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Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 21:47:03 No.16674485 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16674560 >>16674574 >>16674691 >>16679666 >>16681482

>Hidden Power is now 60 power instead of 30-70
How does this make you feel?

Anon

Anon Sat 14 Dec 2013 21:49:28 No.16674533 Report

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meh, i never used hp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 21:50:32 No.16674550 Report

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makes it a lot easier to breed for one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 21:51:08 No.16674558 Report

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It kind of sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 21:51:19 No.16674560 Report

Quoted By: >>16675021

>>16674485
It makes me feel like we need a fucking physical equivalent of it, that's what.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 21:52:06 No.16674571 Report

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I never used it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 21:52:13 No.16674574 Report

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>>16674485
literlly anyone who finds it a problem only played on simulators or abused rng

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 21:52:28 No.16674579 Report

Quoted By: >>16675737

i'm glad for the nerf because it gave special attackers coverage physical attackers didn't

this way it'll only be used to counter specific frets

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 21:55:42 No.16674626 Report

Quoted By: >>16674654 >>16674700 >>16674811

How about the fact there is no Fairy Hidden Power, to keep the types same across generations?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 21:57:25 No.16674654 Report

Quoted By: >>16680310

>>16674626
that shit hacked me off and i dunno why they did it

straight-up the only people who'd complain about a formula change would be hackers/rng users who gf would want to punish anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 21:58:11 No.16674664 Report

Quoted By: >>16674721

>Just checked my team and my Heliolisk has HP Ice
Shit's gonna be fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 21:59:24 No.16674691 Report

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>>16674485
Bretty gud. That way HP cannot be abused and doesn't make certain Pokemon artificially good. Besides it's already hard as fuck to breed for HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 21:59:55 No.16674700 Report

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>>16674626
>tfw no Zoroark with HP Fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 22:00:50 No.16674721 Report

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>>16674664
I know that feel man, its bretty solid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 22:05:18 No.16674811 Report

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>>16674626
Never had a problem with no Hidden Power Fairy. I can't think of a special attacking Pokemon need fairy coverage that didn't already learnt it via level-up, TM, or egg move.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 22:06:30 No.16674836 Report

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Euphoric.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 22:16:17 No.16675021 Report

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>>16674560
>have an Ambipom with technician
>check it's HP for laughs
>It's Dragon
I know that feel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 22:18:14 No.16675057 Report

Quoted By: >>16675095 >>16675221

HP is for fags

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 22:20:08 No.16675095 Report

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>>16675057
>I can't calculate it therefore it's for fags
I'm sorry you suck at Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 22:25:48 No.16675199 Report

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Useful since breeding for a specific level of power on top of type was pretty BS

It still lands most of the crucial KO's anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 22:27:17 No.16675221 Report

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>>16675057
you need hp to live

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 22:35:12 No.16675341 Report

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>no Greninja with hp fairy

Thats the only thing wrong with this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 22:56:56 No.16675737 Report

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>>16674579
>Special Attackers needed to be nerfed compared to physical attackers
>Everything ad its grandmother got Swords Dance
>Nasty Plot has always had functionally shit distribution

wot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2013 22:57:39 No.16675757 Report

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It's worthless now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 02:17:38 No.16679666 Report

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>>16674485
the fact that secret power, perhaps the most useless shit ever, hasn't been revamped into a physical hidden power, especially since they took the time to tweak HP... that shit infuriates me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 02:21:03 No.16679716 Report

Quoted By: >>16679769 >>16679809 >>16680507

Well, I mean, using Hidden Power in the first place was basically like wearing a big sign around your neck that read: "I'M A CHEATER."

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 02:24:55 No.16679769 Report

Quoted By: >>16679809 >>16679872

>>16679716
Or autistic enough to breed for it. Either way they're both horrible

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 02:25:53 No.16679783 Report

Quoted By: >>16680184

HP Fire is amazing on Greninja and practically a staple on it at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 02:27:49 No.16679809 Report

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>>16679716
>>16679769
Well, to be fair some mons don't have good coverage without it

Unown

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Unown Sun 15 Dec 2013 02:31:56 No.16679872 Report

Quoted By: >>16679930

>>16679769
I breed 6 IV Eevee with shit HP Dragon
re bred 5 IV Eevee kept getting Dark/Psychic/Bug
catch mirrion ditto till one has hp ice.
then breed perfect hp spatk speed Eevee with HP Ice.
>that's as good as my jolteon's going to get

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 02:35:03 No.16679930 Report

Quoted By: >>16680120 >>16680205

>>16679872
false, it's impossible to get perfect speed HP ice

Unown

Unown Sun 15 Dec 2013 02:44:41 No.16680120 Report

Quoted By: >>16680513

>>16679930
try again. have you breed in x/y?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 02:47:28 No.16680184 Report

Quoted By: >>16680270

>>16679783
don't you need a 30 speed IV for HP fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 02:48:32 No.16680205 Report

Quoted By: >>16680513

>>16679930
you're thinking of HP Fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 02:52:50 No.16680270 Report

Quoted By: >>16680474

>>16680184
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 02:56:08 No.16680310 Report

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>>16674654
They didn't even need to break compatibility. Just add HP type to the new Pokemon format and when old Pokemon are transferred over you could assign it using the old formula.

It would have also opened up the possibility of inherited or more randomized hidden powers instead of the HP Dragon/Dark clusterfuck everything gets when trying to breed pentaperfects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 03:05:28 No.16680474 Report

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>>16680270
fuck that then

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 03:07:15 No.16680507 Report

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>>16679716
Or you could just get lucky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 03:07:24 No.16680513 Report

Quoted By: >>16680536 >>16680602

>>16680120
>>16680205
fire is missing attack, special attack, and speed
ice is just missing speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 03:08:26 No.16680536 Report

Quoted By: >>16680607

>>16680513
Ice is even deference and attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 03:12:18 No.16680602 Report

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>>16680513
31/even/30/31/31/31
30/even/30/31/31/31
30/odd/30/31/31/31

all HP Ice without the -1 in speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 03:12:32 No.16680607 Report

Quoted By: >>16680641 >>16680646

>>16680536
well explain how my Sneasel (M) - Jolly, Inner Focus, 31\31\31\21\31\24 [1862] is HP ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 03:14:32 No.16680641 Report

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>>16680607
Because it has imperfect speed, if you have perfect speed you need an even Att and Def.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 03:14:46 No.16680646 Report

Quoted By: >>16680743

>>16680607
31/31/31/31/31/30

or

odd/odd/odd/odd/odd/even

The almost neverused spread for HP Ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 03:20:13 No.16680743 Report

Quoted By: >>16681266

>>16680646
can you link me to a detailed infographic with all these different HP combinations?
I only have one with a single combo for each stat

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 03:48:37 No.16681266 Report

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>>16680743
http://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/breeding_guide_part4#perfect_iv_combinations

here you go

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 04:00:32 No.16681482 Report

Quoted By: >>16681582

>>16674485
>>16674485
SpAtk Technician and it will be amazing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 04:08:07 No.16681582 Report

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>>16681482
So Roserade and Mr. Mime?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 11:22:55 No.16686656 Report

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>Secret Power still isn't a physical Hidden Power

the name is fucking perfect for it

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