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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:33:28 No.16588664 View View Reply Original Report

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>Gengar
>Blaziken
>Zygarde
>Xerneas
>Greninja
>Mewtwo
>Garchomp
>Charizard
>Yveltal
>Angislash
>Klefki

Is winning all that important that these people must limit their creativity and originality? When was the last time you battled someone without these Pokemon in their team?

I can understand people want to win in Ranked Battles and competitions - to be the best you need to use the best - but when I'm challenged to a free battle and I see any of these Pokemon I can't help but groan.

There are over 600 Pokemon, you'd think you would see more diverse teams..

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:37:05 No.16588673 Report

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>>16588664
Don't forget Tyranitar and Rotom-Smog.

Angus 4098-3596-9772 Growlithe, Larvesta, Braxien

Angus 4098-3596-9772 Growlithe, Larvesta, Braxien Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:39:25 No.16588682 Report

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>>16588664
Battle me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:39:57 No.16588684 Report

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>>16588664
OU the team, the movie, the game is popular for a reason; they're powerful pokemon that are easy to use and have good synergy. As for the legendaries, I've come across maybe one person that uses them properly and the rest are probably kids that just caught them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:40:05 No.16588687 Report

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>>16588673

Hey, take this to your advantage. These people are predictable as all fuck and it's easy to counter them.

I do agree though. Whenever I see those pokes I just groan. Is winning so important that you actually have to skip having fun, challenging matches?

>>16588673

As well as Talonflame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:49:01 No.16588732 Report

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>wanting people to win less because of for "creativity"

OP please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:50:04 No.16588739 Report

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>>16588687

A team of my favorites wouldn't be a "fun, challenging match". I'd lose in almost a heartbeat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:51:26 No.16588746 Report

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You'd think gamefreak would be aware that they're cranking out absurdly overpowered shit that invalidates large numbers of pokemon. it's almost like they don't give a shit and only care about making flashy things to attract children because the games will sell now matter what they do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:51:30 No.16588747 Report

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>>16588732
>caring about winning with no reward in a video game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:51:50 No.16588752 Report

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>>16588739
Not OP, but he never mentioned favourites. Anything outside the main 20 could be considered creative at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:52:20 No.16588757 Report

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>>16588747

Why even bother to play if you aren't going to try to win?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:53:43 No.16588771 Report

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>>16588739

Pretty much this >>16588752
Any member of Team OU can be OHKOd by something less popular, and the fact they're so predictable makes it that easy. It just takes a bit of strategy, which a lot of these players don't use. Why should they when they use "Push button to win" pokes, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:54:06 No.16588778 Report

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>>16588757
I play to have fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:55:14 No.16588785 Report

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>>16588778

Since when is losing fun?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:55:21 No.16588786 Report

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>>16588757
fun

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:55:47 No.16588790 Report

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>>16588757
>>16588778
Oh boy, here we go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:56:14 No.16588794 Report

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>>16588778
>>16588786

Winning is fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:56:46 No.16588797 Report

Quoted By: >>16588867

Karenfag please

I use what works

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 10:58:29 No.16588811 Report

Quoted By: >>16590092 >>16590158

Building UU teams with a sprinkling of OU mons seems to give me the most enjoyment on wi-fi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:00:43 No.16588819 Report

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>>16588785
Regardless if I win or lose I still have fun. These Pokemon, however, ain't helping. It's boring to face the same Pokemon in every battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:01:33 No.16588823 Report

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that's why I hate mega-evolutions. They made viable Mawile, Charizard and Kanga, but other than that, they just made strong pokemon even stronger. Seriously, Blaziken, Lucario, Gengar, Mewtwo, Garchomp?What the fuck? At least give all the pseudos a Mega, if the requirement for giving mega is being popular

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:09:04 No.16588867 Report

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>>16588794
>>16588797
Stick to ranked if you want to play to win, then. Or are you so shit at the game that you have to go after 12 year olds to get your 'victories'?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:10:01 No.16588875 Report

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>>16588867

I *do* stick to ranked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:11:58 No.16588884 Report

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>>16588875
Then why are you posting in this thread?

>>16588664
>I can understand people want to win in Ranked Battles and competitions - to be the best you need to use the best - but when I'm challenged to a free battle and I see any of these Pokemon I can't help but groan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:14:09 No.16588896 Report

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>>16588884

Because OP is a faggot who can't handle the idea that some people might actually have the most fun by using good Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:15:04 No.16588900 Report

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I agree, when I see teams of a few of these guys I don't even bother to fight, I just restart my DS. I have already fought them enough and if I wanna refight them I have replays to go to.

I do use Charizard but that because I have always used her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:18:36 No.16588918 Report

Quoted By: >>16588942 >>16590764

>>16588896
Seems to me he understands that, he just doesn't approve of that style of play. Can't say I blame him either, why use the same copypaste OU bullshit in every match if you can do the same thing on Showdown with other likeminded individuals in a much more efficient fashion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:20:39 No.16588933 Report

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his is why GF needs to really make other poekemon viable, too. I mean many others probably are, but they are outclassed by strong pokemon who were made even stronger.

It's a vicious cycle. Strong pokemon become popular, and because they;re popular, they get mega-evolutions. Wtf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:22:39 No.16588942 Report

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>>16588918
>why use the same copypaste OU bullshit in every match if you can do the same thing on Showdown with other likeminded individuals in a much more efficient fashion?

Because they feel like playing the game that they paid for the way they want to. Why can't you get over the fact that people are naturally going to use things that work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:26:16 No.16588966 Report

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>>16588942
That's cool, they're entitled to that, just like I'm entitled to think it's absolutely silly when there's a much better alternative for what they're looking for available for an astounding $40 cheaper than what they paid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:26:44 No.16588967 Report

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>>16588942
we can't all be contrarians

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:28:49 No.16588984 Report

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>>16588966
>That's cool, they're entitled to that

Great, now stop whining.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:30:45 No.16588995 Report

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>>16588664
Shut up loser, learn to play pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:37:00 No.16589049 Report

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>>16588995
How about you learn to git gud without using cookie cutter teams if that's what you're trying to imply here.
Oh wait I'm sorry you don't need to git gud with cookie cutter pokemon from smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:41:18 No.16589090 Report

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>>16589049

I'd say that because the only people crying are you faggots and not the faggots using cookie cutter teams that you're the ones that need to git gud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:44:07 No.16589117 Report

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>>16589090
i am gud scrub

what's u're showdown rating? o wait u only play cart free battles cuz u can't win against us REAL pokepros :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:45:17 No.16589123 Report

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>>16589090

Who's saying they're not crying?
I can hear them screaming in frustration halfway across the globe after they ragequit whenever their psuedos and OU mons die to pokemon who aren't OU: The Movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:46:19 No.16589131 Report

Quoted By: >>16590113

>kyogre and deoxys not there
okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:51:51 No.16589169 Report

Quoted By: >>16589245

Gamefreaks should modify the base stats of all the OU Pokemon and nerf them in the next generation just to troll everyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 11:59:06 No.16589245 Report

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>>16589169
How would this troll anyone but karenfags? Smogon would just use the next best pokemon, just as they always have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:04:15 No.16589297 Report

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>People use these Pokemons because Smogon/VGC teams say they are good
>Not people use them because they ARE good.
Sure whatever, there's a reason there's only like 30 Pokemon or so used in VGC teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 13:55:53 No.16590092 Report

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>>16588811

Mein nigger. I do the exact same thing.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 13:59:47 No.16590109 Report

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> mfw when I use charizard and greninja and I don't give a fuck

Although I run charizard Y instead of X so there's that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:00:55 No.16590113 Report

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>>16589131
Not available before Pokebank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:03:35 No.16590127 Report

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>>16590109
Same thing. Y is starting to become more popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:04:47 No.16590131 Report

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Anyone think they'd see the day when HURR DURR IRRITATING IGNEOUS MUH GENWUNNER APPEAL Charizard became an "unoriginal no fun allowed Smogon-approved winning-is-all-that-matters" poke?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:07:42 No.16590144 Report

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>>16590127
I love that it hits like a nuke without needing to set up. Only thing is the lack of speed boosting because dragon dance is pointless on it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:07:44 No.16590145 Report

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>>16588785
>>16588794
No, Losing Is Fun.
That's why people play DF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:09:00 No.16590158 Report

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>>16588811
I do the same.

Most of my favourites are in UU (Like Kindra and Machamp) but I'll include a favourite or two from OU (Like Gengar and Alakazam) to really strengthen the team and make sure it holds up to higher tiered mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:29:15 No.16590328 Report

Quoted By: >>16590343

I really don't see that many Gengar. Most of the people with Legendaries on their team are newbs and get wrecked by well-bred mons.

And can't Charizard have his time to shine? Has he even really been that viable prior to Gen 6?

Also I don't get how you left off Talonflame. Fucking everybody uses Talonflame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:31:39 No.16590343 Report

Quoted By: >>16590479 >>16590669

>>16590328
I'm kinda new to pokemon, but what's so good about Talonflame that makes everyone complain about it?
I've seen it used several times, and it was never anything close to uncontrollable. But that is probably because the people using it were bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:54:59 No.16590479 Report

Quoted By: >>16595012

>>16590343
Priority has always been good to have there are a lot of very powerful Pokemon that can make use of it this gen.

Talonflame is at the top of the list with not only priority Bravebird (a bit diminished with a low attack stat but still scary) but priority roost and tailwind in doubles. It's not only perfect for scaring bugs and fighting types but works great in a support role for slower teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:18:31 No.16590669 Report

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>>16590343
It's fast and gets priority Brave Bird. I'm no expert at the games and have only played Gen 6 "competitively". I usually counter Talonflame with a bulky mon that can take Brave Bird hits while capitalizing on the recoil. People still love Talonflame, though.

I'm an UU guy and my main consideration is which Pokemon I think are cool, with combat viability as my secondary concern. I guess I'm a contrarian in that running the same OU mons as everyone else doesn't appeal to me at all. You will never see me with M-Kanga on my team but I'll be out there with Pangoro or Golurk getting my ass handed to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:23:19 No.16590710 Report

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You forgot Kanga.
Anyway I use a special chicken because I find it funny, I'm not sure if that counts as cookiecutter too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:24:24 No.16590722 Report

Quoted By: >>16591050

>zygarde
He doesn't seem that impressive the few times I've seen him, what can he do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:27:14 No.16590751 Report

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Question OP, do you want to win?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:28:11 No.16590764 Report

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>>16588918
I'm with you. I'm not saying I won't use OU mons but I'm not going to make a team comprised entirely of the hardest hitters just because I know they will win. Makes the game boring and predictable. There's hundreds of choices; it's too bad more of them aren't viable, because I think the game would be more fun to play competitively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:36:05 No.16590812 Report

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>>16588664
yesterday

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:37:08 No.16590823 Report

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>>16588664
Because they listen to whatever Smogon tells them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:46:46 No.16590900 Report

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>>16588664
> There are over 600 Pokemon...

To be fair, most of the 600s will be unusable, unless you want a challenge by playing unevolved pokemons. Like, a team of baby pokemon like Pichu?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:50:40 No.16590939 Report

Quoted By: >>16590971

I don't understand why one would use something that's worse than something else just to be "creative". It's like playing chess with less pieces than the opponent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:52:48 No.16590971 Report

Quoted By: >>16590996 >>16591091 >>16591108

>>16590939
Because most things that Smogon writes off as "useless" are actually quite good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:56:14 No.16590996 Report

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>>16590971

Yeah, quite good, but usually they are worse in what they do than something else. Try to look at pokemon the way I do - by forgetting the sprite/model altogether. If something better is available, of course I immediately use it over something worse, because the worse mon has nothing over the better one.

Yes, I understand there are mons which fill specific niches. But that usually means using a valuable team slot for something too specific, which leaves more holes in the team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:01:14 No.16591044 Report

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I look at it as playing to win with what you have. So I can go in with my super OU team or I can use a bunch of NU ones and do my best to work them. Winning or losing, I satisfied my drive to play with oddball shit.

But this is for me, and I don't expect it to be followed by someone else as the faggot OP expects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:01:49 No.16591050 Report

Quoted By: >>16595174

>>16590722
Its just a bulkier, slower, weaker version of Garchomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:05:55 No.16591091 Report

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>>16590971
What pokemon does smogon write off as useless?
Its articles are made to try to get the most out of pokemon in their respective power tiers.
The only article where smogon actually calls a pokemon useless is in the magikarp one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:07:02 No.16591108 Report

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>>16590971
It's not that stuff is written off as useless, it's just that with things like Swampert, Slowbro, etc. there are things that just do the job better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:08:03 No.16591119 Report

Quoted By: >>16591291

>>16591091
Yeah this, they try to make a niche for every mon by only listing sets some other mon won't do better in the same tier. So yeah, they really write nothing but actually useless mons as useless (Ones with absolutely no niche like farfetch'd, spinda and the like)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:09:32 No.16591129 Report

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>>16588785
You've never had a really great match that you just lose by the skin of your teeth have you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:18:16 No.16591214 Report

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>>16588664
>Zygarde
Really? I have never been battling against a single Zygarde-User and I had my fair share of Mewtwo, Yveltal/Xerneas, Charizard, Gengar, Aegislash-teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:18:41 No.16591216 Report

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I've been OHKOd my free battle team by Life Orb Mewtwos and LifeOrb Protean Greninja's. I just sit there while its happening and think: Is this really fun for them? Sweeping peoples teams with no challenge or variety? Oh boy omg u r so strong. I get it.

Mind you my team isn't at all competitive so I don't expect to win much, but I have fun using my Pyroar and not cookie-cutter teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:20:00 No.16591227 Report

Quoted By: >>16591251 >>16591283

>>16591091
If I remember correctly the Delcatty one is pleading with the reader "Please use something other than Delcatty."

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:22:26 No.16591251 Report

Quoted By: >>16591350

>>16591227
yeah, because delcatty's only niche is normalize which sucks. There's really nothing good in normalize except for the ability to twave grounds and electrics. Yay.
I'd say they write delcatty off as outclassed, because that's what it is.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:25:43 No.16591283 Report

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>>16591227
oh and have you fucking seen these stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:27:05 No.16591291 Report

Quoted By: >>16591400

>>16591091
>>16591119
Bullshit. Smogon sets up a controlled environment for people to play in. There's no niche, it's simply "play by our rules" It would be fine if all Smogon was was a suggestion site, but people take them as absolute fact. You don't encounter tiers when playing the actual game, yet people still have a tier mindset because of Smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:27:36 No.16591295 Report

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I saw a guy with an "all frog" team the other day, Poliwrath, Politoed, Seismitoad, Greninja, Toxicroak and Venusaur as a 6th (kinda like a frog, I guess.)

Then I realized at the end of the day, he still had Politoed and Greninja on his team. So fuck him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:28:04 No.16591300 Report

Quoted By: >>16591317 >>16591335 >>16591407

>Implying there will ever be a better analysis than Platinum Unown

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:30:52 No.16591317 Report

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>>16591300
Farfetch'd is good, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:32:16 No.16591335 Report

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>>16591300
>This is an ingenious moveset spread across the ages, constructed piece by piece with painstaking care in the arching caverns and ancient machinery of the most devious and cunning hive mind in the history of anything.

I fucking love this analysis.

Hajibab 1392-4902-1126 IGN: Sophia {2642}

Hajibab 1392-4902-1126 IGN: Sophia {2642} Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:32:22 No.16591337 Report

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>>16588664
Hey, I actually like Garchomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:33:39 No.16591350 Report

Quoted By: >>16591447

>>16591251
Delcatty actually got worse in Gen 6, with Electrics being immune to paralysis. Go figure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:37:14 No.16591400 Report

Quoted By: >>16591433

>>16591291
Lol what. Do you fucking understand smogon? They make the tiers so that more mons would get their chance to shine. If there was only one tier, the completely outclassed mons would never see use anywhere, because nobody in their right fucking mind would use something that's worse in all fields than something else which is also available.

This is also why sometimes mons from lower tiers are seen in OU, they happen to have some sort of a niche there. Like for example a baton passer like Ninjask: Baton pass teams can use it in OU, but they are few far and between so it resides in a lower tier. Because it's not used enough to be OverUsed. And not strong enough to be banned from lower tiers.

This is a thing I don't understand, people are mad at smogon while only thing they are trying to do is make more mons usable and create many enjoyable and balanced metas. The top sets just happen to be the best way to use the top mons, which is why people use them. Again, why would someone use something that's worse than something else?

tldr learn what smogon actually does

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:37:44 No.16591407 Report

Quoted By: >>16591424

>>16591300
I prefer the ADV one.

>Check counters

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:38:52 No.16591424 Report

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>>16591407
>Overview

>lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:39:29 No.16591433 Report

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>>16591400
It's because their pet pokemon aren't considered OU or Ubers, so it's all shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:40:19 No.16591444 Report

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>I choose to use shit pokemon
>therefore other people shouldn't be allowed to use good pokemon
Some of you guys are fucking retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:40:39 No.16591447 Report

Quoted By: >>16594452

>>16591350
oh true. And oh I was wrong, it's only niche was to paralyze grounds w/twave, electrics could be paralyzed before with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:49:26 No.16591551 Report

Quoted By: >>16592378

>>16588771
>Any member of Team OU can be OHKOd by something less popular
I groan whenever someone uses an argument like this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 17:46:18 No.16592378 Report

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>>16591551
I understand what Smogon does and why they do it, and it is a good effort to balance the game so that all Pokemon have a chance to shine in different tiers, but most folk mistake the OU tier as being "the only Pokemon worth using", hence you get your cookie-cutter teams. They also fail to understand that the team structure and strategies that they are copying are built with the intention of only being run against OTHER Pokemon in the same tier. Certain moves, stat spreads and type coverages are never even considered by the smogon teams because they never expect to see a threat from a lower tier, despite the fact that many Pokemon in those lower tiers are more than capable of holding their own against OU with the proper strategies.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 19:58:47 No.16594248 Report

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>mfw i use my unpopular poketem and rape every frog dragon, voire or whatever-skan
Being smart is so fucking easy in pokemon games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:05:45 No.16594367 Report

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I'm more interested on how people Use their teams rather than their 'originality'.

Git gud OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:11:02 No.16594452 Report

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>>16591447
That reminds me. Stunfisk gets limber. That is Rotom-Fan levels of retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:35:06 No.16594900 Report

Quoted By: >>16594957 >>16595125

>>16588664
>Sunflora
>Stunfisk
>Masquerian
>Solrock
>Girafarig
>Stantler
>Lunatone
>Pyroar
>Spinda
>Torkoal
>Grumpig

Is being original all that important that these people must limit their potential and power? When was the last time you battled someone good with these Pokemon in their team?

I can understand people want to be special in their own way - to stand out from the crowd you have to stray far from it - but when I'm challenged to a rated battle and I see any of these Pokemon I can't help but groan.

There are many of the 600 Pokemon that are consistently bad, you'd think you would see them less often...

It's because people want to win as often as possible, and really, the people who are using just the pokemon you listed aren't even the good competitive players.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:37:36 No.16594957 Report

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>>16594900
>Pyroar
Why, why couldn't it just be good? All I wanted was a cool Normal/Fire sweeper. Just give it base 120 SpAtk and Flash Fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:39:58 No.16595012 Report

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>>16590479
Priority BB from Talon is 40% stronger than Priority BP from Scizor. Let that sink in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:43:37 No.16595083 Report

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>>16591091
The happiny one as well. Basically it really shits over pokemon that don't have any use anywhere, even in their own tiers, like sunkern.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:45:20 No.16595125 Report

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>>16594900

>>Solrock
>>Lunatone

Why must they suck so goddamn bad? I want to win, and there is simply no way I can justify using them for anything. Anything they bring to the table can be done better by other pokemon.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:48:22 No.16595174 Report

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>>16591050
With access to Dragon Dance, E-Speed, Coil and several other tools and will likely get a forme change in the next game that will pump him up.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:53:38 No.16595316 Report

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>Charizard
So is it actually good now? I'm guessing with a mega form? Also which one?

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View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Marowak.jpg, 666KiB, 686x1024

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:59:38 No.16595407 Report

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>>16588664
I use some of those but never all on the same team at once. Maybe like 1 or 2. I've recently been branching out and training pokemon I usually don't go for.
>mfw I swept a smogon team with Marowak

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 21:04:30 No.16595467 Report

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>>16588664
Honestly it's not those pokemon you should worry about. It's mostly just people copying and pasting shit without even knowing how to properly use them.

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