How hard is it to breed a perfect HP Fire Froakie? I really want one, and I've bred perfects before, but finding the imperfect stats seems pretty hard to do.
Neo 4399-0021-4483
Anonymous
>>16678525 It's more difficult to verify, especially since Instacheck is dead. Otherwise, once you get some parents with the appropriate IVs, it's much the same as anything else.
The easiest way to be sure is to take them to the Battle Institute. The stat progression for 30 and 31 are the same at LV. 50, so if the IV checker doesn't say the IV is perfect, then it's 30.
Neo 4399-0021-4483
>>16678650 Ugh, that sounds like a hassle... If I can't find someone with a reject HP Fire I'll probably use Ice Beam instead.
Anonymous
>>16678710 I managed to do the heavy work with Instacheck, so I have a frog with HP Fire, but I already cleared out the spares. I can throw it in the daycare and see if I can get a passable reject to at least get you started.
Neo 4399-0021-4483
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>>16678783 Wow, now I'm starting to wish I jumped on Instacheck when people were discussing it--looks like I missed out!
Anyway, I'd really, REALLY appreciate it! Want a 31/31/31/x/31/31 Female Careful Kecleon with Recover and Foul Play?
Anonymous
I have a Clamperl with HP Fire that I don't really need (I heard HP Fire is for Ferrothorn, but that's about it). I could give it to you.
Neo 4399-0021-4483
>>16678905 It's cool, if he's already got a Froakie that would probably save quite a bit of time, I'm pretty new to doing HP's.
I appreciate the offer though man.
Anonymous
>>16678948 Okay, just wanted to help. I find HP Fire more annoying to breed than HP Ice or Grass due to needing tp verify if you have 30 on Spe and SpA.
Neo 4399-0021-4483
>>16679032 From what I can tell it seems like one of the more difficult HPs to breed. I just found where the HP psychic is--I had three boxes full of Froakies from trying different natures and spreads, and not one of them was Fire. Lots of Dragon, some Dark, Grass and Ice, but not a single Fire.
Anonymous
>>16679078 It's going to be a while, since Battle Institute won't let you take two of the same Pokemon into a test. I'm going to work on figuring out the Time Machine method, since it's probably a hell of a lot easier.
Anonymous
Oh, and are you looking for Timid or Hasty?
Anonymous
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>>16679115 >Time Machine If you can get the right inheritance spread it's way more easier than simply brute forcing it. I believe using a test breeding pair with the same gender ratio as the Pokemon you want to breed helps as well.
Neo 4399-0021-4483
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>>16679133 I'd prefer Hasty, but you're doing a lot of work as it is, if it isn't Hasty it's only one generation away from it anyway!
Anonymous
Alright, doing the Time Machine with some Wonder Trash right now. It turns out I have some female Froakies with either 30 SpA or Spe, but none with both. I'll see if I can get the destiny knot to cooperate.
Neo 4399-0021-4483
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>>16679391 You're literally doing Gods work. I feel so foolish having spent so much time trying to breed perfect Froakies, and then realizing I need an "imperfect one" to get one of the moves I so desperately need.
IGN: Parham 2836-1058-9751
>>16679391 If, by the off chance, you get more than one, I'll swap you a 5IV timid magic guard abra for one.
Anonymous
>>16679584 I actually do really like Alakazam, so I'll be sure to get you one.
Neo 4399-0021-4483
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>>16679734 I also have 4(+)IV Litwicks, Venepedes, Shroomish, Whoopers, a few 3 IV Dittos, Swinubs, Dratinis, Slowpokes, and Shroomish if you'd rather those than the Kecleon as well.
IGN: Parham 2836-1058-9751
>>16678525 >Mfw I have a shiny HP fire Froakie >Mfw I have no face. Anonymous
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>>16679819 I imagine your face looks a lot like Instacheck.
Neo 4399-0021-4483
Out of curiousity, is it still possible to clone Pokemon?
Anonymous
>>16680056 GTS glitch is patched
Locally is still working.
Neo 4399-0021-4483
Anonymous
Alright, if I did this correctly, I've got a Hasty female 8-9/16/31/30/31/30.
IGN: Parham 2836-1058-9751
>>16680056 Someone explain how cloning works/worked?
IGN: Parham 2836-1058-9751
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>>16680138 cool. keep it up, man.
Neo 4399-0021-4483
Anonymous
>>16680138 Well, fuck, I just noticed it's Torrent.
Neo 4399-0021-4483
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>>16680261 Torrent drives me nuts, along with the fact that 90% of all Froakies are Male.
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
Well, this one's Torrent also, but that doesn't matter because it's male. 6-7/16/31/30/31/30. Unfortunately it's also Timid.
Neo 4399-0021-4483
>>16680761 Kickass, I'll add you in just a moment!
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
>>16680778 Alright, I'm online. You ready?
IGN: Parham 2836-1058-9751
>>16680761 Cool. Keep it up, man. Remember that you can trade these off and get some nice pokemon on WFG.
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
>>16680866 I imagine so. This has been a bitch so far.
IGN: Parham 2836-1058-9751
>>16680875 you shoulda posted your FC earlier. hatch powers bruh.
Neo 4399-0021-4483
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>>16680853 Thank you! I'm one step closer to attaining what I've been abusing on Showdown for a long time.
You made my night man, I really do appreciate it.
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
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>>16680866 Oh, and please feel welcome to recheck the IVs. I'll be breeding a few more and if I messed up that one, I'll be happy to give you another.
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
>>16680891 Oh, I've already got Hatch 3, and since you hatch one at a time per reset, it's always replenished.
IGN: Parham 2836-1058-9751
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>>16680952 Oops, haven't added you yet. I'm doing it right now. Gimme a sec.
IGN: Parham 2836-1058-9751
>>16680952 Added. Hit me up for your abra, whenever the froakie is ready.
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
>>16680984 Alright, I've got a Timid Protean 31/28/31/30/31/30. That's actually HP Fire right there.
IGN: Parham 2836-1058-9751
>>16681323 Swell. Buzz me with a trade request whenever you're ready.
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
>>16681345 It says you're in a trade, it won't let me request.
IGN: Parham 2836-1058-9751
>>16681370 Yup, I just had someone help me evolve my rhyperior.
Thanks a bunch for the froakie, man. Let me know if the IVs are marked incorrectly, I'll give you another.
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
>>16681397 Everything checks out on my end, thanks. It's all correct with the frog, right?
Kävik- 2836-0098-3303 Fighting: Throh, Machoke, Breloom
Kävik- 2836-0098-3303 Fighting: Throh, Machoke, Breloom Sun 15 Dec 2013 04:01:08 No. 16681491 Report Hate to sound like a noob, but what is so good about HP Fire Froakie
IGN: Parham 2836-1058-9751
>>16681468 Probably. As long as it's HP is fire I don't mind.
Thanks a bunch. What IVs does it need for HP fire, btw?
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
>>16681491 Type coverage. Also, thanks to Protean, it can suddenly become resistant to Bug, Fairy, Fire, Grass, Ice, and Steel.
>>16681501 It needs an uneven HP, even Atk, uneven Def, even SpA, uneven SpD, and even Spe. So the highest possible spread for HP fire is 31/30/31/30/31/30, so the 28 Atk isn't too far off.
IGN: Parham 2836-1058-9751
>>16681545 Holy shit, that's pretty much a hexaperfect.
Waffle 5370-1445-6499
>>16681545 Shit, if you've got the golden goose of HP Fire Froakies, I'd gladly offer you something for a good one to breed my own.
Is there anything you need in particular?
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
>>16681555 Yup. The frog I'm using doesn't have any Physical attacks, and only 16 Atk, which still qualifies it, so it's not as much of a pain as you might think. Even if you get the perfect spread from the Destiny Knot, you still get a 50/50 chance of the Atk stat turning up correctly. For a total Special set Greninja, the best spread would actually be 31/0/31/30/31/30, in case of Swagger.
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
>>16681565 What I really need for this process is a female Protean Froakie with 31/x/31/30/31/30, then I could brute force it instead of doing this time machine business.
Neo 4399-0021-4483
>>16681603 So I'm trying to get a Hasty natured Greninja so I can run a harder hitting U-Turn on a Special set, is there is Psypoke the fastest way to check IVs through Battle Institute?
I'm genuinely interested in this, I want to get the perfect frog (or close to it!) before Bank.
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
>>16681565 I'll go ahead and plug some more eggs to try and get you one, but I can't think of anything I really need.
Waffle 5370-1445-6499
>>16681689 I've got 5IV Lapras with Freeze Dry and 5IV Squirtle with Water Spout and Aura Sphere.
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
>>16681681 I've been using "MetalKid's" IV calculator and the IV checker in Kiloude, essentially. The only faster way would've been Instacheck.
Kävik- 2836-0098-3303 Fighting: Throh, Machoke, Breloom
Kävik- 2836-0098-3303 Fighting: Throh, Machoke, Breloom Sun 15 Dec 2013 04:18:39 No. 16681768 Report One more question
Waffle 5370-1445-6499
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>>16681768 Hasty for U-Turn, Timid for everything else.
Anonymous
>>16681659 Sorry to intrude, but what do you mean by "brute force it"? Just keep breeding until you get it?
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
>>16681930 Basically. Once you have both parents with desirable IV spreads, you just generate as many eggs as possible and a certain percentage of them are statistically likely to match your goal. The Time Machine setup is easier to manipulate if you have a wide selection of partial matches, but takes longer.
Anonymous
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In a related topic, does anybody have a 30 SpA 30 Speed pokemon for trade?
Anonymous
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>>16681966 Thank you. I understand the time machine method myself, but I haven't used it yet since I haven't been playing, but yeah, you need at least 3-4 parents for it.
Neo 4399-0021-4483
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>>16681748 Gotcha.
>That feel when you breed your FIRST batch of Froakies and one of them has HP FIRE ITS HAPPENING Marcus 4742-6094-5317
>>16681739 Destiny Knot keeps choosing relevant IVs to be the random. In about 15 minutes I've got to get to bed, but I'll keep trying.
Waffle 5370-1445-6499
>>16682255 It's all good, if you can't get it, don't worry about it.
If it's all right, I'll just add you and you can send a trade whenever.
Is there any BP item you might want as well, I can attach it to a 5IV poke.
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
>>16682291 I've got a Kangaskhan, so BP is pretty easy to get. You wouldn't have an Unburden Swirlix, would you?
Waffle 5370-1445-6499
>>16682314 I don't have one with good IV's on me, but I'll see what I can do.
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
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>>16682332 I have the Dittos to breed IVs, just no actual Swirlix.
Marcus 4742-6094-5317
>>16682332 I'm sorry, I'm going to have to just add you tonight and get back to this tomorrow. Don't worry though, I'm pathologically incapable of not helping now.
Waffle 5370-1445-6499
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>>16682661 Yeah, I scoured the GTS and traded for 4 Lvl. 30 Swirlixes, all Sweet Veil.
I'mma get you this Swirlix,
