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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:29:09 No.16743135 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16743432 >>16743583 >>16743870 >>16744053

How would an inverse-style metagame be like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:33:27 No.16743218 Report

Quoted By: >>16743553

Steel type turns into the worst type imaginable, every physical attacker has Return or Double-Edge since it isn't resisted by anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:34:48 No.16743243 Report

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Avalugg: The Meta

Zach (IGN: Monty) 5043-2451-2691 !4gSPOINK7.

Zach (IGN: Monty) 5043-2451-2691 !4gSPOINK7. Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:35:50 No.16743263 Report

Quoted By: >>16743456 >>16743521 >>16755963

Aurorus: The Meta

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:36:07 No.16743268 Report

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If it existed in-game, then GF would finally be motivated to fix Ice and Bug

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:37:20 No.16743284 Report

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>Grass and Bug SE against seven different types

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:44:33 No.16743426 Report

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ICE WALLS ERRYDAY

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:44:56 No.16743432 Report

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>>16743135
talonflame and charizard would double-resist SR and all ice-types shall reign supreme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:46:45 No.16743456 Report

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>>16743263
This
Also Mamoswine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:46:53 No.16743458 Report

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REVENGE OF BUGS THE MOVIE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:48:01 No.16743481 Report

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Avalugg would be Uber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:48:14 No.16743487 Report

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>>16743456
>only weak to poison

banish that shit to inverse-ubers!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:50:01 No.16743514 Report

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broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:50:03 No.16743516 Report

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>>16743432
dont forget ho-oh, volcarona, yanmega, and the rest of the 4x SR weak pokemon suddenly becoming double-resistant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:50:08 No.16743518 Report

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>>16743487
Immunities become weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:50:20 No.16743521 Report

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>>16743263

Weak to Return/Extremespeed. Can't catch a break even in Inverse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:50:39 No.16743523 Report

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We hope you enjoy Avalugg, because that's all you're going to be seeing: The Meta

Marika Kato !!cxhpY4QLASr

Marika Kato !!cxhpY4QLASr Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:51:57 No.16743544 Report

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Normal and Ice become gods among gods.
Bug would profit immensely.
Steel would be the new Ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:52:30 No.16743553 Report

Quoted By: >>16743594

>>16743218
Scizor and Genesect for NU
Although steel type attack moves would be much better

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:53:00 No.16743563 Report

Quoted By: >>16743588

you can play inverse battles on showdown you know

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:54:49 No.16743583 Report

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>>16743135
Ice and Normal types: The Meta: The Game: The Song: The Movie: The award winning novel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:55:07 No.16743588 Report

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>>16743563
really? thats cool ill try it out sometime.
by the way, how is it like? did you try it out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:55:41 No.16743594 Report

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>>16743553

Actually, it wouldn't even be much better since it'd only hit four types super effectively and it'd be resisted by three types.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:56:33 No.16743606 Report

Quoted By: >>16743697 >>16743722

>tfw metagross would still be good in a inverse format
>tfw metagross would be even better in inverse battles than the current meta

I dont know if I should be proud or saddened by the fact of just how fucked metagross is now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:56:52 No.16743614 Report

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heatran would go below nu

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:57:00 No.16743616 Report

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Finally, the time has come when Articuno can slap everybodies shit.

Steel taps becomes the absolute worst. Dragon types also shit tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:57:08 No.16743620 Report

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the meta game right now but inversed fucking idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:57:11 No.16743621 Report

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Can't wait for the special ladder to go Inverse

Avalugg + MegaKang, murder murder murder

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:58:43 No.16743638 Report

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Megamom would steamroll everything with even less resistence

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 05:58:45 No.16743639 Report

Quoted By: >>16743677 >>16743693

>>16743588
I haven't, but this is what it looks like

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:01:00 No.16743677 Report

Quoted By: >>16743730

>>16743639

>Scizor
>Rank 20

Am I missing something or are these people clicking inverse battle on accident?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:01:32 No.16743686 Report

Quoted By: >>16743786

>>16743594
That's better than hitting 3 types super-effectively and 4 types not very effectively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:01:56 No.16743693 Report

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>>16743639
It

isn't actually all that different

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:02:03 No.16743697 Report

Quoted By: >>16743770

>>16743606
Weak to Normal, Grass, Ice, Poison, Flying, 4x weak to Psychic, weak to Rock, Dragon, Steel, and Fairy.

Resists Fire, Ground, Ghost, and Dark.

It would be so much worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:03:51 No.16743722 Report

Quoted By: >>16743770

>>16743606
The fact it has the steel typing makes it utter poop in inverse battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:04:01 No.16743730 Report

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>>16743677
>9 x 2 weaknesses
>one x4
>one x.25 resistance
Seriously what the fuck.
Steel and bug are better but holy shit. Something could breathe on him and he'd die.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:06:27 No.16743770 Report

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>>16743722
>>16743697
>metagross will always be the very definition of suffering

I remember when that title belonged to sceptile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:07:32 No.16743786 Report

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>>16743686

Well, think about it this way. Fire sucks dicks in Inverse Battles. Water's probably still okay but not fantastic, Electric probably isn't that good either and Steel may as well be renamed to paper. On the other hand, Ice becomes a godly defensive typing, Rock is kinda screwed by that Normal weakness and Fairy isn't all too hot either. Doesn't really sound much better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:09:29 No.16743823 Report

Quoted By: >>16743905 >>16743916

Normal moves are un-resisted.

Just think about that.

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Marker !!0xfIo2Nah02 Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:11:59 No.16743870 Report

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>>16743135
bug and ice everywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:13:10 No.16743897 Report

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Bug type moves would be one of the best move types out there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:13:49 No.16743905 Report

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>>16743823
Ghost would become a weakness but still
>blissey with only a primarily special attacker weakness
Deer god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:14:33 No.16743916 Report

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>>16743823
Diggersby tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:16:08 No.16743938 Report

Quoted By: >>16743983

>>16743905
Oh wait I misread
>rock, steel, and ghost types resist normal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:19:21 No.16743983 Report

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>>16743938
Normal ends up with one weakness and three types which it's super effective against. And the rest it's neutral to.
M-Kangaskhan and Blissey would be Ubers, or at least high OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:19:50 No.16743990 Report

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Torterra might be decent
.25 from ice, resists bug, resists fire, neutral to grass

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:23:31 No.16744053 Report

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>>16743135
There is an inverse metagame on PokemonOnline. They do suspect tests and everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:27:11 No.16744107 Report

Quoted By: >>16744186

Cresselia would kick ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:32:49 No.16744186 Report

Quoted By: >>16753666

>>16744107
Psychic is actually kickass in inverse.

Since bug is indisputably the premier attacking type of inverse, with Ghost coverage being the only thing keeping Normals in check.

Trapper Gothitelle should be very potent in inverse battles

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:34:14 No.16744207 Report

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>mfw heatran in inverse battles

Five 4x weaknesses

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 06:38:46 No.16744289 Report

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>6 Avalugg vs 6 Avalugg: The Series: The Movie: The Board Game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 15:37:38 No.16749194 Report

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Normal Types would be OP since no one would resist it and it'd be super effective against Ghost, Steel, and Rock. Plus it'll still only have one weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:11:19 No.16753098 Report

Quoted By: >>16753154

Charizard shall reign as king since it doesnt give two shits about sneaky pebbles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:15:14 No.16753154 Report

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>>16753098
will it heal from sneaky stones as its inverse and usually brutally murders it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:17:07 No.16753184 Report

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Those usage stats do not reflect the actual metagame because idiots spam their normal OU teams there (only to lose in spectacular fashion).
The actual metagame is like this:

-You NEED Avalugg. Without it Curselax and Diggersby will sweep your team. Nothing else even comes close.

-Don't bother with SR, it's useless. Rapid Spin can't be blocked and Avalugg gets it.

-Ice, Normal, Grass, Bug and Psychic are godly types.

-There are no natural immunities, so abilities like Water Absorb and Sap Sipper are extremely useful.

-A cleric is a must. Toxic Spikes are deadly without it. Chansey and Articuno are great choices for that role.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:20:57 No.16753248 Report

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>>16743616
>Dragon types also shit tier.

Wat.
Dragon is only resisted by itself, it's SE against Steel and Fairy and neutral against everything else.
Defensively it's good because as I said no other type resists dragon and only grass is a relevant weakness.
If anything dragons are even more stupidly OP in inverse battles.
After pokebank we'll get access to the likes of Kyurem-B who will most likely be quickbanned as it's the only physical attacker that can get past Avalugg (Teravolt STAB Ice Beam).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:28:11 No.16753367 Report

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>>16743544
>Steel would be the new ice
It's far worse than that. Steel is horrid both offensively and defensively in inverse battles. It really has zero redeeeming qualities. It also has more than double the number of weaknesses ice normally has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:30:31 No.16753401 Report

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>Magnezone gets 11 weaknesses

dear god...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:32:05 No.16753424 Report

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Hails team everywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:35:04 No.16753462 Report

Quoted By: >>16753514

If Rock/Ice is the absolute worst defensive type in normal battles, what would be the absolute worst one in invese?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:38:04 No.16753514 Report

Quoted By: >>16753528 >>16753604

>>16753462
Probably steel/fire, i.e. the two types with the most resistances.

4x weaknesses: ice, fairy, steel, grass, bug
2x weaknesses: normal, dragon, poison, flying, psychic
2x resistances: water, fighting
4x resistances: fighting

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:39:07 No.16753528 Report

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>>16753514
Whoops I meant 4x ground resist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:43:25 No.16753604 Report

Quoted By: >>16753673

>>16753514
Steel/Fairy is worse.

4x weak to Bug
2x weak to Dark/Fairy/Flying/Grass/Ice/Normal/Psychic/Rock/Dragon/Poison
2x resist Fire/Ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:45:59 No.16753650 Report

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There should totally be an "inverse room" move. It would be interesting in the right hands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:46:57 No.16753666 Report

Quoted By: >>16753676

>>16744186
Don't normal moves hit SE on ghosts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:47:25 No.16753673 Report

Quoted By: >>16753776

>>16753604

Wouldn't Steel/Fairy be neutral to Poison because of the Fairy part?

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:47:29 No.16753676 Report

Quoted By: >>16753735

>>16753666

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:49:57 No.16753735 Report

Quoted By: >>16755533

>>16753676
i swear i used a normal move against Inver's ghost type and it hit SE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 20:51:48 No.16753776 Report

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>>16753673
Oh, right, in that case: Magnezone.

4x weak to Flying/Steel
2x weak to Bug/Dragon/Electric/Fairy/Grass/Ice/Normal/Psychic/Rock/Poison
2x resist Fight/Fire
4x resist Ground

For a nice total of 12 weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:02:15 No.16753961 Report

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Pokemon Online and apparently Showdown have inverted metagames.

Steel becomes total shit
Normal becomes broken as fuck (Nothing resists it) (Pokemon Online had to ban M-Kanga from the tier because nothing could stop its Return)
Stealth Rocks makes OU fighting types cry

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:05:00 No.16753996 Report

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ITT: people that don't know what "meta" means

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:19:14 No.16755533 Report

Quoted By: >>16757385

>>16753735

Yes they do, but Ghosts are also super effective against normals in inverse. Also Normal types will still only have one weakness as they'll gain a resistance to fighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:35:30 No.16755853 Report

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Lucario
>4x weak to rock/bug
>2x weak to dark/normal/poison/dragon/ice/grass/steel
>Ground, Fire, and Fighting resistances

lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:41:40 No.16755963 Report

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>>16743243
Smogontable
>>16743263
Smogonsaurus

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 23:57:07 No.16757385 Report

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>>16755533
okay, I get it now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Dec 2013 04:05:02 No.16762523 Report

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You could say that it would be a tabletop game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Dec 2013 04:09:18 No.16762592 Report

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Torterra would fucking wreck

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