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Ideas to fix this disastrous metagame

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:17:13 No.16731721 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16731751 >>16731752 >>16731815

>Instead of always going first, the user is treated as having +1 speed for the turn that it uses a priority move.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:19:07 No.16731751 Report

Quoted By: >>16731801

>>16731721
that would trade priority for fast set up sweepers. It would fix nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:19:10 No.16731752 Report

Quoted By: >>16731792

>>16731721

Talonflame will still gotta go faster since it already has a very high speed, the only Pokemon that are used a lot who will suffer are Scizor and Aegislash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:19:17 No.16731754 Report

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Nah, you don't fix the disastrous metagame

It just transforms into a different flavor of bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:19:44 No.16731762 Report

Quoted By: >>16731780 >>16731880

>Obviously loses often to Smogonbird.

Git gud.

Or Git Gyarados. Either one works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:20:54 No.16731780 Report

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>>16731762
Git bulk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:21:20 No.16731788 Report

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Stop playing mindless HO bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:21:49 No.16731792 Report

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>>16731752
>Azumarill
>Crawdaunt

And then there's the annoying little shits like Gourgeist that aren't doing impressive damage with it but make Focus Sash, Sturdy, and Multiscale useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:22:26 No.16731801 Report

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>>16731751
It would mean paralysis actually works on them
It would make shell smash decent again

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:23:14 No.16731815 Report

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>>16731721
>pranksters would actually have to invest in speed
Gamefreak pls

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Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:27:50 No.16731880 Report

Quoted By: >>16732075

>>16731762
>implying smogonbird would even be affected
>implying gyarados can get more than one dragon dance in
>implying he won't die to a single priority move after

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Dec 2013 19:40:22 No.16732075 Report

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>>16731880
-1 252+ Atk Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 88 HP / 4 Def Gyarados: 127-150 (35.9 - 42.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+1 248 Atk Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 506-596 (140.5 - 165.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

This is with the gen 5 standard bulky dancer set, something that can always be changed to adapt to the meta.

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