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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 19:56:17 No.16490966 View View Reply Original Report

>mfw the 49th trainer's final Pokemon defeats me in Maison Super Singles

Fucking why? I've tried to get the 50 win streak so many times. I was sure I'd succeed this time but of course I was defeated at the final moment. How do I git gud?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:00:01 No.16491004 Report

Quoted By: >>16491149 >>16491357

You don't, dude. The game literally builds teams specifically to defeat yours based on the strategies you employ in prior battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:01:42 No.16491030 Report

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Just build one competitive team and flip one or two of them out every so often. It's a bitch, there's a reason people complain all the time about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:02:09 No.16491033 Report

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>>16490966
keep interchanging mons to throw the game off

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:08:17 No.16491135 Report

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I lost on the 48th round earlier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:08:44 No.16491149 Report

Quoted By: >>16491183 >>16491241 >>16491268 >>16491353 >>16491379 >>16491748

>>16491004
No, there are ways to counter the computer's counters by building your team around your weaknesses and immunities. For example, I lead with Mega Kanga and have Gengar as a back up when the computer decides to use Fighting types: those two work like a charm together. However, my third Pokemon is always the weak link. I used Metagross earlier but since Gengar and Metagross are both weak to Dark the AI started spamming Dark moves from all directions. Then I used Greninja but I lost to Scarf Landorus spamming Focus Miss when my Gengar was down. Trick Room also caused me trouble when I had three fast Pokemon. I've come to the conclusion that my final Pokemon has to fill these requirements:
>Low Speed, to take advantage of opponent's Trick Room
>Bulky
>Not weak Fighting, Ghost, Psychic or Dark (preferably resists at least some of these)
>Has Water type moves, since the AI likes to shit on me with Entei and Flame Charge Moltres
>Preferably Special attacker so it won't become useless if the opponent has Will-O-Wisp (Guts works too)

And the problem is that I can't think of any Pokemon that fits all these requirements. Any tips?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:10:52 No.16491183 Report

Quoted By: >>16491313

>>16491149
Clawitzer with no speed and good health?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:13:43 No.16491241 Report

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>>16491149
i feel like i have a great answer for your woe for this but my mind is being a fart right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:15:02 No.16491268 Report

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>>16491149
i want to say ludicolo but it would only be resisting fighting

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:15:22 No.16491277 Report

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Jusyt go in super doubles, and spam EQ with a ground type like Diggersby or Mamoswine, and Discharge with a Rotom. Once one of them dies, switch in something that plays the role of a fast attacker. I got to a win streak of 60+ because of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:17:22 No.16491313 Report

Quoted By: >>16491339

>>16491183
Yeah, that could work. I wonder why I didn't think of Clawitzer myself?

Clawitzer @ Assault Vest
252 HP / 252 Special Attack / 4 Special Defense
Quiet Nature
-Water Pulse
-Ice Beam
-Dragon Pulse
-Aura Sphere

Or, I could use Rotom-W but I really don't like Hydro Pump's crappy accuracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:18:40 No.16491339 Report

Quoted By: >>16491449

>>16491313
Get rid of Dragon Pulse and run Dark Pulse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:19:14 No.16491353 Report

Quoted By: >>16491395 >>16491449

>>16491149
It doesn't really fit the water type requirement, but what about Togekiss?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:19:34 No.16491357 Report

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>>16491004
Is this confirmed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:21:00 No.16491379 Report

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>>16491149
Gastrodon has bulk, STAB Scald, and access to reliable recovery. Any Maison 'mon without Grass type coverage moves generally has a tough time getting rid of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:21:43 No.16491392 Report

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Could try guys ursaring

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:21:57 No.16491395 Report

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>>16491353
Almost anything with fairy typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:24:54 No.16491449 Report

Quoted By: >>16491526 >>16493052

>>16491339
Why is Dark Pulse better than Dragon Pulse? I don't see Dark Pulse giving any significant boost in coverage whereas Dragon and Water have a nice overall coverage together.

>>16491353
-Special attacker, check
-Resists Dark and Fighting
...Is Togekiss bulky?
>Checking
Holy shit, Togekiss is way bulkier than I thought. I might actually try this guy. ParaFlinch hax all day erry day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:29:38 No.16491526 Report

Quoted By: >>16491651 >>16491786

>>16491449
Because Ice Beam will hit most dragons harder dragon pulse. So having the two is pretty redundant.

Dark pulse gives you s.e. against psychics and ghost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:30:24 No.16491543 Report

Quoted By: >>16491693

You could always just use Truant Entrainment Durant. Lead with a Focus Sash or a Choice Scarf, stick Truant on the lead, switch to something with a boosting move and Protect, boost during Truant turns and Protect during other turns, and sweep with the boosts.

Pretty boring and slow after a while, but it certain gets the job done better than most things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:36:50 No.16491651 Report

Quoted By: >>16491786

>>16491526
Fair enough. I guess I have two choices now:

Clawitzer @ Assault Vest
252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
-Water Pulse
-Dark Pulse
-Ice Beam
-Aura Sphere

Or:

Togekiss @ Leftovers (?)
252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Def
Modes Nature
-Thunder Wave
-Air Slash
-Aura Sphere
-Dazzling Gleam

I guess I'll try them both and see which one works better.

I also wanted to try a bulky offensive Gastrodon with Surf / Ice Beam / Earth Power but I then I realized Gastrodon can't get Earth Power until Pokebank is released. Seriously, what the fuck is Game Freak doing? They're giving Earth Power as a level-up move almost exclusively to physical attackers. What sense does that make?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:39:44 No.16491693 Report

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>>16491543
Based on what I've heard, this doesn't work anymore. The AI starts switching out or leading with Mons that have Protect and thus make Durant waste a turn due to Truant and then roast it with Fire moves. Also, that's so tedious and slow that by the time I finally make it to 50, I could have made it to 40+ at least four times with more straightforward strategies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:42:19 No.16491748 Report

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>>16491149
Restalk Calm Mind Power Gem Carbink
*Azumarill
Cosmic/Stored Power Clefable
Trick Room Aromatisse
**Toxic Scald Wish Vaporeon
**Storm Drain Gastrodon (can Stockpile or Curse if needed)
Rotom-Wash
**Assault Vest Dragalge
Foul Play Mandibuzz
Priority HP/Att EV Talonflame *can't be burned
Poison Heal Gliscor
Storm Drain Cradily
Regenerator Tangrowth
Quagsire
*Solid Rock Camerupt (Ancient Power/Stone Edge)
Dragon Dance Whiscash (don't Dance when TR)
Solid Rock Rhyperior
Lickilicky
Exploud
Snorlax
Power Split or Infestation Shuckle
Scizor
*Moody Octillery
**Clawitzer

*Mons that fit
**Mons that best fit
Everything else: mons that fit most and are worth considering.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:42:26 No.16491750 Report

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just got through the final stretch practically holding my breath with each battle. Used kanga, greninja, and aegislash. Was about to chuck my 3ds at the wall when Landorus Fissured both kanga and greninja, leaving my aegislash to do all the work, BARELY earning the victory. I finally lost on 73 against exeggcutor, trevenant, and gothitelle.
>Mkanga used crunch
>Sitrus Berry Exeggcutor survived, used trick room
>Exeggcutor used Explosion. Critical Hit! MKanga dead.
>I use Greninja. They sent out Trevenant...fuck! (Either switch and get ShadowBalled, or stay and get Grass'd)
>Try to use Dark Pulse, get Energy Balled...Critical Hit!
>Aegislash time. Used Swords Dance.
>Get Shadow Balled. Lowers SpD. Leftovers gives a bit.
>Kings Shield. Leftovers. Trick Room over.
>Aegis used Shadow Sneak. Trev used Trick Room. I win with another desperate Shadow Sneak.
>Sends out Gothilette. I use King's shield. She uses Psych Up (wut?)
>she uses Substitute (goes first, in TR, wut?!) I use Shadow sneak. Sub broken.
>King's shield, levtovers. Goth used Substitute.
>She uses Psychic, Critical, lowers SpD (Aegis a little less than half). Aegis used Iron Head, it missed (ah, she has brightpowder...shit)
>King's Shield; need life. She uses Flatter.
I see where this is going.
>She uses Psychic, lowers SpD; in red now.
>Iron Head breaks Substitue.
Only one way for me to win...
>I use Shadow Sneak. Aegis confused. It...
FUCK!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:43:46 No.16491775 Report

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>>16490966
>the image's filename isn't Anger Point

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:44:11 No.16491786 Report

Quoted By: >>16491823 >>16491885

>>16491526
>>16491651
You forgot about Clauncher's ability. Dragon pulse will hit way harder than ice beam (125.7 to 90) but you sacrifice the coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:46:22 No.16491820 Report

Quoted By: >>16491962 >>16492109

Diggersby is my main.
Diggersby (M) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Return
- Earthquake
- Quick Attack
- Wild Charge

Any recs for good teammates? I wanted to use Clefable but I found out that having one with Magic Guard, Softboiled, and good IVs is extremely unlikely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:46:27 No.16491823 Report

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>>16491786
Clawitzer, 127.5
Fuck I suck at this typing thing.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:48:58 No.16491877 Report

Quoted By: >>16492286

Hey guys don't worry about that scary Monsieur Harris, I'll keep you safe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:49:32 No.16491885 Report

Quoted By: >>16492035

>>16491786
Because Dragon Pulse will hit Dragonite harder than Ice beam.
Or Garchomp, or Salamence, or the other half dragons that are x4 weak to ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:52:08 No.16491940 Report

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Interrupting and switching around leads seemed to beat out the team generator for me. I made it all the way through the 50 rounds and defeated Nita using only Rotom-W, Dragonite and Mawile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:53:18 No.16491962 Report

Quoted By: >>16492017

>>16491820
Just use Magic Guard + Moonlight. Easy gen 6 IVs, and weather is hardly a concern in Maison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:56:19 No.16492017 Report

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>>16491962
M-Moonlight? It gets Moonlight? That's fantastic, thanks.
Only thing that would effect would be if they decide to set up not-sun weather.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 20:57:16 No.16492035 Report

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>>16491885
It's a toss-up, since I know a few of the opponent's sets use a yache to drop the effectiveness of ice in half. Or use a focus sash so it doesn't really matter how hard the first hit is.

But I'd go with Ice Beam anyway for the coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 21:02:03 No.16492109 Report

Quoted By: >>16492212

>>16491820
Always build your teammates based on your lead's weaknesses. Diggersby is weak to Fighting, Water, Grass, and Ice, so you're looking for Pokes that resist those types. Aegislash seems like an ideal teammate since it resists/is immune to three of those four types. The problem with Aegi is that it has the tendency of baiting out bulky Earthquake users so you'll want to be prepared for them. Some bulky Water type would be a good third teammate. Actually, you should try using (bulky) Gyarados.

>Lead with Diggersby
>When you see Fighting, Grass or Ice coming, switch into Aegislash
>When you see EQ coming, switch into Gyarados
>When Gyarados baits out an Electric Mon, switch to Digger
>When you see Water attack coming, switch to Gyarados

Those three guys can work around each other's weaknesses pretty well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 21:06:12 No.16492212 Report

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>>16492109
Sounds like a good team, I could try them out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 21:06:33 No.16492221 Report

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>tfw get swept by Rhydon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 21:09:50 No.16492286 Report

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>>16491877
That fucking face before he sends out all the legendaries. There's no way I can fully express my hate towards those veteran trainers.

Rogelio [3153-4036-8194] [Munna, Espurr,Gothorita]

Rogelio [3153-4036-8194] [Munna, Espurr,Gothorita] Thu 05 Dec 2013 21:33:09 No.16492667 Report

Quoted By: >>16492892

Recently lost my 175 streak to a fucking focus sashed infernape. Just started farming the Lansat berry I got to give away soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 21:35:11 No.16492707 Report

Quoted By: >>16492989

How far has everyone else got and with what teams? I made it to 73 and lost because I misclicked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 21:43:27 No.16492867 Report

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The fisrt time I tried Super singles i had:
MKanga
-EQ
-Aerial Ace
-P-up punch
-Crunch
Scizor @lum berry
-Bullet punch
-Aerial Ace
-Swords dance
-X-scissor
Sylveon @leftovers
-Protect
-Wish
-Moonblast
-Baton pass
I made up to 58 and lost to a Close combat Staraptor.

I'm trying right now Clawitzer, Trevenant and Smogonbird. I think this may work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 21:45:20 No.16492892 Report

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>>16492667
What was your team?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 21:51:27 No.16492989 Report

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>>16492707
>asks for people to share teams
>doesn't share his own team

C'mon dude, learn how to post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2013 21:54:28 No.16493052 Report

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>>16491449

Togekiss is the go-to for flinch.

Skill Link Cloyster with the flinch hold item is good, but still miles worse than Togekiss.

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