>16256958 Fuck your hard mode, just kill it with CB Brave Birds. It goes down just as fast as anything else.
Anonymous
>>16260102 >implying any competent player won't just switch out on sight Anonymous
>>16260219 >come up with a counter to this pokemon >LOL I'LL JUST SWITCH OUT WHEN YOU BRING OUT YOUR COUNTER Anonymous
usually run Gliscor w/ taunt, never had a problem with Sableye or any other prankster for that matter
Anonymous
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>>16260438 >taunt gliscor >gliscor used taunt >but it failed! Uh...
Anonymous
>>16260343 I understand your frustration, but sableye is a special case here. Do you really think I'd keep it out against smogonbirde/flamechicken/stickburd while I'm running will-o-wisp staller? Fuck no. Any other pokemon that can learn Brave Bird are inferior to those two, so nobody runs them, and thus they're not something I should reasonably expect to counter.
>>16260438 Sableye has prankster, gliscor don't. If I use taunt as my first move then you're fucked.
Mukubird
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stlngds: 0301-9809-0063 (Larvesta, Growlithe, Braixen) {3136} !nsEni1JJco Tue 26 Nov 2013 01:58:30 No. 16260938 Report Quoted By:
>>16260760 252 Atk Mega Absol Night Slash vs. 252 HP / 128 Def Sableye: 73-87 (46.4 - 55.4%)
252 Atk Mega Absol Pursuit vs. 252 HP / 128 Def Sableye: 42-51 (26.7 - 32.4%)
I can't see any situation I would switch sableye on an absol when running any other mon on my team, so pursuit probably isn't a good counter.
Anonymous
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>>16260343 >complains about pokemon switching out against notable weakness >GOD FORBID SWITCHING BECOMES A VIABLE TACTIC WHEN MY OPPONENT HAS NOTHING TO FIGHT ME WITH OH NO WE CAN'T HAVE THAT NOW LET ME GET A FREE OHKO ON YOU Anonymous
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>>16260652 I'm sorry but isn't that the way it works? You forced a switch so the sableye lost out on an opportunity to do something that turn.
Anonymous
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>>16257575 >will-o-wisp >on a special attacker nice try
:^) Anonymous
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I play doubles and literally always lead with Klefki. It outspeeds and sets up safeguard and then Sableye is pretty effectively neutered.
Anonymous
I run a Sableye, best way to take it out is with a strong special attacker that resists Foul Play, especially if the special attacks have hax effects like BRN or PSN.
Anonymous
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>>16266396 Really? I've wrecked Magnezone with mine. Dunno what your friend is running.
