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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:37:51 No.16589558 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16589581 >>16589655 >>16589685 >>16590383 >>16590700 >>16592736

I made a defensive-as-fuck Umbreon and I get making people forfeit matches with the Toxic/Protect/Wish combo.

The only type I have trouble dealing with are bulky steel types.

Am I a terrible person?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:41:03 No.16589581 Report

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>>16589558
No, because Umbreon is best eeveelution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:49:03 No.16589655 Report

Quoted By: >>16589705

>>16589558
not until you run curse/amnesia/rest+chesto berry/iron head registeel or a fucking swagger/foulplay/substitute liepard

At least you don't use PP Kangaskahn

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:52:35 No.16589685 Report

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>>16589558
You're a pretty cool guy OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:55:32 No.16589705 Report

Quoted By: >>16589714

>>16589655
>liepard

People...people us liepard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:56:33 No.16589709 Report

Quoted By: >>16589881

I have wanted to use Umbreon on my team so fuck it I will! What natures and EVs did you use OP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 12:57:16 No.16589714 Report

Quoted By: >>16590336 >>16590374

>>16589705
yep. Prankster with swagger and foul play while hiding behind a substitute. Most annoying thing ever. I've seen it done with Sableye too but Liepard seems to be preferred for the speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 13:00:17 No.16589728 Report

Quoted By: >>16589867

when Pokebank comes I'm gonna run Foul Play, Wish, Baton Pass, Snatch Umbreon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 13:04:48 No.16589754 Report

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>Defensive-as-fuck Umbreon

YOU BASTARD
I just bred an Eevee to do just this...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 13:13:05 No.16589799 Report

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Dark type is too shit to defend against now. At least before you didn't have to think about fairy types but most teams will carry at least 2 fairy moves in case of dragons.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 13:14:06 No.16589803 Report

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umbreon a shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 13:22:07 No.16589867 Report

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>>16589728

I want Foul Play on this fucker so bad.

Right now it's just running Payback for lack of any better options and in case I get trapped in a taunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 13:24:40 No.16589881 Report

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>>16589709

Bold, maxed out his HP and Special Defense.

Topped off the rest of a Defensive investment just in case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 13:52:29 No.16590075 Report

Quoted By: >>16590269 >>16590376

Interesting idea OP. I'm curious as to why you're using Wish and not Moonlight though. I've never used Wish but wouldn't an instant heal be better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:21:18 No.16590269 Report

Quoted By: >>16596204

>>16590075

I ran Moonlight for a bit, but it wasn't jiving with the set I built.

Wish is good for Toxic-stalling.

Hit 'em with a Toxic, Protect next turn, take the hit, bam - Full HP.

Plus I have Leftovers on him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:30:44 No.16590336 Report

Quoted By: >>16590684

>>16589714
can't boo-boo-keys do that too? and get priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:31:54 No.16590346 Report

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his entire existence was to finally destroy the fast psychics forever. Use him still to spit on their graves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:36:07 No.16590374 Report

Quoted By: >>16590378

>>16589714
You can make an entire team for that.
6 different pokemon with prankster, sub, thunder wave, foul play and swagger.

I've yet to meet one player who withstanded an entire match against this team without forfeiting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:36:42 No.16590376 Report

Quoted By: >>16590395

>>16590075
>Toxic wish stalling
>interesting or new idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:38:06 No.16590378 Report

Quoted By: >>16590392

>>16590374

Anyone with an espeon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:39:01 No.16590383 Report

Quoted By: >>16590388

>>16589558
I do the same with Toxic, Sub, Confuse ray and Wish

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:39:48 No.16590388 Report

Quoted By: >>16590400

>>16590383
Enjoy your Taunt, nerd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:40:39 No.16590392 Report

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>>16590378
He still dies to Foul Play.
And can't bounce back shit against substitute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:41:02 No.16590395 Report

Quoted By: >>16590419 >>16596204

>>16590376
Doesn't matter unless they actually manage to KO you in 2 turns ( becomes mission impossible when you run substitute.

Wish also allows support options if you feel the need to switch out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:42:03 No.16590400 Report

Quoted By: >>16590419

>>16590388
Gee too bad no faggots ever seem to bother running it anymore.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:42:48 No.16590403 Report

Quoted By: >>16590441

Am I doing it right?

Umbreon (Careful)
252 HP/92 Def/164 Sp.Def
-Payback
-Toxic
-Wish
-Protect

Vaporeon (Bold)
252 HP/252 Def/6 Speed
-Scald
-Acid Armor
-Wish
-Protect

Well?

Lightning Flash

Lightning Flash Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:44:07 No.16590410 Report

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Watch out for Synchronize users as well.

Eventually, the Toxic poison will be more than wish can handle. Have something with Aromatherapy or Heal Bell to mitigate this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:44:28 No.16590412 Report

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Defensive trevenant with leech seed/curse/horn leech/protect while it's holding a sitrus berry is just hilarious

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:44:38 No.16590414 Report

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with crits nerfed I keep wondering if pokes like umbreon get way more popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:44:49 No.16590419 Report

Quoted By: >>16590437

>>16590400
>not running taunt always on your team
it's like you LIKE actually letting some faggot hazard smeargle or pass to kangaskhan XDDD scolipede set up.

>>16590395
What are you even saying. I'm just saying it's not new, or interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:49:34 No.16590437 Report

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>>16590419
Sorry meant to link that to the dude asking why not Moonlight

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:50:13 No.16590441 Report

Quoted By: >>16590452

>>16590403
Umbreon seems like a better wall compared to Vaporeon.

If you are running Acid Armor, better move those Def EVs to SpDef.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:51:27 No.16590452 Report

Quoted By: >>16590500

>>16590441
except Umbreon has shit defensive typing compared to Vaporeon, and less HP for wish passing, and a worse ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:55:06 No.16590480 Report

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>Umbreon can learn Dark Pulse through TM again
YESSSSSS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:57:58 No.16590498 Report

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>do the same with a Scald Vaporeon
>the only thing which doesn't get burns are fire types who won't switch into a Water type

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 14:58:18 No.16590500 Report

Quoted By:

>>16590452
With the spread he posted, it'll be like this at lvl 50.

Umbreon:
HP 202
Atk 85
Def 142
SpA 72
SpD 188
Spd 85

Vaporeon:
HP 237
Atk 76
Def 123
SpA 130
SpD 115
Spd 86

Even with mixed defenses, Umbreon is better. I bet that Umbreon can take a Bug Buzz like a champ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:15:16 No.16590642 Report

Quoted By: >>16590658 >>16590659

Is prankster the new weather?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:17:13 No.16590658 Report

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>>16590642
Its more priority is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:17:44 No.16590659 Report

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>>16590642

priority is the new weather

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:19:41 No.16590681 Report

Quoted By: >>16590689 >>16590690

I use Funbro and am considering making an entire team of Funbro variants.

Am I a terrible person?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:20:12 No.16590684 Report

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>>16590336
Liepard has prankster, so both have priority, also STAB Foul Play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:21:25 No.16590689 Report

Quoted By: >>16590727

>>16590681
Yes. The only people with more autism then funbro users are the people that never quit the match.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:21:26 No.16590690 Report

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>>16590681
Not really, there is usually only one or two pokemon you can trap with funbro. Having any more than one won't make a difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:22:19 No.16590700 Report

Quoted By: >>16590728 >>16590848 >>16600868

>>16589558
>people still use this
What is this? Gen 4?

This set is shut down by so many common things. You're battling scrubs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:24:44 No.16590727 Report

Quoted By: >>16590760

>>16590689
I've never had anyone get past 200 turns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:24:46 No.16590728 Report

Quoted By: >>16590756

>>16590700
Every set has counters, but that doesnt means they arent useful, mainly with newplayers/smogoncapypastas

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:27:31 No.16590756 Report

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>>16590728
>new players
You can't claim something is good when all you're doing is beating new players with it.

I understand every set has counters, but that type of Umbreon has lots and lots of common and easy counters. It's just not good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:28:00 No.16590760 Report

Quoted By: >>16590977

>>16590727
there was a match a couple nights ago that went to 490~ turns before the funbro user fucked it up and ran out of heal pulse then procedeed to get swept

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:41:02 No.16590848 Report

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>>16590700
Smogon pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:43:29 No.16590866 Report

Quoted By: >>16590877

/v/ sees smogon as gary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:44:33 No.16590877 Report

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>>16590866
err i mean /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:53:27 No.16590977 Report

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>>16590760
And the same day we went to turn 2013.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:58:18 No.16591013 Report

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should I go with
Curse/moonlight/payback/ protect
or wish?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 15:59:03 No.16591019 Report

Quoted By: >>16591159 >>16591209

stall-fags are the queerest players

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:12:26 No.16591159 Report

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>>16591019
what's cute is the ones that wont switch out their wall against your stall pokes then complain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 16:18:05 No.16591209 Report

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>>16591019
The ones that I hate the most are the folks who outskill me and have me at their mercy, could easily finish the match off, then just continue to stall or use unnecessary moves just to eat up time.
You know what youre doing. I dont disconnect because it pisses me off when I almost win and I dont get the satisfaction of beating you. But please dont do this

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 17:48:22 No.16592407 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 18:12:15 No.16592736 Report

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>>16589558
Don't get taunted and you'll be fine

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:49:53 No.16595214 Report

Quoted By: >>16595318

umbreon has no moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:53:45 No.16595318 Report

Quoted By: >>16598142

>>16595214
toxic
mean look
wish
double team

all you need right there

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:54:21 No.16595329 Report

Quoted By: >>16596015 >>16597189

umbreon is the most masculine eevee

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 20:59:42 No.16595408 Report

Quoted By: >>16595937

Curse/Toxic/Payback/Rest

Now that Dark is neutral on Steel, this set is even better than before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 21:34:50 No.16595937 Report

Quoted By: >>16596204

>>16595408
Why wish instead of moonlight?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 21:39:30 No.16596015 Report

Quoted By: >>16600683

>>16595329
>implying it isn't jolteon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 21:49:16 No.16596204 Report

Quoted By:

>>16595937
See >>16590269 and >>16590395

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 22:39:37 No.16597189 Report

Quoted By: >>16597490

>>16595329
>not sylveon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 22:57:18 No.16597490 Report

Quoted By:

>>16597189
Getting real sick of that joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 23:26:38 No.16598043 Report

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What Nature works best for Umbreon? I was thinking Calm and putting Dark Pulse in the 4th slot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2013 23:30:58 No.16598142 Report

Quoted By:

>>16595318
not if you get taunted

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2013 01:26:27 No.16600683 Report

Quoted By:

>>16596015
This pic disturbs me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2013 01:34:26 No.16600868 Report

Quoted By: >>16601170

>>16590700

>it can be shut down so you shouldn't use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2013 01:47:24 No.16601170 Report

Quoted By: >>16601691

>>16600868
Ignore the Smogonbabbies for they know not how to wage battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2013 02:09:12 No.16601691 Report

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>>16601170

It's just funny. People are like that in MMOs as well.

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