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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 04:38:46 No.16584512 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16586329 >>16586635 >>16586675 >>16586706

>pokegen perfect IV POKEMON in BW
>Give Destiny Knot
>Put Designated Pokemon to breed with it in DayCare
>BOOM, Legit Pokemon caple of being used online and in tournaments

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 06:20:10 No.16586329 Report

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>>16584512
That is the plan, yes. Dittos for perfect 6th gen pokemon. The only issue right now are legendaries, but I assume future tournaments they'll let you use any legal pokemon and/or we'll have 6th gen pokegen or fake GTS's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 06:42:16 No.16586599 Report

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Yeah everyone pretty much realised this already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 06:42:58 No.16586609 Report

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That's what I plan on doing for 6th gen Pokemon and Pokemon with new abilities/egg moves. I already have a boxworth of perfect IV foreign ditto waiting

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 06:45:24 No.16586635 Report

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>>16584512
>move tutor

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 06:49:08 No.16586675 Report

Quoted By: >>16586691 >>16586703

>>16584512
>sending hacked pokemon to pokemon bank
>sending hacked pokemon to your game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 06:49:58 No.16586680 Report

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As long as they hatch and train the Pokemon themselves I wouldn't consider it cheating

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 06:50:40 No.16586691 Report

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>>16586675
that's the plan :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 06:51:09 No.16586703 Report

Quoted By: >>16586751 >>16586922

>>16586675
>not knowing how to make legal hacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 06:51:11 No.16586706 Report

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>>16584512
Thats what everyone expects. The only hitch would be if any pokemon with a non-kalos native parent has the same disqualification as the parent itself. But we won't know for a little while yet.

Memelas (3411 1786 428)(Ghost: Phantump Lampent Golurk)

Memelas (3411 1786 428)(Ghost: Phantump Lampent Golurk) Tue 10 Dec 2013 06:52:51 No.16586745 Report

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>Create perfect dittos in BW
>Put them in GTS
>If that works, take them out gts
Would that ditto be Pokebank able?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 06:53:12 No.16586751 Report

Quoted By: >>16586767 >>16586768 >>16586781 >>16586801

>>16586703
>legal hacks
>implying Game Freak gives a shit if it's a "legal hack" or a cheating hack

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 06:54:16 No.16586767 Report

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>>16586751
confirmed for not knowing what a legal hack is

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 06:54:16 No.16586768 Report

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>>16586751
>implying they can detect them if theyre legal
You dont understand computers do you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 06:54:59 No.16586781 Report

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>>16586751
They can give all the shits they want they don't have the tech to know if my legal hacks are hacks or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 06:56:58 No.16586801 Report

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>>16586751
Genned mons have bypassed through GTS all the time during BW.

It's likely they'll bypass the hack checks for Bank, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 06:59:34 No.16586835 Report

Quoted By: >>16586849 >>16586856 >>16586866 >>16586903

>>16586801
>>16586781
>>16586768
>>16586767

Right, because they are just charging $5 dollars nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:01:03 No.16586849 Report

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>>16586835
Yeah they are pretty much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:01:31 No.16586856 Report

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>>16586835
What is that even supposed to mean? We can replicate Gen 5 Pokemon data structure exactly. A legal hack is 100% indistinguishable from a Pokemon you hatched or caught in the game. They're just files.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:02:28 No.16586866 Report

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>>16586835
yep

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:04:02 No.16586892 Report

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Despite how efficient their hack security turns out to be, all mons obtained via RNG abuse will pass anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:04:42 No.16586903 Report

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>>16586835
Basically what they mean is hacking a Pokemon to the point were it is can pass for 100% legit. GF most likely will not figure out how to stop hacking in Pokemon. Ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:05:33 No.16586922 Report

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>>16586703
>legal
>hacks
pick one

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:07:36 No.16586948 Report

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>>16586903
Just checking, I mean, it is Game Freak, so I wouldn't be surprised if their pitiful attempt to stop hacked pokemon from getting through falls flat on it's ass. I mean, we already know the three failure legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:07:50 No.16586954 Report

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>>16586922
Did you just completely ignore the post above you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:09:37 No.16586971 Report

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>Ditto
>6IV
>Legal

Yea sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:10:39 No.16586987 Report

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You only way for them to temporarily stop hacking would have been to not make transferring possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:16:53 No.16587066 Report

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>>16586987
Its already been shown it can be hacked by the guy who released that trio. It's inevitable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:24:43 No.16587157 Report

Quoted By: >>16587170 >>16587193 >>16587202 >>16587380

I am honestly wondering if bank will block pokegen.

I won't be disappointed if it can't, but it would be interesting to watch genners bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:26:08 No.16587170 Report

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>>16587157
Its literally impossible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:27:12 No.16587193 Report

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>>16587157
99% sure it can't.

It's more complex than this, but pokemon stats? Just numbers. If they can be changed, they can't be detected. The only way would be to apply some sort of ever changing cryptographic system on each pokemon, but you can't apply it retroactively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:27:46 No.16587199 Report

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>>16587170
inb4 Literally
normally i would call you out on it. but more than likely, you're right. i will be fucking amazed if they found a way to reliably block it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:27:57 No.16587202 Report

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>>16587157
I hope it goes through but I'm not planning on importing every fucking pokemon 6IV, shiny, etc.

I just want to dump some Ditto into my game because I refuse to beg for Ditto Safari codes and waste countless hours of my life just to breed some good IV mons.

With that being said, I would be shocked if GF somehow does find a way to block them - not including the obviously hacked ones that some basic check stops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:29:39 No.16587238 Report

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>>16587193
It exists, it's called Junk Data.

And to my knowledge Pokegen and Pokecheck already know how to make the Junk Data look legal too. There'd have to be something all the data mining never uncovered, which is pretty damn unlikely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:30:35 No.16587247 Report

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>>16587199
Dude, it IS impossible. PokeGen pokemon are exactly 100% identical to game-generated Pokemon files. Theres no "what if". There is no kind of detection that can be concocted that would detect hacks, because there is absolutely nothing to detect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:30:51 No.16587254 Report

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>>16587238
right yeah, extra bits. That's why I meant constantly changing algorithms, because pokemon fans have infinite time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:33:12 No.16587281 Report

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>>16587247
no, for real i'm with you. i'm only saying, we won't know if we're right for 3 weeks. and i can only imagine the shockwave on both sides, if, by some fucking miracle, GF does something right. Genner tears, and Breeder circlejerking for months.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:41:41 No.16587380 Report

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>>16587157

The only chance it has is if they had this idea a whole gen ago and laid the seeds there. Bits of codes no one knew what to do with and the like.

But then genners will figure it out, go back and make a new bw2 pokegen that will work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:44:10 No.16587404 Report

Quoted By: >>16587424 >>16587425 >>16587446 >>16587448

what if they made pokebanked pokemon sterile?
you'd still get your old pokes for the living pokedex and shit but you wouldnt be able to get the little pentagon on older pokes until they release the next games

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:46:30 No.16587424 Report

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>>16587404
then there would be an unholy uproar of fucking pandemonium because they fucked over everyone's bros, regardless of if they were hacking or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:46:32 No.16587425 Report

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>>16587404

That

That would be fucked up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:48:35 No.16587446 Report

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>>16587404
that could be pretty funny
it would probably create a great deal of weird art relating to the event

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:48:39 No.16587448 Report

Quoted By: >>16587470

>>16587404
>You wouldn't be able to get the little pentagon on older pokes until they release the next games.
>Implying Pokemon transferred from Gens III-V will ever get it.

The pentagon is exclusive to 'mons generated in Gen VI (and possibly XY), trasferred 'mons will never get it.

>>16587404

Or they could just make transferred hex flawless 'mons sterile, GF would have less of an uproar from that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:50:32 No.16587466 Report

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>>16586903
Pokemon MMO that's entirely server based. Please, based GameFreak.

chinese gold farmers now farm shinies

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:50:44 No.16587470 Report

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>>16587448
>punishing people for having 'mons with perfect IV's
way to spit in the face of all the legit breeders from past generations efforts.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 07:52:04 No.16587483 Report

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>>16587466

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