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M-Mawile vs. M-Kangashkan

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 21:29:54 No.16380666 View View Reply Original Report

I'm currently using the following Mawile:

M-Mawile@Mawilenite
Intimidate
Nature: +att -spa
EV: 6 hp / 252 att / 252 speed
IV: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Play Rough
Iron Head
Brick Break
Rock Slide

And I'm thinking about switching to this M-Kangashkan (not bred yet)

Kangashkan@Kangashanite
Scrappy
Nature: +speed - spa
EV: 6hp / 252 att / 252 speed
IV: 31/31/31/x/31/31
Sucker Punch
Earthquake
Power-Up-Punch
Rock Tomb

Pros:
+2 M-Kanga > M-Mawile
Priority Move

Cons:
No steel/fairy attack (which would lead to no steel/fairy attack on my whole team)
Normal is a shit type compared to fairy/steel

What would you do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 21:30:30 No.16380692 Report

Quoted By:

kanga because it's broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 21:38:54 No.16380928 Report

Quoted By: >>16381070

>brick break and rock slide on M-Mawile

what the fuck are you going to really hit with either of those moves

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 21:41:35 No.16380988 Report

Quoted By: >>16381070

Pros:
Priority Move

> tfw don't know that you can get Sucker Punch for Mawile too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 21:44:39 No.16381070 Report

Quoted By: >>16381114 >>16381152

>>16380928
>Brick Break
It's the highest base dmg fighting move skill for Mawile. It's pretty good against Steel/Rock/Ice/Normal, and it can break screens.
>Rock Slide
Fire.

>>16380988
I know that, but I can't sacrifice a move for it on my set.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 21:46:37 No.16381114 Report

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>>16381070
90% of fire pokemon are going to outspeed you and OHKO anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 21:48:13 No.16381152 Report

Quoted By: >>16381207

>>16381070
Sucker Punch and Swords Dance are far more useful, especially since Mawile is so slow. You don't need SE against Rock/Ice when you have Iron head(which gets STAB) and Dark is neutral to steel now.

+2 off that huge power base 100 attack kills virtually everything anyway. I've gotten to +4 and swept even with a burn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 21:50:48 No.16381207 Report

Quoted By: >>16381253

>>16381152
My mawile is oneshotted most of the time, I think I won't have time to set up a SD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 21:52:50 No.16381253 Report

Quoted By: >>16381439

>>16381207
Remove the speed EV's and max out HP. You're not going to be outspeeding anything anyway with a base of 50.

Just bring it in on a physical attacker(preferably after a K.O). Intimidate activates, and either forces a switch or lets you take a hit easier as you mega evolve and SD. Proceed to attack appropriately and you're golden.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 22:00:42 No.16381439 Report

Quoted By: >>16381631

>>16381253
That doesn't sound bad. But then I have to oneshot with Sucker Punch, but I don't think that's a problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 22:09:24 No.16381631 Report

Quoted By: >>16381809

>>16381439
+2 from 678 attack should make you feel pretty confident regardless of what kind of move you're using.

Good luck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 22:18:31 No.16381809 Report

Quoted By: >>16381964

>>16381631
M-Mawile@Mawilenite
Intimidate
Nature: +att -spa
EV: 252 hp / 252 att / 6 def
IV: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Play Rough
Iron Head
Swords Dance
Sucker Punch

Sounds good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 22:25:07 No.16381964 Report

Quoted By: >>16382021

>>16381809
Yes. You don't need 31 Special Attack IVs, however.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 22:27:58 No.16382021 Report

Quoted By: >>16382334

>>16381964
I know, but I got lucky and bred an 6 IV one.
But thank you, I'm gonna try it

Sporbo 5386-8039-3719 {1557} {2129}

Sporbo 5386-8039-3719 {1557} {2129} Sat 30 Nov 2013 22:41:34 No.16382334 Report

Quoted By: >>16382516

>>16382021
alternatively, you could drop the swords dance for something like Fire Fang. Baton Pass a Swords Dance and Speed Boost from Scolipede/Blaziken

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 22:43:40 No.16382387 Report

Quoted By: >>16382915

did anyone try poweruppunch on mawile?

Dougie 4141-3073-4528 SV {3800}

Dougie 4141-3073-4528 SV {3800} Sat 30 Nov 2013 22:48:53 No.16382516 Report

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>>16382334
This
I run 252 HP/Atk 4 SpD and
sucker punch
play rough
iron head
fire fang
you can switch one of those for swords dance if you prefer but i baton pass a swords dance from scolipede(with an added speed boost) if this fails I also have talonflame with tailwind, which has surprisingly done alot for M-mawile

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:06:54 No.16382915 Report

Quoted By:

>>16382387
Power-up punch
Substitue
Toxic
Taunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:54:10 No.16383981 Report

Quoted By:

>>16380666
Here's the set that I run that works amazingly:

Mawile@Mawilenite
Intimidate
EV: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
IV: 31/31/31/0/31/31
Play Rough
Sucker Punch
Fire Fang
Swords Dance

Typically you want to get off at least 1 swords dance and you're set. Predict right and you can sweep pretty hard. Sucker Punch can OHKO most mons after a x2 boost.
>M-Khan
>Smogon Bird
>Greninja
>Excadrill
>Gliscor
>M-Gengar
>M-Zard X or Y

and need I go on? M-Mawile is best stopped by bulky pokemon or predicting the sucker punch correctly and using attacks like Will O Wisp to handicap it.

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