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Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 22:48:26 No.16695913 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16695978 >>16696268 >>16697545 >>16698866 >>16699170

Slowpoke here, but
>Meteor Mash nerfed to 90 BP
Okay now I'm mad. It's a fucking COMET-SHATTERING PUNCH. HOW DID IT GET NERFED. WHY DID IT GET NERFED. Oh yeah I bet I know, it's because of those fairies, right? Can't have things hitting the Mary Sue type too hard, even if one of those things is a super computer that fell from grace long ago.

Let's have a Metagross thread so we can mourn another loss.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 22:52:25 No.16695978 Report

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>>16695913
Why the hell does Gamefreak hate Metagross so much? I hope he gets a Mega to make up all this nerfing

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 22:53:23 No.16695994 Report

Quoted By: >>16696013 >>16696075

>"With four linked brains, it's more intelligent than a supercomputer, and it uses calculations to analyze foes."
>slow
>doesn't get Analytic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 22:55:03 No.16696013 Report

Quoted By: >>16697205

>>16695994
Meh, immunity to Intimidate is nice for a physical attacker, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 22:58:03 No.16696075 Report

Quoted By: >>16696308

>>16695994
Yeah, while fucking Starmie has it and it can't even use it since it's so fast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 23:00:23 No.16696135 Report

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Meteor Mash got nerfed? What bullshit.
Also, by bizarre coincidence, I just found a second shiny Metang in the safari. Thanks, thread.

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3582-9696-9666 Sun 15 Dec 2013 23:06:13 No.16696268 Report

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>>16695913
This is what Metagross needs
Mega Metagross
Steel/Flying
80/185/130/75/120/110
Ability: Motor Drive

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 23:07:51 No.16696308 Report

Quoted By: >>16699523

>>16696075
Actually there is a quirk with Analytic where it activates when you attack someone on a switch. Given how easily Starmie can force switches that is how people tend to use Analytic on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2013 23:49:44 No.16697205 Report

Quoted By: >>16698528

>>16696013
Yeah, Clear Body comes in handy, but having 2 other good abilities would be nice to add some variety. Off the top of my head, Analytic, Download, Iron Fist, and Levitate would all make sense mechanically and fluff-wise.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 00:07:24 No.16697545 Report

Quoted By: >>16698673

>>16695913
>Mary Sue type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 00:55:41 No.16698479 Report

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You want Metagross to be good? Play doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 00:58:11 No.16698528 Report

Quoted By: >>16698661

>>16697205

How would levitate make sense? His heavy ass is always slamming on the ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:00:01 No.16698564 Report

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can someone tell me WHY all these moves got nerfed? not just meteor mash. have they explained why

Lightning Flash

Lightning Flash Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:01:13 No.16698591 Report

Quoted By: >>16698707

I think it's accuracy got buffed though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:03:40 No.16698661 Report

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>>16698528
>Magnet Rise

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:04:12 No.16698673 Report

Quoted By: >>16698888 >>16703508

>>16697545
>looks at these bad ass motherfuckers, fucken dangerous as shit, one look and you shit your pants
>that some nice damage you got there fgt, too bad i, garchomp, outdamages all that stupid shit with just outrage

>yeah but we cant do jackshit to these girls, because the power of pink ribbons and shit forbids us from harming them
>motherfucker

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:05:41 No.16698707 Report

Quoted By: >>16698846 >>16698970 >>16699061

>>16698591
If it was brought to 100 it would be a fair trade. But no. It will still miss 3+ times consecutively against shit with no evasion modifiers.

I'm doing my damnedest to use Metagross still. Weakness Policy couples nicely with his shitty new weaknesses, and Assault Vest is a good option for him as well. Steel is a better attack type than it's ever been, too, so he hasn't been doing all that bad, but he's not the best at anything he does.

Clear Body Metagross @ Weakness Policy
Adamant 252 HP 252 Attack 4 Speed
Meteor Mash
Bullet Punch
Earthquake / Hammer Arm
Pursuit / Zen Headbutt / Hammer Arm

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:13:30 No.16698846 Report

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>>16698707
join us and use the superior robot

rotom-w

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:14:29 No.16698866 Report

Quoted By: >>16699360

>>16695913
>only interesting pseudo in the whole game
>GF goes out of their way to shit on him with every new installment

It fucking hurts to live.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:15:14 No.16698888 Report

Quoted By: >>16698930

>>16698673
>dragonite
>badass
>metagross + ttar
>dragons

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:17:12 No.16698930 Report

Quoted By: >>16698952

>>16698888
name one gen 1 pokemon that looks badass and isnt tauros

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:18:23 No.16698952 Report

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>>16698930

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:18:54 No.16698968 Report

Quoted By: >>16698995 >>16699042

but how was meteor mash nerfed? it only has 10 less power, but gained perfect accuracy, its still STAB for gross

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:19:01 No.16698970 Report

Quoted By: >>16699028

>>16698707
Seriously, they could have at least given it an accuracy buff.

NO OTHER FUCKING POKEMON LEARNS IT. AND METAGROSS IS ALREADY MEH AT BEST COMPARED TO THE OTHER PSEUDOS.

Does Gamefreak just fucking hate Metagross or something? Jesus Christ.

I'll just wait for it to drop to UU where it can actually do something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:20:16 No.16698995 Report

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>>16698968
>perfect accuracy

Uh no, it lost 10 bp and gained 5 accuracy, it still missed 10% of the time

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:22:13 No.16699028 Report

Quoted By: >>16699050

>>16698970
clefairy learns meteor mash and jirachi has it too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:22:52 No.16699042 Report

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>>16698968
>but gained perfect accuracy

It doesn't, it's at base 90 instead of 85 now.

Which ends up not being a buff much at all since you still miss lol 10%=100%

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:23:09 No.16699050 Report

Quoted By: >>16699070

>>16699028
New question.
Why doesn't Registeel learn it? And why doesn't he just learn Cosmic Power instead of Amnesia and Iron Defense simultaneously?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:23:51 No.16699061 Report

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>>16698707
I have the same set (earthquake/headbutt) but with assault vest and it does very well. Bullet punch is enough to take down almost any m-mawile on mindgames alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:24:16 No.16699070 Report

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>>16699050
Because Gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:25:59 No.16699100 Report

Quoted By: >>16699118

how much power meteor mash had before? 120? i never used him, and searching now it says 90/90 in every site

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:26:37 No.16699118 Report

Quoted By: >>16699168

>>16699100
Used to be 100/85.

Lost 10% of its power for a negligible change in accuracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:29:32 No.16699168 Report

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>>16699118
damn that sucks, they should have given it 100% accuracy and 50% for raising attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:29:36 No.16699170 Report

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>>16695913
>Clefable learns Meteor Mash

the attack boost thing does help her facade setup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:39:38 No.16699360 Report

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>>16698866
It's because he's not draconic/reptilian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:47:16 No.16699523 Report

Quoted By: >>16699750

>>16696308
That's fucking neato. A Hydro Pump double life orb is a scary thought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:57:51 No.16699750 Report

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>>16699523
252 SpA Life Orb Analytic Starmie Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Venusaur: 126-149 (34.6 - 40.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

So on the switch it'll do a bit and if you carry a Psychic move, it's light's out for Veiny. There is also a chance you'll hit 4% higher with a Modest nature, so might as well be the best in that speed tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 05:00:45 No.16703508 Report

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>>16698673
They can all learn moves to counter Fairy, I'm sure. I sometimes forget that Slowbro can know Flamethrower.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 05:12:37 No.16703742 Report

Quoted By: >>16703898

>metagross was designed to be a peacekeeper between the pseudos, preventing salamence and ttar from being too overused in gen lll
>gets completely shattered by the new pseudo that was designed to be an extremely game changing pokemon, as well as a new 600 fire/steel type that shits all over metagross.
>gen V nerfs explosion and adds weather that only hurts metagross more
>since doubles is the official vormat, metagross gets lots of use still and GF still thinks its overpowered as a result
>nerfs it even harder by removing its two key resistences and lowers meteor mash's usability

>tfw metagross is the only pokemon to have been directly nerfed ever since its introduction for three gens straight
>tfw metagross is the most nerfed pokemon of all time
>tfw metagross was the only psedo designed to keep the meta in check rather than breaking it (ie. garchomp, salamence, tyranitar in gen ll)
>tfw GF hates metagross

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 05:19:41 No.16703898 Report

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>>16703742
I also forgot to mention how metagros hasnt received a single buff since its introduction. Not a single buff at all.

Holy shit gamefreak HATES metagross.

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