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Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 01:57:08 No.16516563 View View Reply Original Report

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You have 5 seconds to describe how you can beat this mother fucker easily

Yea that's right. You can't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 01:58:07 No.16516584 Report

Quoted By: >>16516915

OHKO with Ice Shard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 01:58:52 No.16516591 Report

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anything with an icebeam

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 01:58:54 No.16516594 Report

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ice shard all day errday

or ice beam from the ninja frog will net a ko every single time

not to mention scarfed out metal ancient bug

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 01:59:27 No.16516604 Report

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Powder Snow

>pic related, this was literally the captcha for this post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 01:59:37 No.16516608 Report

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>>16516563
It loses Rough Skin upon Mega Evolution. My Kangaskhan runs all over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 01:59:39 No.16516609 Report

Quoted By: >>16517432

>Gengar used Dazzling Gleam!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:00:23 No.16516621 Report

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>>16516563
avalanche

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:02:32 No.16516652 Report

Quoted By: >>16520309 >>16524112

>>16516563
When I use CharX, I beat him with Outrage thanks to the speed drop of Mega Garchomp. If it doesn't mega evolve, I'm fucked. And with my shiny CharY, I just attack with Dragon Pulse, trying to inflict some damage.

Also, if I successfully put a Sticky Web, my CharX rapes normal Garchomp. CharY still doesn't have a chance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:13:55 No.16516915 Report

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>>16516584
just ran calcs off unbanded weavile
I was surprised, no dice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:15:13 No.16516941 Report

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>greninja outspeeds and used STAB ice beam
>mega chomp dies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:15:36 No.16516950 Report

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Gourgeist's fat ass bulks whatever it has and then burns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:16:12 No.16516963 Report

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Ice Shard

or maybe Ice beam because its so SLOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:20:00 No.16517044 Report

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>>16516563
Noivern walks in on an earthquake.
Noivern uses draco meteor.

Klefki swaggers it to hell before I sacrifice some mon that did it's part earlier if confusion doesn't rape it.
Ditto revenge smashes it's face in, steals whatever boosts it gave itself plus the +atk from swaggers, and proceeds to rape the rest of the team.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:20:21 No.16517050 Report

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>>16516563

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:26:33 No.16517157 Report

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>>16517050
They sometimes carry poison jab now due to fairies(they prefer iron head from what i can tell) but yes that would fuck over alot of garchomps since they usually put iron head in the slot they usually had for ice/fire fang.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:26:40 No.16517162 Report

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>>16517050
You like the taste of those Fire Blasts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:28:33 No.16517190 Report

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>>16517050

>le fire blast face

Go back to that thread about you having sturdy, sheddy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:29:44 No.16517207 Report

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>>16517050
>MegaChomp
>Without Sand or Rocks support

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:29:53 No.16517209 Report

Quoted By: >>16517259 >>16517284

Ice shard on mammoswine with 252 ev in attack. Ohko

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:32:56 No.16517259 Report

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>>16517209

It only OHKOs if he's Adamant@LO or Jolly@CB

If he's using a sash it isn't happening.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:33:05 No.16517264 Report

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>>16517157
>Poison Jab
>Super effective

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:34:22 No.16517284 Report

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>>16517209
There is nothing unbeatable about M-Chomp. Its strong and after SD will run shop, works really great with Sticky Web support. But its easily killed by alot of shit and simply attack it. Its not going to outspeed you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:35:27 No.16517306 Report

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>>16516563
Moonblast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:35:48 No.16517316 Report

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>>16517207
That's easy. Just do what I do and rape the stealth rocker with fire.

>>16517264
gen1 weakness mechanic got stuck in my head? sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:36:21 No.16517327 Report

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>>16517157
> Ice fang
> Super effective

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:37:02 No.16517350 Report

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Took one down with a mega mawile not that long ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:37:19 No.16517355 Report

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>>16516563
quagsire takes massive shits all over megachomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:40:08 No.16517416 Report

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>>16517355
252 Atk Mega Garchomp Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 193-228 (48.9 - 57.8%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO / guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

With Sand Force, EQ 2HKOs without SR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:41:02 No.16517432 Report

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>>16516609
don't think that's a one-hit KO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:41:39 No.16517440 Report

Quoted By: >>16517480

>>16517416
Mega Garchomp have enough Special Attack to carry Draco Meteor and shit on Unaware Quagsire, actually

And in fact, in most physical walls trying to stop it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:43:47 No.16517480 Report

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>>16517440
This. Mixed Mega Garchomp is scary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:50:57 No.16517615 Report

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>>16517327
ok. time to sleep.. my brain is clearly stuck in gen1 tonight for no apparent reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:51:33 No.16517626 Report

Quoted By: >>16517669

ice shard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:54:17 No.16517669 Report

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>>16517626
MegaChomp have 106/115/95 Bulk. Since is slower and you plan your team around MegaChomp, you can easily invest in its bulk rather than its speed.

MegaChomp is a tank and a wallbreaker at the same time. Kinda like MegaCross, with two main differences:
- Can attack from both sides
- Smogonbird can't shit on MegaChomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:56:57 No.16517719 Report

Quoted By: >>16517744 >>16517799 >>16517903

Gardevoir with energy ball or dazzling gleam. Shut the fuck up OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 02:58:29 No.16517744 Report

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>>16517719
>Energy Ball
>Dazzling Gleam over Moonblast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 03:01:34 No.16517799 Report

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>>16517719
252 Atk Mega Garchomp Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gardevoir: 285-336 (102.5 - 120.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

hhehehe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 03:02:27 No.16517815 Report

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>>16517744
>All the dragons people are using
>MegaEdgyzardX
>Salamance
>Chomperz
>All on a single team
I play doubles so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 03:07:21 No.16517903 Report

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>>16517719
Energy Ball isn't STAB nor SE, its neutral to Chomp it won't do shit. Moonblast will OHKO if your Garde outspeeds

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 03:09:26 No.16517939 Report

Quoted By: >>16518281 >>16518289

>Lanturn confused it on the switch
>Megavolved into Mega Garchomp
>hit itself in confusion
>Lanturn used Ice Beam
>hit itself in confusion again
>mfw Lanturn beat Mega Garchomp and proceeded to kill Greninja and almost Talonflame next

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 03:17:41 No.16518096 Report

Quoted By: >>16518247 >>16518279

So what, does mega chomp have that Choice Chomp does not?
This is a real question I want to see which one I should use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 03:21:57 No.16518165 Report

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>>16516563

Jolly Kanga without even needing the Mega so long as you lead with Fake Out. Return does the rest of the work for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 03:22:29 No.16518173 Report

Quoted By: >>16518262

Avalugg. That's enough of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 03:26:01 No.16518247 Report

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>>16518096
The ability to switch moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 03:27:02 No.16518262 Report

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>>16518173
>Draco Meteor
>Implying M-Garchomp isn't best mixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 03:27:25 No.16518279 Report

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>>16518096
4 moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 03:27:38 No.16518281 Report

Quoted By: >>16520044

>>16517939
You would've killed all three if you had used Rotom-W instead of Lanturn. Why do you shoot yourself in the foot like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 03:28:03 No.16518289 Report

Quoted By: >>16520044

>>16517939
so you got lucky faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 03:35:02 No.16518424 Report

Quoted By: >>16518817

>HP Ice
I have it on my jolteon and galvantula, gets the dumb fucker every time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 03:57:48 No.16518817 Report

Quoted By: >>16519596

>>16518424
OHKO?

Osama 4441-9476-6004 (Seviper Venemoth Toxicroak)

Osama 4441-9476-6004 (Seviper Venemoth Toxicroak) Sat 07 Dec 2013 04:09:49 No.16519041 Report

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>>16516563
Fired an Ice Beam right up it's ass from Vaporeon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 04:39:17 No.16519596 Report

Quoted By: >>16519624 >>16519632 >>16519671

>>16518817
No

252+ SpA Jolteon Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 292-348 (81.7 - 97.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Garchomp: 272-320 (76.1 - 89.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Galvantula has less special attack so it does even less. Which then they both get OHKO by EQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 04:40:48 No.16519624 Report

Quoted By: >>16519858

>>16519596
>252+ SpA
>Jolteon running anything but Timid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 04:41:07 No.16519632 Report

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>>16519596
I run Life Orb Galv and Specs Jolteon soooo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 04:41:45 No.16519648 Report

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Mamoswine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 04:42:17 No.16519663 Report

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>>16517259
>Mega Garchomp
>Focus Sash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 04:42:52 No.16519671 Report

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>>16519596
>no Life Orb

That said, even with Life Orb a Modest Jolteon can only OHKO Mega Garchomp if it has little or no investment in its HP/SpD.

However the Garchomp will be severely damaged and vulnerable to whatever switches in after the Jolteon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 04:46:30 No.16519756 Report

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Narutoad OHKO's it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 04:51:29 No.16519858 Report

Quoted By: >>16519952

>>16519624
It was to showcase how much Jolteon could potentially do without the use of a held item, so U gave it as much help as possible.

Unless your Spece'd or LO your not OHKO Garchomp or M-Chomp with it and those are calcs without HP investment in Chomp which is common

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 04:56:20 No.16519952 Report

Quoted By: >>16520005 >>16520077

>>16519858

Could anything take 2 outrages? Other than a fairy type I guess. Or I guess it kinda was the whole point to fairy type. I mean togekiss is immune to both of its stabs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 05:00:15 No.16520005 Report

Quoted By: >>16520103

>>16519952

Skamory, Ferrothorn, Forretress, and many other steel types. But then there is fire blast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 05:00:27 No.16520010 Report

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>>16516563
>dies to powder snow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 05:03:30 No.16520044 Report

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>>16518281
>>16518289
>hating lanturn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 05:05:53 No.16520077 Report

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>>16519952
Pretty much any Steel type

One of the reasons Steel types are so great is you can switch them in while someone is locked into Outrage without taking much damage and then attack back/buff/whatever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 05:06:03 No.16520080 Report

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>>16516563
>Weavile
>Ice Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 05:07:35 No.16520103 Report

Quoted By: >>16520227

>>16520005
The upside to a Garchomp with fire moves is that it's basically guaranteed not to have Stone Edge /Iron Head / Poison Jab. Which means Fairies, and Togekiss in particular can basically Faint Garchomp/M-Garchomp without fear. Steels and Fairies are the best two Pokemon to screw over Dragons. If they carry coverage for one they don't always/usually have something for the other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 05:16:07 No.16520227 Report

Quoted By: >>16520253 >>16520291

>>16520103

well what kind of set would M garchomp have?

>earthquake
>Outrage
>Stone edge
>Fire blast

No room for swords dance though, but should cover every major threat that he faces.... Except azumaril... fuck this might be impossible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 05:17:47 No.16520253 Report

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>>16520227

Drop Outrage for meteor; the entire reason to use M-Garchomp is to be mixed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 05:19:40 No.16520291 Report

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>>16520227
Earthquake
Outrage/Dragon Claw
Fire Fang/Fire Blast
Poison Jab/Iron Head

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 05:20:57 No.16520309 Report

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>>16516652
>And with my shiny CharY,
Was there any reason to mention it was a shiny?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 05:26:33 No.16520426 Report

Quoted By: >>16520479

I run

SD / EQ / Draco Meteor / Stone Miss on my Garchomp. Is there anything I can replace Stone Miss for? I used to to use Poison Jab but changed to Stone Edge for coverage. I can't deal with it missing all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 05:29:12 No.16520471 Report

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It's even easier to stop than non-mega Garchomp, can't be scarfed and only 92 base spe. Togekiss walls it to hell if it doesn't carry Stone Edge, and other Dragons will outspeed and OHKO it.

Mega Chomp really isn't that good lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 05:29:40 No.16520479 Report

Quoted By: >>16520719

>>16520426
Poison Jab or Iron Head for Fairies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 05:40:17 No.16520719 Report

Quoted By: >>16520759 >>16521041

>>16520479

better make it poison jab because azumaril

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 05:42:06 No.16520759 Report

Quoted By: >>16521041

>>16520719
I'm not sure if Poison Jab can even KO Togekiss or Azumarill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 05:56:49 No.16521041 Report

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>>16520719
>>16520759

252 Atk Garchomp Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Togekiss: 144-170 (38.5 - 45.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252 Atk Garchomp Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 212-250 (52.4 - 61.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 09:58:28 No.16524112 Report

Quoted By: >>16524205

>>16516652
Why do you use Outrage? Isn't 130 base attack + touch claws + STAB Dclaw enough power?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 10:02:18 No.16524144 Report

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Next?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 10:09:59 No.16524205 Report

Quoted By: >>16524217

>>16524112
dat outrage power doe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 10:12:18 No.16524217 Report

Quoted By: >>16524229

>>16524205
Enjoy having fairys switch in

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 10:13:54 No.16524229 Report

Quoted By: >>16524244

>>16524217
You gotta take risks if you want to win, also you could just wait until there Fairy is gone before you Outrage.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 10:15:34 No.16524244 Report

Quoted By: >>16524252

>>16524229
>fairys
>gone

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 10:17:15 No.16524252 Report

Quoted By: >>16524262

>>16524244
Epic argument /b/ro!!1!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 10:18:39 No.16524262 Report

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>>16524252
*tips fedora*

meff 0774-4447-7940 (Meditite, Pancham, Hariyama IGN: Dylan)

meff 0774-4447-7940 (Meditite, Pancham, Hariyama IGN: Dylan) Sat 07 Dec 2013 10:23:41 No.16524301 Report

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>>16516563
Choice Scarf Imposter ditto.

Dieclowns !dOiwb8itEI

Dieclowns !dOiwb8itEI Sat 07 Dec 2013 10:29:19 No.16524343 Report

Quoted By: >>16525384

Any dragon that breaks 92 speed due to Mega garchomp get his speed lowered from 102 to 92 in mega form.....this makes him bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 12:41:14 No.16525202 Report

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Foul Play

0791-1404-4959 (3633) (571) (2813) (2541)

Mouske

0791-1404-4959 (3633) (571) (2813) (2541) Sat 07 Dec 2013 12:57:32 No.16525323 Report

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>>16516563
bellydrum and aqua jet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 13:04:36 No.16525379 Report

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sableye/m-banette

>will-o-wisp
>confuse ray

good luck garchomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 13:05:46 No.16525384 Report

Quoted By: >>16525411 >>16525420

>>16524343
>I haven't played Pokemon but I'm going to call one of the best megas bad bc idk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 13:08:59 No.16525411 Report

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>>16525384
>Garchomp
>best

you had me there for a second

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 13:10:04 No.16525420 Report

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>>16525384

>M-garchomp
>one of the best megas

nigga you cray

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 13:49:54 No.16525769 Report

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>>16517480
What people forget to realize is that this thing is Kyurem-B with a actual move-pool and useful STABs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 13:51:06 No.16525781 Report

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Protean the water starter ice beam that took 4 secs to type

3969-4047-7567 - IGN Pat Bew - Fire Charmeleon-Magmar-Barixen

3969-4047-7567 - IGN Pat Bew - Fire Charmeleon-Magmar-Barixen Sat 07 Dec 2013 13:55:56 No.16525824 Report

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Toxic Stall Blissey, done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 17:02:55 No.16528131 Report

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Take its kamui

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 17:34:38 No.16528533 Report

Quoted By: >>16528583

>The opposing Garchomp used Earthquake!
>Greninja held on with Focus Sash!
>Greninja used Ice Beam!
>It's super effective!
>The opposing Garchomp fainted!

every fucking time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 17:38:46 No.16528583 Report

Quoted By: >>16528599

>>16528533
>my frog is now pointless
>I win!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 17:40:05 No.16528599 Report

Quoted By: >>16528607

>>16528583
>my mega is gone
>I win!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 17:40:58 No.16528607 Report

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>>16528599
>he thinks a mega is the only strategy

My mega is basically there for insurance unless it's kanga.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 Dec 2013 17:50:14 No.16528715 Report

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