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Final batch of cross gen evolutions.

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:09:10 No.16579573 View View Reply Original Report

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It is this time again!

How much of a mistake they were?

How much of a good work they were?

Loved ones? Hated ones? Disappointing ones?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:10:39 No.16579595 Report

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>>16579573
Love Yanmega and Gliscor

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:11:49 No.16579617 Report

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Love Roserade, Porygon-Z, Weavile, and Ambipom.

The rest don't bother me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:12:11 No.16579625 Report

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I loved nearly everyone, I'd be happy if they announced more

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:13:17 No.16579647 Report

Quoted By: >>16579998 >>16580239 >>16580370

They're all complete shit except for Togekiss and Porygon-Z. Any other opinion is invalid. If you dont agree with me you have actual shit taste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:13:53 No.16579654 Report

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I like them all except gallade.

I love a few of them, too.

And lickilicky is my favourite pokemon, which used to be lickitung.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:14:15 No.16579660 Report

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>>16579573
Love everything but Rhyperior, Lickilicky, and Magmortar. Disappointed in the effectiveness of most of the others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:18:05 No.16579729 Report

Quoted By: >>16581242

>>16579573
They were all good.

Worst: Rhyperior, Probopass, Magmortar
Middle: Magnezone, Honchkrow, Ambipom, Yanmega, Lickilikcy
Awesome: The rest

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:18:48 No.16579738 Report

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While I dislike Ambipom, Probopass, and Lickilicky, I love the rest. Especially Roserade, Weavile, Gallade, Gliscor, Froslass, and Mamoswine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:19:39 No.16579752 Report

Quoted By: >>16579863 >>16579972 >>16580301

Why this batch? What about the other gens?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:19:57 No.16579759 Report

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Mamoswine is a total bro, and I like Electivire's design (haven't used him yet though). The rest I don't really care about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:20:31 No.16579766 Report

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espeon umbreon leafeon glaceon sylveon
you forgot some...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:21:40 No.16579789 Report

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I think all of them are pretty well designed and gave some Pokemon a much needed power boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:22:31 No.16579802 Report

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Steelix and Scizor?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:23:08 No.16579817 Report

Quoted By: >>16580301

You forgot the eevee evolutions and gen 2 evolutions.
Anyways the really good imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:24:49 No.16579845 Report

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>>16579573
Gliscor, Yanmega, and Weavile are cool, Magnezone and Electivire are okay, the rest are complete and utter shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:24:51 No.16579846 Report

Quoted By: >>16579912 >>16579955 >>16579988

>>16579573
I really do not care for magnezone, magneton looks way better

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:25:53 No.16579863 Report

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>>16579752
Because it's the last one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:26:56 No.16579894 Report

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>>16579863
>sylveon
wot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:27:08 No.16579900 Report

Quoted By: >>16579923 >>16579926 >>16579950 >>16579955 >>16588300 >>16589025

>God Tier
Gallade
Porygon Z

>Cool Tier
Misdreavus
Yanmega
Gliscor
Froslass
Weavile
Dusknoir

>Jew Tier
Probopass

>Okay Tier
Electivire
Magmortar
Mamoswine

>Shut the Fuck Up About the Fedora It's a Mob Boss Tier
Honchkrow

>Thanks For Eviolite Tier
Dusknoir

>Old Lady Tier
Roserade

>Whatever Tier
Lickilicky

>Why Tier
Rhyperior
Tangrowth
Magnezone

>Just Ugly Tier
Ambipom

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:27:33 No.16579912 Report

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>>16579846
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:28:04 No.16579923 Report

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>>16579900
>misdreavus

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:28:08 No.16579926 Report

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>>16579900
Sorry, Honchkrow's Tier should have been right above Probopass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:28:56 No.16579937 Report

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>>16579894
>reading comprehension

Didn't realize sylveon counted as a "batch"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:29:28 No.16579950 Report

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>>16579900
Oh shit, are you me?

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:29:38 No.16579955 Report

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>>16579846
>I really do not care for magnezone, magneton looks way better
>>16579900
>Old Lady Tier: Roserade

Oh you guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:29:54 No.16579958 Report

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>>16579937
Why not just count all cross gen evolutions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:30:47 No.16579972 Report

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>>16579752
>Why this batch?

Because this is the one that ended up being most massive and, relatively speaking, most hated.

I mean, people had no problems with accepting cross gen evolutions from gen2 and gen3, yet with Sinnoh introducing an avalanche of them it is still commonplace to see people arguing how:

-Dusknoir is a disappointment;

-Gallade is a mistake of a Pokemon;

-Rhyperior is a waste of fine design

-Froslass overshadowed the family it was introduced to

etc.

You don't see people bitch about Steelix and Magcargo, do you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:30:49 No.16579973 Report

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>>16579958
Im not OP, but how about you read the title of the thread before you post.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:31:27 No.16579988 Report

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>>16579846
You're right, we should totally go back to the Gen 1 design philosophy and embrace it like the marvelous spark of creativity it represented.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:31:41 No.16579991 Report

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Love Roserade, Weavile, Yanmega, Togekiss, and Magnezone
Probopass doesn't really have anything going for it that other things don't do better
Rhyperior was unnecessary although I'll gladly accept eviolite Rhydon
Rest are pretty cool

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:32:13 No.16579998 Report

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>>16579647

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:32:16 No.16579999 Report

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>>16579973
Doesn't even include the Glaceon and Leafeon though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:32:32 No.16580007 Report

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>Awesome Tier
Roserade, Yanmega, Electivire, Mamoswine, Weavile

>Good Tier
Rhyperior, Magmortar, Gliscor, Porygon-Z, Gallade

>I'll accept it's a pokemon tier
Duskinoir, Frosslass, Ambipom, Togepiss, Mismagius

>Just retcon me out
Honchcrow, Magnezone, Tangrowth, Lickilicky, Weavile

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:32:37 No.16580009 Report

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>>16579972
>guaranteed_replies.png

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:32:45 No.16580012 Report

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>Gold star
Great/Improvement
>Blue star
Minor improvement/about the same
>Black star
Worse than original, or just as dumb as previous form

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:33:07 No.16580020 Report

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Hated them before but most have grown on me. Love Ambipom, Rhyperior, Lickilicky and Porygon-Z (favourite pokemon), Mamoswine, Honchkrow. magmortar and tangrowth are my least favourites and even then i don't mind them.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:33:26 No.16580025 Report

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>>16579972
>magcargo

uhh...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:33:30 No.16580027 Report

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>>16579972
you sayin shit 'bout my fav cross-gen evo Magcargo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:33:36 No.16580028 Report

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>>16579972
What are you talking about Magcargo is not a cross gen evo

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:33:53 No.16580032 Report

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>>16579972
>magcargo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:33:54 No.16580033 Report

Quoted By: >>16589706 >>16589718

I like them all except for magmortar. They ruined my bro magmar by turning him from a badass fire duck salamander with a butthead into a fat black face on fire with cannon arms. Atleast yanmega and mamoswine make up for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:36:15 No.16580070 Report

Quoted By: >>16580082 >>16580196 >>16580301

>what is steelix, scizor, kingdra, porygon 2
>what is eevelution

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:36:57 No.16580081 Report

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>>16580007
turn that 2nd weavile into probopass

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:37:03 No.16580082 Report

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>>16580070
I didnt realize those were gen 4 pokemon

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:37:11 No.16580083 Report

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>God Tier
Yanmega, Gliscor, Mamoswine, Porygon-Z, Weavile

>Good tier
Dusknoir, Magmortar, Roserade, Gallade, Leafeon, Glaceon

>Meh tier
Tangrowth, Rhyperior, Froslass, Togekiss, Honchkrow, Mismagius

>Shit Tier
Ambipom, Magnezone, Electivire, Lickilicky

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:37:36 No.16580094 Report

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>>16580082
>glaceon and leafeon

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:38:54 No.16580119 Report

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>>16580082
>what are Glaceon and Leafeon

Now you look like an ass and an idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:39:47 No.16580140 Report

Quoted By: >>16580170 >>16580175 >>16580245

Can anyone remind me why /vp/ hate Magnezone and suddenly love Magneton?
The latter was uninspired and boring, while the latter is a badass UFO.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:41:11 No.16580166 Report

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>>16579972
>magcargo
uhh

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:41:18 No.16580170 Report

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>>16580140
I love Magnezone. Magneton is just three magnemite glued together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:41:38 No.16580175 Report

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>>16580140
Magnezone just looks awful to me, Magneton wasn't anything great but it looks more able to do stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:41:54 No.16580183 Report

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>>16580119
>>16580094
>implying I even read his second point

Guess we're both idiots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:42:26 No.16580196 Report

Quoted By: >>16580271

>>16580070

Eeveelutions are a category unto itself, like a signature practice of the franchise. We will be having new Eeveelutions for as long as there are any types left to receive their trademark Eevee.

While any other cross gens just stopped coming, with only Megas left now to 'replace' their gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:43:40 No.16580223 Report

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Roserade, Porygon-Z, and Froslass are the shit. Mismagius, Magnezone, Electivire, Togekiss, Gliscor, Mamoswine, Gallade, Probopass, and Weavile are cool, too. Dusknoir grew on me after Mystery Dungeon. The others I have no strong feelings about except for Rhyperior and Magmortar, who are some of the few Pokemon I would say I actually dislike.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:44:22 No.16580239 Report

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>>16579647
Why are you so upset?
>pic related

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:44:30 No.16580245 Report

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>>16580140
I just don't like that stupid, goofy yellow antennae on its head.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:45:04 No.16580257 Report

Quoted By: >>16580301

>blissey
>bellossom
>crobat
>kingdra
>politoed
>scizor
>steelix
>porygon 2
>slowking
You missed a few.
I don't mind more evolutions, but a lot of the prevolutions are questionable in my opinion

Penga !XIxc6BpKnU

Penga !XIxc6BpKnU Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:45:37 No.16580268 Report

Quoted By: >>16580326 >>16580364

I really like Duskinoir, but I've always heard that Dusclops @ Eviolite is noticeably better.

Does anyone use Duskinoir? How can I makr him suck less?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:45:43 No.16580271 Report

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>>16580196
>Not believing the porygon x and y rumors
stay pleb

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:46:57 No.16580301 Report

Quoted By: >>16580364 >>16589276

>>16579752
>>16579817
>>16580070
>>16580257
Does nobody even read anymore

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:47:54 No.16580326 Report

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>>16580268
Best way I could think to use him is a Trick Room attacker with a Brave nature, give him Shadow Punch, Earthquake and Ice Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:49:02 No.16580358 Report

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Love almost all of them

Don't care for Lickilicky, Magmortar, Ambipom or Rhyperior

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:49:20 No.16580364 Report

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>>16580268
Its better defensively while dusknoir is a great trick room sweeper.

>>16580301
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:49:32 No.16580370 Report

Quoted By: >>16580409

>>16579647

False flag? Or just wanting to be evaluated so badly?

I love Togekiss and Porygon-Z. These also gave me my favourite pokemon, Gallade.

Shame about how Froslass fucked over her newfound family, though. Glalie is just too awesome of a concept to be overshadowed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:51:08 No.16580409 Report

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>>16580370
>glalie with moody+protect
naw son

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:53:02 No.16580452 Report

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Assault Vest Tangrowth has been my bro this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:54:16 No.16580487 Report

Quoted By: >>16580533 >>16580582

I hate Porygon-Z just because his prevo with eviolite is retardedly powerful

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:56:14 No.16580533 Report

Quoted By: >>16580587

>>16580487
>because his prevo with eviolite

Was it always hate?

Or was it preceded by sympathy and hope that this one can be a decent Pokemon to have?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:56:37 No.16580547 Report

Quoted By: >>16589175

>Ambipom
The phallic-looking fingers ruin it, as does the giant :^) face
>Magnezone
It's ok
>Rhyperior
Would be great if it didn't have the ugly orange plates
>Magmortar
Looks like an old lady in an orange one-piece
>Lickilicky
Changed it from a lizard to an obese toddler.

The rest are ok

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:57:52 No.16580582 Report

Quoted By: >>16580624

>>16580487
>Hating any Porygon for any reason
your a piece of shit you know that right

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:58:02 No.16580587 Report

Quoted By: >>16580782

>>16580533
I was pretty neutral to it before eviolite came around

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 01:59:43 No.16580624 Report

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>>16580582
At least I know the difference between your and you're.
>Your favorite pokemon is shit and you're a faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 02:05:07 No.16580782 Report

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>>16580587

Sometimes I ask myself whether there was any good point for this item to be released at all. The most visible effect of it is fucking over a good bunch of final products.

That is, unless eviolite doesn't give such an advantage in doubles/triples.

Come to think of it, how these cross gen evos fare in double battles mode? I keep hearing how those that people commonly assume to be now worthless are still doing pretty well there.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 02:10:22 No.16580933 Report

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Like blue.
Don't mind yellow.
Dislike red.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 02:22:49 No.16581219 Report

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>>16579950 (You)
Sure am.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 02:23:39 No.16581242 Report

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>>16579729
>Magnezone
>Not awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 04:13:48 No.16583913 Report

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Some of them like Weavile and Gallade feel like they've always been there, while others such as Magmortar and Mismagius still feel out of place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:38:57 No.16587352 Report

Quoted By: >>16588254

>>16579573
I honestly like most Pokemon and think that someone that actually hates an animal/rock/ice cream with super powers is an asshole and not someone I would like to befriend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 09:20:55 No.16588254 Report

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>>16587352
>someone that actually hates an animal/rock/ice cream with super powers is an asshole

This is an attitude that I'd love to see more often. Too many people set their minds on hating a character so much that this hate is being spread like a pleasant personal secret to whisper into eager ears.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 09:30:58 No.16588300 Report

Quoted By: >>16588343

>>16579900
>Thanks For Eviolite Tier
>No Porygon Z

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 09:38:50 No.16588343 Report

Quoted By: >>16588519

>>16588300

I guess this is mostly due to the fact that Dusknoir became the poster child for a "Pokemon that the eviolite destroyed". I remember quite a lot of people claim how Dusclops is their favourite because it is viable - more viable than its final evo. At the same time Porygon-Z doesn't get this kind of treatment among the fandom. Well, at least not as frequently as Dusknoir and Honchkrow.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 09:39:18 No.16588345 Report

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7 - 4 - 9
If I had to pick any one that was the best, it'd be Froslass.

But yeah... it's a pretty mixed bag. Lots of nice evos, but also a shit ton of... well, shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 09:42:09 No.16588356 Report

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>>16579573
I adore both Weavile and Gallade, I like Honchkrow and Roserade, everything else I have no opinion on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 09:58:40 No.16588434 Report

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>>16579573

Let's see...

>Massively biased towards tier:
Gallade

>Top favourite tier:
Porygon-Z
Togekiss
Magnezone
Dusknoir
Electivire

>Decent additions tier:

Everything else, except:

>not too bothersome, yet not too special either - tier:

Honchkrow
Mismagius
Ambipom

There simply is none that I'd flat-out hate. Overally, I think this was a solid wave of designs. At least more solid than the first Mega wave that we got so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:09:12 No.16588519 Report

Quoted By: >>16588576

>>16588343
Because Porygon2 and Porygon-Z are both viable pokemon that fill different positions. Sure, Porygon2's more unique among tanks than Porygon-Z is among special sweepers, but the two pokemon aren't competing for the same role the way Dusclops and Dusknoir are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:17:44 No.16588576 Report

Quoted By: >>16588601

>>16588519

Ah. Thanks for clarifying that. I have seen too many people outside of /vp/ spin it simply like: "it is shit. Period. You don't want to breed for it or evolve it."

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:20:17 No.16588601 Report

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>>16588576
Note that if Porygon-Z was just "lol its Porygon2 with 20 more HP and defenses" it WOULD be entirely outclassed by 2. I can't wait for Bank so my Porygon2 can kill Talonflames with just Recover.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:22:22 No.16588608 Report

Quoted By: >>16588651 >>16588688

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:25:45 No.16588624 Report

Quoted By: >>16588655

Why all the weavile,ambipom, and magnezone hate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:30:35 No.16588651 Report

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>>16588608
>2 for weavile and frosslass
>5 for magnezone and whypererior
all that shit taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:31:35 No.16588655 Report

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>>16588624
>Why all the weavile,ambipom, and magnezone hate?

While I like - to a varying extent - all three,

>Ambipom
People claim how goofy its design has become, with its hair, unsettling nose and udder-like tail-hands.

>Magnezone
No idea here, though my brother thinks it looks silly because 'lol, let's make a cluster of magnets into a UFO for no reason!'

>Weavile
I blame Teckworks.

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Adelle 2062 9844 8374 SV: {2666} Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:33:14 No.16588662 Report

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Love: Glaceon, Leafeon, Togekiss, Froslass, Mismagius
Really Like: Tangrowth, Probopass, Gallade, Gliscor
Like: Honchkrow, Roserade, Yanmega, Weavile
Neutral: Electivire, Lickilicky, Porygon-Z, Magnezone
Dislike: Dusknoir, Mamoswine, Magmortar
Greatly Dislike: Rhyperior, Ambipom

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:40:06 No.16588688 Report

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>>16588608

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:13:31 No.16588892 Report

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>O
Done rite.

Yellow O- cool concept, probably better off as it's own Pokemon

Yellow /- Shit design for what could have been cool

Red X- Shit design for an unnecessary Pokemon. Fucking garbage.

Anything else is meh. I liked Porygon-Z at first, but he's really not so great. Same with Tangrowth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:17:15 No.16588911 Report

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What happened that caused Weavile, Roserade and Gallade to lose so much sympathy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:27:22 No.16588970 Report

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>>16579573
Like- Roserade, Mismagius, Rhyperior, Electivire, Magmortar , Gallade, Weavile, Gliscor, Dusknoir, Mamoswine
Dislike-Ambipom, Porygon-z, Probopass, Lickilicky, Froslass
OK Tier-Togekiss, Honchkrow, Tangrowth, Yanmega, Magnezone

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:34:30 No.16589025 Report

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>>16579900
>Ambipom
>not Pokemon Ping Pong tier

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:52:37 No.16589175 Report

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>>16580547
>giant :^) face

goddamn it.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:56:13 No.16589212 Report

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>>16579972
>rhyperior
>fine design

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:58:44 No.16589244 Report

Quoted By: >>16589407 >>16590357

>>16579573
I like and use Rhyperior, Electivire and Gallade, despite massive hate towards them.

I also happen to like the designs of Mismagius, Honchkrow, Magnezone, Togekiss, Gliscor, Mamoswine, Porygon Z and Froslass.

I've always liked them and did not understand why so many people hate them.

Also, I think they're better than most Mega-Evolutions, design-wise

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:01:13 No.16589267 Report

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I like Magmortar but everyone hates it.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:01:44 No.16589276 Report

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>>16579973
>>16580301

see >>16579999

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:16:44 No.16589407 Report

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>>16589244
>Also, I think they're better than most Mega-Evolutions, design-wise

That makes me wonder...

GF has mentioned a couple of times already that the pool of Pokemon they envisioned/designed was/is far more massive than what gets planted in concurrent gens.

As in: some designs have been developed years before their introduction gen.

Question is:
How many of cross gen evolutions - especially the Sinnoh ones - were developed alongside their prevos/families they were intended for? Weavile and Gallade look like something that wouldn't appear out of place within the respective gens of their original lines.

Meanwhile Megas appear to be relatively recent, with three (?) months of dev time given in total.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:23:25 No.16589459 Report

Quoted By: >>16589559

>>16589407
i guess we'll never know unless GF tells us

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:37:36 No.16589557 Report

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>>16579573
Dusknoir is my alltimebro, mismagius turned a garbagemon into something great. Honchrow similarly turned something unusable into a great bird.

Hell, all of them are pretty okay-to-fantastic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:37:57 No.16589559 Report

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>>16589459

Well, it didn't hurt them to tell that Zygarde has been designed entire years ago.

And, frankly, this could improve how these designs are perceived. I mean, quite a few of those are viewed by vocal fringes as something that has been 'forced' on the fandom as a last minute ad hoc addition, like evos for Rhydon/Electabuzz/Magmar and Dawn Stone evolutions.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:55:46 No.16589706 Report

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>>16580033

Magmar was always ugly, Magmortar makes up for that by making by being good.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:57:57 No.16589718 Report

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>>16580033

Magmar was always ugly, Magmortar makes up for that by being good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:59:07 No.16589723 Report

Quoted By: >>16589757

Better than mega evolutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 13:05:34 No.16589757 Report

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>>16589723

Well, that isn't too much of a contest.

Mega Garchomp did well to fix the mad ugly design of the original.

Abomasnow looks decent and so does Banette and Gengar.

Megas for Medicham and Gardevoir compliment their themes.

Most of the rest ranges between 'okay' and 'meh'.

Mega evos for Lucario, Aerodactyl and Blastoise are deviantART tier - a category I wouldn't give to any of the cross gen evos - Sinnoh or otherwise.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 13:07:37 No.16589772 Report

Quoted By: >>16589815

most are better!
green - better.
yellow - more or less the same vibe.
red - worse. ( although I like Mamoswine competitively and in general I love Ice types.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 13:15:26 No.16589815 Report

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>>16589772

>Froslass
>Better, rather than similar vibe

Just you wait for me to gain a Mega, you icy wench! You will share the fate of your evo stone pal!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 13:22:43 No.16589872 Report

Quoted By: >>16590110 >>16590787

As someone that has always loved Electabuzz and Magmar since Gen 1, I have mixed feelings. I think Electabuzz is a natural progression of the Elekid line but Magmortar? The fire punching Pokemon lost his hands? He was a flaming martial arts duck and now he's some kind of robot? I use an Eviolite Magmar for a reason.

Also, I really like Froslass

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:00:05 No.16590110 Report

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>>16589872
>and now he's some kind of robot?

Funnily enough, this is why I like this fucker so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:33:30 No.16590357 Report

Quoted By: >>16591021

>>16589244
>>16589407

I don't understand it at all.

Are we saying that we won't have any cross-gen evolution anymore? Only Megas?

I've been thinking about it, and I remember when I freaked out when I noticed that Onix got an evolution.

Are you telling me that I won't have a Tauros evolution? or Bouffalant?

Megas are ok but I think they should be applied only to Pokemon who already have a 3rd evolution.

In 6 generation Pinsir and Heracross could have gotten an evolution so easily instead of that awful Tangela or Lickitung.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:53:09 No.16590465 Report

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I love Electivire, he's actually in my top 3 favorite Pokemon.

I hate Lickilicky. The rest are cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:26:20 No.16590743 Report

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I'll always be grateful that GF gave my bros Tangela, Nosepass and Rhydon some much needed boosts especially eviolite for Rhydon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:31:26 No.16590787 Report

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>>16589872

>martial arts

what part of his design even remotely conveyed martial arts

magmar is a kappa/karura, a counterpart to electabuzz's oni. its cannons are added weapons, just like electivire's wires.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:36:23 No.16590815 Report

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I love all of them but Lickilicky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:37:30 No.16590825 Report

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they're all great except for rhyperior and gallade. fucking abominations they are.

roserade is pretty ugly too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:43:27 No.16590864 Report

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Togekiss, Porygon-Z, Gallade (one of my favourites of any Pokemon), Yanmega, Magnezone, Glaceon, and Mamoswine are awesome.

I can take or leave the rest, but I do like most of them. Lickilicky is kind of eh and Rhyperior is a bit lame, but it's nothing I'm too concerned about.

The worst thing was that only like 3 or 4 were in the Sinnoh dex in DP, at least Platinum fixed this. And two Fire types, wtf, then having a Fire E4 user, DP had some really bad design choices.

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Ask 37379563 2286 {2889} Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:44:35 No.16590878 Report

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They're all great except for Ambipom, Honchcrow, Rypherior (I love using it, but it's ugly as hell) and Lickylicky

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:59:09 No.16591021 Report

Quoted By: >>16592457

>>16590357
That's a very valid concern. If GF stops giving cross-gen proper evolutions in favor of Mega, that would seriously lower my interests for the next generations.

I still don't like the concept of Mega Evolutions and their distribution (mostly the distribution), but since they're already here, I kind of just started to accept their existence though I still don't use any save for the times the game required me.

If GF could at least decide wisely on whether underpowered mons require proper evos in the future as opposed to temporary glorified formes, then I suppose I can cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 17:52:46 No.16592457 Report

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>>16591021
>If GF stops giving cross-gen proper evolutions in favor of Mega, that would seriously lower my interests for the next generations.
+1 here

I think MegaEvolution should be something to be rewarded during the match.
Like in Final Fantasy, turbo status, gf summon, you gain it.
I don't know maybe the more damage you deal/absorb the more it charges the megaevolution bar and we are done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 17:56:57 No.16592510 Report

Quoted By: >>16593699

>>16579573

Honchkrow and Dusknoir gave us Eviolite Murkrow/Dusclops.

Killing Mega Smogon Kangaroo and Smogon Bird with Murkrow is pretty satisfying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 19:22:55 No.16593699 Report

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>>16592510
How does Murkrow do either of those things? I could see it crippling them with TWave but Murkrow's never been known for its offensive prowess

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 19:26:49 No.16593749 Report

Quoted By: >>16593967

Honestly, the only thing I dislike is that they all have gimmicky evolution methods instead of just level-up evolution. I understand they probably did this to make up for the continuity that they couldn't be evolved in previous generations, but it still bugs me.

However, I think this is fine for Porygon-Z

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 19:36:16 No.16593873 Report

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Massive improvement tier:
>Weavile
>Electivire
>Honchkrow

Pretty good tier:
>Roserade
>Froslass
>Tangrowth
>Mamoswine

Kind of okay tier:
>Mismagius
>Ambipom
>Magnezone
>Yanmega
>Dusknoir
>Gliscor

Good idea, but poor execution tier:
>Gallade
>Porygon Z
>Probopass

It's shit, but it the prevo was shit to begin with tier:
>Magmortar
>Togekiss
>Lickylickly

Blunder of the century tier:
>Rhyperior

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 19:40:38 No.16593967 Report

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>>16593749
pokemon z comes ou and porygon has a mega evolution. it's missingno.

how do you react?

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:24:28 No.16594701 Report

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>>16593967
>porygon has a mega evolution. it's missingno.

This would be the only Mega Porygon-Z that I would be willing to welcome with open arms.

>inb4 Durr Hurr May-may
Porygon-Z already has a bit of this 'error' vibe built in, pursuing this track further would make as much sense as giving Gallade a Mega without his hips/baloon skirt:

...as much as virtually possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:30:26 No.16594800 Report

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weevile and yanmega are great

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:32:32 No.16594839 Report

Quoted By: >>16596612

The only ones I actually dislike are Roserade and Togekiss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:36:44 No.16594937 Report

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>>16579573
Gen IV was beautiful for Sneasel. The physical special split AND a great evolution. Long after Psychic types stopped being dangerous. And then the problem of low-base power moves revealed itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:41:09 No.16595040 Report

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>>16579573
Most of them are fine.I think Magmortar, Togetic and Lickilicky could have had better designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 22:09:10 No.16596612 Report

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>>16594839

>People love Lilligant

>People hate Roserade

Is there any primary reason for this dichotomy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 22:11:28 No.16596660 Report

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>>16579573
>They were not
>Electivire is literally my favorite pokemon
>Rhyperior is just bad

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