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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 02:08:57 No.16411712 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16411894 >>16411994 >>16412005 >>16412058 >>16415982 >>16416054

Why did Gamefreak shit on Breloom so fucking hard?

>most Technician moves slightly buffed JUST so they don't work with Technician fucking Low Sweep increased from 60 to 65? REALLY?
>grass types immune to spore, overcoat immune to spore, safety goggles
>stun spore, same shit, PLUS electrics immune
>smogonburd
>fairies
>more poison and fire because of fairies

Seriously, was he really that overpowered? Fuck whoever "balances" this game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 02:16:08 No.16411890 Report

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Probably because their jap contender lost to Sporini this year at the championships so obviously there has to be something wrong with spore so they have to make sure no jap player ever loses like that again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 02:16:15 No.16411894 Report

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>>16411712
Breloom had its time in the spotlight. It will find a home in UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 02:17:34 No.16411919 Report

Quoted By: >>16411944 >>16412058

Scizor does everything Breloom did but better, except causing sleep. It even got SE against some Pokémon that Breloom used to be SE against, thanks to the Fairy type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 02:18:36 No.16411944 Report

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>>16411919
And of course, except for against water types.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 02:20:47 No.16411994 Report

Quoted By: >>16416417

>>16411712
>Rock tomb not fulfilling the same role as low sweep but also giving amazing coverage
>Bullet Seed still not hitting EVERYTHING like a truck
>Implying Breloom won a lot of his negative match ups 1 v 1 instead of just chipping them and switching
>he won't still be able to wreck shit

It's okay, keep saying he's ruined, I'll just be enjoying like I always have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 02:21:32 No.16412005 Report

Quoted By: >>16412034

>>16411712

>grass
>not get nerfed every single generation and even game to game

pick one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 02:22:30 No.16412034 Report

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>>16412005
It's because grass is the basic starter threat to water and Masuda has to ensure it never poses a threat to his precious water types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 02:23:29 No.16412058 Report

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>>16411712

I like Breloom, but not competitively. Competitively, he is an annoying piece of shit. That being said, he is still very usable in the OU metagame. Switches to grass types can be predicted. You can also use Rock Tomb over Low Sweep, which provides better coverage and got a buff (50 -> 60 power, 80% -> 95% accuracy)

>>16411919

Breloom still functions as a subpuncher (the last of it's kind) and seed staller, and even then, Mach Punch is SE against much more things than Bullet Punch. Also, causing sleep actually is a big deal and allows him to set up easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 02:31:41 No.16412237 Report

Quoted By: >>16413491

>ever using low sweep on a pokemon when 130~180 power grass exists that already fucks up half of the heavy pokemon, plus drain punch and mach punch filling up fighting slots
Are you retarded?

>smogonbird
Breloom has shit speed, pretty much ALL the brave bird users could already fuck him up. Captain falcon loses 50% hp to stealth rock ffs, a brave bird on top of that is suicide. Plus Breloom has stone edge to fuck his shit if he uses roost instead of an heroing. Focus sash works wonders too.

>was he really that overpowered?
130 atk with spore, sword dance, priority and grass nuke. Obviously OU material in gen 5.

Fuck, even with bulky poison heal build he is amazing. He will drop to UU and wreak everything, while still being useable in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 02:44:52 No.16412593 Report

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I use him regularly and he shits on greninja with mach punch. Ive OHKD everyone of them I have faced

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 03:21:55 No.16413491 Report

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>>16412237
>stone edge
It's kind of pointless to use that now that rock tomb has been buffed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 04:07:52 No.16414619 Report

Quoted By: >>16416023

>rock tomb replaces low sweep and fills the exact same niche while providing infinitely better coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 05:08:09 No.16415982 Report

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>>16411712
qq more breloom was fucking horse shit to fight against and had maybe 4 or 5 guaranteed answers.

They implemented fucking sleep clause *because* of breloom.

Face it, he's just cheap, now he's slightly less cheap because he has some good counters.

He still has absurd damage, poison heal, sub, spore and access to good priority.

You wanna complain about a pokemon that got ruined this generation? Try leavanny, or parasect, did they deserve nerfs? Fuck no. Did they get nerfs? Fuck yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 05:10:35 No.16416023 Report

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>>16414619
No stab, but you are basically correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 05:11:29 No.16416054 Report

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>>16411712
well it seems they overlooked one giant flaw i cant wait to wipe teams when pokebank come out muhahahaha

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2013 05:29:17 No.16416417 Report

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>>16411994
Ive actually been using power up punch after putting people to sleep then bullet seed if they dont resist

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