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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:39:35 No.16350700 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16350922 >>16350980 >>16351012 >>16351593 >>16351801 >>16352141 >>16352706 >>16352760 >>16352869 >>16352963

Why are the rivals that aren't Blue or Silver so shitty? They don't even give you reason to want to beat them the fuck up like Blue or Silver did, let alone be a rival. What would you like to see in the next gen rivals?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:41:25 No.16350734 Report

Quoted By: >>16351562

Because you'd prefer assholes to friends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:41:56 No.16350751 Report

Quoted By: >>16350776 >>16350894 >>16351139

>conveniently leave out Hugh
I want nostalgiafags to leave

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:43:45 No.16350776 Report

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>>16350751
Hugh's party is fucking terrible, the worst rival battle-wise worse than Gen III and Gen VI combined.

His party is HALF of what Cheren's is from B/W, and he has only three Pokemon until Victory Road, all he gets is Bouffalant. No full party until post-game.

Hugh is wasted potential of the century.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:44:40 No.16350791 Report

Quoted By: >>16350884

I don't get some people's hard on for Blue. He's pretty one-dimensional. At least Silver had some father issues. And a really awesome theme.

I hope the next rivals have some depth. That applies to most major characters too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:49:19 No.16350855 Report

Quoted By: >>16350885 >>16351070

I always liked Wally a lot. yes he was a fool in a hurry. but he did his own thing his own way, not wanting to use dad's connections to get to where he wanted to be. He ran towards his goal and he was a true friend and rival to ya

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:51:08 No.16350884 Report

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>>16350791
I think being one-dimensional is understandable for being the first Pokemon game, he's just there to be annoying and piss you off so you want to defeat him, that together with the whole concept of "I beat all the gym leaders before you, look at my name on that sign" and the fact that at the time, the game acted like "hey, congratulations, you beat Elite 4! Oh, sorry, that annoying kid got here before you". That alone was reason for us to want to defeat him all the time so badly, while I feel sorry for rivals from Gen III onwards, especially now in Gen IV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:51:11 No.16350885 Report

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>>16350855
*BARRY.

Wally is a sweet guy tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:51:48 No.16350894 Report

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>>16350751
hugh a shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:52:14 No.16350901 Report

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>not wanting to beat the shit out of Barry

His team wasn't half bad too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:53:57 No.16350922 Report

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>>16350700
But Barry and Cheren/Bianca are objectively the best rivals and Hugh was never a rival to begin with, he was your bro.

Why are you so shitty OP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:54:20 No.16350928 Report

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I would totally fuck Bianca. That's a big plus she has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:54:50 No.16350935 Report

Quoted By: >>16350998

What the fuck? I say this exact thread a couple weeks ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:55:02 No.16350939 Report

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Barry>Cheren>Blue>Silver>Wally>Hugh

Cheren's high up there because while his team sucked, he had a goal and actually had development throughout the game. And he was cool in B2/W2.
Bianca's not on there because she's not really a rival IMO, but I'd probably put her tied with Cheren.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:56:12 No.16350975 Report

Quoted By: >>16351049 >>16351055

>I AM THE RIVAL. I AM THE BEST RIVAL IN THE ENTIRE GAME I AM BETTER THAN THE SHAUNA AND THE TIERNO COMBINED

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:56:28 No.16350980 Report

Quoted By: >>16351035

>>16350700
>didn't add Brendan
Either way, Blue wasn't really that great, honestly. A lot of stuff that blue did is rather exaggerated, but he was a good rival.
Silver was a good established rival.
R/S/E didn't really have a rival, because they tried to get wally and the opposite gender choice to both do it, and it didn't work out.
Barry was great, though. It was nice that they gave you a double battle with him, since it showed you just how much progress he's gone through
Cheren and Bianca have the same problem with R/S/E, trying to get them both in, though at least you could battle them more often.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:57:05 No.16350998 Report

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>>16350935
saw*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:57:33 No.16351012 Report

Quoted By: >>16351040 >>16351080

>>16350700
I hate the fact that faggots always remove N from these and Champ lists despite him being a member of both archetypes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:58:53 No.16351035 Report

Quoted By: >>16351092

>>16350980
Brendan/May were garbage though anyway, so he doesn't have to acknowledge them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 17:59:16 No.16351040 Report

Quoted By: >>16351073

>>16351012
N is not a rival.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:00:20 No.16351049 Report

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>>16350975
He actually is though, to be honest.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:00:34 No.16351055 Report

Quoted By: >>16352730

>>16350975
For some reason, I end up playing fair by losing to her first before giving an asswooping comeback.

How pathetic am I?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:00:42 No.16351058 Report

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I'd say Barry is the best, and Cheren/Bianca are second afterwards and fulfill the "friends traveling with you" role while still having their own personalities pretty excellently, something XY's "friends" failed spectacularly at. I'd put Blue at third though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:01:30 No.16351070 Report

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>>16350855
They always talked about Wally being sick. For some reason as a kid in my mind, Wally had cancer...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:01:43 No.16351073 Report

Quoted By: >>16351113

>>16351040
This is bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:01:47 No.16351075 Report

Quoted By: >>16351127 >>16351252 >>16351295 >>16352257 >>16352718 >>16357825

The rival has to be an expression of some personality flaw associated with training. That's why they need to lose at the end, to show that that flaw is self destructive in the end. Blue was a cocky piece of shit who only wanted to be the best and Silver had no respect for his pokemon. Cheren I think sort of embodied this, in that he couldn't coincide his theoretical knowledge with practical knowledge. But May/Bianca/Serena were all fucking angels who never did anything wrong. Why the fuck did they have to exist? Why is the character better than them? Why couldn't THEY be champion other than arbitrary "Oh the player is just magically better than me"? Those rivals serve no purpose except for muh patterns. They're uninspired and don't reinforce any points the plot is trying to make. That is why they're such bad characters, because Gamefreak can't into basic plot devices. What the fuck is the point of having a character if they have literally zero characterization?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:02:08 No.16351080 Report

Quoted By: >>16351101 >>16351180

>>16351012
N wasn't a rival though, he's more like the, "Evil Team Leader" archetype, even though Black/White also had Ghetsis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:02:43 No.16351092 Report

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>>16351035
Garbage or not, they're still placed as rivals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:03:17 No.16351101 Report

Quoted By: >>16351132 >>16351180

>>16351080
He was the rival in every respect except for not having a starter, and we've had quite a few rivals now that don't have starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:03:52 No.16351113 Report

Quoted By: >>16351134

>>16351073
Bulbapedia proves you wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:04:41 No.16351126 Report

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>Liking Silver
Oh boy here come the Johtodicksucking brigade.
>I HATE WEAK PEOPLE I HATE WEAK POKEMON I HATE WEAKLINGS LIKE YOU THAT I STILL LOSE TO
He was a raging edgy teenager with daddy problems. His character could have been redeemed if he took over as Team Rocket's leader, but instead he had to be big faggot and start listening to Linkin Park when daddy left.
Barry may have been hyper but at least he actually had a personality and a good team.
If anything
Blue = Barry > Cheren > Shauna = Bianca > Calem/Serena > Hugh > Silver > Wally/Brendan/May

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:04:43 No.16351127 Report

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>>16351075
Serena was naive as fuck during the Lysandre farce

Then again, anything but Looker's sidestory is irrelevant because they're shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:05:02 No.16351132 Report

Quoted By: >>16351142

>>16351101
>THE rival
Look man it's okay if you don't like Cheren, but you don't have to undermine him like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:05:20 No.16351134 Report

Quoted By: >>16351220 >>16351253

>>16351113
Right, because wikis are credible sources.

He's roughly the same age as the player, you fight him multiple times over the course of the story, and he's a recurring character who you have some kind of conflict with.

That is exactly what rivals are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:05:43 No.16351139 Report

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>>16350751
Hugh isn't a rival either. He's that dumbfuck friend that gets you into deep shit that you have to get yourself out of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:06:23 No.16351142 Report

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>>16351132
No, sorry, I meant "a." I actually think Cheren and Bianca were great too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:06:26 No.16351144 Report

Quoted By: >>16351191

>there are people who consider Shauna a rival

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:08:41 No.16351180 Report

Quoted By: >>16351215

>>16351080
>>16351101

I don't think we was the team leader archetype or the rival archetype. He's pretty much an anti-hero, which is something unique to pokemon. I guess you could say he was a rival, but the fact that his presence in the game was unlike anything seen before, and that you already had two rivals, I wouldn't count him as one personally.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:09:14 No.16351191 Report

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>>16351144
She's a non-entity to anybody with a speck of IQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:10:35 No.16351215 Report

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>>16351180
He was kind of like Eusine, except actually important

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:10:59 No.16351220 Report

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>>16351134
He is also one of the main bosses of the evil team. That's his role.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:13:08 No.16351252 Report

Quoted By: >>16351736

>>16351075
>>16351075
Where's Barry in all this? What was his flaw? That he didn't think things through?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:13:10 No.16351253 Report

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>>16351134
I kind of think of N as more of an anti-hero than a rival. He has good intentions, but goes about it all the wrong ways and is just manipulated by the real bad guy. It's not really an archetype used in Pokemon.

I also thought he was decently older than the Protagonist, but I may be wrong.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:16:15 No.16351295 Report

Quoted By: >>16351736

>>16351075
>The rival has to be an expression of some personality flaw associated with training.
You're right, yet still so wrong.
The thing about May and Bianca(haven't played gen 6 yet) is that they just weren't cut out to be trainers. Which is why Bianca ends up being an aide to Juniper and May is just there to help out her father with the pokedex.
Then there's Barry, who doesn't really have a flaw in training, he's just not as good as you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:16:58 No.16351310 Report

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Colress is the best rival.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:20:23 No.16351373 Report

Quoted By: >>16351420

Wally COULD have been amazing but he just ends up as Wasted Potential: The Rival. He's still better than Brendan/May who are just the ultimate in shit though.

Barry, Silver, and Bianca are the best rivals because they have actual growth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:23:23 No.16351420 Report

Quoted By: >>16351488 >>16352454

>>16351373
I don't know, I like that Wally developed as a character from a sickly kid to a powerful trainer in his own right. Would've been nice to see more of that transition though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:23:38 No.16351427 Report

Quoted By: >>16351457

>Blue switches his team around to some extent, picks what were good pokemon at the time, barring maybe Pidgeot, has a full team
>Bianca and Cheren have four guys, will only ever have four guys until you beat the game, and they include one of the fucking monkeys and guys from the first few routes
>same shit with Serena

I don't even like Blue that much, but come on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:24:47 No.16351442 Report

Quoted By: >>16351523

>Barry
>bad
Are you fucking kidding me? The only rival that is also the only NPC trainer other than Red to have a full party of six Pokémon over level 80?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:25:30 No.16351456 Report

Quoted By: >>16351511 >>16351604 >>16351621 >>16351631 >>16351677 >>16351759 >>16351761 >>16351852 >>16352261 >>16352332 >>16352935

Out of curiousity, what would be your ideal rival?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:25:36 No.16351457 Report

Quoted By: >>16351509

>>16351427
There's still N, but his status as a Rival is being debated as seen here in this thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:27:06 No.16351488 Report

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>>16351420
Exactly. There was a good idea behind him, but it just wasn't executed very well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:27:58 No.16351509 Report

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>>16351457

Well even he never uses six before you fight him in the castle, and then it's NFE guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:28:00 No.16351511 Report

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>>16351456
An annoying ass who grows up to be somewhat decent and finishes up with a full team of tough pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:28:40 No.16351523 Report

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>>16351442
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Red_(game)#Trivia
>Until the release of Pokémon Platinum, Red's party in Generation II featured the highest-leveled opponent Pokémon a player could face outside of battle arenas such as the Pokémon Stadium series and the Battle Frontier, with his Pikachu at level 81, beating the wild Arceus found at the Hall of Origin by one level. In Pokémon Platinum, Barry's party received a boost in level, putting his starter Pokémon at level 85, while wild Magikarp can be found in the Resort Area at levels as high as 100, the maximum possible. Due to Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver giving Red's party a level boost as well, with his Pikachu topping at level 88, Red recovered his status as the highest-leveled Trainer opponent. Benga on Challenge Mode however is a close second with a Level 85 on all 3 of his Pokemon. His levels are tied with Barry's on the weekend battles after beating the Champion 30 times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:30:50 No.16351561 Report

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with rivals now a days, they're so tame. after gold and silver, i hated all the rivals because they were so easy. i remember having the hardest time trying to beat gary or whatever, probably because i was young and new to it, but still, there's barely any challenge to them now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:30:52 No.16351562 Report

Quoted By: >>16352065

>>16350734
Blue/green wasn't an asshole though, he was your friend. He was fairly snobbish sometimes, but that's about it.
Why people call that bad is beyond me. it fires up the competition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:31:50 No.16351593 Report

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>>16350700
>Not liking Barry

At least he wasn't a high-on-friendship faggit. His dad could've made him a Frontier Brain, or a fucking Gym Leader, but Barry gave him the middle finger and said "fuck the easy route" and decided to go on a journey against you. Barry would talk A LOT of shit and his annoying ass fining obsession was what gave me the desire to fuck him up.

Barry is he only unique rival because unlike everyone else, he was your friend and also a major asshole, plus his dad was the fucking Battle Tower Leader, holy shit

>b-but m-muh greatest Professor's grandson

Eat shit, Blue was as one-dimensional as you could get. Glad he was fixed two years later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:32:24 No.16351604 Report

Quoted By: >>16352452 >>16356178

>>16351456
Not necessarily the ideal, but for a rival I really want to see would have a Wally type set-up where you help inspire some kid in an early town to become a strong trainer. Then throughout the game they constantly trail right behind you and challenge you to try and prove their growth by being able to beat the trainer they idolize.

At the end of the game, there's no acting Champion in the region, so when you beat the Elite Four you become the Champion. But before you can enter the Hall of Fame room, the rival comes bursting in, being just a few steps behind you as always, and challenges you for the Championship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:33:13 No.16351621 Report

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>>16351456

They got it right both with Blue and Silver, but I'd like to see different things happen depending on whether you lose to them or not (Yellow sort of did that, but it just wasn't enough).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:33:44 No.16351631 Report

Quoted By: >>16351680

>>16351456
A fusion of Barry and Blue
A man with burning passion, similar and differing ideals and fiery energy all around. He also has a formidable team to back him up. He has the Gen's Pseudo in his team in his second battle, first form of course .

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:36:04 No.16351677 Report

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>>16351456
Barry

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:36:16 No.16351680 Report

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>>16351631
Did Barry and Blue show any growth? Blue just gets told off by his grandfather at the end, and Barry, unless I'm forgetting something, is just as hyper annoying as he is in the first scene he shows up where I just wanted to throttle him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:38:55 No.16351736 Report

Quoted By: >>16352425

>>16351252

He had no flaw. He was literally the same person ethically as you, and double teams Team Galactic with you. That's why he's a bad rival, because there was no non-arbitrary reason that he's not as good as you. (Although I haven't played Sinnoh in a while so he might have had some well developed flaw that I can't remember.) He's still a fun and cool character in terms of the series, though.

>>16351295
I can see the point about Bianca not being cut out to be a trainer. But unlike Bianca who had been completely characterized to not be a good trainer, May had no reason to lose. She was the professor's daughter and was portrayed as a competent trainer throughout the game (I'm pretty sure she was ahead of you for the most part.) There's nothing to say that she wasn't cut out to be a trainer, because she was. She was just arbitrarily bad and was worse than you for no reason. That's why she's a bad rival.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:39:59 No.16351759 Report

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>>16351456
He can have any personality he wants, that really doesn't matter.

What matters is the fear of fighting him. He has to have a team that isn't just a pushover, and he has to appear often enough.
I never cared if I randomly run into my rivals since Gen V, because even if I only have 1 Pokemon on low HP left, I would probably win without much effort. Rivals were treated like a normal NPC fight, just with more than 2 Pokemon in their team.

That's why people like the first 2 gens, and Gen IVs Rivals. They were not just another fight, they were actual challenges, to some extend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:40:09 No.16351761 Report

Quoted By: >>16351791

>>16351456
Just somebody with a personality. Brendan/May and Serena/Calem were the worst about this, but all they do is show up, fight, talk about how much they love Pokemon and then leave.

Also, a full fucking team before the Elite 4. It just seems ridiculous to me to challenge the Pokemon League with only like 4 Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:42:12 No.16351791 Report

Quoted By: >>16351892

>>16351761
>It just seems ridiculous to me to challenge the Pokemon League with only like 4 Pokemon.
I do this all the time. It's easier to grind and level up a team of 4 than it is a team of 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:42:32 No.16351801 Report

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>>16350700
>What would you like to see in the next gen rivals?
Friends with good teams.
A friendly competition is much better than a guy that gets on your nerves and has 0 personality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:44:52 No.16351852 Report

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>>16351456

Someone who thinks they're doing the right thing throughout the series but is obviously wrong. Then at the end you beat them and show them the error of their ways. They don't have to be and asshole or evil, but they have to have some sort of wrong/immoral perception or personality trait.

It goes without saying that they have a tough team too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:46:59 No.16351892 Report

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>>16351791
Yeah but you're at least at pretty high levels then? Rival characters that don't have six Pokemon by the Elite Four tend to also have under leveled Pokemon for the challenge, which makes even less sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:47:54 No.16351909 Report

Quoted By: >>16351932

Silver is a shitty rival.

Blue and Barry are the best ones with Cheren at a good 3rd because he works as a rival who knows and reacts to being on the constantly losing side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:49:25 No.16351932 Report

Quoted By: >>16351980 >>16352030

>>16351909
>blue
>best
In what universe?

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:51:18 No.16351980 Report

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>>16351932
The universe of him actually making fucking champion.

Team is shit if we're talking real competitively but it works as his in game role as a glorified ace trainer by the time you get to the E4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:53:35 No.16352030 Report

Quoted By: >>16352062

>>16351932
in a universe where people don't just hate him because of his personality.

He was a challenge everytime you faced him, and you never knew when he appeared.
Ergo: Got Rival.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:54:38 No.16352062 Report

Quoted By: >>16352138 >>16352173 >>16352213

>>16352030
>He was a challenge everytime you faced him
He was never a challenge, he was literally an annoyance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:54:44 No.16352065 Report

Quoted By: >>16352138 >>16352154

>>16351562
What.

No he wasn't. He wasn't your friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:58:20 No.16352138 Report

Quoted By: >>16352168 >>16352185 >>16352311

>>16352065
Yes he was. Did you not play the games?
He doesn't even insult you or anything, all he says is Smell you later. Dunno why /vp/ thinks that makes him an asshole.

>>16352062
You tell me how well that encounter at the Nugget bridge went.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:58:28 No.16352141 Report

Quoted By: >>16352207

>>16350700
Blue worked great. I liked Silver and Wally, but Wally wasn't even as much of a rival as May/Brendan, so I don't know why you are using him. Barry was the best example of a friend rival, totally the kind of person that felt like a childhood friend (not your dick neighbor) that you still want to have a rivalry with.

Barry=Blue>Silver>>Calem/Serena>>May/Brendan

Wally doesn't even count.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:59:15 No.16352154 Report

Quoted By: >>16352311

>>16352065
People seem to have this fuddled idea that a rival can't also be your friend. Blue wasn't necessarily your bro4lyfe, but you guys grew up together, played together, became trainers together. He was also always a rival. Not a bully, but a kid you were equals with and had a competitive streak with. His personality always made him think he was better than you, and it was clear that his skill allowed him to move ahead of you faster in the League. So you rivaled him in that your skill was obviously on par with him and that you were (presumably) more modest than he was. That's what sets him apart from being just a villain-like rival.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 18:59:43 No.16352168 Report

Quoted By: >>16352189 >>16352209

>>16352138
>You tell me how well that encounter at the Nugget bridge went.

>admitting that you suck at pokemon
The nugget bridge battle wasn't a tough battle at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:00:06 No.16352173 Report

Quoted By: >>16352191

>>16352062
Nigger, none of the rivals are actually challenging.
Team wise, Blue and Barry were the better ones by comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:00:53 No.16352185 Report

Quoted By: >>16352226

>>16352138
If you weren't an idiot and went straight for the pokemon center after getting out of Mt. Moon you deserve whatever Blue did to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:01:00 No.16352189 Report

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>>16352168
He was obviously more of a challenge than other trainers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:01:20 No.16352191 Report

Quoted By: >>16352251

>>16352173
Blue had a terrible team though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:02:10 No.16352207 Report

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>>16352141
Barry>Blue, actually. Blue worked well as a rival but was too two dimensional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:02:16 No.16352209 Report

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>>16352168
Just because you managed to beat him, doesn't mean it wasn't a challenge.
As soon as the Rival makes you think, instead of spam your best move or switch for weakness, he does his job.

Also, if you just run around with your Starter at lvl 50 while everything else in your team dumps around at 20, discussing with you is pointless.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:02:31 No.16352213 Report

Quoted By: >>16352249 >>16352300 >>16352311

>>16352062
You say that now but when you first played there's no doubt in my mind you had trouble with him

Just like every other person

I don't get why people act like they were such superior players when they were kids. When everyone played Pokemom Red, Blue, or Yellow to the first time, you had trouble against Blue. It's not that we all suck, it's that he appeared at the worst of times and would fuck you over if you weren't prepared which most of us weren't. You didn't expect to run into Blue where he did appear I mean really, who actually expected to see Blue near Victory Road at the beginning of the game? Like what the fuck.

There's no denying it. You had trouble, I had trouble, and so did everyone else. Stop acting like you were some gaming god when you were younger because you were just as oblivious as the rest of us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:03:12 No.16352226 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352185
Jeez I need to stop changing my mind mid-sentence.

>If you were an idiot and didn't head straight for the pokemon center after getting out of Mt. Moon you deserve whatever Blue did to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:04:09 No.16352249 Report

Quoted By: >>16352346

>>16352213
>You say that now but when you first played there's no doubt in my mind you had trouble with him
You're assuming I'm the same age as you are and that pokemon was my first RPG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:04:17 No.16352251 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352191
Better than the shit cheren, bianca, wally, and silver had.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:04:37 No.16352257 Report

Quoted By: >>16352418 >>16352518 >>16352552 >>16352701

>>16351075
Yeah, this was my major problem with Serena. Fairly flat character, and I had no reason to want to beat them, and kind of felt bad for crushing them, just because I'm better. Rivals should have a flaw or really anything that doesn't make you feel so bad about crushing their dreams. Wally was the worst offender on this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:04:49 No.16352261 Report

Quoted By: >>16352335

>>16351456

A shit-talking chucklefuck that uses the most sadistic team set-ups imaginable, and insults your battling strategies and taste in Pokemon at every possible opportunity.
I'd especially like this if his/her AI wasn't shit and he/she was challenging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:06:52 No.16352300 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352213

Haha, I've been through similar discussions. Everyone here was fucking Lance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:07:31 No.16352311 Report

Quoted By: >>16352381 >>16352429 >>16352436

>>16352213
I never had trouble in RBY nor in GSC and those were my first games. And I was training only a starter.

>>16352154
>>16352138
But he wasn't your friend. Just because you did things together doesn't mean you are friends. He was a tryhard asshole who likes to look smug as you trash him.

I'm not saying that friends can't be rivals. The best representation of that is Barry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:08:26 No.16352327 Report

Quoted By: >>16352369

Barry wasnt a bad rival.

While he was your friend he still wanted to beat your ass not be your bitch. He was ahead of you on the game, always beating the gym leaders and shit. He just was a more friendly than Blue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:08:37 No.16352332 Report

Quoted By:

>>16351456
I've already have an ideal rival...
This fucking board is my rival, geddit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:08:53 No.16352335 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352261

Oh, and every time you screw up and give the rival an opening, he taunts you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:08:55 No.16352336 Report

Quoted By: >>16352393

how can the dude be silver when i was silver?
wtf dood.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:09:14 No.16352346 Report

Quoted By: >>16352675

>>16352249
>implying

Not in anyway did I implicate that. Pokemon is in no way just any RPG and playing the first game of the series for the first time and thinking just because you played different RPGs before you know what to expect is he wrong way of going with things.

My first RPG was Chrono Trigger when I was 7, but those skills in CT didn't transfer over to Red because Pokemon Red was an entirely different type of RPG

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:10:12 No.16352369 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352327
Barry is really the best rival.
He got swept under the rug with diamond/pearl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:10:29 No.16352381 Report

Quoted By: >>16352438

>>16352311
>First games
>RBY
>Solo-run with only starter
>Wasn't hard

You're a fucking liar, either that or you had a shit ton of potions

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:10:57 No.16352393 Report

Quoted By: >>16352416 >>16352462

>>16352336
It's a ruse. Everyone knows his real name is ???

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:12:01 No.16352416 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352393

Matt 4356 0076 5050

Matt 4356 0076 5050 Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:12:08 No.16352418 Report

Quoted By: >>16352450 >>16352455

>>16352257
>fairly flat character

She's at least a B-cup nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:12:29 No.16352425 Report

Quoted By:

>>16351736
Barry had a huge flaw.

He was always on the move and had not patience. He was immature thinking all you need to succeed is to just go fast. I think he learned to slow a bit down, after all you were the first to reach the Pokemon League. He was behind you, something he never did before that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:12:41 No.16352429 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352311
>solo run
>first game
>no trouble

Either you are lying or you were that kid that grinded on the first route until your starter could sweep everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:13:10 No.16352436 Report

Quoted By: >>16352471

>>16352311
>solo'd your starter on your first run of RBY and it wasn't hard

That's ridiculous. I'd imagine you spammed potions a lot but even then I can't imagine anyone not having a hard time in RBY with just their starter and it's their first game ever, especially against Sabrina.

Andy 3566-2567-2841

Andy 3566-2567-2841 Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:13:13 No.16352438 Report

Quoted By: >>16352461

>>16352381
You can solo with Blastoise pretty easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:13:43 No.16352450 Report

Quoted By: >>16352536

>>16352418
Wait, how can Serena have pokeballs on her chest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:13:44 No.16352452 Report

Quoted By:

>>16351604
I like this idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:13:50 No.16352454 Report

Quoted By:

>>16351420
Pretty much.

He seemed like an after thought.

They should have had him show more in the game. He only shows like 3 times. The first time you catch his Pokemon, the second one he is a pathetic trainer with his Ralts and the last battle might have been another character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:13:51 No.16352455 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352418
hue

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:14:11 No.16352461 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352438
>Sabrina
>Erika
>Fucking Lance

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:14:14 No.16352462 Report

Quoted By: >>16352537

>>16352393
mfw he was actually called ??? for me and i thought he will tell me his name later on.
i don't remember being able to name him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:15:05 No.16352471 Report

Quoted By: >>16352565

>>16352436
If you're solo-ing, your Charizard/Blastoise/Venusaur is like twenty levels above her pokemon. Solo-runs are joke-mode.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:17:37 No.16352518 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352257
The twist is you're the rival all along
How's that taste of power going, goy?

Matt 4356 0076 5050

Matt 4356 0076 5050 Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:18:45 No.16352536 Report

Quoted By: >>16352577

>>16352450
Well you can only fit so many in that bag, and since she's wearing a skirt it's not like she could put them up it...oh my

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:18:52 No.16352537 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352462
But you can. And the name Silver comes from the fact that, in Generation II, "SILVER" (シルバー) is automatically attributed as his name in Gold and Crystal if the player leaves the name field blank. In Silver, the game instead calls him "GOLD" (ゴールド).

Granted this is not a valid source since Crystal only calls him the same thing as Gold due to it being developed using Gold's code, not Silver's (this is also why the unused Super Game Boy border in Crystal has the Japanese Gold's border text).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:19:37 No.16352552 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352257
I don't feel bad for crushing some weakass chump who keeps wasting my time with challenges.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:20:15 No.16352565 Report

Quoted By: >>16352608 >>16352648 >>16353035 >>16353647

>>16352471
Still, the Elite Four are incredibly hard with just your starters.

Bruno and Big Tits WILL fuck up Charizard

Agatha and Big Tits WILL fuck up Venusaur

And Lance will destroy all three of the. You cannot get past two fucking Dragonairs and a Dragonite with just your starter, especially if it's your first game evr

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:20:39 No.16352577 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352536
>yfw Serena's a flat-chested loli

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:23:04 No.16352608 Report

Quoted By: >>16352651

>>16352565
Sure you can. You just Flamethrower everything to death and Slash everything that's not weak to Fire. And you Flamethrower both Onix to death because their special is so shitty you'll still one-shot them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:25:11 No.16352648 Report

Quoted By: >>16352679

>>16352565

Really? I just used Ice Beam or Blizzard against most of Lance's pokemon with Blastoise, I forget which. If anything Gyarados was harder than Dragonite because it resisted Surf and was immune to Earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:25:18 No.16352651 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352608
Slash everything that's not strong to Fire*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:26:13 No.16352675 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352346
Not the same anon but my skills from the original final fantasy transferred quite nicely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:26:16 No.16352676 Report

Quoted By:

N was the rival in B/W; Ghetis was the villain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:26:20 No.16352679 Report

Quoted By: >>16352716

>>16352648
You got neutral hits with Ice Beam tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:27:19 No.16352701 Report

Quoted By: >>16352751

>>16352257
Calem/Serena's story is fucking sad since every time you beat them their dialogue makes them sound completely fucking crushed and trying to force a smile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:27:33 No.16352706 Report

Quoted By:

>>16350700
>hat aren't Blue or Silver
>Silver

lol no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:28:11 No.16352716 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352679

Yeah, but Gyarados has pretty decent Special and Blizzard doesn't have very much PP. I don't remember my fourth move though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:28:17 No.16352718 Report

Quoted By: >>16352732 >>16352734

>>16351075
>Blue was a cocky piece of shit who only wanted to be the best
What's wrong with wanting to be the best? That's the point of the entire Pokemon franchise. It's even in the anime's first theme tune.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:28:58 No.16352730 Report

Quoted By:

>>16351055
As long as you gave her the D
not a loser

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:29:08 No.16352732 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352718
He only wanted to be the best without everything else that comes with it.

Matt 4356 0076 5050

Matt 4356 0076 5050 Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:29:11 No.16352734 Report

Quoted By: >>16352809

>>16352718
>the best
Like no one ever was?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:30:06 No.16352751 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352701
Yeah, you're like the friend who's so good that you just ruin things for everyone else.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:30:44 No.16352760 Report

Quoted By:

>>16350700
>Bianca is the only rival to wear a hat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:31:34 No.16352784 Report

Quoted By: >>16352875

does anything in particular happen if you lose the battle for the mega ring

also the mega-lucario battle against roller girl, but she isn't a rival so

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:33:00 No.16352809 Report

Quoted By: >>16352838

>>16352734
Did he catch them like it was his real test?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:34:03 No.16352833 Report

Quoted By: >>16352858

Daily reminder that N was the real rival in BW, not Cheren or Bianca.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:34:15 No.16352838 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352809
And then he trained them because it was his cause

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:34:43 No.16352848 Report

Quoted By:

I really wanted to beat up Hugh because of how much of a twat he was

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:34:49 No.16352850 Report

Quoted By: >>16352893 >>16352932

>there will never be an ACTUAL rival that is working against you ever again.

Game Freak have so much potential to tinker with the idea, make it so he joins up for the evil team or something, but since RSE they've stuck to the same boring pushover that still bears a smile when you steamroll them.

Silver will forever be the GOAT rival.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:35:15 No.16352858 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352833
Daily reminder that you're retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:35:46 No.16352869 Report

Quoted By: >>16352929 >>16352996

>>16350700
Blue: Arrogant Piece of Shit
Silver: Felon
Wally: Shellshocked
Barry: ADHD
Cheren and Bianca: Clueless
Hugh: Can't handle all the fucking rage this piece of shit I hate. so much impulse take fucking some Vicodin holy shit
Entire X/Y rival set sans Serena: Pleb
Serena: At least had aspirations

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:36:21 No.16352875 Report

Quoted By: >>16352951 >>16352972

>>16352784
im interested to know what happens if you lose to AZ in the parade.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:37:28 No.16352893 Report

Quoted By: >>16352921 >>16352989

>>16352850
Friends must be friends, not mortal enemies who physically-harm each other whenever they lose a battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:38:48 No.16352921 Report

Quoted By: >>16352968

>>16352893
your friend doesnt have to be your rival. why can't we have someone we WANT to beat?

i didnt feel good when I beat Serena in Y, it felt like I was beating a shitter version of myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:39:28 No.16352929 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352869
I think Wally had some chronic immune disease like Lyme, Parkinson or diabetes or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:39:35 No.16352932 Report

Quoted By: >>16352953

>>16352850
>that still bears a smile when you steamroll them.
Like Blue who still thought he was hot shit even though you steamrolled him?
Silver changed things up then they went back to the normal formula with RSE but threw in Wally as a kind of "we know what you want in a rival but we're going to dash your dreams all over the place at the end" thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:39:44 No.16352935 Report

Quoted By:

>>16351456
The main character you didn't choose to play with

he/she isn't your friend but knows you

he/she won't hesitate to get in your way in every way possible(challenge you to a battle after a gym battle, trying to catch a legendary when you're too etc)

he/she would be mocking you everytime you meet and would give you false advise all the time

after beating the elite 4 and the champion, he/she comes to challenge you(unlike red vs gary) with a party of strong pokemon with very diverse movepool

Anytime he/she loses he/she will start teasing you because you're opposite gender, to try to make you lower your guard for the next encounter, or will say you cheated in some way

After you defeat him/her in the league he/she will leave without saying a word and the next time he/she challenges you he/she will have a team of legendaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:40:32 No.16352951 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352875
i don't know, but i'm guessing it doesn't matter because he's not fighting to win or to prove anything about you, he's fighting to remember what being a pokemon trainer is all about

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:40:39 No.16352953 Report

Quoted By: >>16353019

>>16352932
but at least when Blue acted like a cocky shit you were excited for the next time you got to battle him and beat him again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:41:14 No.16352963 Report

Quoted By:

>>16350700
I've never really cared about your rival being a jerk, I wasn't five back then and always easily beat them. The rival has only ever been difficult if you were too young to figure out how the game worked.

That said, Shauna/Serena/I don't even remember their names were especially pathetic. I enjoyed X/Y overall, but the entire single player story and gameplay was really pretty disappointing.

More and more, I really do feel like GF does only do just enough to sell their games, and slack off with the rest because they know people will buy it. There's no more push to try anything truly new or interesting. I mean, it took them six generations just to add more than four running directions.

I'm sure a few of you will sperg out at me for daring to complain, and it's not like I hate the games. But GF really seems afraid of taking any kind of real step forward with the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:41:30 No.16352967 Report

Quoted By: >>16353615

>tfw I thought Cheren was a girl until I looked up rule 34

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:41:33 No.16352968 Report

Quoted By: >>16353014

>>16352921
>why can't we have someone we WANT to beat?
We do, it's called every other NPC in the game.

Rivals are almost always friends unless they have some kind of amnesia and forget about their past life or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:41:42 No.16352972 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352875
Everybody boos at you for Shamufuru Disupurei
Then you lock yourself in the room, crying.
And Serena visits you by the window

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:42:33 No.16352989 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352893
>implying I didn't want to wreck Barry

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:43:01 No.16352996 Report

Quoted By: >>16353011

>>16352869
Forgot someone
N: The coolest toolbag ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:44:01 No.16353011 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352996
>implying N is a rival

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:44:04 No.16353014 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352968
what i meant was we should get two rivals, a friend and someone you legitimately want to be better than.

GF gave us a group of 4 people in Y and I never really cared for any of them. I liked the whole group idea and I hope they stick with it, but maybe narrow it down to maybe 3 people and stick in an evil character separate from the group. I think that would be ideal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:44:25 No.16353018 Report

Quoted By:

Rival rankings
Barry>Blue=Silver>Wally>Cheren>Bianca

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:44:27 No.16353019 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352953
After the second encounter it just gets annoying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:44:49 No.16353031 Report

Quoted By: >>16353074

They should give you an smug genius rival that you want to beat just by how smug he is. One of those obnoxious characters that are said to have graduated from college at 14 etcetera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:45:08 No.16353035 Report

Quoted By: >>16353070 >>16353080

>>16352565
Venusaur can learn EQ, Leech Seed, Toxic, Razor Leaf.

Charizard can learn EQ, Fire Blast, Rock Slide, Swords Dance

Blastoise can learn Hydro Pump, Blizzard, Body Slam, EQ.

But to be honest, you cant solo a game in your first try. Without a guide or anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:47:04 No.16353070 Report

Quoted By:

>>16353035
I solo'd BW and BW2 with Petilil/Lilligant as soon as I caught it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:47:16 No.16353074 Report

Quoted By:

>>16353031
So Koya, from DP adventures?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:47:28 No.16353080 Report

Quoted By: >>16353285

>>16353035
are we talking complete solo or just training your starter while neglecting the other 5 mons in your team?

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:47:29 No.16353081 Report

Quoted By:

>Serena calls me a Neighbor

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 19:59:19 No.16353285 Report

Quoted By: >>16353652

>>16353080
Impossible to do a true solo, you need HM slaves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 20:14:31 No.16353615 Report

Quoted By:

>>16352967
Can't be that stupid, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 20:15:51 No.16353647 Report

Quoted By: >>16353754 >>16353771

>>16352565
the fuck is big tits

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 20:16:18 No.16353652 Report

Quoted By:

>>16353285
ah, of course. Let me clarify then that I wouldn't count a pure HM slave as part of the team in that case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 20:21:03 No.16353754 Report

Quoted By: >>16353771 >>16353782

>>16353647
Lorelei

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 20:21:47 No.16353771 Report

Quoted By: >>16353782

>>16353647
>>16353754

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 20:22:36 No.16353782 Report

Quoted By:

>>16353754
are they actually that b-

>>16353771
never mind

White5009 !B2vHE9ennE

White5009 !B2vHE9ennE Fri 29 Nov 2013 21:08:47 No.16354639 Report

Quoted By:

First two were assholes and not really your friends, Gen III onwards, your "rival" was more of someone you just have a friendly competition with.

I did really enjoy Blue and Silver, and I'd like to see another asshole character that can actually build up some level of rage within in the player.
Hugh was a total bro, though, and his story was much more sad than I had expected it to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 22:20:47 No.16356178 Report

Quoted By:

>>16351604
THIS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2013 23:26:16 No.16357825 Report

Quoted By:

>>16351075
>But May/Bianca/Serena were all fucking angels who never did anything wrong.
Bianca was "i dont know what to do with my life so im gonna find myself"

PkmnFan

Wrong name!

PkmnFan Fri 27 Dec 2013 21:01:21 No.16357825,1 Report Delete

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I hate it when people call green blue! I read the Japanese translation and his name is clearly GREEN. Sure, in there Amurican version he is blue, but it came from Japan so that is the proper way! Call him Green!

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