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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 03:58:48 No.16315176 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16315292 >>16315464 >>16315719 >>16315770

Ninjask on steroids

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:01:43 No.16315266 Report

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king of bugs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:02:42 No.16315292 Report

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>>16315176
>Mega-Blaziken used Flare Blitz!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:04:09 No.16315338 Report

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>>16315292
OH MY GOD OF COURSE IT HAS A FUCKING WEAKNESS STOP TALKING

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:05:30 No.16315386 Report

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>>16315292

>Using Scoliopede in ubers

Come on now, hes really good. But not that good, but maybe with focus sash anything is possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:06:19 No.16315408 Report

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>>16315292
Congratulations, you understand type matchups and why you carry a full team of 6 Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:08:20 No.16315464 Report

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>>16315176
>one of the coolest bugs makes my favorite bug 100% useless

I don't know how to feel about this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:09:30 No.16315492 Report

Quoted By: >>16315528 >>16315529 >>16315534 >>16316776 >>16321541

>>16315338
>>16315408
>>16315386
>mad that your bro is outclassed by a popular pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:11:12 No.16315528 Report

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>>16315492

none of those guys, but yeah i'm pretty assblasted about that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:11:16 No.16315529 Report

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>>16315492
its more that youre just saying "it has a weakness therefore it is shit", megachicken is ohkoed by talonflame and yet it still has its uses

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:11:27 No.16315534 Report

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>>16315492

My bro also gets beat by groundon and metwo. What's your point?

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Paulino 2449 4848 3179 Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:12:42 No.16315563 Report

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>>16315292
>You have to use a Mega to try and undermine Scolipede
>A fucking Mega

Wow

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:13:02 No.16315569 Report

Quoted By: >>16315623 >>16315701

Blaziken > Scolipede > Ninjask

As far as Speed Boost BPers go, anwyay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:14:09 No.16315605 Report

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>>16315292
>Scolipede used EQ!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:14:54 No.16315623 Report

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>>16315569

yet but Baton Pass, +2 attack and +2 speed to something awesome, to make it even better, can you say bone rape via marowak? At least until scoliopede gets moved from NU.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:17:18 No.16315701 Report

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>>16315569
>As far as Speed Boost BPers go, anwyay.
Yea, but nobody uses Blaziken to pass Speed Boost. Just full on assault with Ultra Mega Chicken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:17:58 No.16315719 Report

Quoted By: >>16315763 >>16315886

>>16315176

Overrated. Especially as a lead, which for some reason people think is a good idea.

Good as a Baton Passer though, but any Pokemon whose primary function is to Baton Pass is bad, and even while Poison got a buff, you're not going to use Poison Jab on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:18:55 No.16315741 Report

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>>16315701

Why would you baton pass with it is the real question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:19:45 No.16315763 Report

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>>16315719

Megahorn is fine enough STAB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:20:08 No.16315770 Report

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>>16315176

Lets make a list of Pokemon that will be Forever NU because of New Pokemon Additions or buffs to Pokemon

Dusknoir because Aegislash
Ninjask because Scolipede
...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:22:40 No.16315836 Report

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>>16315770
not sure about NU but i doubt breloom is staying in ou with the talonflame presence

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:24:08 No.16315870 Report

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>>16315836

And the nerf to Spore

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:24:53 No.16315886 Report

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>>16315719
I run

Scolipede @Life orb
252atk/252spe/4def
Rock Slide
Mega horn
Protect
Swords Dance

You'd be surprised how good or is at scouting. That and it demolishes Volcarona and Charizard Y leads, and can usually OHKO Tyranitar. It can force switches too and that's when you Swords Dance.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:26:41 No.16315931 Report

Quoted By: >>16316212 >>16317100 >>16320858

>>16315770

I wish they would fix dusknior

>Boost shadow punch to 80 bp
>put 30 special attack and 15 of each defenses right into HP
>Give it Drain Punch
>Hidden ability Iron fist

There ready for OU fo U

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:37:44 No.16316212 Report

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>>16315931

I've fix a pokemon you can do it too!

Take a crappy pokemon, and make it OU!

Do what I did, just that same!

Like this motherfucker, hes pretty lame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:40:28 No.16316264 Report

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>>16316212
awh i love grumpig i keep on wanting to use him, all it really needs is boosted hp, SpD, and slack off and itd be a pretty solid special wall

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:44:37 No.16316357 Report

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>>16316212
Give it Magic Bounce.

You know, since Magic Coat, which Magic Bounce is based off of, was Grumpig's exclusive move in Gen 3.

Move 10 Attack into Defense.

Boom, insta-UU with OU usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:45:53 No.16316381 Report

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>>16316264

I'm suprised he doesn't get it already. I mean can anyone give me a good reason as to why Infernape has it? Without slack off I feel like slowbro and slowking wouldn't be nearly as good and would only but used as special attackers without a reliable form of recovery. But even if it would get slack off and some boosts, it would still likely be outclassed by slowking for having good offenses and an amazing move pool.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:47:32 No.16316407 Report

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>>16316357

>Using his tail to bounce around
>Gets magic Bounce

I like it! Even though with all honesty I hate magic bounce.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:49:39 No.16316461 Report

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>>16316212

Someone has to fix hitmonchan as well. Another pokemon I love that disappoints.

The catch is no stat boosts, just the redistributing of stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:51:35 No.16316509 Report

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>>16316381
Regenerator is pretty convenient recovery.

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Ian 0989-3088-1514 Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:52:38 No.16316540 Report

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>>16316212
Th-That was meant to rhyme, right?
I liked it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 04:55:56 No.16316604 Report

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>>16316540

Well got any pokemon you wish were better than they are? Lets talk about 'em

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:01:29 No.16316724 Report

Quoted By: >>16316902 >>16316904 >>16317517 >>16317754

>>16316604
Maractus! Also Delibird, I love Delibird so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:04:32 No.16316776 Report

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>>16315492
>>16315292

Getting OHKO'd by a super effective attack by something with STAB and high offensive stats makes the pokemon bad? That's nonsense.

I LOVE Mega Blaziken, but what about Azumarril with Aqua Jet? That's why we switch. That's why switching is a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:05:11 No.16316794 Report

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>>16315292

M-Blaziken will always lose to a Scoliopede holding a focus sash with EQ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:07:39 No.16316838 Report

Quoted By: >>16316982 >>16320589

>>16316604

flareon, leafeon and glaceon

Flareon I'd swap it's Sp.A with it's speed. Being made in Gen 1 kind of screwed it's stats.

leafeon and glaceon could use more moves, but mostly, I hate their weather based abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:10:52 No.16316902 Report

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>>16316724

Delibird

I...uhm... shit... I mean I know I said no stat boosts but I'll let it go for especially shitty pokemon.

>+30 into attack from special attack
>+30 speed outright because its BST is kind of shameful
>Ice no longer week to rock
>Hone Claws

Mostly because Ice no long being weak to rock would make having ice less of a liability and would benefit the whole game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:10:58 No.16316904 Report

Quoted By: >>16316961

>>16316724
Delibird gets Huge Power.

I know that seems like a lazy answer, but think about it. Fake Out and Ice Shard would hit pretty hard. Combine with Destiny Bond, and you have something that hits hard, and is frail on purpose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:14:00 No.16316961 Report

Quoted By: >>16321422

>>16316904
it does already have the shit version of huge power i guess, itd be cool if it got a signature ability though i cant think of one

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:14:54 No.16316982 Report

Quoted By: >>16317082 >>16317163

>>16316838
>Flareon
Just rearrange the stats.

Is now: 65/130/60/95/110/65

Should be: 110/130/65/60/65/95

Keeps its niche as a physical Eeveelution, gives it enough HP to compensate for Flare Blitz recoil, and gives it enough Speed to compete. Pretty damn frail, but give it Guts, slap a Choice Scarf on it, and switch it into a Toxic.

No survivors. Not even Flareon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:19:44 No.16317082 Report

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>>16316982

I like it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:20:27 No.16317100 Report

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>>16315931
At least Dusknior fixed Dusclops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:23:09 No.16317163 Report

Quoted By: >>16317275 >>16317291

>>16316982
Congrats, you just made a Darmanitan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:26:44 No.16317247 Report

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>>16315836
Same to Volcarona

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:27:42 No.16317275 Report

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>>16317100

It needs good recovery outside of pain split.

>>16317163

HA

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:28:20 No.16317291 Report

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>>16317163
No I didn't. Darmanitan doesn't have Guts.

Also, Darmanitan has moves.

Seriously though, a Flareon with that stat spread would be great. Hell, drop the Choice Scarf and pick up a Toxic Orb.

Flame Charge/Flare Blitz/Superpower/Facade

Fun times!

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Isaac 3308 4781 6052 Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:31:05 No.16317356 Report

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>>16316212
Bulky bounce would be fine. Also gets heal bell and WW, be a pretty neat utility

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:39:18 No.16317517 Report

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>>16316724
Poor Maractus wants a viable specially offensive move that isn't Grass type. I really like that cactus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 05:49:23 No.16317754 Report

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>>16316724
>New Ability: Christmas Spirit
>Boosts all base stats by 100 on Christmas

The best part is I could see GameFreak doing something like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 08:33:46 No.16320589 Report

Quoted By: >>16320674

>>16316838
Leafeon just needs night slash and low sweep to avoid getting walled. Also give it either guts or poison heal so it can enhhance either defense or avoid beig crippled by burns and other status moves.
Glaceon should swap its SpA for speed and get skill link and acess to rock blast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 08:35:23 No.16320606 Report

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>>16315292
Assuming both are leading (and of course Scolipede is leading) Blaziken gets outsped on the first turn and dies to Earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 08:41:40 No.16320674 Report

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>>16320589

Once you can transfer Pokemon, you can get Knock Off Leafeon which isn't too bad. And why would you give Glaceon all that? Rock Blast off of 60 base attack isn't going to do crap even with Skill Link. If anything it needs one of its defense stats put into speed, because the bulky ice type thing isn't working out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 08:49:27 No.16320770 Report

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>trfw Ninjask will never be usable again
>tfw another bro replaced by a new pokemon

RIP Machamp
RIP Ninjask

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 08:56:57 No.16320858 Report

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>>16315931

Why use Duskonoir when you can use eviolite dusclops?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 08:58:23 No.16320872 Report

Quoted By: >>16320899

>>16315741
Well, I faced a team on Showdown that relied on Baton Passing speed to an Aegislash. I still don't get how that was a good idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 09:02:12 No.16320899 Report

Quoted By: >>16320916

>>16320872
High defense, so it switches in easy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 09:03:57 No.16320916 Report

Quoted By: >>16320968

>>16320899
But with high speed in offensive form, it falls pretty easily. It seems like a good idea, but the frailty needs to be compensated for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 09:07:53 No.16320963 Report

Quoted By: >>16321049

How do you fix Luvdisc? Discarding the obvious "Make it evolve into Alomomola."

I guess if we buff its stats but keep roughly the same ratio, we get a speedy special wall? Maybe give it Serene Grace Scald?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 09:08:23 No.16320968 Report

Quoted By: >>16321067

>>16320916
But if it's built for receiving a speed boost then it will likely have stronger moves like Shadow Claw and Iron Head, might even ignore Kings Sheild for coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 09:14:30 No.16321049 Report

Quoted By: >>16321100

>>16320963
Make it Fairy/Water

Make it so it has Cute Charm and so qt charm makes Attract work 75% of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 09:16:25 No.16321067 Report

Quoted By: >>16321259

>>16320968
When I said it falls easily, I was speaking from experience. I survived its attack and finished it in one hit. Well, it took a little damage when I attacked it on the switch-in. The strategy had potential, but wasn't really thought out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 09:19:36 No.16321100 Report

Quoted By: >>16321259

>>16321049
What move did it use and against what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 09:35:13 No.16321259 Report

Quoted By: >>16321356

>>16321100
I assume you were responding to me? >>16321067
I can't remember which Pokemon I was using, but I did take a noticeable amount of damage from its Sacred Sword.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 09:45:13 No.16321356 Report

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>>16321259
That's the problem

Shadow Claw and Iron Head would have killed if you didn't resist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 09:51:02 No.16321422 Report

Quoted By: >>16321463

>>16316961
>itd be cool if it got a signature ability though
Unwrap. It removes all stat boosts from the defending Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 09:55:19 No.16321463 Report

Quoted By: >>16321495

>>16321422
but delibird cant switch into anything, and after it switches in what's going to do? its so weak that the opponent can probably reboost in its face

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 09:57:41 No.16321495 Report

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>>16321463
I never said the signature ability would make it any good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2013 10:02:19 No.16321541 Report

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>>16315492
If anything I'm mad that my best bro and number 1 Gardevoir buddy, as the only Speed Boost Iron Defense passer in the game, is guaranteed to be OU.

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