>>16346048If you're going to completely ignore how this has happened every single generation since 3, I suppose I'll be deluded as you and assume Greninja gets a mega evolution or something next gen.
>>16346064>I think you're forgetting that it can take special hits since its a special wall60/120 base defenses don't make you a wall by any means. It makes you slightly bulky, to the point you can take a hit without dying right on the spot, but you can't wall anything.
Hell, Greninja itself, despite being relatively weak, 2KOs you at 252/4.
>You're also completely ignoring the fact that it gets recover, I can easily build him on def and hp and now it can take physical hits.If you don't recover every turn, you don't end up alive. If you try setting up, that means you didn't recover that turn.
I can't even think of a Pokemon that's slower than 40 base speed and too weak to 2KO.
