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Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:09:45 No.16382988 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16383056 >>16383140 >>16383201 >>16383273 >>16384008

>Hey VGC2014 on showdown.
>More boring than smogon OU, with even less diversity.

I really wanted to start bredding and give VGC a shot but it's just horrible. Even singles seems more fun than double now, and I hate single. I looked up previous editions and every team are the same.

I'm sad /vp/. Hold me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:12:56 No.16383056 Report

Quoted By: >>16383112

>>16382988
>no genies, no togepiss, no cresselia, no terrakion
>worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:15:58 No.16383112 Report

Quoted By: >>16383210

>>16383056

Wat ?

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IGN: Parham 2836-1058-9751 (Beartic, Spheal, ???) Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:17:40 No.16383140 Report

Quoted By: >>16383245 >>16387221

>>16382988
VGC is a kind of bad format in the sense of how restricting it is - ie, NO POKEBANK, DOUBLES ONLY, FINAL DESTINATION
Only 4 pokemon in a doubles format also sucks. I know that its for time etc etc but it still feels like you're not allowed to play at full capacity. This would be different if they had best out of 3 battles, but they don't (again, for time reasons).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:18:09 No.16383154 Report

Quoted By: >>16383169 >>16383194

If you want variety in teams then play gen 5 NU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:19:13 No.16383169 Report

Quoted By: >>16383210

>>16383154
>Jynx on every team
no thx bby

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Max (IGN Serena) 0860-3392-4713 {SV 189}{SV 712} Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:20:23 No.16383194 Report

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>>16383154
Why do people always push the lie that UU and NU are better than OU? If anything both UU and NU where more over centralized than the OU tier. UU is Chandelure, Slobro, Roserade and Heracross the tier. NU is actually worse, if your not using Jynx, Golurk and fucking Scolipede don't expect to do well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:20:44 No.16383201 Report

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>>16382988
Then play smogon doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:21:03 No.16383210 Report

Quoted By: >>16383310

>>16383112
The rules this year ban all non-Kalos dex pokemon.

All the things he listed were rampant in past years.

>>16383169
Confirmed for never having played Gen V NU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:22:40 No.16383245 Report

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>>16383140

Yes with only 4 mons you can't cover others weaknesses and have to run Rotom-W, Tyranitar and the like, because they can do so much, ence the lack of diversity. I'm enjoying Pokebank doubles OU a lot but most people here are retarded, and I wanted to feel the joy of breeding my pokemon.

I might try triple on wifi, dunno if it's better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:23:58 No.16383273 Report

Quoted By: >>16383318 >>16383407

>>16382988
>VGC2014
>no diversity

You should have seen previous years. At least this years ruleset has removed a ton of the pokemon that used to be on every team

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:25:53 No.16383310 Report

Quoted By: >>16383343

>>16383210
No, you didn't play it. Obviously, I don't mean every team, but Jynx was to NU as CB Scizor or Scarfed Moxiemence was to OU last gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:26:21 No.16383318 Report

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>>16383273
This.

I'm going to enjoy it as long as people have no idea what the fuck they're doing.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:26:58 No.16383330 Report

Quoted By: >>16383366

I have a feeling Smeargle is going to be on a lot of teams, this year Dark Void is NOT banned and Pokebank will be out just in time for Smeargle to pick it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:27:29 No.16383343 Report

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>>16383310
That's significantly more reasonable.

I never would've said any of those things were "everywhere" but they were absurdly common. Carry on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:28:01 No.16383353 Report

Quoted By: >>16383389

Well Amoongus and Scrafty are still going to be popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:28:36 No.16383366 Report

Quoted By: >>16383622

>>16383330
>tfw I'm the only one who runs Safeguard Klefki

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:29:15 No.16383389 Report

Quoted By: >>16383444 >>16383484

>>16383353
>Amoongus
Spore is dead, old man.

Long live Dark Void Smeargle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:30:09 No.16383407 Report

Quoted By: >>16383594

>>16383273

But they have been replaced by others. Look at this article,
http://nuggetbridge.com/articles/x-y-battle-spot-doubles-early-look-pokemon-usage/ it's as bland as before, only the face have changed, a bit, for now (even if Meowstick looks better than Cresselia).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:31:30 No.16383444 Report

Quoted By: >>16383467

>>16383389
Spore is still very much alive seeing that most Grass types are not viable in VGC except for Amoongus, Breloom, and the rare Venasaur.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:32:29 No.16383467 Report

Quoted By: >>16383501 >>16383514

>>16383444
But why should I spore and put one to sleep when I could put half his team to sleep with one move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:33:10 No.16383484 Report

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>>16383389
Wait.
They didn't ban Dark Void in VGC2014?

God help us all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:33:42 No.16383501 Report

Quoted By: >>16383554

>>16383467
Because smeargle dies to Brave Bird.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:34:00 No.16383514 Report

Quoted By: >>16383554

>>16383467
Well Breloom is there to Mach Punch Smeargle assuming it is Scraf Dark Voiding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:35:41 No.16383554 Report

Quoted By: >>16383620 >>16383622

>>16383501
>>16383514
Give it a sash, then. (I guess that makes it vulnerable to M-kanga.)

I'm not saying that Dark Void smeargle is the best option, I'm saying it's going to be used because the phrase "Put half of your opponent's team to sleep in one move." is a rather attractive proposition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:36:59 No.16383594 Report

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>>16383407
I'm reading that article and seeing a wide range of things that got a respectable amount of usage during the first month of a developing metagame.

Also Togekiss is banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:38:01 No.16383620 Report

Quoted By: >>16383678

>>16383554
But if it has a Sash it is then vulnerable to other Smeargle with a Scarf Dark Voiding, Speed is everything, especially when it lets you shut down teams turn 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:38:05 No.16383622 Report

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>>16383554
See:
>>16383366
Goly gosh I hope Dark Void Smeargle becomes popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:40:08 No.16383678 Report

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>>16383620
Fair point. That makes it pretty interesting, seeing how Gen 6 is supposed to be the priority generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:55:39 No.16384008 Report

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>>16382988
>Diversity
>Tornadus/ Thundurus / Landorus and Cresselia in every team
OP is butthurt because he can't use his cheap legendaries

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Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2013 23:56:01 No.16384016 Report

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Question: Why don't people just run magic coat, especially after seeing what happened with spore in the last VGC? See a smeargle, and it's predictable it'll do that, just use magic coat and gain immediate advantage.
Or is there something I'm not seeing? Who can use magic coat well in VGC this year?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2013 00:48:49 No.16385154 Report

Quoted By: >>16385690 >>16392057

related question, where's the best place to find a double battle in X and Y to get smeargle to sketch moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2013 01:09:17 No.16385690 Report

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>>16385154
Best way is to find a wild smeargle, use the move you want, switch in your own smeargle and copy it of the wild one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2013 02:20:55 No.16387221 Report

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>>16383140
That's why the team building is the most important part of VGC. you don't build a team where all 6 work together. since its 4v4 best 2/3, you wanna take 6 pokemon that have several combinations in the team based on your opponents team. direct counters, max speed and 252 EVs aren't as useful, 4v4 is more planning rather than reacting.

That being said OP, start with Pokemon you like on Showdown and customize your team until you can deal with your opponents properly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2013 06:05:32 No.16392057 Report

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>>16385154
Cafe le Nah.

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