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Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:15:51 No.16468002 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16468036 >>16468060 >>16468164 >>16468330 >>16469950 >>16470538 >>16470871 >>16471031 >>16471383

/vp/ why do you hate every starter Pokemon so much?

I mean lets be honest, it doesn't matter the gen, every starter just gets shit on no matter what.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:17:35 No.16468036 Report

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>>16468002

Because it's a """"""""""~*handout*~"""""""""" and /vp/ is full of elitist cockmongling morons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:18:27 No.16468051 Report

Quoted By: >>16468103

starter pokemon are kind of lame after a while. they have really good stats, great movepools, and level up super fast. using starter pokemon is just kind of boring.

and then sometimes they are inexplicably terrible. it would be nice if they could figure out how to make them good but not great instead of amazing or terrible.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:18:51 No.16468060 Report

Quoted By: >>16468554 >>16470418

>>16468002
Because they all suck except for Charizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:21:38 No.16468103 Report

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>>16468051
chesnaught is kind of in the middle of those terms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:21:41 No.16468104 Report

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Stock response is that the 3 elemental starters, regional bird, & hm rodent are boring.

The actual answer is that Gen1 starters are highly over rated and the rest typically have an imbalance issue where one is much better than the other 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:21:51 No.16468105 Report

Quoted By: >>16468151 >>16468312 >>16468542

Because nothing can ever be good enough. /vp/ shits on everything every gen, it doesn't really matter, even gen 1. Name one regional bug, bird, rodent, or legendary that isn't continuously shit on. /vp/ only likes hipster-mons like Dunsparce and waifu shit like Gardevoir.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:23:32 No.16468134 Report

Quoted By: >>16468139 >>16468907 >>16469624

Every starter except Meganium is at least decent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:23:46 No.16468139 Report

Quoted By: >>16468210

>>16468134
>Emboar

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:24:30 No.16468151 Report

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>>16468105
Holy shit... /vp/ IS ONE PERSON?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:25:31 No.16468164 Report

Quoted By: >>16468252 >>16471240

>>16468002

because they detract new players from trying out mons, they think only their starter matters, and then they cry when their starter fails them against real players

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:25:39 No.16468166 Report

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There is no such thing as a perfect Pokemon. /vp/ should understand that by now. For some reason even the slightest weakness shown by a starter is like the worst thing in the world.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:28:19 No.16468210 Report

Quoted By: >>16468249

>>16468139
>not liking Embroar

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:30:57 No.16468249 Report

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>>16468210
Is that Photoshopped or what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:31:00 No.16468252 Report

Quoted By: >>16468302

>>16468164
Oh please that's bullshit, well the part where it detracts players from using new mons. What do you think people just play the whole game using only their starters? Maybe 12 year olds...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:33:48 No.16468302 Report

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>>16468252

yep, I mean the 12 year olds. I hate how starters spoil them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:34:22 No.16468312 Report

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>>16468105
Whats wrong with people disliking pokemon based on the idea of an idea GF came up with back in the 90s when the game first came out. I dont think I have to argue the need that an early game stock bird be created each generation is boring an uncreative.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:35:12 No.16468326 Report

Quoted By: >>16468993

Gen IV and VI had my favorite starters.

>All dual-types
>Good stat distributions
>Decent to good movepools
>Good designs

Seed Flare !sShaymin0c

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Seed Flare !sShaymin0c Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:35:28 No.16468330 Report

Quoted By: >>16469027

>>16468002
I actually like Swampert a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:45:14 No.16468514 Report

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But I like all of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:45:57 No.16468536 Report

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I loved Snivy, Tepig, Chespin and Froakie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:46:15 No.16468542 Report

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>>16468105
Vivillon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:46:41 No.16468554 Report

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>>16468060
That's not Braixen..

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:54:30 No.16468682 Report

Quoted By: >>16468786

Because /vp/ hates handoutmons. If they could be found in the wild, they wouldn't get as much hate as they could.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:56:27 No.16468713 Report

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>>16468151

THAT'S RIGHT
WE'RE ALL CLONES OF YOU
THIS ENTIRE BOARD
IS FILLED WITH CLONES
SHITPOSTING RELENTLESSLY
ALL DAY
EVERY DAY

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 18:59:55 No.16468786 Report

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>>16468682
Ok I guess you should just start the game with a stick and a rock and hope for the best

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:00:57 No.16468801 Report

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>>16468713
That's not far from the truth

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:01:54 No.16468816 Report

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>>16468786
>professor gives you 6 balls and pokedex

thats a pretty cool idea actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:06:03 No.16468886 Report

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Everyone has starters they like, and starters they don't like. When someone shits on a starter they like, then they shit on the ones they don't like, thus starting a chain reaction where every single starter is shat on because no one starter is individually liked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:07:11 No.16468907 Report

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>>16468134
This nigga knows what's up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:12:31 No.16468993 Report

Quoted By: >>16469781 >>16469807 >>16469899

>>16468326
Speaking of Gen IV, why did Empoleon get the short end of the stick?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:14:41 No.16469027 Report

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>>16468330
ma nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:15:32 No.16469041 Report

Quoted By: >>16469072

I really like grass starters :3

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:15:35 No.16469042 Report

Quoted By: >>16469054 >>16469097

Because /vp/ hates handout-mons because they think it makes the game too easy. They like challenge.

Little do they know that the extra challenge doesn't matter because the main games are easy as fuck regardless of what you use. People just want to feel elitist over Pokemon but lack the actual skill to play competitively. Even shit like Nuzlockes do not require actual skill since people generally just grind their way to victory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:16:44 No.16469054 Report

Quoted By: >>16469279 >>16472067 >>16472154

>>16469042
>grinding during nuzlocke run
that completely defeats the purpose

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:17:43 No.16469072 Report

Quoted By: >>16469375

>>16469041
Who's your favorite? Mine is Turtwig.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:19:10 No.16469097 Report

Quoted By: >>16469187 >>16469279

>>16469042
If they make the game too easy why does everyione bitch that every single starter is useless?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:24:20 No.16469187 Report

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>>16469097
Because /vp/ isn't a single person and there's always a dumbfuck or two who doesn't know how to use a starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:28:45 No.16469279 Report

Quoted By: >>16469418

>>16469054
I didn't really do it the one time I did a Nuzlocke, but that's what many people do. Nothing in the core rules prevent it.

>>16469097
I actually don't see those complaints that often. Those people are probably either ten years old or mentally handicapped, because the games are easy with any Pokemon, and starters really aren't that hard to use.

Or maybe they're talking competitively, but that's even dumber since you're not going to be using your in-game team competitively anyway, and also because there's actually quite a few competitively decent starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:32:16 No.16469346 Report

Quoted By: >>16469437

I actually found this gen to be the hardest in a long time.

Your rivals a shit and so can the gym leaders, but the game is a bit ridiculous with what it throws at you at low levels, because its clearly attempted to have been tuned for Exp Share always being on.

Turn it off and it gets a bit intense. Throwing fucking sawk and throh at you at around level 25 and making you fight snorlax and shit at level 15. Generally, the pokemon it throws at you are pokemon that are traditionally only seen at later points in other main series games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:34:17 No.16469375 Report

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>>16469072
bulbasaur

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:36:56 No.16469418 Report

Quoted By: >>16470217

>>16469279
There's also the consideration that they may be referring to pokemon as a zero-sum game, which means that if certain starter is outclassed by the others or by other pokemon of its type, then it's shit. And with differing play styles, every single pokemon will fall under that in-game. Except the pseudos/legendaries I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:38:10 No.16469437 Report

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>>16469346
Sawk and Throh can be encountered before the second gym in BW, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:50:39 No.16469624 Report

Quoted By: >>16469720

>>16468134
>Serpierior

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:55:52 No.16469720 Report

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>>16469624
They're both decent to good if you know how to use them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:56:15 No.16469727 Report

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>I mean lets be honest, it doesn't matter the gen, every Pokemon just gets shit on no matter what.
Fixed it for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 19:59:34 No.16469781 Report

Quoted By: >>16469846

>>16468993

In what way? It's no Infernape but it still has an interesting typing and got off better than Torterra did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:01:17 No.16469807 Report

Quoted By: >>16469940

>>16468993
Empoleon was actually pretty good though. Especially on rain teams, which were all the rage back then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:03:49 No.16469846 Report

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>>16469781
In the way that its secondary type screws it over against the other two's STABs. I mean, at least it could learn Ice Beam, but really now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:03:53 No.16469848 Report

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>>16468151 (You)
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:07:32 No.16469899 Report

Quoted By: >>16469940

>>16468993
Emploeon got off a hell of a lot better than Torterra. Hell, he was OU back in Gen IV.

>spam Sub until 25%
>spam Agility when they are breaking the Sub
>sweep with Torrent-boosted, Petaya-boosted Surfs
Fucking loved that set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:07:57 No.16469905 Report

Quoted By: >>16470026

Because they're handout-mons, and people want to feel like they put some effort into a kids' game by saying "I DON'T NEED YOUR CHARITY" and going out and catching something (which is really fucking easy, I mean you hit it once or twice and then throw a ball at it) six times and then boxing their starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:09:56 No.16469940 Report

Quoted By: >>16469988

>>16469807
>>16469899
I wasn't talking about competitive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:10:34 No.16469950 Report

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>>16468002
The good starters are hated because they are seen as easy mode, in game.

The bad starters are hated for being shit.

The average ones are hated for not being as good as the good starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:12:54 No.16469988 Report

Quoted By: >>16470036

>>16469940
>Guys, Empoleon is shit
>no, he was actually pretty good for his time
>That's not important and I still hate him
Ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:15:24 No.16470026 Report

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>>16469905
Y-y-yeah well at least I actually put in EFFORT into getting that Pokemon! Casual! Go back to Reddit!

But seriously, Pokemon is not the game to play if you're looking for a difficult challenge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:16:10 No.16470035 Report

Quoted By: >>16470080 >>16470104 >>16470161 >>16470163 >>16470217 >>16471149

The main issue I have with starters is there is almost always a pokemon of its type I want to use more. This is a huge problem with water type starters because there are just so many good water type pokemon. But in this gen, why pick the grass starter when I want a gogoat? Why pick the fire starter when you can get a torchick so easily? Why pick the water starter knowing he is not good without his hidden ability?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:16:13 No.16470036 Report

Quoted By: >>16470094

>>16469988
Empoleon is actually my favorite Water starter...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:19:08 No.16470080 Report

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>>16470035
This is why they should give you a eevee, or make another pokemon similar to eevee that can evolve into anything. Make game events into evolving it, like you can't evolve it until you reach town 2 where the stones are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:20:12 No.16470094 Report

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>>16470036
All gen 4 starters were bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:20:47 No.16470104 Report

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>>16470035
This was my problem last gen. I ended up boxing my starter because there was something of every starter type I wanted to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:25:19 No.16470161 Report

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>>16470035
I had that issue with gen 5, too. Not that its starters were bad...it's just that the other Pokemon of the same type were just way cooler. (Or cuter, in Lilligant's case...)

I also had that problem with gen 6, though, but that's because the only starter I liked was the Froakie line, even if it doesn't get Protean in-game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:25:26 No.16470163 Report

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>>16470035

I know how you feel, anon. I had the same problem in gen 5.

>pick tepig
>realize i want a darmanitan
>start over, pick snivy
>realize i want a lilligant
>can't box starter because of autism
>can't use more than one type because of autism
>will never pick oshawott because of its horrid design
>suck it up and continue with snivy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:27:11 No.16470193 Report

Quoted By: >>16470221 >>16470246 >>16470250 >>16470272

Hoenn Starters were the most competitively-viable starters, everything else was downhill from that generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:28:37 No.16470217 Report

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>>16470035
This is what I was getting at here >>16469418
You can only carry 6 pokemon and so many times a starter is inferior to another poke of its type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:28:41 No.16470221 Report

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>>16470193
Shut up hoennbaby

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:30:02 No.16470246 Report

Quoted By: >>16471572

>>16470193
>Sceptile
>competitive
Not anymore.

Also, Gen IV had two OUs for it's time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:30:17 No.16470250 Report

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>>16470193
Nah, that would be the Sinnoh starters. All three Gen 3 starters were pretty viable, but none of them were truly top tier. Gen 4 had Infernape fucking everywhere and Empoleon was very common too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:31:34 No.16470272 Report

Quoted By: >>16470472 >>16470623

>>16470193
>what is infernape
>what is greninja

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:33:44 No.16470313 Report

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I just don't really like boxing my starter, even if I've used it loads of times before, it doesn't feel right.

I was actually glad when my Snivy died in my White Nuzlocke though, he was so useless, he died to a Roggenrolla thanks to Bold nature. He never even got to evolve.

I find I only like using certain starters, like Typhlosion, Samurott, Torterra, or Chesnaught. In other situations I feel like I would rather have different Pokemon of that type. It's not too bad with Fire as there aren't many Fire types, but Grass and especially Water are quite common. And I can't stand overlapping types either, which makes teams just for ingame a headache.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:36:18 No.16470357 Report

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The only shit starters are Meganium and Samurott.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:39:40 No.16470418 Report

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>>16468060

You spelled "especially" wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:42:58 No.16470472 Report

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>>16470272
Thats it.
Only greninja from VI and only infernape from IV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:46:19 No.16470538 Report

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>>16468002
>swampert
>talked down upon
never

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:50:09 No.16470623 Report

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>>16470272
A flaming faggot ape
An overrated frog with a body rich in protein.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:52:13 No.16470668 Report

Quoted By: >>16470796

Hipsters. That's all it is.

The only starters I hate are Blaziken and Serperior, not because they're starters but because of their designs. Emboar is also really boaring

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:53:16 No.16470690 Report

Quoted By: >>16470776 >>16470789 >>16471151 >>16471267 >>16471812

>people judging quality by competitive viability

I seriously hope you guys are being ironic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:58:18 No.16470776 Report

Quoted By: >>16471043

>>16470690
Funny you should say that and post a flaming pile of shit people only tolerate because of its competitive viability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:59:07 No.16470789 Report

Quoted By: >>16470827 >>16471043

>>16470690
What is his tongue for? His pre-evos hide stone in their bubbles to launch like grenades, what does his tongue do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 20:59:21 No.16470796 Report

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>>16470668
>boaring
Ha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:01:19 No.16470827 Report

Quoted By: >>16470847

>>16470789
To look cool, that's it.
He doesn't learn Tongue Lash to use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:03:05 No.16470847 Report

Quoted By: >>16471065

>>16470827
There isn't really a move called Tongue Lash, is there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:03:36 No.16470856 Report

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Gen 1 has the best starters discuss

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:05:03 No.16470871 Report

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>>16468002

I can't fucking wait until Pokebank opens up and I can run a Monoteam of every Gen's Water Starter.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:10:14 No.16470960 Report

Quoted By: >>16471126

Grovyle was the only shitty starter

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:14:17 No.16471031 Report

Quoted By: >>16471097

>>16468002
I love all of them except for Meganium, Typhlosion, Serperior, and Delphox.

The rest are all fantastic.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:14:46 No.16471043 Report

Quoted By: >>16471073 >>16471076

>>16470776

Yes that's totally why he's the most popular gen 6 starter by far, because everyone battles competitively.

personally I didn't believe the leaks when I saw them, because I didn't think gamefreak would make something so cool.

>>16470789

>hide stone

No they don't, what are you talking about. The bubbles are just foam/mucus that they use for protection and weapons. Frog tongues produce mucus so that's probably why Greninja has its tongue out. It might even act as an extra limb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:15:46 No.16471065 Report

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>>16470847
There exists of a move called Lick, at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:16:27 No.16471073 Report

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>>16471043
Only the most popular gen 6 starter because its only competition is an ugly fox in a dress and whatever the fuck shitnaught is supposed to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:16:32 No.16471076 Report

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>>16471043
>Frogadier attacks by launching small stones wrapped in bubbles at its opponents.

From the Pokemon XY site.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:17:22 No.16471097 Report

Quoted By: >>16471185

>>16471031
>Hating Typhlosion and Delphox
>Hating two of the only notable Fire starters that are actually unique.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:18:39 No.16471126 Report

Quoted By: >>16471146

>>16470960
No. Trotera is.

All others are good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:19:35 No.16471146 Report

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>>16471126
>the joke
>
>
>
>your head

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:19:41 No.16471149 Report

Quoted By: >>16471289

>>16470035
>basing your starter on HAs
That applies on all of them though, and only if you weren't going into the game blind or on release.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:19:47 No.16471151 Report

Quoted By: >>16471203

>>16470690
I love how everyone fucking hated his design

but whoops he's decent competitively and now everyone loves him

kinda disgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:21:21 No.16471185 Report

Quoted By: >>16471204 >>16471210

>>16471097
Did you just seriously tell me I should like things solely because they're special snowflakes?

Really, anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:22:26 No.16471203 Report

Quoted By: >>16471223 >>16471304

>>16471151
>everyone fucking hated his design
If by everyone you mean a vocal minority, sure.

Most people had gotten over the tongue long before we knew about Protean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:22:28 No.16471204 Report

Quoted By: >>16471222

>>16471185
Damn straight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:22:50 No.16471210 Report

Quoted By: >>16471254 >>16471255

>>16471185
I think Delphox has a unique design and concept

but I have no idea what the fuck that other Anon is saying about Typhlosion

can't think of anything unique about him

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:23:31 No.16471222 Report

Quoted By: >>16471254

>>16471204
Now THAT'S disgusting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:23:36 No.16471223 Report

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>>16471203
And for people that aren't retarded, the tongue was never an issue. If anything, it was a bad ass, drastic change that made sense, seeing as how frogs have crazy ass tongues anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:24:08 No.16471240 Report

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>>16468164
I neve put my Venusaur in the box in R/B. Never. It should still be there, in my team, waiting that I fight some bitches with him.
I don't know where the game is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:24:38 No.16471254 Report

Quoted By: >>16471287 >>16471310

>>16471210
Really? The only pure fully evolved Fire starter. Dumb ass.
>>16471222
Nice trips, but ur face

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:24:43 No.16471255 Report

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>>16471210
I'm not disagreeing with it being unique or not, I'm questioning liking it BECAUSE it's "unique."

Typhlosion is the poster child for "it just gets bigger" though. Unique my ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:25:15 No.16471267 Report

Quoted By: >>16471293

>>16470690
Wait, that's his tongue, not a scarf?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:26:21 No.16471287 Report

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>>16471254
So so being objectively inferior makes it "unique" and "better"?

The only type that can get away with decent single type starters is Water, but geberally we shouldn't act like they're a good thing. Getting more of them would be just as bad as more Fire/Fighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:26:31 No.16471289 Report

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>>16471149

That reminds me, I kinda wish that they didn't stick such boring abilities on the starters. I know why they do it, but in the end Blaze/Torrent/Overgrow ends up being useless unless you're Empoleon because of SubPetaya or Delphox because Magician is a suck ass ability.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:27:01 No.16471293 Report

Quoted By: >>16471363

>>16471267

You aren't honestly just figuring this out, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:27:32 No.16471304 Report

Quoted By: >>16471346 >>16471429

>>16471203
>vocal minority

You sure we were on the same site man?

When Greninja was leaked there was so much fucking hate for it. Most of the complaints was cause "WHERE ARE MUH FOAM BUBBLES" or "IT LOOKS LIKE A SONIC CHARACTER." Retarded shit like that.

so many people always perfected that fake "it gets bigger" design even though the tongue scarf makes Greninja really unique and actually makes him stand. It also plays to the general theme of the starters they laid out.

That said I think 6th gen starters are really unique and creative and a fuck ton better than that garbage gen 5 was

Delphox's movepool still pisses me off though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:27:39 No.16471310 Report

Quoted By: >>16471331 >>16471381

>>16471254
That's it?

That's all you've got?

Ignoring the fact that in stats, design, moveset, and everything else, it's bland as shit? That being single typed doesn't make it unique, it makes it even blander?

You're an idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:29:03 No.16471331 Report

Quoted By: >>16471348 >>16471381

>>16471310

It gets Eruption, that's something, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:29:53 No.16471346 Report

Quoted By: >>16471377

>>16471304
>That said I think 6th gen starters are really unique and creative and a fuck ton better than that garbage gen 5 was
I kinda disagree on this one. Typing aside, 5's guys all have pretty creative designs and concepts (a thousand times moreso than, say, 2's crapmasters) and while the type on Samurott should have been different, overall they're bretty gud too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:29:55 No.16471348 Report

Quoted By:

>>16471331
the only unique thing about him

I actually like his design but compared to every other fire starter he is bland as shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:30:31 No.16471363 Report

Quoted By:

>>16471293
Well, I did. Still treat it as a scarf nevertheless

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:31:22 No.16471377 Report

Quoted By: >>16471436

>>16471346
I like the designs but the typing and the fact they're fucking useless competitively and outclassed even INGAME is fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:31:29 No.16471381 Report

Quoted By:

>>16471310
Do you feel high and mighty while posting anonymously, dweeb?

Typhlosion is underrated as shit.

>>16471331
>Not Eruption spamman

>>16471310
It's like you can't into easy buttons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:31:35 No.16471383 Report

Quoted By: >>16471404

>>16468002
I love every starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:32:17 No.16471404 Report

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>>16471383
You're a minority.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:33:10 No.16471429 Report

Quoted By: >>16471460 >>16471545 >>16471583

>>16471304

I never understood what people had against Samurott. Yes it was way different from the prevos, and was kind of mediocre, but there is nothing wrong with the design. There's nothing wrong with an otter turning into a giant otter/sealion, no more than a "turtle pokemon" turning into a "shellfish pokemon." The conch, war fan and shell swords were neat ideas too.

If anything they ran out of ideas on Emboar, who was literally a rehash of Infernape, except he was based on a sidekick instead of the hero.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:33:40 No.16471436 Report

Quoted By: >>16471734 >>16471804

>>16471377

As someone who has always, and will only, pick Water starters, it saddens me that the only unique thing about Samurott is that he gets Megahorn.
I still love him, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:34:30 No.16471460 Report

Quoted By: >>16471509

>>16471429
>no more than a "turtle pokemon" turning into a "shellfish pokemon."
In what universe does a turtle pokemon become something that isn't a turtle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:37:15 No.16471509 Report

Quoted By: >>16471569

>>16471460

Blastoise.

Yes, I realize it still highly resembles a turtle, just like how Samurott still highly resembles an otter.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:39:11 No.16471545 Report

Quoted By: >>16471592

>>16471429

Also, I completely blame Emboar for the fact that Samurott isn't water/fighting. Seriously what fucking shit Pokemon, not only did they phone it in but it ruined Samurott's potential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:39:52 No.16471569 Report

Quoted By:

>>16471509
Samurott is obviously a sea lion in the same way Blastoise is obviously a turtle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:40:00 No.16471572 Report

Quoted By:

>>16470246
a-at least it gets Dazzling Gleam

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:40:33 No.16471583 Report

Quoted By:

>>16471429
I'll always love Samurott. I'm glad the minority has grown more vocal too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:41:13 No.16471592 Report

Quoted By: >>16471647 >>16471655 >>16471686

>>16471545
>Samurott didn't get Sacred or Secret Sword
;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:43:52 No.16471647 Report

Quoted By: >>16471685

>>16471592
>Samurott will inevitably get a Water/Steel or Water/Fighting mega

There's still hope anon. Why they decided to give such sub par stats to such an amazing design is beyond me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:44:07 No.16471655 Report

Quoted By: >>16471684

>>16471592

Maybe he can get it this Gen.

Crawdaunt got Aqua Jet by breeding this Gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:45:53 No.16471684 Report

Quoted By:

>>16471655
Really? Aw shit, time to raise a new one with this move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:45:55 No.16471685 Report

Quoted By: >>16471716

>>16471647

Why not just change its typing? Seriously there's nothing sacred about it just because it's a starter, I'm sure everyone will be happier if it was water/fighting with sacred sword and shell smash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:46:00 No.16471686 Report

Quoted By: >>16471716 >>16471726 >>16472194

>>16471592

Or Shell Smash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:47:24 No.16471716 Report

Quoted By: >>16472194

>>16471685
>>16471686
I want Shell Smash on Blastoise too while we're at it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:47:31 No.16471718 Report

Quoted By: >>16471781

I don't like that it's always Grass/Fire/Water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:48:05 No.16471726 Report

Quoted By: >>16471753 >>16471800

>>16471686
Shell Smash doesn't really make sense on Samurott tho. Then again, we've seen weirder movepools.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:48:22 No.16471734 Report

Quoted By: >>16471757 >>16471760 >>16471782 >>16471812 >>16472113

>>16471436

At least it's a bit harder to replace in game than the other starters in game. The only other water Pokemon you'd use over it would be Carracosta and Jellicent, one which comes by the time you should have Samurott, and I actually don't know how Carracosta performs. Always picked Archeops over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:49:22 No.16471753 Report

Quoted By: >>16471818

>>16471726

What? It makes perfect sense. It's practically built as a mixed sweeper, but with shitty speed. Shell Smash is exactly what it needs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:49:33 No.16471757 Report

Quoted By:

>>16471734

>Carracosta
>Has Sturdy Shellsmash and Aqua Jet

He's okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:49:44 No.16471760 Report

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>>16471734
Carracosta is terrible. Shit speed, sp. def and x3 weakness to the omnipresent Grass types in Unova.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:50:44 No.16471781 Report

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>>16471718
Why not? You finally got your long awaited Fighting/Psychic/Dark triangle in Chesnaught, Delphox, and Greninja.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:50:45 No.16471782 Report

Quoted By:

>>16471734

Carracosta is a one trick pony with Sturdy + Shell Smash/Aqua Jet. In game it's pretty shit just like every slow pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:51:53 No.16471800 Report

Quoted By: >>16471887

>>16471726
How does it not make sense when he has a shell on his head, and his pre-evos had their own shells respectively? Shell Smash is a move that rightfully should've gone to Samurott, but he got cheated out of it, especially considering how much more OP he could've been.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:52:12 No.16471804 Report

Quoted By:

>>16471436
Megahorn Samurott is pretty good, it gives some okay coverage with the water STAB and hits opposing water types better than something like Ice Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:52:23 No.16471812 Report

Quoted By:

>>16470690
They're video game characters. How well they actually perform in the game is certainly a big factor in how good they are.

>>16471734
It gets Shell Smash by level up. Kind of late-ish from what I remember but you'll definitely have it before you actually fight the Elite Four. If you have one with Sturdy then you're practically guaranteed to sweep teams with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:52:30 No.16471818 Report

Quoted By: >>16471853 >>16471863

>>16471753
I mean conceptually. Shell Smash is about a shelled pokemon "shedding its armor" so to speak, thus increasing its speed and attack but lowering its defense. Samurott isn't shelled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:53:43 No.16471853 Report

Quoted By:

>>16471818

>Samurott isn't shelled.
>HA is Shell Armour

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:53:56 No.16471863 Report

Quoted By: >>16471887 >>16471923

>>16471818

oh, i'm sorry, i mistook those things on its head and neck and limbs as shells.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:55:14 No.16471887 Report

Quoted By: >>16471918 >>16471923

>>16471863
The helmet is a shell.

>>16471800

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Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:57:06 No.16471918 Report

Quoted By: >>16471950

>>16471887

IS IT?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:57:21 No.16471923 Report

Quoted By: >>16471950 >>16471959 >>16471995

>>16471887
>>16471863
>carrying shell ornaments is being shelled
Okay

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:58:52 No.16471950 Report

Quoted By: >>16472022

>>16471923
>Nit-picking to the point that they have to be completely shelled to use Shell Smash

But that's retarded, anon.

>>16471918
IS IT?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 21:59:09 No.16471959 Report

Quoted By: >>16471995 >>16471997 >>16472022 >>16472053

>>16471923

>Gorebyss
>Huntail

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 22:01:06 No.16471995 Report

Quoted By:

>>16471959
ding ding ding, we have a winner!
>>16471923
Go fuck yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 22:01:12 No.16471997 Report

Quoted By:

>>16471959
Gorebyss has that shell bikini thing, Huntail.. the head fin? Oh well, it doesn't stop me using Huntail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 22:02:14 No.16472022 Report

Quoted By:

>>16471950
Every other pokemon that learns it is a defensive shelled creature that is weighed down by its shell. Samurott isn't one.

>>16471959
>Clamperl
And
>one retarded move justifying another
Anyway, I did say we've seen weirder movepools.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 22:03:15 No.16472053 Report

Quoted By: >>16472090

>>16471959
Mainly because of Clamperl being a shelled Pokemon. Gorebyss and Huntail only know it because Gamefreak is too lazy to program a Pokemon losing one of its moves upon evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 22:03:50 No.16472067 Report

Quoted By:

>>16469054

>not grinding during a nuzlocke run

Impossible. Heck I'm doing romhacks right now and they're mostly way fucking harder, and even with a good amount of grinding my death count is absurd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 22:04:56 No.16472090 Report

Quoted By: >>16472145

>>16472053
>programming to lose certain moves on evolution
pls no, its bad enough having to raise a clampearl to its 50s for a move, Shell Smash is the only thing saving its evolutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 22:05:45 No.16472113 Report

Quoted By:

>>16471734

Samurott is the only starter in Unova I've used more than once for this reason, apart from the fact it's my favourite, of course.

Also Carracosta is a resounding "okay". He survived my Nuzlocke, at least. Swanna also isn't actually that bad for the ingame, gets great STAB movepool for level up moves.

Unova is a region where there really aren't that many decent Water types though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 22:07:11 No.16472145 Report

Quoted By:

>>16472090
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want it to happen either (I love Gorebyss' design and I'm glad it has something making it useful) but it's pretty obvious that Gorebyss/Huntail only have it because of laziness.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 22:07:43 No.16472154 Report

Quoted By:

>>16469054

Actually no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Dec 2013 22:10:01 No.16472194 Report

Quoted By:

>>16471716
>>16471686
I want Chesnaught to get Shell Smash

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