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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:14:43 No.16339231 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16339327

>yfw mega banette is better than mega gengar

prove me wrong pro tip you can't

Pete [0104-0499-3702]

Pete [0104-0499-3702] Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:17:49 No.16339305 Report

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We can't stop you from dreaming OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:18:46 No.16339327 Report

Quoted By: >>16339595

>>16339231
I didn't even know Mega Banette existed so it must not be that great.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:19:05 No.16339337 Report

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Design-wise, at least.

Lucille FC: 5129-1103-7167

Lucille FC: 5129-1103-7167 Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:25:46 No.16339474 Report

Quoted By: >>16339605 >>16339622 >>16339754

>priority destiny bond
>if you try and taunt her she has priority taunt
>take out a physical sweeper, priority will o wisp

B-but what about the fact that prankster doesn't activate first turn?

> protect or 165 attack sucker punch/stab shadowsneak

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:27:55 No.16339512 Report

Quoted By: >>16339663

...What does Mega Banette actually do?

Tom - 4596 9557 6274

Tom - 4596 9557 6274 Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:29:47 No.16339558 Report

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I've been having a lot of fun with her. She's not easy and can be practically useless, but I love her on cleanup, burn the next guy, switch out, and send in some other time for more or get ready with Dbond.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:31:15 No.16339595 Report

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>>16339327
>not knowing about every Pokemon the minute they are revealed

why should your opinions matter

Matt: 2680-9495-6734 [Rock] Nosepass, Macargo Barbaracle

Matt: 2680-9495-6734 [Rock] Nosepass, Macargo Barbaracle Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:31:26 No.16339605 Report

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>>16339474
>her
How autistic are you?

Bro 5155 3367 4712 (Lampent, Drifblim, Phantump)

Bro 5155 3367 4712 (Lampent, Drifblim, Phantump) Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:32:12 No.16339622 Report

Quoted By: >>16339685 >>16339754

>>16339474
Unless the other player is also using a priority user, Mega Banette always going first is so nice.
Even Banettes attacks are priority moves if you're using Sneak and Sucker Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:33:42 No.16339663 Report

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>>16339512
Destiny Bonds you to death

Tom - 4596 9557 6274

Tom - 4596 9557 6274 Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:34:20 No.16339685 Report

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>>16339622
With talonflame and other pranksters, mega banette came at a bad time, but she's still fun and unexpected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:37:50 No.16339754 Report

Quoted By: >>16339808

>>16339474
>>16339622
I prefer Shadow Claw for the 2-turn long destiny bonds.

Bro 5155 3367 4712 (Lampent, Drifblim, Phantump)

Bro 5155 3367 4712 (Lampent, Drifblim, Phantump) Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:40:22 No.16339808 Report

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>>16339754
That makes sense. Banette has a lot of variety.
It isn't a traditional prankster user like people try and use it as. Prankster is just another one of Banettes tools.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:43:06 No.16339878 Report

Quoted By: >>16340000

Mega-Banette has a 50% gender ratio and it doesn't even look vaguely feminine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:48:03 No.16340000 Report

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>>16339878
>Evil purse
>not feminine

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:49:38 No.16340043 Report

Quoted By: >>16340094

No shadow tag means nobody has to stay in unless you run mean look, which takes an extra turn over gengar to get a kill, plus means it has no extra move in shadow ball because it would have to run
Mean look
Destiny Bond
Substitute
Protect
Face it, it sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:51:50 No.16340094 Report

Quoted By: >>16340350

>>16340043
>shadow ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:56:11 No.16340186 Report

Quoted By: >>16340268 >>16340310

I would LOVE to use this, as Banette is one of my favourites. I wasn't too fond of its mega when I first saw it, but it's starting to grow on me. Prankster is one of my favourite abilities though.

Have no experience with it, so anyone who does can let me know if I need to change anything here. This is the set I want to use:

Banette@Banettite
Ability: Frisk/Prankster
EVs: 252 Att / 252 HP / 4 Def
- Sucker Punch or Shadow Sneak?
- Taunt
- Destiny Bond
- Disable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:57:06 No.16340207 Report

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>Purse
It's a doll you autists.

Tom - 4596 9557 6274

Tom - 4596 9557 6274 Fri 29 Nov 2013 03:59:43 No.16340268 Report

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>>16340186
I run suckerpunch, shadow sneak, dbond, and will o wisp. Not crazy about suckerpunch, thinking of switching it for taunt or something. I'm not a big fan of disable honestly. And will o wisp works really well.

Ban 1118-0232-4885 (Grumpig, Espurr, Girafarig){248}

Ban 1118-0232-4885 (Grumpig, Espurr, Girafarig){248} Fri 29 Nov 2013 04:01:40 No.16340310 Report

Quoted By: >>16340384

>>16340186
I've been running Protect for guaranteed Megaevo (Prankster doesn't activate until the turn after Megaevolution) and Phantom Force (tho Shadow Claw is good). Plus you can scout with Protect then priority disable to shut down moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 04:02:57 No.16340350 Report

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>>16340094
I meant gengar has an extra slot for shadow ball, while the same type of mega-Banette can't have a cover move if shit goes south

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 04:04:34 No.16340384 Report

Quoted By: >>16340539 >>16340659

>>16340310

I like the idea of Protect + Disable...problem is though, what would I drop? Priority Destiny Bond is kinda the point of M-Banette, and if I don't have an attacking move I'm not accomplishing much apart from dying and taking out a Pokémon...I'd like to revenge kill one too. Maybe drop Taunt? But that makes me taunt bait myself. Huh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 04:08:23 No.16340462 Report

Quoted By: >>16340515

I run Protect, WoW, DB and Phantom Force. It's worked pretty well for me thus far

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 04:11:26 No.16340515 Report

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>>16340462
This is the go-to set gentlemen.

I like Mega Banette but you do need to question the value of a suicidal Mega Evolution.

Ban 1118-0232-4885 (Grumpig, Espurr, Girafarig){248}

Ban 1118-0232-4885 (Grumpig, Espurr, Girafarig){248} Fri 29 Nov 2013 04:12:37 No.16340539 Report

Quoted By: >>16340656 >>16340659

>>16340384
That's MBanette's huge problem, severe 4MSS. It wants to do everything at the same time. Cant get rid of DB, need an attack move, need protect or sub to avoid damage or scout, need WOW and disable to cripple. Its really hard making a set for this thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 04:16:24 No.16340636 Report

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The Japs in Free and Rated Battle don't seem to know about M-Banette yet. I've had a few of them quit out after I take out their Mega-Gengar with DB or their Trevenant/Minimize Chandelure with Phantom Force

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 04:17:07 No.16340656 Report

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>>16340539

Yeah, starting to see that...it's hurting my brain. Although, it could work in its favour, since no one will know wtf you're running if you're unpredictable enough...

It's a real shame this wasn't a normal evolution. Takes the Mega slot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 04:17:16 No.16340659 Report

Quoted By: >>16340853 >>16340899

>>16340384
>>16340539
I'm running Shadow Claw, Protect, WoW, Destiny Bond. From my experience, Protect is absolutely necessary or you'll end in games where you don't get a chance to Mega before being OHKO'd. Shadow Claw + Destiny Bond combo works against things that will try to stall you with a set up move, since you can use Shadow Claw while still having DB active. WoW to cripple Physical stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 04:26:10 No.16340853 Report

Quoted By: >>16340960

>>16340659
Wait, I thought DB only lasted for that turn

Ban 1118-0232-4885 (Grumpig, Espurr, Girafarig){248}

Ban 1118-0232-4885 (Grumpig, Espurr, Girafarig){248} Fri 29 Nov 2013 04:27:58 No.16340899 Report

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>>16340659
Yeah, Shadow Claw could definitely work instead of Phantom Force, but I like PF better for some reason. It seems to combo well after you disable/burn something, plus you avoid damage and tend to hit last.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 04:30:38 No.16340960 Report

Quoted By: >>16341214

>>16340853
It is in effect until your next move. Since Shadow Claw doesn't have Priority, the opponent will go first in the case of most sweepers you'll want to DB, so they either attack you and die, or you get in a free Shadow Claw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 04:35:34 No.16341043 Report

Quoted By: >>16341075

Only problem with him is Smogonburd outspeeds and kills before he can get off a DB. Its also immune to WoW

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 04:37:06 No.16341075 Report

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>>16341043
Yes, fuck talonflame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 04:43:01 No.16341214 Report

Quoted By: >>16341340

>>16340960

Is that right? That's interesting, and makes me want to use one even more.

Ban 1118-0232-4885 (Grumpig, Espurr, Girafarig){248}

Ban 1118-0232-4885 (Grumpig, Espurr, Girafarig){248} Fri 29 Nov 2013 04:49:07 No.16341340 Report

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>>16341214
It's deceptively good, I always use it as a lead to get it Megad as fast as possible. If you lead with it, may as well try and find a way to fit taunt in there somehow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 05:50:03 No.16342637 Report

Quoted By: >>16343211

>All this talk of Banette getting OHKO'd
Give it a bit of defenses. Mega Banette can take a hit decently well. Unless they're some super strong dark type you should be able to mega and get off whatever move you want without dying. Besides, if they are a big strong dark user, why would you Mega instead of switching anyway, unless of course they use Sucker Punch as their main STAB, in which case they won't be much of a threat after it fails and they get Will-o-wisp'd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 05:51:53 No.16342662 Report

Quoted By: >>16342736

Too bad he can't get priority on mega, pretty much forces you to waste a slot on protect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 05:56:06 No.16342736 Report

Quoted By: >>16343211

>>16342662
You could always just take the hit, or Megaevolve against something not able to hit Banette hard.
Mega Banette can tank a hit. Plus you still get priority on attacking moves with Shadow Sneak or Sucker Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 06:18:48 No.16343211 Report

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>>16342637
>>16342736
HAVING to take the hit can make the difference between actually accomplishing something and being a wasted team slot though.

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