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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 01:50:17 No.16433324 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16433382 >>16433419 >>16434265

>Battle Maison
>Around fight 36
>Suddenly every single team has Vespiquen
>Deal with it five times
>Fight 42
>Vespiquen spams confuse ray, roost, defense order.
>My team kills itself.
>Didn't even see the other two pokemon
AAUUUGH.
I've lost on fight 42 twice in a row now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 01:52:44 No.16433382 Report

Quoted By: >>16433430 >>16433697 >>16434260 >>16435141

>>16433324
Truant durant/dragonite/random mega of your choosing.

Have fun reaching 50 mins in your sleep OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 01:54:08 No.16433419 Report

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>>16433324
Yeah I lost at 42 last night as well to an all Legendary team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 01:54:26 No.16433430 Report

Quoted By: >>16433635

>>16433382
But I don't WANT to use pokemon I don't like! Fuck the Maison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 01:54:44 No.16433441 Report

Quoted By: >>16433617

The AI learns to beat you

Switch up your teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:01:49 No.16433617 Report

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>>16433441
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:02:23 No.16433635 Report

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>>16433430
then enjoy losing. Gotta beat hax with hax.

Seriously, you will come up against some shit like Glaceon holding bright powder in hail, stalling, stalling everywhere, and legendaries.

You can't really get far using only pokemon you "like"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:04:24 No.16433683 Report

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Welcome to the Battle Maison, bitch.
Time to git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:04:50 No.16433697 Report

Quoted By: >>16433748 >>16433787

>>16433382
I got to 84 with a Druant, Haxorus with mold breaker (fucking sturdy mons everywhere) and Greninja. I goofed when I let a Forretress boom my Greninja.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:07:04 No.16433748 Report

Quoted By: >>16433775 >>16433809

>>16433697
Bleh. I guess I'll grab a Truant Durant and wait until the Bank opens. I have a shiny perfect Haxorus in Black 2 I'll want to use.

What attacks did your Haxorus have?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:08:06 No.16433775 Report

Quoted By: >>16433809 >>16433856

>>16433748
DD
Protect
Dragon Move
Coverage Move

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:08:33 No.16433787 Report

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>>16433697

Yea sturdy is a bitch, I was thinking of going haxorus, but multiscale has saved me once or twice when I fucked up and dragonite is pretty bulky. I use mega-scizor to safe switch into ice types if dragonite gets phased or if durant gets bit by fakeout.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:09:31 No.16433809 Report

Quoted By: >>16433838 >>16433856

>>16433748
See
>>16433775
It helps to have a move that can break through steel types. I goofed and had earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:10:38 No.16433838 Report

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>>16433809
Sorry, I meant Rock Slide, not Earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:11:41 No.16433856 Report

Quoted By: >>16433883

>>16433775
Hmm, pretty close already. Okay, thanks!
>>16433809
Earthquake is the new hyper beam, of course it's gunna be on there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:13:01 No.16433883 Report

Quoted By: >>16434023

>>16433856
Yeah Earthquake is good coverage, I have no idea what possessed me to do Rock Slide. I got walled by a Ferrothorn and lost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:16:51 No.16433974 Report

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Always have a fire move, all the better if it is a special one. Same goes for Ice.

Always use the most nasty, smogon OP kind of shit, go for the kills and don't try to be cute

Don't be afraid to use your BP points to get items, you will get more easily.

Doubles/triples are NOTHING like singles, don't hope in doubles/triples thinking you will be hot shit with your single-team because you are gonna get fucked, fast

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:18:59 No.16434023 Report

Quoted By: >>16434056 >>16434083

>>16433883

What do you do against togekiss then?

You risk switching into your other mon, losing your setup and getting swept by hax.

Dragonite /w Dragon claw/fire punch is better I think.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:20:31 No.16434047 Report

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Umm..... Regirock, Heatran, Tornadus, I fucking hate this game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:20:51 No.16434056 Report

Quoted By: >>16434152

>>16434023
I lead with Greninja during that streak. It proved to be my undoing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:21:51 No.16434083 Report

Quoted By: >>16434178

>>16434023
>Azumarill

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:24:19 No.16434152 Report

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>>16434056
Just to explain why, I was leading with Durant on the first 20 or so battles and figured I could speed up the process if I lead with Greninja and got some easy, quick free kills. Sometimes I'd even go 3-0, despite people seeming to think the AI pits you against hard counters after X matches. It may have been the result of Protean screwing with its logic though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:24:56 No.16434166 Report

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What's the best weather to abuse for doubles or triples?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:25:25 No.16434178 Report

Quoted By: >>16434239 >>16434245 >>16434489

>>16434083
+6 dragon dance fire punch vs azumaril?

You take mega scizor or something as your third, which you prolly will never use anyways unless you fuck something up.

Besides, I've never seen azumaril in the battle maison on singles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:27:20 No.16434213 Report

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Still working on it, but I think I've got a good shot at hitting 100 with Cloyster, M-Gyarados, and Gliscor.
90% of the time, the Battle Maison teams don't even get through Cloyster, when they do, they still have to situationally face a Toxic/Sub/Protect Gliscor or a M-Gyarados.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:28:09 No.16434239 Report

Quoted By: >>16434364

>>16434178
+6 252+ Atk Haxorus Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Azumarill: 163-192 (40.3 - 47.5%)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:28:26 No.16434245 Report

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>>16434178

>say this
>now everyone will see them

Thanks, asshole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:29:14 No.16434260 Report

Quoted By: >>16434284

>>16433382
>Truant durant

U w0t

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:29:33 No.16434265 Report

Quoted By: >>16434342

>>16433324
Take Greninja or Kecleon with protean, the maison will have a hard time countering them. Take mega mommy kangaroo as well as an own tempo/Magic Bounce pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:30:21 No.16434284 Report

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>>16434260
>Doesn't know about True Ant Durant

Entrainment shenanigans yo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:32:30 No.16434342 Report

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>>16434265
I have both of those. I lead with M-Kanga, Aegislash then Greninja.
It roosted itself to full HP, my Aegislash killed itself and I sent out my Greninja hoping to one hit KO it with Ice beam.
It had a focus sash.

Once it got a confuse ray off, my hopes of winning vanished and I got defeated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:33:26 No.16434364 Report

Quoted By: >>16434420 >>16434464

>>16434239
I was talking about dragonite, not haxorus, but whatever.

Point being, you have 6 dances up before that thing even switches in (I still don't think it's even in the maison) , it's not a threat if you run multiscale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:35:48 No.16434420 Report

Quoted By: >>16434448 >>16434548

>>16434364
+6 252+ Atk Dragonite Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Azumarill: 152-179 (37.6 - 44.3%)

0 Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 117-138 (36.1 - 42.5%)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:36:41 No.16434448 Report

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>>16434420
>This plus aqua jet
So what's better? Earthquake?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:37:23 No.16434464 Report

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>>16434364

He used Haxorus because it has even more attack than Dragonite.
Fire Punch doesn't do shit to a water/fairy type, you're better off switching.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:39:03 No.16434489 Report

Quoted By: >>16434712

>>16434178
>Besides, I've never seen azumaril in the battle maison on singles.
Yeah I don't think I have either. I assume GF doesn't think it's worthy of a Maison team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:40:55 No.16434548 Report

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>>16434420

That's assuming the enemy runs + def nature. Then you're prolly fucked unless you get a lucky burn, and that's why you switch to your third.

Like I said, I haven't even seen azumarill, nevermind one running + def nature/ev's

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:47:27 No.16434712 Report

Quoted By: >>16434785

>>16434489

>the very people who gave it huge power, belly drum and aqua jet had no idea what monster they were creating

Yeah, okay anon. It's probably that even GameFreak was like "Hory shiet even dat is too browken for BM."
There are very few counters to Belly Drumarill in the entire fucking game, few of them are even available yet and of those that are available, half rely on being in play the same turn as or before it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:50:09 No.16434785 Report

Quoted By: >>16435000

>>16434712
>It's probably that even GameFreak was like "Hory shiet even dat is too browken for BM."
The same people who make the AI cheat chances, predict switches and button presses? I don't think they would ever say this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 02:57:20 No.16435000 Report

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>>16434785

Good point. Maybe they had a group of troglodytes in a sub-basement in GameFreak HQ design the BM teams?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 03:01:49 No.16435103 Report

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I got really far with protean life orb greninja lead since they keep picking grass and fighting to counter it when that doesn't work, 2nd poke is klefki and last is mega lucario, generally just sweep as much as I can with greninja and don't try to save him, send in tricky keys to paralyze then dual screens and finish with lucario who has at least one turn to get his mega speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 03:03:29 No.16435141 Report

Quoted By: >>16435210 >>16435218 >>16435608

>>16433382
>truant
am I missing something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 03:05:46 No.16435210 Report

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>>16435141
Entrainment.
The Truant bug will spread like a virus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 03:06:05 No.16435218 Report

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>>16435141
Entrainment switches abilities and Durant learns it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 03:21:48 No.16435608 Report

Quoted By: >>16435758

>>16435141
Entrainment Truant + 2 setup sweepers. Use Entrainment with Durant vs opponent's first Pokemon. Switch into a setup sweeper. Alternate Protect / Boost every other turn until +6, and then sweep.

Dragonite is commonly used because Multiscale + Dragon Dance. Having +Speed from the boosting is important.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 03:21:49 No.16435609 Report

Quoted By: >>16435682

got to 200 without that much bullshit
a fuckin carracosta of all things almost cost me my streak near the 190s
my advice: have a focus sasher, m-khan is nice but not necessary, multiscale dragonite w lum berry in a blessing
also don't use that durant shit and try not to have a mega lead: ur sanitys just as important when trying to get to 200

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 03:24:40 No.16435682 Report

Quoted By: >>16435819 >>16436323

>>16435609
>also don't use that durant shit and try not to have a mega lead
Why not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 03:27:29 No.16435758 Report

Quoted By: >>16436195

>>16435608
Would a Curse M-Blaziken work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 03:29:44 No.16435819 Report

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>>16435682
if it works for u go for it, but i had animations off and it still took a fuckton of time
durant set up takes way to long plus the mega animation kills after seeing it every battle 200 times. my team was
crawdaunt
m-khan
dragonite
crawdaunt worked really well for me, you can replace m-khan with a mega of ur choice honestly, but that fuckin lum berry dragonite will save ur life alot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 03:44:42 No.16436195 Report

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>>16435758
Probably. But you need to be as invincible as possible with only 2 moves. I used a Mold Breaker Haxorus + Dragon Dance and his 2 moves were Earthquake and Shadow Claw. Paid off when Togekiss's / Air Balloon fairies started to show up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2013 03:50:52 No.16436323 Report

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>>16435682
also relying on one pokemon is gonna bite you in the ass 90%. in addition to sashes and eventually running into a pokemon with perfect resistance, there was a fuckin bastiodon that was the bane of my existance. you see that or an aggron, chances are they have fuckin study and will always pumel your ass with a metal burst.

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