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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:36:56 No.16731181 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16731227 >>16732385 >>16732987 >>16733150

>everyone talking about how great the metagame is
>it's all HO garbage
>even more than bw
>even more cookie cutter than ever
>even more broken shit that will stay ou for a longass time because the five stooges consistently win with it
Great, even the multiplayer is shit. As if this rushed excuse of a game needed to be shit in every possible aspect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:38:28 No.16731196 Report

Quoted By: >>16732325

if you just play against random people in PSS with EV trained pokemon and proper natures, you'll probably win 90% of the matches anyway. Fuck the metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:41:33 No.16731227 Report

Quoted By: >>16731241 >>16731268 >>16731291 >>16731430 >>16732792

>>16731181
>not playing Doubles

Its like you enjoy garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:42:32 No.16731241 Report

Quoted By: >>16731268 >>16731430

>>16731227
this
fucking this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:44:25 No.16731266 Report

Quoted By: >>16731298

>every team on showdown is HO with kangaskhan/lucario
This is the best example of a failed metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:44:37 No.16731268 Report

Quoted By: >>16731275 >>16731281 >>16733379

>>16731227
>>16731241

>playing a metagame that revolves around guessing if the opponent will use Protect or not

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:45:19 No.16731275 Report

Quoted By: >>16731313

>>16731268
>playing a metagame that revolves around guessing if the opponent will switch out or not

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:45:40 No.16731281 Report

Quoted By: >>16731313

>>16731268
>oversimplifying
>implying prediction doesn't play am equal, if not more important, role in singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:46:42 No.16731291 Report

Quoted By: >>16731320 >>16731332 >>16731377 >>16731430 >>16731454

>>16731227
I have no idea how to play Doubles, where's a good place to go to get started?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:46:48 No.16731293 Report

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>hurr durr singles are shit
>hurr durr doubles are shit

maybe you should get good OP´, i think the problem is you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:47:06 No.16731298 Report

Quoted By: >>16731896

>>16731266

Both of those will be banned by the end of January, trust me on it. Kang is already in the process of being quickbanned, and Lucario's name is being mentioned.

The only way I'll be wrong is if they choose to ban Deoxys-S and Genesect first, and it takes them until the end of January to suspect/pass both of those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:48:42 No.16731313 Report

Quoted By: >>16731327

>>16731275
>>16731281

Switching doesn't cost a moveset on every one of my Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:49:18 No.16731320 Report

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>>16731291
Check out VGC replays if you're interested in the official Nintendo format. Smogon and other sites do analyses for Doubles and VGC as well, so checking out those can be helpful.

I slapped together a team on Showdown from Smogon sets and iterated from there as I practiced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:49:44 No.16731327 Report

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>>16731313

moveslot*

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:49:48 No.16731329 Report

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Smogon will fix the broken metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:49:56 No.16731332 Report

Quoted By: >>16731384 >>16731419 >>16731435

>>16731291

nobody knows how to play doubles
it's too complicated that's why everyone plays singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:51:48 No.16731356 Report

Quoted By: >>16731402

With proper support, pokemons that are shit in singles can become very good at doubles, therefore making more ground for more pokemon to be used.
singles is just about who is more powerful and who uses the most overpowered pokemon, you mentioned it OP,

cookie cutter sets=singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:52:59 No.16731377 Report

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>>16731291
http://www.smogon.com/bw/articles/double_battles
Fifth gen, but the general summary is to have an idea for what kind of team you want and make changes as you go. I'd say look at different abilities. Something that requires prediction in singles, such as storm drain, can be used more efficiently and reliably in doubles if partnered correctly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:53:25 No.16731384 Report

Quoted By: >>16731435 >>16732451

>>16731332
People who plays singles thinks doubles is too complicated
This is explains why singles is shit and doubles is king

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:53:26 No.16731385 Report

Quoted By: >>16731409

What is HO?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:54:32 No.16731402 Report

Quoted By: >>16733319

>>16731356
replace singles/doubles in this whole post and the point still stands

every ruleset has overpowered pokemon and cookie cutter sets because that's how you win, don't pretend doubles is some holy land of creativity, because it's not

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:55:15 No.16731409 Report

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>>16731385
hypa offense

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:55:52 No.16731419 Report

Quoted By: >>16731433 >>16731459 >>16731464 >>16731476 >>16732576 >>16733319 >>16733524 >>16734308 >>16734405

>>16731332
top kek

but being serious for a minute is this why nobody plays triple or rotation? i have never seen anyone play those competitively

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:57:12 No.16731430 Report

Quoted By: >>16731480 >>16731494 >>16731503

>>16731241
>>16731227
Doubles is in the same fucking state.

Mega Khan, Rotom W, Talonflame, Meowstick, Garchomp, Filler.

That's all you fucking see. I hate VGC 14.

>>16731291
Check NuggetBridge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:57:21 No.16731433 Report

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>>16731419
because stealth rocks are useless in rotation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:57:32 No.16731435 Report

Quoted By: >>16731477 >>16731478

>>16731332
>>16731384
doubles is not complicated at all though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:58:35 No.16731454 Report

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>>16731291

Nugget Bridge is the best resource for VGC out there. If you don't care about going to live events, Smogon also has a doubles metagame with a different banlist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:58:56 No.16731459 Report

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>>16731419
from my limited experience on those in rated battle spot, rotation battle is coin flip central and triples is actually pretty fun but I guess people prefer doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:59:08 No.16731464 Report

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>>16731419

rotation is glorified rock paper scissors

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:59:49 No.16731476 Report

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>>16731419
Because they are fucking boring and extremely gimmicky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:59:56 No.16731477 Report

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>>16731435
Exactly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:59:58 No.16731478 Report

Quoted By: >>16731493 >>16731518

>>16731435
I agree that it isn't that complicated once you've got the gist of it.
But it's no doubt it require more strategy than singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 18:59:59 No.16731480 Report

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>>16731430

Yeah, but unlike in singles you can easily pick them apart with superior sets

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:00:57 No.16731493 Report

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>>16731478

>doubles players actually believe thisc

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:00:57 No.16731494 Report

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>>16731430
Yeah, the VGC 14 rules aren't great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:01:39 No.16731503 Report

Quoted By: >>16733485

>>16731430

> implying that the metagame won't shift as counters are found for those Pokemon

Although yeah, VGC is kind of in a weird state right now. Not having access to the Icy Wind/Tailwind tutors and Trick Room being pretty bad in general this gen means that there aren't a whole lot of options for Speed control in the meta at the moment, which means fast and bulky mons like MegaKhan or Garchomp are getting the spotlight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:02:48 No.16731518 Report

Quoted By: >>16731577

>>16731478
>But it's no doubt it require more strategy than singles
not really, I find the longer length and prediction of 6v6 singles much more strategic than doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:07:04 No.16731577 Report

Quoted By: >>16731640 >>16731646

>>16731518
i certainly hope you're comparing 6v6 singles to 6v6 doubles, because if not, then you're obviously stupid.
if you are, good job on being stupid regardless, how does having 4 pokemon on the field being as easy or easier than 2 pokemon on the field?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:11:27 No.16731640 Report

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>>16731577
I'm comparing it to 4v4
>how does having 4 pokemon on the field being as easy or easier than 2 pokemon on the field?
say what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:12:01 No.16731646 Report

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>>16731577
The fuck are you trying to say?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:28:57 No.16731896 Report

Quoted By: >>16732638

>>16731298
>Both of those will be banned by the end of January
>implying m-kang won't be dropped out of the quickban process because the judenrat loves it
>implying m-lucario won't be banned instead because it's sort of a check to m-kang

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:34:40 No.16731981 Report

Quoted By: >>16732208

How about Rotation? Entry hazards are pretty bad in that enviromnment too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:35:56 No.16732001 Report

Quoted By: >>16732033

>it's all HO
>even more than bw
except it's not. Did you play BW? Have you played XY?
>even more broken shit that will stay ou for a longass time because the five stooges consistently win with it
>m-m-muh conspiracy theories

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:38:00 No.16732033 Report

Quoted By: >>16732083 >>16732157

>>16732001
>Did you play BW? Have you played XY?
Yes I did. Even back in the Drizzleswim days. Voted in it too. Stall was more viable even then than this shitfest of HO bullshit.

Have YOU played XY? It's all Kangs and Lucarios and Genesect and not one wall except shaky checks to Kang WHAT A SURPRISE as far as the eye can see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:40:33 No.16732080 Report

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Just wait for Mega Kangaskhan, Genesect, all formes of Deoxys and maybe Mega Lucario to get banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:40:38 No.16732083 Report

Quoted By: >>16732231 >>16732297

>>16732033
Kang is wrecking shit at the moment but bulky offense and stall are both hella viable. Once Kang and Gene go it'll only shift even further in that direction. You can't judge an entire meta based on about five fucking weeks of play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:45:37 No.16732157 Report

Quoted By: >>16732182

>>16732033
Kanga is fundamentally broken as shit with literally only 1 thing in the game that can consistently hard counter it, sabeleye and that's under the assumption that your will o wisp hits.

Kanga is going to be banned mega cario is probably going to be banned, and genesect is sort of iffy but it's entirely possible.

Just give it some fucking time and it'll be like gen 5 weatherless, but with more talonflameswhich hopefully people will keep using brave bird instead of going itemless and using bulk up, wow, and acrobatics so they just keep killing themselves and aegislashes which hopefully people will keep using the swords dance set instead of the mixed attacking autotomize/weakness policy set so they're far easier to kill

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:47:09 No.16732182 Report

Quoted By: >>16732210 >>16732211

>>16732157
>Itemless Talonflame
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:49:02 No.16732208 Report

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>>16731981
I've done rotations a lot lately, and there was only one battle out of fifty where someone was dumb enough to use an entry hazard. Granted, it was free battle though PSS, but why would anyone waste a turn to set up a hazard that'll only hurt one mon once?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:49:06 No.16732210 Report

Quoted By: >>16732224

>>16732182
>not using priority 110 move with no recoil

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:49:07 No.16732211 Report

Quoted By: >>16732224

>>16732182
>killing yourself by mindlessly spamming bravebird instead of keeping roughly the same damage but also gaining some staying power
You are why talonflame is simultaneously really good but only used by fucking retards

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:49:45 No.16732224 Report

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>>16732211
>>16732210
>itemless Talonflame

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:49:59 No.16732231 Report

Quoted By: >>16732316

>>16732083
More people were using stall after drizzleswim was banned. It was more viable EVEN WITH MORE BROKEN SHIT around. Stall is dead. Hell, "bulky offence" isn't exactly bulky when everything is being killed in two hits on both sides.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:50:33 No.16732241 Report

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Megas killed stall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:51:36 No.16732251 Report

Quoted By: >>16732263 >>16732275 >>16732696

this thread is why I only play UU and below

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:52:18 No.16732263 Report

Quoted By: >>16732280 >>16732299

>>16732251
>yfw UU will be more HO shit with all the weather and Salamence dropping down

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:53:06 No.16732274 Report

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>Trying to sweep with Talonflame
Holy fuck his ability basically cries "Please, use me as a revenge killer"
If you run item-less Flame over something like Band Brave Bird you are legitimately retarded and you are probably no higher than 1500

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:53:06 No.16732275 Report

Quoted By: >>16732300

>>16732251
so ebin :^)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:53:17 No.16732280 Report

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>>16732263
there's always NU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:54:11 No.16732297 Report

Quoted By: >>16732313 >>16732316

>>16732083
>stall
>viable
I'm sorry.. I just... phhfhffffhfffffAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BAAAHAHAHAHAHA OH GOD AHAHAHAHA
EEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEE OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
AAAA HAAAH AAAAH HAAAH HAAAAAAAAAA
Ehehehe..... oooooohhhhhh shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:54:14 No.16732299 Report

Quoted By: >>16732330

>>16732263
>Salamence
what's gonna kill him? The presence of fairies hasn't made scarfmence less horrifying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:54:15 No.16732300 Report

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>>16732275
>average OU smogonfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:55:17 No.16732313 Report

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>>16732297
stall is viable outside of OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:55:25 No.16732316 Report

Quoted By: >>16732354

>>16732231
With balk Megas on the rise once Kanga and Gene are banned, new items like Assault Vest and the speed tiers shifting, the special nerf and more, stall is far from dead. It'll only be even more viable once things settle and tiers are put in place.

>>16732297
Epic response Anon, you showed everyone :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:56:16 No.16732325 Report

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>>16731196
Yeah, that sounds fun. I've had enough of battling Metwo, a second Mewtwo, Lucario, Blaziken, Charizard (X/Y), and a 6th gen starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:56:25 No.16732330 Report

Quoted By: >>16732349

>>16732299
Scarfmence is shit because you have three moves that common shit can set up on blithely. DDMence gets outclassed by Zard-X and Dragonite. If anything it'll only cling onto the bottom of OU like Haxorus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:57:15 No.16732349 Report

Quoted By: >>16732392 >>16732396 >>16732414 >>16732896

>>16732330
>Charizard outclassing anything
Charizard is shit m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:57:34 No.16732354 Report

Quoted By: >>16732366 >>16734302

>>16732316
>once Kanga and Gene are banned
>implyingimplications.png.jpg.tif.bmp.wav.avi.exe

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:58:20 No.16732366 Report

Quoted By: >>16732390

>>16732354
It's going to happen. Kanga is broken as shit and there is no way she will not be banned, Gene will go the same way shortly after or maybe before, I ain't a psychic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:59:11 No.16732385 Report

Quoted By: >>16732396

>>16731181

oh please. did you even play early b/w? it was absolute fucking hell. at least m-gengar got banned early. in early b/w it took a needlessly long time to even get the swift swim ban. as someone who stopped competitive in gen 5 and came back for 6, it's already shaping up to be more balanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:59:26 No.16732390 Report

Quoted By: >>16732404

>>16732366
>there is no way she will not be banned
I think you're far overestimating how the OU Judenrat does things m80.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:59:31 No.16732392 Report

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>>16732349
Both mega zards are actually very good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:59:49 No.16732396 Report

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>>16732349
You're a tool.

Zard x and y are both pretty viable, y perhaps a bit more so but x makes for a really powerful dd sweeper.

>>16732385
dis nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:00:21 No.16732404 Report

Quoted By: >>16732432

>>16732390
Okay, but I'm not, and you're wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:01:03 No.16732414 Report

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>>16732349
Fire/Dragon is superb typing
Charizard Y outclasses Ninetales in every way
Deal with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:01:49 No.16732427 Report

Quoted By: >>16732444 >>16732469 >>16732764

>there will never be a great meta like DPP ever again

>doubles babbies will always shit up every thread they're in

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:02:11 No.16732432 Report

Quoted By: >>16732456 >>16732687

>>16732404
Why would they have banned Blaziken and Mega Gengar? Both of them check Kang perfectly fine. I'm betting, they'll ban M-Lucario instead because >m-muh mega waifu

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:02:49 No.16732444 Report

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>>16732427
I blame power creep

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:03:04 No.16732451 Report

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>>16731384
shame there are no triple metas, it takes a good degree of skill, and has plenty of variety

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:03:14 No.16732456 Report

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>>16732432
Because they're both broken piece of shit and their banning had nothing to do with Kanga (with Blaziken's ban being before everyone realised Kanga even developed as a threat)? How are you this deluded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:03:29 No.16732462 Report

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> tfw 200 dmg seismic toss is legal
> tfw nasty plot m luke 2hkos blissey
> tfw genesect wrecks my team

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:03:59 No.16732469 Report

Quoted By: >>16732484 >>16732531 >>16732639

>>16732427
>Started in dpp
damn that shit was tight

gen 5 was just unplayable

gen 6 is shaping up to be fairly righteous... once the most broken bullshit is banned as it deserves.

Let's talk about weakness policy and how righteous that shit is

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:05:16 No.16732484 Report

Quoted By: >>16732510

>>16732469
gen 5 meta was alright if you stayed out of cookie cutter OU tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:06:43 No.16732510 Report

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>>16732484
It was alright in OU once you got past 1800~ and started fighting people who knew what they were doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:07:51 No.16732531 Report

Quoted By: >>16732553 >>16732554 >>16732626 >>16732632

>>16732469
Gen 6 is gonna be mostly like gen 5 except with 5 times more priority.

>tfw suicide leads are dead
>tfw electivire baiting is dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:09:04 No.16732553 Report

Quoted By: >>16732572

>>16732531
Electivire hasn't been good since early Diamond/Pearl

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:09:06 No.16732554 Report

Quoted By: >>16732572 >>16732591

>>16732531
>Electivire baiting
That type of thing has been dead since Gen5 and team preview.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:10:39 No.16732572 Report

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>>16732553
>>16732554
I know. I was just nostalgic over DPP meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:10:47 No.16732576 Report

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>>16731419
>but being serious for a minute is this why nobody plays triple or rotation?

I played Wifi Triple Battles for a while after XY release since 3v3 singles suck and for some reason I've never gotten into Doubles. I'm currently building a Trick Room team for Rotation Battles and I have a feeling that I'm going to be playing mostly them from now on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:11:22 No.16732591 Report

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>>16732554
team preview is the worst thing
trapping people's scizors or skarms with magnezone isn't fun any more when they know it's coming

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:13:02 No.16732626 Report

Quoted By: >>16732742 >>16732789

>>16732531
B..but i use a suicide lead in battlespot singles. Carbink sets up trick room and explodes, giving mega mawile 3 turns of heavy hitting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:13:29 No.16732632 Report

Quoted By: >>16732688

>>16732531
I'm not sure, it's easier to do bulky offense this gen. When you're guaranteed to go up against priority you want to use Pokemon that can live more than a hit or two. There's also going to be a lot less weather wars, and hopefully after everything that needs to be in Ubers is in Ubers it'll be much more balanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:13:41 No.16732638 Report

Quoted By: >>16733198

>>16731896
>being this delusional
Go check the smogon thread about mkanga. Not the one in OU, the one in policy review.
Everyone there hates it too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:13:41 No.16732639 Report

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>>16732469
>Weakness policy
I always get a good laugh when some kid ragequits after I used Dragon Tail on their WP Dnite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:15:52 No.16732687 Report

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>>16732432
Because most players initially underestimated how broken she was and went straight for the WOW SPEED BOOST WOW 170 BASE SPA + SHADOW TAG.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:15:55 No.16732688 Report

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>>16732632
I love bulky offense
fuck sweeping, I'll be over here taking my time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:16:14 No.16732696 Report

Quoted By: >>16732703 >>16732729

>>16732251

UU is king. Can't wait to play with the new OU rejects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:16:57 No.16732703 Report

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>>16732696
I wish BL still existed to filter OU's old toys out from UU

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:17:45 No.16732726 Report

Quoted By: >>16732762

>you will never shitpost on shoddy battle ever again

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:17:51 No.16732729 Report

Quoted By: >>16733234

>>16732696
Enjoy metagross, avalugg, Diggersby and hydreigon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:18:25 No.16732742 Report

Quoted By: >>16732778

>>16732626
>explodes
>does 30% damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:19:22 No.16732762 Report

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>>16732726
Back when everyone lead with Aero/Azelf, Infernape was king and SkarmBlissCress was unbeatable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:19:27 No.16732764 Report

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>>16732427
>gen 4
>heatran, infernape, and scizor: The Meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:20:10 No.16732778 Report

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>>16732742
Well, it can kill Espeon! But basicaly it is to put my small faceeater unharmed in play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:20:45 No.16732789 Report

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>>16732626
>carbink and mawile
>battlespot
You're clearly bad and so is everyone you go against

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:20:48 No.16732792 Report

Quoted By:

>>16731227
this.

I mostly play doubles or triples.
I like the team work and support moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:21:52 No.16732813 Report

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I miss old Explosion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:23:18 No.16732841 Report

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HO garbage?
cookie cutter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:26:24 No.16732893 Report

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Metagame for all its M-Kanga bullshit is already so much better than weather: the game

Mkanga Genesect are the ones that deserve the ban the most from what I can see right now, I barely see MLuke but I think that's mostly because everyone is using their mega slot for Kanga right now.

Also Choice Band Talonflame is definitely his best set, as I've said before this just reminds me very much of when Technician Scizor came out in Platinum and everyone used at as a Swords Dance sweeper at first and then realized that strong priority is much more useful for revenge killing than sweeping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:26:28 No.16732896 Report

Quoted By: >>16733001

>>16732349
NIGGA Y CHARIZARD WITH OVERHEAT AND DROUGHT IS SPAMMED SO MUCH THAT PEOPLE THINK HES SCARY.

THE PROBLEM IS THE FACT THAT HE CAN OUT SPEED MOST POKEMON

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:29:30 No.16732954 Report

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the fuck is ho garbage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:31:13 No.16732987 Report

Quoted By: >>16733169

>>16731181
>HO

what's that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:31:55 No.16733001 Report

Quoted By: >>16733077 >>16733120

>>16732896
>Base 100
>outspeed most Pokemon

Most Pokemon are also unevolved. You gonna brag your Charizard beat a Croagunk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:35:39 No.16733077 Report

Quoted By: >>16733116

>>16733001
Different guy, but Charizard is far from shit this gen. Many sets in bank use tailwind on him or even flame charge to make up for his average speed. Char X is also a decent Dragon Dancer. Do people really think it's bad because it's Charizard? Even Smogon the supposed bastion of "Charizard hate" (I know they didn't hate him, assblasted charizard fans thought so) thinks both Megas are very viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:37:53 No.16733116 Report

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>>16733077
Ain't saying it's shit but, merely pointing out that it's far from "outspeeding most Pokemon" when 95-100 is what's considered average. After a Dance sure, but base Zard is hardly a jet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:38:14 No.16733120 Report

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>>16733001
i dont use him but i have been killed by it many times.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:39:46 No.16733150 Report

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>>16731181
>judging before pokebank gets released
>what is jellicent

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:41:28 No.16733169 Report

Quoted By: >>16733572

>>16732987
don't bother, I tried to ask three fucking times already

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:43:16 No.16733198 Report

Quoted By: >>16733497

>>16732638
Not the five guys who run everything, they don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:45:01 No.16733234 Report

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>>16732729
Hydreigon probably has a better chance of not dropping to UU. The Dark-type is what really sells it.

Salamence though... good god what in the fuck happened to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:48:56 No.16733319 Report

Quoted By: >>16733441

>>16731402
Skill does play a far bigger role in doubles than in singles.

>>16731419
Triples are fun, but it is some of the most imbalanced shit ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:49:17 No.16733328 Report

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>Salamence in UU
>Hydreigon in UU

What is BL guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:51:36 No.16733379 Report

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>>16731268
What is feint?

Though really that's not perfect. It doesn't even hit ghosts.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:53:59 No.16733420 Report

Quoted By: >>16733618

yfw if kyurem-b gets a good physical ice move after pokebank

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:54:42 No.16733441 Report

Quoted By: >>16733547

>>16733319
>doubles
>skills
>4 turn games
>skillful

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:56:55 No.16733485 Report

Quoted By: >>16733581

>>16731503
Talon flame is all you need. Priority Tailwind is amazing, that with roost and WoW makes it amazing as either offense or support.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:57:22 No.16733497 Report

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>>16733198
>C-conspiracies!
go

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 20:58:52 No.16733524 Report

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>>16731419
Rotations are pretty fun once you get the hang of them, plus when you switch it doesn't cost a turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 21:00:15 No.16733547 Report

Quoted By: >>16733573

>>16733441
>he thinks the length of the game has anything to do with the amount of skill it took

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 21:01:40 No.16733572 Report

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>>16733169
It's fucking hyperoffensive it has been answered at the beginning of the thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 21:01:41 No.16733573 Report

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>>16733547
Longer games mean more points where choice, prediction and strategy popped up.

Doubles were made for children and for the sake of having quick, simple games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 21:02:06 No.16733581 Report

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>>16733485
That's what I actually like about T.Pain. People seem to forget it has an amazing (albeit small) support movepool. Tailwind, WoW, and Quick Guard 9for doubles).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 21:03:50 No.16733618 Report

Quoted By: >>16733653

>>16733420
>Icicle Crash
>Superpower
GO TO UBERS, GO DIRECTLY TO UBERS, DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT $200

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 21:05:11 No.16733653 Report

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>>16733618
I'm okay with that, a box legendary should be in Ubers, it's kind of embarrassing that he wasn't overpowered enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 21:35:41 No.16734302 Report

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>>16732354

I actually checked out the OU forum with that one Grading thing yesterday. They're pretty much gonna ban her with every argument for keeping her in the 70 page being shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 21:35:53 No.16734308 Report

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>>16731419
My rotation nigga

1676 3666 2330 - Togepi, jigglypuff, floette

1676 3666 2330 - Togepi, jigglypuff, floette Tue 17 Dec 2013 21:41:09 No.16734405 Report

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>>16731419

I'm gonna try a Pressure team just for shits and giggles and see how it goes

Draining 4 PP with one wide guard will be hilarious, then I'll drain some more just out of spite

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