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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:30:22 No.16345149 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16345187 >>16345197 >>16347729

I'm just playing battle spot on my 3DS and am SO sick of seeing Water Rat and Smogon Bird. What can I add to my team that I can just pick into either of them? I was thinking of solid rock rhyperior or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:32:50 No.16345187 Report

Quoted By: >>16345315

>>16345149
Aggron has done WONDERS for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:33:03 No.16345192 Report

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if you mean water rabbit, don't most of them run bellyjet which puts them at half health?

You can also pack something with high physical bulk or resists flying to 1/4, then is able to counter back hard

Candeloro 4828 - 4137 - 9567

Candeloro 4828 - 4137 - 9567 Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:33:45 No.16345197 Report

Quoted By: >>16345237

>>16345149
Rotom-W

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:33:49 No.16345199 Report

Quoted By: >>16345216 >>16345224 >>16345235 >>16345248 >>16345280 >>16345284 >>16347830

Why is Talonflame used in the metagame but Charizard is a joke? They should both be undone by their horrendous typing? What's next, aurorus is a feasible sweeper?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:35:13 No.16345216 Report

Quoted By: >>16345234

>>16345199

Why don't you do some fucking research before spouting inane bullshit you fucking retard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:35:46 No.16345224 Report

Quoted By: >>16345276

>>16345199
Well, priority bravebird is pretty bullshit, especially in battle spot where you only get three pokemon each. I haven't found sneaky pebbles as worth it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:35:56 No.16345229 Report

Quoted By: >>16347642

A bunch of my team consists of Fire/Flying resistant Pokemon so I rarely have to see Talonfag's face. Assault Vest Rhyperior is pretty good from what I hear, I just slapped one on mine but haven't tested it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:36:17 No.16345234 Report

Quoted By: >>16345267

>>16345216
I'm not spouting inane bullshit, I'm asking a question - me asking the question IS my research, fuckwit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:36:19 No.16345235 Report

Quoted By: >>16345276

>>16345199

Talonflame has a good ability that makes it worth using.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:36:34 No.16345237 Report

Quoted By: >>16346769

>>16345197
>put talonflame on my team
>they always predonk talonflame and lead with rotom-w

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:37:09 No.16345248 Report

Quoted By: >>16345276 >>16346951

Bulky waters ruin both of them. Namely Smogon Wash

>>16345199
Talonflame sort of doesn't need bulk to set up because it's either forcing switches or running choice band priority to kill itself already anyway. Not to mention this gen barely anyone is running rocks due to the risk of defog being un-blockable while major threats are more planning to stay in this gen than switch.

Charizard was a joke because it served a different role entirely.
Charizard X is nowhere near a joke this gen and gets run as much as any of the other non-overhyped megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:38:35 No.16345267 Report

Quoted By: >>16345290 >>16346867

>>16345234

>What's next, aurorus is a feasible sweeper?
>What's next, aurorus is a feasible sweeper?
>What's next, aurorus is a feasible sweeper?

That's your fucking retard spasm, you retard. You could have asked a question but instead revealed yourself as a fucking idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:39:07 No.16345276 Report

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>>16345248
>>16345235
>>16345224
Thanks for the info, guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:39:13 No.16345280 Report

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>>16345199
Charizard is no longer a joke. Both X and Y (especially X) have great chances at staying OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:39:47 No.16345284 Report

Quoted By: >>16345359

>>16345199
Ice/rock is probably one of the best offensive typings in the game. Especially if they could learn ground moves.
That's both ice/ground and edgequake offense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:40:38 No.16345290 Report

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>>16345267
I am ignorant, which is why I'm asking questions. Be more mad. I wasn't aware of Talonflame's ability, nor was I aware that defog could now clear sneaky stones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:43:02 No.16345315 Report

Quoted By: >>16345329 >>16345341

>>16345187
Really? I'd have thought Talonflame would shit on Aggron still with flare blitz. Will try it though, any other suggestions anyone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:44:21 No.16345329 Report

Quoted By: >>16345338

>>16345315
Filter and his insane bulk means it won't do shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:45:33 No.16345338 Report

Quoted By: >>16345387

>>16345329
Oh! For whatever reason I thought he kept Sturdy upon mega-evolution. Thanks! Will definitely try him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:45:42 No.16345341 Report

Quoted By: >>16345407

>>16345315

With Filter and M-Aggron's insane Defense? Flare Blitz won't make a dent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:47:06 No.16345359 Report

Quoted By: >>16345380

>>16345284
Too bad Gamefreak decided to make yet again a fucking bulky and slow ice type.

Why the fuck Gamefreak has a boner for fucking slow bulky ice types? Jesus fucking Christ. I swear they do it on purpose now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:48:49 No.16345380 Report

Quoted By: >>16345446

>>16345359

Fast and frail Ice-types won't be much better with everyone having Mach Punch or Bullet Punch on their teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:49:04 No.16345387 Report

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>>16345338
With no EV investment in Aggron.

252+ Atk Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Filter Mega Aggron: 114-135 (40.5 - 48%)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:49:04 No.16345388 Report

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Furfrou can take hits pretty well from Talonflame. Unless the fucker is Banded or something, Furfrou can usually come out on top with a few good Returns.

That or Rotom-W, but I didn't want to say Smogon Laundry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:49:29 No.16345395 Report

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Every time I see Smogon Birde, I misread it as Smogon Bride.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:50:18 No.16345407 Report

Quoted By: >>16345443 >>16345445

>>16345341
I mean, it will, because Aggron doesn't recover for shit and has shockingly bad offenses

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:52:04 No.16345425 Report

Quoted By: >>16345443 >>16345474

A physically bulky Gyarados would probably do it, since everyone is sick of that fucking washer

The washer really does have the best typing for it, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:53:57 No.16345443 Report

Quoted By:

>>16345407
>>16345425
I guess I'll go Aggron or Gyarados. I'm not a unique special snowflake that hates everything smogon recommended. But god am I sick of seeing these two, and smogwash

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:54:10 No.16345445 Report

Quoted By: >>16345538

>>16345407
>Aggron doesn't recover for shit

I run RestTalk on mine.

>has shockingly bad offenses

Good enough to OHKO Talonflame with Stone Edge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:54:28 No.16345446 Report

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>>16345380
>It has a weakness so that makes it bad
At least the damn things will be able to do something besides being auto-NU. They would be able to, you know, be able to use the good things of their typing to their advantage instead of it being a liability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:56:50 No.16345474 Report

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>>16345425
My bulky Gyarados would have been 2HKOed by Brave Bird, even AFTER intimidate. He only survived by Mega Evolving for extra balk.

Lanturn is also fucking everywhere, though I've never seen how well it actually works against Talonflame. I just know it's as annoying as crap for everything else.

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Zelphyr/ Blacky 3497-0597-0924 muk, ariados, cascoon [ 1607 ] Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:58:00 No.16345496 Report

Quoted By: >>16345507 >>16345670

this glorious motherfucker has been working wonders for me against both of those...as wells as scizor and blazekin

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 08:59:44 No.16345507 Report

Quoted By: >>16345531 >>16345553 >>16345572

>>16345496
Do Water/Ground take x4 damage from Freeze Dry?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 09:02:33 No.16345531 Report

Quoted By:

>>16345507
Probably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 09:03:10 No.16345538 Report

Quoted By: >>16345594

>>16345445
How does RestTalk work on him? I have a shiny Aggron but I can't figure out a good set for him.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 09:04:29 No.16345553 Report

Quoted By:

>>16345507
As does Water/Flying.
My team got buttblasted by a fucking Vanniluxe with Freeze Dry. Move is fucking insane.
rip in peace gyarados

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Zelphyr/ Blacky 3497-0597-0924 muk, ariados, cascoon [ 1607 ] Fri 29 Nov 2013 09:06:08 No.16345572 Report

Quoted By:

>>16345507
sure does unfortunately but nothing is as satisfying as watching someone try to out pace your curse with swords dance while you're unaware

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 09:07:33 No.16345594 Report

Quoted By:

>>16345538
Also have a shiny aggron I'm using
Been running him a lot lately to see what he can do. Though I do make some bad calls, I'm new to competitive this gen.

I run
Stealth Rock
T-wave
Earthquake
Iron head

With max hp and def. he does shit in some battles, awesome in others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 09:14:20 No.16345670 Report

Quoted By: >>16345705 >>16345758 >>16346167 >>16346843 >>16346928

>>16345496
I actually quite like the idea of this, what are you running? I was thinking

Quagsie @ Leftovers
Bold - Unaware
-Curse
-Recover
-Waterfall
-Earthquake

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Zelphyr/ Blacky 3497-0597-0924 muk, ariados, cascoon [ 1607 ] Fri 29 Nov 2013 09:18:48 No.16345705 Report

Quoted By: >>16345732

>>16345670
literally exactly what i'm running except mine is careful and 252hp 252spd with the left over ev's in def although when the bank opens up i'm bringing my ice punch quag back

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 09:20:07 No.16345725 Report

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For me I use Bulky Magnezone to counter them with Ricky helmet. In the process of training an Aggron now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 09:20:53 No.16345732 Report

Quoted By:

>>16345705
Sorry, forgot to add EV's but those were what I was planning.
Might make this later tonight if I have a friend safari with them in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 09:22:48 No.16345758 Report

Quoted By: >>16345774

>>16345670
Run Scald over waterfall. Quagsire appreciates burns like nobody's business. Especially in this metagame.

Run -speed in that case even if you aren't out to do damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 09:24:21 No.16345774 Report

Quoted By: >>16345824 >>16346059

>>16345758
I suppose that makes sense, without being able to look it up at the moment; can scald burn fire types? Also is it really worth running curse if you're running a set with only one physical move?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 09:28:33 No.16345824 Report

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>>16345774

Nope. Fire-type are immune to burn.

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Zelphyr/ Blacky 3497-0597-0924 muk, ariados, cascoon [ 1607 ] Fri 29 Nov 2013 10:04:22 No.16346059 Report

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>>16345774
if you're just running 1 physical move i wouldn't bother with curse, hence why i go EQ and waterfall

also i should have some extra males with curse and recover if you want one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 10:14:26 No.16346167 Report

Quoted By: >>16346824

>>16345670
Curse on Unaware?
for what purpose?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 11:29:12 No.16346769 Report

Quoted By:

>>16345237
no, they lead with rotom, smogonfags always play that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 11:36:44 No.16346824 Report

Quoted By:

>>16346167
>noobs boost because they're unaware of its ability.
>I boost too.
>They barely do damage.
>wtf r u hakin
>sweep team with final form Quasire
Its like if you've never used one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 11:39:40 No.16346843 Report

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>>16345670

Why Bold and not Relaxed? He's pretty slow to begin with so he's always moving last anyway, may as well deduct the IVs from Speed instead of Attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 11:41:37 No.16346867 Report

Quoted By:

>>16345267
>this autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 11:49:26 No.16346928 Report

Quoted By:

>>16345670

I run Stockpile instead of Curse to turn him into a tank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 11:54:51 No.16346951 Report

Quoted By: >>16346999

>>16345248
Countering one OU pokemon with something even more popular

oh, the irony

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 12:01:25 No.16346999 Report

Quoted By:

>>16346951
Welcome to OU, where everything is overused haha the irony :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 13:17:37 No.16347546 Report

Quoted By:

Mandibuzz with Foul Play

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 13:31:55 No.16347642 Report

Quoted By:

>>16345229
Why would you use assault vest rhyperior?

eviolite rhydon is better

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 13:36:27 No.16347682 Report

Quoted By: >>16347704

So what's the best build for curse unaware quagsire.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 13:40:32 No.16347704 Report

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>>16347682
waterfall(ice punch for when pokebank comes out)
EQ
Curse
Recover

Gear !!8NwjRFpF6q1

Gear !!8NwjRFpF6q1 Fri 29 Nov 2013 13:44:23 No.16347729 Report

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>>16345149

Entrainment and Skill Swap sets fuck up a lot of people using Talon and Azumarill. Though for some reason GF decided Stance Change couldn't be altered or suppressed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 13:58:34 No.16347830 Report

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>>16345199
Char Y sweep my team the other day with its fucking Drought and its insanely hight SpAtk Solar Beam.

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