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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 19:59:08 No.16712205 View View Reply Original Report

ITT: Your bros that got screwed over hard by Gen 6.

>weather nerfed
>its special attacks nerfed
>rapid spin nerfed
>all the new spinblockers either have Ghost-type priority or are part-Grass

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:00:53 No.16712232 Report

Quoted By: >>16712244 >>16712585

It's okay, Dark was too strong anyways. ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:01:28 No.16712240 Report

Quoted By: >>16712314

>all the new spinblockers either have Ghost-type priority or are part-Grass
>not running bulky Starmie
>not running ice beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:01:55 No.16712244 Report

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>>16712232
Still good

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:02:40 No.16712255 Report

Quoted By: >>16712276 >>16712562 >>16714934

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:04:08 No.16712276 Report

Quoted By: >>16712290 >>16712344

>>16712255
Scrafty is still amazing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:04:23 No.16712280 Report

Quoted By: >>16712330

>>16712205
>>rapid spin nerfed

Explain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:05:35 No.16712290 Report

Quoted By: >>16712375

>>16712276
Except it was always shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:07:31 No.16712314 Report

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>>16712240

Starmie needs Life Orb, maximum Special Attack investment and an Analytic boost to defeat Trevenant and Gourgeist. If it goes bulky, it will lose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:08:47 No.16712330 Report

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>>16712280

The buff to Defog means that Rapid Spin isn't as important as it used to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:09:08 No.16712338 Report

Quoted By: >>16712361 >>16712494

>Politoed
Weather got nerfed, and Rain is the one that suffers the most.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:09:35 No.16712344 Report

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>>16712276
scrafty still has a place as a fake out user but you're kidding yourself if you don't think a new 4x weakness isn't a big nerf

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:10:29 No.16712361 Report

Quoted By: >>16712382 >>16712385 >>16712398

>>16712338
Politoed can eat a billion dicks. It's ugly as shit, didn't need to exist in the first place and is essentially a summery of everything that was wrong with gen 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:10:48 No.16712366 Report

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I have a Timid/Natural Cure Starmie with Life Orb but really I just use it as a dragon slayer (ice beam). It doesn't hold up against much else. Or maybe I'm just bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:11:17 No.16712375 Report

Quoted By: >>16712421

>>16712290
Sounds like someone has never actually used a Scrafty.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:12:00 No.16712382 Report

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>>16712361
Sounds like someone's salty from the Weather Wars of Gen 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:12:02 No.16712385 Report

Quoted By: >>16712421

>>16712361
Politoed from Gen 2 though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:12:41 No.16712398 Report

Quoted By: >>16712421

>>16712361
Its Winter here, can't wait for it to be summery out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:14:21 No.16712421 Report

Quoted By: >>16712432 >>16712569

>>16712375
It's a retard magnet so I'd rather not.
>>16712385
The piece of shit never even needed to exist. poliwrath was a perfectly acceptable end to that line.
>>16712398
The fuck are you even trying to say?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:15:29 No.16712432 Report

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>>16712421
Genwunner detected.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:18:21 No.16712476 Report

Quoted By: >>16712553

Metagross

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:19:55 No.16712494 Report

Quoted By: >>16712607

>>16712338

It did get some buffs on simulators, though. Drizzle + Swift Swim is now allowed and sun teams have nearly vanished.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:20:25 No.16712506 Report

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>Gengar and Stoutland
Well I guess everything turned out okay in the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:22:40 No.16712553 Report

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>>16712476
Yeah, this guy
Both of my favorite Pseudos got shafted hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:23:01 No.16712562 Report

Quoted By: >>16714951

>>16712255
whoa wat pokeman is that? i havent played since red and blue version. is there a lot of new pokemans out?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:23:13 No.16712569 Report

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>>16712421
Wow, what a fag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:24:12 No.16712585 Report

Quoted By:

>>16712232
Don't worry, I'm always here for you Sazan-kun~

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:25:32 No.16712605 Report

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Sandslash had a decent niche as a sand team rapid spinner. Now I just use him to Counter physical sweepers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:25:38 No.16712607 Report

Quoted By: >>16712637

>>16712494
I play triples and Tyranitar/Megazard Y are on every other team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:27:12 No.16712637 Report

Quoted By: >>16713035

>>16712607

I can't help you with Charizard, but Politoed can defeat Tyranitar with Rain Dance (no, seriously) or Choice Specs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 20:48:06 No.16713035 Report

Quoted By: >>16716382

>>16712637
you have to switch in politoed though correct? if its the first turn there will be sand up because tyranitar is slower than politoed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 22:28:42 No.16714901 Report

Quoted By: >>16715291 >>16715344 >>16715846

All my bug bros. Fuck fairy type.
3 types get hit SE
7 types get hit NVE
Only 8 types are hit neutral.

I run a bug mono, always have. Always will. Bug should have been at least neutral on fairy fucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 22:30:42 No.16714934 Report

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>>16712255
This. The 4x weakness is incredibly annoying. I also find it harder to go for a Bulk Up set up set if critical hits happen more often (thus bypassing your defense buffs more often)

Talonflame existing doesn't help either

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 22:31:27 No.16714951 Report

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>>16712562
Its a Scrafty. Dark/Fighting. And there are about
570 New ones

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 22:35:11 No.16715025 Report

Quoted By: >>16715121

>Muh mach 2 flight being canon
>Before gen 6 had pathetic speed, now still only 101 or so
>Talonflame gets gale wings for fuck all reason
>No extremespeed
>Rain nerf renders it's workable special movepool null and void

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 22:40:03 No.16715121 Report

Quoted By: >>16717240

>>16715025
>2nd favorite pokemon
>barely viable IN-GAME unless tedious hand-holding
it pains

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 22:44:55 No.16715214 Report

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Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 22:47:36 No.16715259 Report

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>All these kids salty over the loss of free perma-weather
How's it feel that assface frog and furslut fox are a waste of your time now?
Weather rocks > instaweather

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 22:49:20 No.16715291 Report

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>>16714901
So what? You don't run a single Bug/Steel or Bug/Poison?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 22:52:46 No.16715344 Report

Quoted By: >>16715795

>>16714901

If anything, Talonflame craps harder on mono bug than fairies do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 23:17:55 No.16715795 Report

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>>16715344

Everytime I want to use my Bugs I have to carry a Talonflame counter. It's really annoying sometimes.

thtguy1 !Fy5fuPZNcs

thtguy1 !Fy5fuPZNcs Mon 16 Dec 2013 23:21:18 No.16715846 Report

Quoted By: >>16716174

>>16714901
If they ever change the resistances again, Ice should be resistant to water, and fairy should not resist bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 23:40:01 No.16716174 Report

Quoted By: >>16716202

>>16715846
Fairy should be weak to bugs.
It's hard being a Bug Catcher.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 23:41:38 No.16716202 Report

Quoted By: >>16716441

>>16716174

>bugs
>buffed
>Pokemon

Dream harder

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 23:44:36 No.16716245 Report

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Good night, sweet prince.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 23:45:20 No.16716267 Report

Quoted By: >>16717251

>Another weakness
>No buffs unless you count Knock Off

t-thanks...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 23:51:32 No.16716382 Report

Quoted By:

>>16713035
>Rain Dance (no, seriously)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 23:52:35 No.16716406 Report

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Most of my favourites kind of work in their own tiers.
Articuno is a lost cause for the most part, but freeze dry and snow cloak/brightpowder works, somewhat, but the poor thing got horribly nerfed in gen2 and still has't recovered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2013 23:54:21 No.16716441 Report

Quoted By:

>>16716202
They seem like they should be the staples of the series, though.

I mean, the idea for trading Pokemon came from , I believe it was Satoshi Tajiri, watching a bug crawl across a link cable.
That, and the whole idea of Pokemon came from bug collecting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 00:39:35 No.16717240 Report

Quoted By:

>>16715121
Mine must have good IV/EVs or something because Its going strong

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 00:40:25 No.16717251 Report

Quoted By:

>>16716267
Fucker was the broest in black. Shame he's hard to use competitively.

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