For all of us mm'ing out there, how about a support thread? Tell me your stories, how long have you been breeding your pair? What is the most eggs you've had to hatch for your perfect shiny? What's the shortest?
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric)
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric) Fri 29 Nov 2013 05:56:24 No. 16342743 Report I actually just bred this little guy. Took about 18 boxes. Looking to give away some of the better leftovers.
Bro 5155 3367 4712 (Lampent, Drifblim, Phantump)
Bro 5155 3367 4712 (Lampent, Drifblim, Phantump) Fri 29 Nov 2013 06:00:09 No. 16342817 Report Anyone interested in trading male 4-5IV foreign Pokes for maximum egg group breeding?
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
>>16342743 woah, 16 boxes? Dedication. Does he have a hidden abilty?
Anonymous
I finally hatched the Venipede I wanted after 39 boxes a couple days ago. I got one on egg 4 with Swarm, one on egg 271 with Swarm, and then on egg 1169 I got one with Speed Boost. I think my next project will be a Furfrou though I'm not feeling quite up to it yet, I'll give it a few more days.
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
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>>16342817 I don't think I have any 4- 5 IV pokes in honedege's egg group
and I mean, I have hundreds of espurrs with all their abilities (including their hidden ability) with three max iv's if anyone wants those?
>>16342743 (ps I would suggest wonder trading some of those extras, that way you might get some foreign pokes to continue mm)
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric)
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric) Fri 29 Nov 2013 06:03:59 No. 16342897 Report >>16342832 Yeah, took me a while. I started at about 2 PM on Sunday.
And no, but Pressure isn't all that good anyway. If I was planning on building him like a tank, sure. But I wanted a more attack-oriented Bisharp. He has Defiant, but i'm debating on giving him an ability capsule for Inner Focus. Thoughts?
Anonymous
>>16342832 Why you would want Pressure over Defiant on a physical sweeper is beyond me.
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
>>16342872 I have a caught shiny furfrou? Its probably not as ideal as you'd want though
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
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>>16342902 I haven't actually ever looked at pawniard for competitive play, I wasn't even sure what his HA was. Just asking, I don't memorize every HA
Anonymous
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>>16342904 I'll probably be trying to breed IVs and natures into it, but thanks for the offer!
Anonymous
I feel bad for asking this but is the Masuda method breeding with a pokemon from another region for an increased chance at a shiny? Does the parents holding items affect the chance?
Ahotornado 2251-5225-3657 (panpour, wartortle, azumarill)
Ahotornado 2251-5225-3657 (panpour, wartortle, azumarill) Fri 29 Nov 2013 06:07:57 No. 16342983 Report Since i'm new to breeding i was wondering if u guys could help me out.
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric)
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric) Fri 29 Nov 2013 06:08:14 No. 16342989 Report Quoted By:
>>16342957 >is the Masuda method breeding with a pokemon from another region for an increased chance at a shiny? Yes
>Does the parents holding items affect the chance? No
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Masuda_method Alice- 4184 1461 2541
>>16342897 I think Defiant would be more useful if he's a physical sweeper?
>>16342957 yes, if you have a poke from another region, plus your own (or even a second region) your odd are down to 1/400 ish for a shiny poke. Each egg has equal chance, so its not like a pokeradar.
Destiny knot is useful if you are iv breeding
as well as any power items
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
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>>16342983 what's the words the breeder uses? If they don't like each other, they will still breed, it just means they are different pokemon breeds, with the same trainer id
Anonymous
>>16342983 They should still produce eggs. The guy will say they don't get along though. They'll produce eggs at a slower rate than if it were two Dragonites or something though.
Alex-5472-6985-7027 bug (Combee, Beautifly, Pinsir)
Alex-5472-6985-7027 bug (Combee, Beautifly, Pinsir) Fri 29 Nov 2013 06:11:10 No. 16343056 Report >>16342743 I'll take one with defiant for a 4 IV timid natural cure Roselia with sleep powder, if you're interested, female please
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
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>>16343039 he's right. The best possible breed pair would be two pokes, of the same species, different trainer id's. (and one should be foreign if you're trying to mm)
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric)
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric) Fri 29 Nov 2013 06:14:16 No. 16343115 Report >>16343056 Sounds great! Added you. These pawniards all have sucker punch, by the way. Hope that's okay!
harry 3883 5745 3293 (ghost:shuppet,phantump,driftblim) {3220}
harry 3883 5745 3293 (ghost:shuppet,phantump,driftblim) {3220} Fri 29 Nov 2013 06:15:03 No. 16343127 Report Quoted By:
>eggs receive their language flag when accepted from the day-care man >can't give a foreign guy an egg with decent IVs to hatch for you as your MM stud
Alex-5472-6985-7027 bug (Combee, Beautifly, Pinsir)
Alex-5472-6985-7027 bug (Combee, Beautifly, Pinsir) Fri 29 Nov 2013 06:15:14 No. 16343133 Report Quoted By:
>>16343115 That sounds awesome. Adding you now.
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
>>16343115 I'd like one too, if that's alright? what would you like? I have Ada tech scythers, I have HA eevees, HA Bagons, HA vulpixs, Ada Intimidate growlithes... oh and timid infil spiritombs
Anonymous
>>16342995 >1/400 ish On Bulbapedia it says the odds are about 1/1638.
Is your number from personal reference or is there another site.
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric)
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric) Fri 29 Nov 2013 06:18:39 No. 16343208 Report >>16343163 I'll take anything, really. But a vulpix would be nice, since I don't have one on my dex yet. Adding you in a minute.
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
>>16343186 uh that might be numbers for last gen, I heard that the rate now is 1 in about 400 through MMing let e see if I can find a link
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
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>>16343217 okay, I might be totally wrong, so if I am sorry. I could have sworn I read that the rates were dropped because finding a shiny in the wild was cut in half, so I guess I thought that meant breeding too
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric)
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric) Fri 29 Nov 2013 06:23:04 No. 16343305 Report >>16343208 Okaaaay, added. Any specifics you want for your pawniard?
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
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>>16343305 hmm not really, I appreciate you letting me have one.
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
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>>16343186 this is what I think I was going off of, still off in the number I remember, but here's the link:
http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/60943/t1927027-masuda-method-random-shiny-rate/ Alice- 4184 1461 2541
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>>16343305 I don't see you in my friends list?
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric)
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric) Fri 29 Nov 2013 06:31:40 No. 16343491 Report Quoted By:
>>16343481 No problem, thanks for the vulpix!
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric)
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric) Fri 29 Nov 2013 06:39:37 No. 16343649 Report Quoted By:
Well, okay. I was wonder trading some of those extras away and got a Japanese ditto. Is anyone here in need of one of these for MMing? I'm willing to give it away because already have one.
Anonymous
Does anyone think there is a link between masuda parents and the shiny rate? i.e. There's more chance for a shiny if you have one parent JPN and one ENG than one JPN and a ITA one. I'm curious cuz I scored a shiny on the 6th try with one ENG-ITA pair and now im on the 500th egg with an ENG-JPN and no dice yet
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
>>16343658 I don't think there is any research on it, but maybe its more difficult for the region of the breeder. Like if you have one from ITL and a JPN one but you're from ENG maybe that makes the difference? I have heard others mention it.
Anonymous
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>>16343691 Interesting, hopefully some one can shed some light on this. Google doesn't bring anything to my attention yet.
Anonymous
I have 3 shinies with 5ivs with the correct nature, egg moves, ability, even fucking gender in less than the time I blew breeding boxes of trash trying to get a fucking masuda shiny that would likely be 4iv
Anonymous
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>>16343658 You really can't make any assumptions based on such a small sample. I got one shiny in 4 eggs and later with the same parents went through like 900 eggs without a shiny, that doesn't mean anything.
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
>>16343791 wow, that's pretty awesome actually. I've never really tried to breed regular pokes for a shiny, mostly just to mass produce protean froakies when they were popular
but it did work in getting me two shinys so I guess maybe just luck in the end?
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric)
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric) Fri 29 Nov 2013 06:51:08 No. 16343846 Report Quoted By:
>>16343791 IVs don't mean anything to me, and I prefer to be the OT of my shiny. So, good for you, I guess.
Anonymous
>>16343791 Grats, though most people here probably don't care about your instachecked shinies, they really hold no personal value because you didn't earn them.
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
>>16343850 I'm kinda a newfag at some of the new breeding stuff. I've heard a lot about "instanachecked" what does that mean?
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric)
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric) Fri 29 Nov 2013 06:54:52 No. 16343911 Report Anonymous
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>>16343832 I used the Shiny Value checker, collected about 5+ perfect 5iv pokes of the right gender, then buttered up everyone on reddit that matched any of the values while offering them an extra perfect poke as a gift. One usually responds within an hour, and 20 minutes after that I have my perfect shiny.
The extras Ive traded off for a 5iv of another poke/breeding group I want here on vp
Anonymous
>>16343874 Because shinyness is determined when an egg is hatched based on the eggs shiny value and a trainers shiny value, people check these hidden values with external software called instacheck and find some anon on here with a matching number to their egg, trade it, make them hatch it as shiny and then trade it back. It's really just cheating the mechanic to make things shiny that shouldn't be with zero effort so people who don't like cheating don't really care for it.
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
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>>16343911 hmm I'm not sure if that's more or less work for me. I'm not the most savy with some of this.
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric)
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric) Fri 29 Nov 2013 06:58:04 No. 16343972 Report >>16343939 Pretty much this. Shinies only have the value that you give them, so instachecking kinda ruins their charm, IMO. I don't recommend it, but hey, if you want to turn breeding for that one special 'mon into a factory-style operation, that's your choice.
Anonymous
When breeding for IV's on a sentret I ended up hatching a shiny 2 eggs before a 5 IV'd sentret with the nature I wanted on it. I with it would've waited two eggs...
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
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Has this happened to anyone else? I mean, it wasn't breeding, but I was using the radar for shinies, and the third poke was a shiny but it didn't have the sparkle grass, so I was genuinely shocked when I saw it was shiny.
Anonymous
>>16343977 Ouch, did the shiny come out with any decent IVs or nature at least?
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
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>>16343972 nah, I think i'll stick to the mm, its not so bad, I just wish there was a way for the breeder guy to just put the eggs straight into a box so I don't have to keep picking them up.
Anonymous
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>>16344018 HP and attack. 0 IVs in Speed tho.
Naughty nature as well so it's not completely useless.
She's a little qt. Named her Tubesock like most my Furrets I nickname. Anonymous
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>>16341153 New to MMing. I've been trying to breed for a shiny zubat (5iv, infiltrator) the past few weeks -- I've run out of box space so I've been releasing them as I go after I reached 15 boxes full. Pretty sure I'm 20+ right now -- but funny enough, over the weekend I was trying to breed my friend a 6IV Froakie and by the 3rd box got a 5IV protean shiny. Gave it to her as a gift, but I look at my legion of zubat and weep a little inside. ; _;
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric)
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric) Fri 29 Nov 2013 07:17:24 No. 16344265 Report On another note, does anyone have any good nickname ideas for my shiny pawniard? I was thinking of naming him Rockman but i'm having second thoughts. I was thinking either "Seth" or "Wright" might suit him better...
Anonymous
can anybody clarify what constitutes a foreign pokemon?
Anonymous
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>>16344269 I think people have concluded that the language tag is what makes it 'foreign'. There have been people that own two games and select two different languages that have had success MMing. This stops the potential for being wonder traded a pokemon from your region with a foreign tag and being unsure if it counts or not. Also the language tag is made when the egg is made not hatched too so you can't trade an egg to someone and get them to trade it back for a foreign good IV mon.
Anonymous
>MMing for Golett with HA and good IVs
Alice- 4184 1461 2541
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>>16344401 my sympathies anon
Anonymous
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric)
Angela 3110-5102-2925 (Pachirisu, Stunfisk, Manectric) Fri 29 Nov 2013 07:45:56 No. 16344660 Report Quoted By:
>>16344594 Shit nigga that's perfect.
Anonymous
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I hatched shiny Purrloin yesterday, it's my second shiny and first that I got with Masuda Method. My dream is to get a shiny Ralts with good IVs and right nature so I can use Shiny Mega Gardevoir in competitive (I already have foreign Ditto with right nature, now I just need Ralts with IVs and egg moves).
