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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:02:33 No.16578397 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16578502 >>16578570 >>16580242

Alright, /vp/,
What four types provide the best coverage overall?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:04:11 No.16578424 Report

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>you go gurl.jpg

Lightning Flash

Lightning Flash Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:06:49 No.16578478 Report

Quoted By: >>16578489 >>16578506 >>16578508 >>16578520 >>16578543 >>16579158

Four?

all you need are two.

Dragon/Fire or Ghost/Fighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:07:37 No.16578489 Report

Quoted By: >>16578512

>>16578478
Why not all four?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:08:15 No.16578502 Report

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>>16578397
Electivire.

Just..

ELECTIVIRE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:08:28 No.16578506 Report

Quoted By: >>16579694

>>16578478
>Ghost/Fighting
ya know, it should probably exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:08:30 No.16578507 Report

Quoted By: >>16578561

Electric
Fighting
Ice
Ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:08:30 No.16578508 Report

Quoted By: >>16578615

>>16578478
You mean Ghost/Fairy.

Shadow Ball + Dazzling Gleam hits all types neutral or better. Or Shadow Claw + Play Rough.

Combine with an Ice move and Earthquake and its literally the best possible moveset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:08:47 No.16578512 Report

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>>16578489
Redundant, your moveslot is usually better used for some sort of support move or STAB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:09:15 No.16578520 Report

Quoted By: >>16578558 >>16578566

>>16578478
>Dragon/Fire
M-muh Heatran.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:09:23 No.16578526 Report

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defensively, always have a steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:10:14 No.16578543 Report

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>>16578478
Carbink resists Dragon/Fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:11:22 No.16578558 Report

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>>16578520
Muh Carbink
Muh Azumarill

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:11:25 No.16578561 Report

Quoted By: >>16578579 >>16578639 >>16578836 >>16578918 >>16579053 >>16579132 >>16579217 >>16580510

>>16578507
Holy crap dude, what pokemon can learn all these types of moves?

Lightning Flash

Lightning Flash Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:11:59 No.16578566 Report

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>>16578520

I guess I was thinking of Reshiram's STAB coverage, which is completely unresisted.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:12:12 No.16578570 Report

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>>16578397

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:12:22 No.16578579 Report

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>>16578561
electivire

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:13:52 No.16578615 Report

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>>16578508
>Shadow Ball + Dazzling Gleam hits all types neutral or better. Or Shadow Claw + Play Rough.
Pyroar

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:15:05 No.16578639 Report

Quoted By: >>16578765

>>16578561
How'd you do dat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:15:23 No.16578648 Report

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Dark should definitely be there in this current meta, Fighting types are at an all time low and Fairy is relatively rare.
In fact I think Dark/Fairy has one of the best neutral effectiveness in the game, only being resisted by Klefki and Mawile.

Lightning Flash

Lightning Flash Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:16:21 No.16578657 Report

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>>16578558

Carbrink is shit, and I'm almost certain Azumarill still eats Blue Flare like a bitch. Also, a burned Azumarill can't do crap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:17:19 No.16578676 Report

Quoted By: >>16578696

How about BoltBeam+EdgeQuake?

Lightning Flash

Lightning Flash Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:18:51 No.16578696 Report

Quoted By: >>16578729 >>16578750 >>16578753 >>16578814

>>16578676

Uh... For the former... Lanturn and Magnezone.

The latter, not counting abilities, Claydol is it.

Lizerd 3DS: Dallan 5343-8030-3718

Lizerd 3DS: Dallan 5343-8030-3718 Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:20:28 No.16578722 Report

Quoted By: >>16579930

Flying/Fighting/Electric/Ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:20:50 No.16578729 Report

Quoted By: >>16578753 >>16578768 >>16579836

>>16578696
Can anything learn all four, or at least moves of those types?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:21:51 No.16578750 Report

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>>16578696
>GF will never give Claydol recover

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:21:58 No.16578753 Report

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>>16578696
The latter also has Chesnaught and Breloom

>>16578729
Yeah, but EdgeQuake+BoltBeam is kind of redundant coverage. You only really need one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:22:28 No.16578765 Report

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>>16578639
http://pokemondb.net/tools/type-coverage

Lightning Flash

Lightning Flash Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:22:35 No.16578768 Report

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>>16578729

Other than Mew and Arceus? nope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:23:41 No.16578781 Report

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>>16578753
What if you want to go beyond just "unresisted" and want to go for "most super effective".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:25:28 No.16578810 Report

Quoted By: >>16578982

Beartic gets
>Play Rough through Breeding
>Bulldoze/Dig
>Ice Punch
>Shadow Claw

Which hits everything neutral or better, and 531 super-effective.

Lightning Flash

Lightning Flash Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:25:47 No.16578814 Report

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>>16578696

DERP, I mean Levitate Bronzong. Though Claydol is the only thing that resists both of Terrakion's STABs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:27:22 No.16578836 Report

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>>16578561
Electivire.

Doesn't save it from being shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:28:37 No.16578857 Report

Quoted By: >>16578898

Alright, so does anyone know what the worst coverage by four types is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:28:50 No.16578860 Report

Quoted By: >>16578905

>>16578781
Ground and Ice are by far the best two attacking types together.

Fairy and Ghost hit everything but two Pokemon neutral or better.

Combine those two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:29:23 No.16578864 Report

Quoted By: >>16578946 >>16579000 >>16579055 >>16579061

Bug
Rock
Ground
Grass

No Effect - 0
Not Very Effective - 0
Normal Effectiveness - 198
Super Effective - 576

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:29:48 No.16578869 Report

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flying is only resisted by 3 types, is SE to grass, bug, and fighting, only has 3 weaknesses and generally physical sweepers.

ghosts are immune to fighting and normal, often have levitate so ground is gone, are SE to ghost, psychic, and resisted by dark and fairy.

fairy is immune to dragon, SE to dragon, fighting, and dark, are only resisted by steel, poison, fire and ghost

Dragon is only resisted by steel, only SE to dragon and weak to fairy ice and dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:31:45 No.16578898 Report

Quoted By: >>16579079

>>16578857
>Poison
>Grass
>Normal
>Steel

I think. Still hits 246 Super-Effective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:32:16 No.16578905 Report

Quoted By: >>16578982

>>16578860
I actually figured that out a few days ago, I got Moonblast and Shadow Ball on my Clefable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:32:59 No.16578918 Report

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>>16578561

Tyrantrum can, i think?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:34:40 No.16578946 Report

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>>16578864
Wow, who knew Grass and Bug were so good together when paired with Rock and Ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:36:52 No.16578982 Report

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>>16578905
As stated in the thread
>>16578810

Beartic takes most advantage. Doesn't save it from sucking.

If you give Clefable Thunderbolt and Flamethrower, it hits everything neutral or better and 516 super-effective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:37:43 No.16579000 Report

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>>16578864
All natural. Bugs, rocks, soil, and plants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:41:33 No.16579053 Report

Quoted By: >>16579106 >>16579164 >>16579165 >>16579197 >>16579212

>>16578561
easy, Nidoking
Thunder/Thunderbolt
Focus blast
Ice Beam
Earth power

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:41:40 No.16579055 Report

Quoted By: >>16579145 >>16579583 >>16579836

>>16578864
Barbacle can get
>X-Scissor
>Stone Edge
>Earthquake

And
>Grass Knot

It can't effectively USE Grass Knot, but it still has that ridiculous coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:42:02 No.16579061 Report

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>>16578864
Landorus can run this, Earthquake, Stone Edge, U Turn and Grass Knot, not saying it can run it well but it's something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:42:51 No.16579079 Report

Quoted By: >>16579301

>>16578898
Swap that grass w/ dragon - hits only 196 supereffective.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:44:24 No.16579106 Report

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>>16579053

Exactly this, my bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:45:45 No.16579132 Report

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>>16578561
Nidoking (Earth Power, Focus Blast, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:46:15 No.16579145 Report

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>>16579055
You could drop grass knot and give it shell smash.

It won't get some of the coverage from grass, but
Bug, Rock, Ground get

Normal Effectiveness -292
Super Effective - 482

Which is still pretty good coverage.
It's how I run muh nigga Crustle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:46:40 No.16579158 Report

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>>16578478
A hypothetical Normal/Ghost type would be immune to both Ghost and Fighting, have only one weakness, and would be a pretty decent offensive type, but not against itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:46:59 No.16579164 Report

Quoted By: >>16579239

>>16579053
>Sheer force
Damn, I want to try this set now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:47:01 No.16579165 Report

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>>16579053
All get boosted by Sheer Force too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:48:30 No.16579197 Report

Quoted By: >>16579230 >>16579238 >>16579276

>>16579053
>Focus Miss
>Not taking advantage of STAB with Sludge Wave

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:49:27 No.16579212 Report

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>>16579053
With sheer force and LO I can see this being pretty strong

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:49:34 No.16579217 Report

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>>16578561
Golurk: Ice Punch, Thunder Punch, Earthquake, Drain/Dynamic Punch

Christian 4210-4058-0397 (Snover, Beartic, Dewgong)

Christian 4210-4058-0397 (Snover, Beartic, Dewgong) Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:50:04 No.16579230 Report

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>>16579197
>Implying Poison STAB isn't absolute and utter shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:50:29 No.16579238 Report

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>>16579197
>Implying Earth Power isn't enough STAB abuse

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:50:29 No.16579239 Report

Quoted By: >>16579261 >>16579266

>>16579164

>Sheer force
>Life orb

If only it had a better speed... ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:51:33 No.16579261 Report

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>>16579239
Run Silly String support, or Baton Pass a Quiver Dance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:51:56 No.16579266 Report

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>>16579239
>GF boost Att by 10
>Not SpA or Speed
Dammit GF
At least you got Stoutland right

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:52:27 No.16579276 Report

Quoted By: >>16579292 >>16579333

>>16579197
>Missing the fucking point

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:53:29 No.16579292 Report

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>>16579276
>implying fairies don't exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:54:00 No.16579301 Report

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>>16579079
Better yet, give it Dragon Rage.

It hits only 158 Pokemon super-effective.

Druddigon
>Metal Claw
>Dragon Rage
>Poison Tail
>Scratch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:55:53 No.16579333 Report

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>>16579276
I guess he focus missed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:56:59 No.16579356 Report

Quoted By: >>16579401 >>16579433 >>16579465

>>16578566
in gen 5, aka before fairy type.
dragon/fire don't do shit now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 00:59:15 No.16579401 Report

Quoted By: >>16579437 >>16579439

>>16579356
>azumarill resists it
Wow, so many pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:00:50 No.16579433 Report

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>>16579356
>only 2 pokemon resist it this combo
>doesn't do shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:01:02 No.16579437 Report

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>>16579401
DON'T YOU FUCKING FORGET CARBINK.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:01:10 No.16579439 Report

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>>16579401
and carbink.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:02:07 No.16579465 Report

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>>16579356

>2 whole pokemon resist resh
>it must be shit

Flying/fighting is only resisted by the honedge line

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:04:11 No.16579501 Report

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Fairy and Ghost is nearly flawless coverage. Only Pyroar and Litleo resist it. Fighting and Ghost is flawless coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:05:30 No.16579516 Report

Quoted By: >>16579546 >>16579565 >>16579836 >>16579939

flying/fighting/ice/ghost is great, does anything have that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:05:31 No.16579517 Report

Quoted By: >>16579533 >>16579535

>>16578566
>what is heatran

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:06:48 No.16579533 Report

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>>16579517
>what is does not resist fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:06:52 No.16579535 Report

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>>16579517
hit neutrally by turboblaze fire attacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:07:31 No.16579546 Report

Quoted By: >>16579582

>>16579516
No. Togekiss almost does, if only it learned Ice Beam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:08:33 No.16579565 Report

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>>16579516

Smeargle and mew

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:08:44 No.16579568 Report

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>>16578570
What is this, a picture for Durant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:09:48 No.16579582 Report

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>>16579546
>togekiss doesn't learn ice beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:09:57 No.16579583 Report

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>>16579055
I know it doesn't make much difference, but Grass Knot is a contact move, being boosted by Tough Claws.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:15:50 No.16579694 Report

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>>16578506
Aegislash learns sacrad sword and multiple ghost type moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:24:19 No.16579836 Report

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>>16578729
Look for things in the "Monster" egg group. Aggron, Nidoking, Tyranitar...

Also, Dragon-types.

But Fighting/Ghost is 100% perfect coverage. Add something to hit Water- and Flying-types, like the celebrated BoltBeam combo, and you'll do rather well.
>>16579055
Grass Knot gets boosts by Tough Claws, since it makes contact. If Barbaracle is having trouble with bulky Water-types, it's actually not quite as shitty a choice as you'd think.
>>16579516
Doesn't Togekiss get Ice Punch? Also, Giratina has Ghost moves, Aura Sphere, Aerial Ace, and Icy Wind.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:28:19 No.16579930 Report

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>>16578722
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:28:58 No.16579939 Report

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>>16579516
Tyranitar has Ice Punch, Focus Punch, Shadow Claw, and Aerial Ace.

This is not a spectacularly rare combination.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:44:25 No.16580242 Report

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>>16578397
Seems she pretended to be offended.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:55:23 No.16580510 Report

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>>16578561
Nobody mentioned Conkeldurr learns them all too.
Iron Fist boosted Drain/Ice/Thunder Punches+Earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 02:02:01 No.16580686 Report

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Fairy/Ghost/Fighting gives perfect neutral coverage on every Pokemon.

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