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ITT: Cancer

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:17:51 No.16549928 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16550045 >>16550125 >>16550210 >>16550820 >>16551585 >>16551781 >>16553794 >>16554777 >>16555294 >>16563665

>Smogon wash machine
>Rocks, toxic spikes, sticky web, any sutrdy7sash entry setters.
>Mega-Khan, Mega anything else
>Scarf DracoLatios, scarf OutrageChomp, Scarf U-turnGenesect, Scarf CloseCombatTerrakion, Scarf-anything else.
>Toxic - Protect- leftovers - Recover/Roost/hydration+rest
>Eviolite Chancey/Porygon2/Dusclops

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:18:36 No.16549948 Report

Quoted By: >>16549980

git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:20:36 No.16549980 Report

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>>16549948
wif Blakizen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:20:51 No.16549988 Report

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it's not that it is cancer, it i just fucking boring to see the same mon and the only people who are bitching about things like gengarite and smogon bird and people who can't wait for the pokebank to open so they can play their shitty gen5 team but even then gen 5 teams did something besides stall for 20 turns

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:24:18 No.16550045 Report

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>>16549928
you forgot to include talonflame

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Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:28:14 No.16550125 Report

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>>16549928
"Oh no! People are using strategies that allow me to peak these Pokemon to the best of their abilities! Better call them cancer because I can't win with m-muh bros!"

git gud fgt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:30:58 No.16550177 Report

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The fact that they are overused just makes it easier to counter teams.

kikinak !!Y3C8ha6JZNn

kikinak !!Y3C8ha6JZNn Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:31:29 No.16550188 Report

Quoted By: >>16550637 >>16551753 >>16551997 >>16552165 >>16552454

>>16550125
Bitch please
http://pastebin.com/GwubNMri

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:32:36 No.16550210 Report

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>>16549928
You act like Dusclops is even above the RU threshold.

Try Smogontree.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:35:50 No.16550283 Report

Quoted By: >>16550406 >>16550460

Simulators are the cancer.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:36:05 No.16550289 Report

Quoted By: >>16550551 >>16552542 >>16552583 >>16554413

>Kangaskhan is worthless garbage for every generation since its inception
>Gets a buff that allows it to become useful
>Is now cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:43:34 No.16550406 Report

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>>16550283
this if anything. and having a community dedicated to making sure people play the same thing too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:46:22 No.16550460 Report

Quoted By: >>16550553 >>16561527

>>16550283
I seriously don't get how people have fun just setting stats and watching the battle go by like some kind of pen and paper game, it's so much more fun training your own pokemon and battling people in the actual game. simulators are just for trying out strats, but then again you can just damage calculators to see how you would do

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:47:45 No.16550492 Report

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ITT: Things I don't like that beat me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:51:17 No.16550551 Report

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>>16550289
same thing happened to politoed, remember?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:51:21 No.16550553 Report

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>>16550460
Got sick of perfect IV mons fucking over hours of breeding and training no matter how many tears were shed and no matter the EV training.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 19:55:54 No.16550637 Report

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>>16550188
lmfao nice under 1000 rating

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 20:01:45 No.16550772 Report

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If they keep beating you, then git gud. If you're just tired of seeing the same old shit, then don't play on Showdown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 20:04:02 No.16550820 Report

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>>16549928
So any entry setter, and scarf user, anything that uses a recover move or item, and any mega. You realize this is like 100 different pokemon. git gud holy shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 20:15:54 No.16551030 Report

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>>16550341

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 20:30:13 No.16551281 Report

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>>16550553
git gud then, if you bred perfect Mons and are losing to other perfect Mons, then you suck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 20:31:58 No.16551324 Report

Quoted By: >>16551763 >>16555321

>using good Pokemon is cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 20:33:59 No.16551361 Report

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>>16551281
It's literally the exact same thing as using sims, just 900 times slower.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 20:38:20 No.16551437 Report

Quoted By: >>16551640 >>16551718

fuck smogon in general, the only thing i really don't mind as far as their clauses are their sleep and evasion clause, that's it, nothing else, fuck the rest of their dumb rules.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 20:45:45 No.16551585 Report

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>>16549928
>using any strategy that's vaguely common
jesus christ man, you just waved aside pretty much half the pokedex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 20:48:03 No.16551640 Report

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>>16551437
>2013
>Not running Insomniacs

Why can't you just git gud at dealing with sleep?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 20:51:42 No.16551718 Report

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>>16551437
>not running no guard mons specifically to take care of evasion modifiers

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Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 20:53:38 No.16551753 Report

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>>16550188
>that rating
git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 20:54:01 No.16551763 Report

Quoted By: >>16551830 >>16551846

>>16551324
>Rotom
>Gud
Rotom is fucking shit, any of it's forms, is just that water electric form, it has no weakness and is bulky as fuck

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 20:54:51 No.16551781 Report

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>>16549928

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 20:58:03 No.16551830 Report

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>>16551763
Why is Rotom so shit anon?

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Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 20:58:53 No.16551846 Report

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>>16551763

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:04:34 No.16551946 Report

Quoted By: >>16551962 >>16551983

>>16551830
>Rotom - ghost
No Def, SpD, SpA
>Rotom-oven
Crap, single use
>Rotom-Mow
Crap, single use
>Rotom-Frost
Crap
>Rotom-Fan
Levitate + Flying, kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:05:36 No.16551962 Report

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>>16551946
>Why is it shit?
>It's shit

Flawless logic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:06:33 No.16551983 Report

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>>16551946
wow you sure showed him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:06:53 No.16551997 Report

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>>16550188
>beating people ranked 1000
WOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:12:10 No.16552112 Report

Quoted By: >>16552218 >>16552230 >>16552547

I'll accept that I'm fucking stupid and haven't been a comp fag since gen 4, but I don't really see why any form of rotom is any good. 50/107 is hardly what id call "bulky", and pain split isn't enough to carry it. It has a breddy gud dual stab and shits on that fucking bird but that's it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:13:57 No.16552165 Report

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>>16550188
>beating people with ratings under 1200
>good

The fact you're bragging about this is just sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:15:38 No.16552218 Report

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>>16552112
It shits on the vast majority of OU offensive mons. 50 107 defenses are very good when you're will-o-wisping with max Spec Def investment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:16:13 No.16552230 Report

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>>16552112
Good typing and Levitate gives it lots of chance to switch in, WoW cripples physical attackers and it can build momentum with Volt Switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:23:25 No.16552454 Report

Quoted By: >>16552576

>>16550188
>that rating

If all your Pokemon are UU or below, why not just play UU or below? That's what tiers are for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:26:06 No.16552542 Report

Quoted By: >>16561583

>>16550289
kangaskhan is just good, people just don't play anything good and get #rekt and cry to high heaven because they suck. I just played a game vs one

> they start scolopede
> know it's a sub baton pass to setup kangaskhan
> allow it to setup up
> wittle scol to 8% hp
> BPs to kang
> hit is with thunder
> ohko my galvantula
> talon flam eot foce the sucker punch
> fist fails, second hit
> switch in trev
> third fails, I phantom force, fourth sp fails
> fifth hits, leaves me at 18 hp, rest + chesto
> they forfeit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:26:11 No.16552547 Report

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>>16552112

Only weak against Grass, and has Will-O-Wisp to cripple physical attackers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:27:14 No.16552576 Report

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>>16552454

UU doesn't exist for Gen 6 yet.

Ubers and OU are the only tiers that exist right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:27:30 No.16552583 Report

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>>16550289
That's because /vp/ is hipsters, and only wants you to use Pokemon you like if they aren't good competitively

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:32:12 No.16552711 Report

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>>16552576
Yeah, but it's not like he's using any gen 6 mons anyways, he could always hang out in Gen 5 UU. I wouldn't be surprised if he stays in Gen 6 OU because of his ridiculous crusade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:33:09 No.16552743 Report

Quoted By: >>16552818

>Things OP Can't Beat: The Theadr

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:35:47 No.16552818 Report

Quoted By: >>16553342

>>16552743
>Le ban blaziken

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 21:56:38 No.16553342 Report

Quoted By: >>16553861

>>16552818

>Let's allow something that has no counters to run free

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:14:06 No.16553794 Report

Quoted By: >>16553971

>>16549928
>waah. my hyper offense teams can't deal with rudimentary strategy. cancer cancer cancer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:16:58 No.16553861 Report

Quoted By: >>16554074 >>16554082 >>16554172 >>16554473 >>16563758

>>16553342
Slowbro
Slowking
Starmie
Azumarril
Dragonite
Salamence
Latias
Tentacruel
Gyarados
Donphan
Quagsire
Dusclops
Hippowdon
Victini
Chandelure
Cofagrigus
Landorus
Anything Ghost
Anything with protect

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:20:24 No.16553971 Report

Quoted By: >>16554414

>>16553794
Baww blaziken gets speedboosts while i use muh walls, let's ban him. Baww he uses double team while i set my dumb spikes, let's ban it, baww Bidoof gets boosted while i switch to muh walls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:23:36 No.16554066 Report

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>X pokemon is really good
>People start using X a lot because it's good
>Wow X is really cancer I hate it
>Too bad I used to like X but now that a lot of people are using it I hate it

/vp/ - hipsters

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:24:09 No.16554074 Report

Quoted By: >>16555434

>>16553861

Not a single one of those are counters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:24:39 No.16554082 Report

Quoted By: >>16554101

>>16553861
you forgot talonflame

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:25:16 No.16554101 Report

Quoted By: >>16554219

>>16554082

Talonflame is a check.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:27:44 No.16554172 Report

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>>16553861
The other thing is that since Blaziken can force so many things out, getting an SD is easy, and if you actually do manage to check it with something by then it's already faster than everything else and will just pass its boosts to something else.

Also, almost all of those aren't counters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:29:01 No.16554219 Report

Quoted By: >>16554257 >>16554333 >>16554335

>>16554101
you're right assuming stealth rocks are up and talonflame is switching in and blaziken is already at +2 attack and uses t-punch (with a crit) on the switch-in and a sandstorm is raging and that blaziken is sashed and has maximum defense ev's and that talonflame is modest nature and uses specs acrobatics i guess blaziken really beats talonflame 100% of the time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:30:30 No.16554257 Report

Quoted By: >>16554291

>>16554219
>i am retarded
no need to write an incredibly long sentence to tell us that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:31:54 No.16554291 Report

Quoted By: >>16554634

>>16554257
>i am autistic
no need to use flawless logic and reasoning to tell us that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:33:07 No.16554333 Report

Quoted By: >>16554430

>>16554219
>check suddenly means it beats everything 100% of the time
You are now aware that you are all the colours of the autist spectrum

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:33:11 No.16554335 Report

Quoted By: >>16554359 >>16554430

>>16554219
With stealth rock up Flare Blitz and High Jump Kick from unboosted M-Blaziken will actually do over 50% to Talonflame, so it's a check because it can't switch in to stop Mega Blaziken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:34:18 No.16554359 Report

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>>16554335
I meant that if stealth rock is up, blaziken's stabs will OHKO Talonflame.

I awkwardly worded that post, whoops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:36:51 No.16554413 Report

Quoted By: >>16562108

>>16550289
Kangaskhan was a pretty good NU Pokemon iirc, but still, it's NU.

I'm happy for Pinsir the most, this Mega made him very good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:36:56 No.16554414 Report

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>>16553971
blaziken gets speedboost when you use anything. unless you can 1 hit KO with extreme speed on a mon that is faster than blaziken, protect has higher priority than other priority moves and 100% lets him get off a speed boost unless he somehow switches in to a dig and dies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:37:56 No.16554430 Report

Quoted By: >>16554508 >>16554518 >>16554539 >>16554754

>>16554333
>he doesn't know how to read
you are now aware that you are all the colours of the edge spectrum.
>>16554335
252+ Atk Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 120 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 135-159 (41.2 - 48.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
inb4 complaints that talonflame should have 0 hp evs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:39:30 No.16554473 Report

Quoted By: >>16555167

>>16553861
>anything with protect
>counter to talonflame

you're a special kind of retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:40:47 No.16554508 Report

Quoted By: >>16554585

>>16554430
>doing calcs to test how good a pokemon is
>bend calcs to show the wrong things
you're actually autistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:41:06 No.16554518 Report

Quoted By: >>16554585

>>16554430
I was using Mega-Blaziken.

252+ Atk Mega Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 120 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 166-196 (50.7 - 59.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

252+ Atk Mega Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 120 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 180-213 (55 - 65.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

Regular Blaziken is more managable, but still pretty retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:41:07 No.16554519 Report

Quoted By: >>16554573 >>16554599 >>16555739

>Smogon wash machine

Mold Breaker, strong Grass-type attacks = gg washing machine

>Rocks, toxic spikes, sticky web, any sutrdy7sash entry setters.

What is "Defog", "Taunt", "Magic Coat" and "Rapid Spin".

>Mega-Khan, Mega anything else

I'll give you Mega-Khan, Mega-Gengar, and Mega-Blaziken, but the others aren't that hard to defeat.

>Scarf DracoLatios, scarf OutrageChomp, Scarf U-turnGenesect, Scarf CloseCombatTerrakion, Scarf-anything else.

What are "fairy-types"? Also, if you can't deal with those other scarfers then you need to take a good, hard look at your team and revise it if they're giving you such a hard time.

>Toxic - Protect- leftovers - Recover/Roost/hydration+rest

What is "Knock Off", "Trick", "Switcheroo", "Taunt", and "Heal Block"?

>Eviolite Chancey/Porygon2/Dusclops

What is "Knock Off" and "Trick".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:42:03 No.16554539 Report

Quoted By: >>16554585

>>16554430
yes I am sure everyone in existance is using a talonflame with 120 HP IVs and so they can prove that guy wrong like you just did

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:43:16 No.16554573 Report

Quoted By: >>16554949 >>16561807

>>16554519
spooky tree is ultimate washing machine check, especially if you have status restoring berry and harvest or natural cure

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:43:39 No.16554585 Report

Quoted By: >>16554652 >>16554754

>>16554508
>>16554539
+2 252+ Atk Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Talonflame: 299-352 (100.6 - 118.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
There, does that soothe you're autism?
>>16554518
fair enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:44:05 No.16554599 Report

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>>16554519
I agree, except with Genesect.

Lando-I needs to go as well, not sure about the others. I really hate all the Gen V legendaries shitting up everything.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:45:39 No.16554634 Report

Quoted By: >>16554670

>>16554291
>i am mad
well, you told us that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:46:26 No.16554652 Report

Quoted By: >>16554702

>>16554585
>bending the calcs the other way
It's 2HKO don't be so autistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:47:27 No.16554670 Report

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>>16554634
i love you reddit

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Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:48:28 No.16554692 Report

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>>16554670

>reddit

Dong is a /v/ meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:48:29 No.16554693 Report

Quoted By: >>16554737

>>16554670
Woah, you sure showed me there xD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:48:44 No.16554702 Report

Quoted By: >>16554808 >>16554816 >>16555491

>>16554652
>implying blaziken wouldn't already be at +2
>implying ANYONE gives talonflame even the slightest bit of bulk
nice try, autistic autist with autism what is autism?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:49:07 No.16554717 Report

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Play Battle Spot 3v3 or doubles.

Hardly ever any entry hazards, stall sucks, and Genesect can't be used even after PokeBank. Carry a grass type for Rotom.

Problem mostly solved

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:49:33 No.16554727 Report

Quoted By: >>16554792 >>16554880 >>16555391

So what's a good hard counter to Protean Greninja?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:49:47 No.16554737 Report

Quoted By: >>16554814

>>16554692
But I see it on reddit all the time!
>>16554693
You're not shitposting hard enough. I know you can do better than that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:50:29 No.16554754 Report

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>>16554430
>>16554585

Even still with Stealth Rock up Talonflame would kill itself with the recoil assuming the Blaziken user was stupid enough to leave it in.

I'm going to be interested to see how the VXG handles this as M-Blaziken, M-Gengar, and M-Kangaroo are all so dominant compared to the rest of what is out there.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:51:08 No.16554777 Report

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>>16549928
>mfw people still haven't realised OU is a mess
even ubers has better balance than that shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:51:36 No.16554792 Report

Quoted By: >>16554904

>>16554727
smogon washing machine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:52:12 No.16554808 Report

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>>16554702
Blaziken might not be at +2, depends if you know how to apply offensive pressure or not

Alex 5257 - 9710 - 7928 Psychic: Grumpig, Wobuffet, ???

Alex 5257 - 9710 - 7928 Psychic: Grumpig, Wobuffet, ??? Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:52:18 No.16554814 Report

Quoted By: >>16554982

>>16554737
>see it on reddit all the time
Get the flying fuck out of here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:52:20 No.16554816 Report

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>>16554702
Different guy but you are trying too hard, if you actually switch in Talonfalme as soon as Blaziken hits the field, then if it is at +2 Talonfalme came in on a swords' dance so it only took SR damage, and can ohko with Brave Bird.

Talonflame has decent speed, and relies on priority you should really EV it to outspeed Khangaskhan suker punch and put the rest into bulk, it's just common sense. You don't give Scizor tons of speed either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:54:55 No.16554880 Report

Quoted By: >>16555023

>>16554727
AV Tyranitar, best thing it can do is U-turn out which kinda stings.

Be aware of the type changes as well, for instance if it used Ice Beam last you can force it out with Scizor, and set up a mindgame there whether you think he will go for the HP Fire or switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:55:52 No.16554904 Report

Quoted By: >>16555067

>>16554792
until it HP Grasses your ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:57:31 No.16554949 Report

Quoted By: >>16555009

>>16554573
not at all... Rotom-W can learn shadow ball.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:57:54 No.16554959 Report

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>ITT: Cancer

The prophecy has been fulfilled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 22:58:57 No.16554982 Report

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>>16554814
He's saying it ironically dumbfuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 23:00:03 No.16555009 Report

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>>16554949
I kind of disagree, as it messes with the whole thing that Rotom-W has going, I think it would be better to just have something else on your team to deal with spoopy tree, but I may be wrong, I can't say for sure that people won't start running Shadow Ball to deal with him - ghosts are more prominent than they have been before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 23:00:29 No.16555023 Report

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>>16554880
Thank you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 23:02:24 No.16555067 Report

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>>16554904
Most greninjas I've seen don't run HP grass.
Rotom-W is usually special defensive OR could runs choice scarf to outspeed and ohko with volt switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 23:03:25 No.16555093 Report

Quoted By: >>16555323

all i can say is....

gg

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Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 23:04:41 No.16555128 Report

Quoted By: >>16555228

What I don't get is why everyone tries to make a science out of a game based almost solely on luck and prediction. Between "70%" accurate moves, critical hits, 30% chance to paralyze, that paralysis then proceeding to lock you down for turn after turn, enemies thawing instantly while you stay frozen until you have to fight a +6, and just retardedly risky plays paying off, there's no real reason for everyone to get so worked up over what should be just a fun thing friends do together. Certainly no place for an Elo rating scheme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 23:05:55 No.16555167 Report

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>>16554473
To Blaziken, learn to read brain dead abortion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 23:08:47 No.16555228 Report

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>>16555128
There's luck in everything, while this may mean that the skill index will have more variation than something like Chess, usually if you take two players a far enough margin apart the one with the higher ranking is usually better.

It's also just for fun, there are no prizes handed out on Smogon. So, what does it really matter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 23:11:16 No.16555294 Report

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>>16549928
who the fuck invents this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 23:12:26 No.16555321 Report

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>>16551324
>Using what pokemon smogon tells you to use
>Not making your own team with your own strategies

Yes this is cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 23:12:34 No.16555323 Report

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>>16555093
>Fighting the same 20 pokmans over and over
>gg lok so pro

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 23:15:02 No.16555391 Report

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>>16554727
Smogon wash machine
Smogon Red metallic bug
Smogon Steel ball plant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 23:16:50 No.16555434 Report

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>>16554074
>Lel no conters XD Blakizen OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 23:19:11 No.16555491 Report

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>>16554702
>Blaziken surviving a Brave bird

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 23:21:59 No.16555554 Report

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>>16555321

Smogon doesn't tell people what to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 23:29:55 No.16555739 Report

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>>16554519
>>Smogon wash machine
>Mold Breaker, strong Grass-type attacks = gg washing machine
Mold Breaker? kek, Excadrill = Will o smith or hydropump, Hax = will o smith, rampardos = weak to water, basculin = weak to electric.

>>Rocks, toxic spikes, sticky web, any sutrdy/sash entry setters.
>What is "Defog", "Taunt", "Magic Coat" and "Rapid Spin".
turn 1 switch, turn 2 spin/defog, by that time your Mon will be dead, for Taunt and Coat you need specific situations.

>>Mega-Khan, Mega anything else
>I'll give you Mega-Khan, Mega-Gengar, and Mega-Blaziken, but the others aren't that hard to defeat.
Mega Pinsir, Mega Close Combat, Mega Gyara, Mega Mawile.

>>Scarf DracoLatios, scarf OutrageChomp, Scarf U-turnGenesect, Scarf CloseCombatTerrakion, Scarf-anything else.
>What are "fairy-types"? Also, if you can't deal with those other scarfers then you need to take a good, hard look at your team and revise it if they're giving you such a hard time.

>Fairy
>Physically defensive

>>Toxic - Protect- leftovers - Recover/Roost/hydration+rest
>What is "Knock Off", "Trick", "Switcheroo", "Taunt", and "Heal Block"?
>>Eviolite Chancey/Porygon2/Dusclops
>What is "Knock Off" and "Trick".
Not like every Mon get those moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Dec 2013 23:47:05 No.16556205 Report

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Some of you are so fucking retarded that you must be anarchists to even justify the stupidity of your mindsets that purport to be anti-authoritarian in regards to Smogon. You have convinced yourselves that Smogon actively dictates usage, when it simply provides insightful information as to how to play well (which inherently relies on team-building and thus sets of the Pokemon) and a free excellent battle simulator.

You are fucking numbskulls. I wonder if there is enough cognitive reasoning capacity within your mind to fully comprehend the explanation I am about to offer, but nevertheless I will progress in the hope that a few of you may perceive my point. As with any strategic games, certain strategies (in this case Pokemon) will be more effective than others in general, and this is the case at the beginning of a generation. A metagame has not yet formed, but certain pokemon will inevitably see more usage due to their objectively better typing, not in the midst of an established metagame but amongst most Pokemon in general.

It is through the use of these Pokemon or strategies that counters begin to be more commonplace, and through the prevalence of these certain powerful Pokemon and the play focused around them, a metagame begins to form. Thus the most used Pokemon are necessary, otherwise you are allowing the objective powerful strategies (ie a high base Atk Pokemon with SD) to run rampant. Blissey is not used because it can sweep, but because it can cripple special attackers with status and heal status.

By providing players with information with how to do well within the metagame, which is originally the product of strong strategy and play regardless of what Smogon dictates, players can get to grips with how to play.

Providing people with information about how to play competently before they have the knowledge to win creatively is not dictating how people fucking play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2013 00:42:46 No.16557466 Report

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>Eviolite Chansey/Porygon2/Dusclops
>Porygon2 and Dusclops
i'll give you chansey but P2 and Dusclops are the shit and have their own utilities.

by the way, git gud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2013 03:42:54 No.16561527 Report

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>>16550460
Training is overrated. It's repetitive and bland.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2013 03:44:47 No.16561583 Report

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>>16552542
>Sucker punch
>With Scolipede

Glad to know you're playing shit players.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2013 03:53:01 No.16561807 Report

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>>16554573
Rotom will-o-wisps on the switch in, volt switches out.

Rotom calls the predicted switch, and uses volt switch to no risk switch.

Wisp+Switch and amazing bulk/typing is what makes rotom so good.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2013 04:05:16 No.16562108 Report

Quoted By: >>16562189

>>16554413
>used Mega-Kangaskhan when thegame first came out
>realize it's kind of gimmicky, like aegislash
>still want to use a mega
>look at Pinsir
>used to like him as a kid, but never really used him
>Swords Dance then sweep several people in a row with quick attack + thrash
>mfw every time

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2013 04:08:36 No.16562189 Report

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>>16562108
>Player uses gimmicky mega
>Send in rotom-w, it resists his shit all day
>Volt into slash
>Slash punches it in the dick with a shadow ball
>Laugh as my mega then gets to set up it's +2 move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2013 05:21:44 No.16563665 Report

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>>16549928
>waaah you're supposed to only use earthquake and outrage!Strategy is gayyyyyy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2013 05:27:13 No.16563758 Report

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>>16553861
I'm struggling to find a single thing in that list that actually counters Blaziken. I think none of them do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2013 05:59:07 No.16564355 Report

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This thread is cancer.

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