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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:07:19 No.16754031 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16754180 >>16754209 >>16754587 >>16754808 >>16755004

Daily reminder that anyone who gets angry at people using pokegen are autistic faggots.
By all means breed, but don't scold someone for cutting the time of breeding in half. Some of us like to battle instead of using bike simulator 2013. If you spend time actively hating someone for taking the quicker route you most likely have aspergers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:08:32 No.16754050 Report

Quoted By: >>16754133 >>16754149

>Anybody who gets mad at anything as trivial as video games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:11:12 No.16754094 Report

Quoted By: >>16754133 >>16754158 >>16754219

>Pokegenners are niggers

It fits

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:13:54 No.16754133 Report

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>>16754094
see
>>16754050

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:15:04 No.16754149 Report

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>>16754050
/thread

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:15:28 No.16754158 Report

Quoted By: >>16754182

>>16754094
le epic black people + pokemon meme o_O

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:15:44 No.16754165 Report

Quoted By: >>16755030

Daily reminder that it's just as autistic to care about what autists think of you anyway

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:15:53 No.16754167 Report

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:16:29 No.16754180 Report

Quoted By: >>16754244 >>16754262

>>16754031

I disagree. You're reaping the benefits of hard work by cheating. That's really the only problem I have with it. And it's not even that hard to breed anymore

If you don't want to breed use a simulator. Is that really that autistic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:16:39 No.16754182 Report

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>>16754158
incredible? ?? combo meme ^?? ?? how did ? it happen im confuse? ?? d

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:17:48 No.16754197 Report

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arguments ITT: pic related

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:18:22 No.16754209 Report

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>>16754031
Daily reminder that this is bait, and chances are OP doesn't even use poke gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:19:14 No.16754219 Report

Quoted By: >>16754453

>>16754094
Witty comment! Original too, I never see it coming.

You are literally just going through the motions of a ritual

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:20:15 No.16754244 Report

Quoted By: >>16754442

>>16754180
Not as "autistic" as deciding who gets to play on what medium based one whether or not they cheat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:21:18 No.16754262 Report

Quoted By: >>16754358 >>16754379

>>16754180
Hoo boy, here we go.

It's hard work some of us don't have the time for. Breeders are admirable and commendable, that's true. But, y'know, it's just a time saver so we can get straight to the flesh of the fruit.

And sims are boring. Cartridges for life.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:25:48 No.16754316 Report

Quoted By: >>16754523 >>16754541 >>16754675 >>16754970

Oh boy another one of these threads.

When your only argument is "lel i sav tim by not bik simlatr2013 ur autstic if u bred" I have a hard time taking you seriously.
Especially moreso given the fact that you can't handle the foundation of competitive play without your hand being held.

Gamefreak intends for you to breed. By circumventing that, you're no better than someone who uses aimbots in [insert FPS here].

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:27:54 No.16754358 Report

Quoted By: >>16754432

>>16754262
>i don't have time for breeding
>sims are boring

well I guess you need to find a different game to play, there, sport. I have work and school, and I have time to breed, in addition to finding time to hang out with friends. You have no excuse except that you're lazy and therefore deserve no success.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:28:47 No.16754379 Report

Quoted By: >>16754432 >>16754465

>>16754262
>And sims are boring. Cartridges for life.

So basically, you know you'd get beat by the veterans on sims so you need your OU tier cookie cutter smogon babbies to beat up 12 year olds with instead. I understand. Oh, what? No, that's not the case?
>sim is stupid they're not real pokemon
PokeGen Pokemon aren't anymore valid and ar in fact more shameful to the community.
>LEL I DON'T NEED TO BEAT UP KIDS
Then why are you copy pasting their builds to beat up kids and casuals?
>I DON'T EVEN DO COMP BATTLING I DON'T NEED SMOGON
Then why do you need PokeGenned Pokemon?

The answer is clear. You just want an unfair advantage more or less. /thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:30:13 No.16754411 Report

Quoted By: >>16754459

Just play on Showdown. It's even quicker and easier than Pokegenning.

You'd have to be really autistic to take the time to generate your pokemon on a computer and then insist they get inserted into your cart in order for you to use them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:30:50 No.16754432 Report

Quoted By: >>16754492 >>16754497

>>16754358
>>16754379

The problem you both have is that you fail to understand the breeding and competitive battling do not make up the entirety of cartridge gameplay.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:31:13 No.16754442 Report

Quoted By: >>16754486 >>16754519 >>16754571 >>16754852

>>16754244
Cheating would mean using methods that the developers didn't intend for use. ie: anything outside the game's intended capabilities.

I'll break it down for you:
Masuda Method: Not cheating
>Pokegen: cheating
>Instacheck: cheating
Destiny Knot: not cheating
Kiloude IV checker: not cheating
>RNG Abuse: cheating

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:31:38 No.16754453 Report

Quoted By: >>16754509

>>16754219
So are you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:31:53 No.16754459 Report

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>>16754411
You'd really have to be "autistic" to care what other people do.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:31:58 No.16754465 Report

Quoted By: >>16754497

>>16754379
>this

Pokegenners, you know what you have to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:33:07 No.16754486 Report

Quoted By: >>16754524

>>16754442
I agree with that. But I don't agree with the idea that a "cheater" is only allowed to play on Showdown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:33:13 No.16754492 Report

Quoted By: >>16754556

>>16754432
Oh that's right, neither does collecting.
Protip: the motto of the entire franchise is "Gotta Catch 'Em All"
However, people who cheat tend to assume that battling is 100% of the game. And my argument is always that breeding is just as important as battling. If you have a good pokemon, you better have invested some time into it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:33:25 No.16754497 Report

Quoted By: >>16754556

>>16754432
So you want PokeGenned supermon to beat up the NPCs then because you're bad at the game? See >>16754465

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:34:10 No.16754509 Report

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>>16754453
Nah, I'm pretty sure my post had at least a modicum of original thought as opposed to "anon posted A, so I must type B"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:34:35 No.16754519 Report

Quoted By: >>16754546 >>16754585

>>16754442
This. Why is it so hard for people to understand something so simple?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:34:50 No.16754523 Report

Quoted By: >>16754554 >>16754659 >>16754704

>>16754316
>comparing Pokegen to aimbots
You can't be serious.
Yes, Gamefreak intends for you to breed, and while I appreciate their efforts to make it less tedious, it's still a time-sink that requires no skill, and is never fully explained in the game, making it a challenge for newer/younger players to fully experience competitive play without the aid of an online guide. Hell, we didn't know about Destiny Knot breeding until a dev tweeted about it.
And again, you can't be taken seriously if you genuinely think Pokegen is comparable to an aimbot, by doing this you've invalidated any opinion you have on the matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:34:52 No.16754524 Report

Quoted By: >>16754609 >>16754653 >>16754824

>>16754486
Well they certainly shouldn't be allowed to putrify MY play experience just to satisfy their own selfish need to be da bes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:35:38 No.16754541 Report

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>>16754316
OP never said that breeding is autistic. He said people who complain about pokegenners are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:35:58 No.16754546 Report

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>>16754519
That's great. PokeGen is still cheating and seeing as most of us here play the game the way the developers WANT us to, you should release them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:36:04 No.16754548 Report

Quoted By: >>16754654

I breed. I do not PokeGen. I have no problem with PokeGenners, I understand where they are coming from. But breeding this gen isn't too hard, and I just don't feel any connection with a Pokemon that I just create. So I use my method and acknowledge that other people do different thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:36:28 No.16754554 Report

Quoted By: >>16754660

>>16754523
>cheating is different from cheating because I SAY SO!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:36:30 No.16754556 Report

Quoted By: >>16754602 >>16754732

>>16754492
>>16754497

>However, people who cheat tend to assume that battling is 100% of the game

>So you want PokeGenned supermon to beat up the NPCs then because you're bad at the game?

Not necessarily. You guys need to stop thinking in terms of absolutes, or that there's one and only one motivation behind any given action.

>If you have a good pokemon, you better have invested some time into it.

I think you might be taking this too seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:37:06 No.16754571 Report

Quoted By: >>16754647

>>16754442
Are IV calculators cheating to you then?

What about pokecheck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:37:49 No.16754585 Report

Quoted By: >>16754617

>>16754519
You want to talk about "hard to understand," tell me why that guy went on a rant about what defines cheating to a guy who never questioned said definition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:37:53 No.16754587 Report

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>>16754031

>no simulator master race

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:38:37 No.16754602 Report

Quoted By: >>16754643

>>16754556
>I can't justify it, just let me do it and stop grilling me, okay?

If you're hacking for the Pokedex that's even more lame since none of your Pokemon are even legit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:38:51 No.16754609 Report

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>>16754524
They probably won't. If they do, you probably won't know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:39:00 No.16754617 Report

Quoted By: >>16754672

>>16754585
Not really following you mang.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:40:21 No.16754643 Report

Quoted By: >>16754687

>>16754602
I bring up a provocative point, but since you don't want to consider it, you just shove words in my mouth. It seems like you're incapable of both arguing and considering points of view other than your own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:40:34 No.16754647 Report

Quoted By: >>16754679 >>16754685

>>16754571
IV calculators aren't so bad because they don't actually change anything in the game. They are kind of redundant now though thanks to that guy in Kiloude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:40:51 No.16754653 Report

Quoted By: >>16754686 >>16755033

>>16754524
>just to satisfy their own selfish need to be da bes

Pokegenners really are whiny and entitled fucking children, aren't they? I get it, you fags who PokeGen are LAZY. You don't want to WORK for your Pokemon. I get it. But don't come in here and fucking tell us your Pokemon count and they're valid or some shit. Just do your dirty work and shut the fuck up about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:40:52 No.16754654 Report

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>>16754548
so you're one of those non-faggots OP was talking about.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:41:08 No.16754659 Report

Quoted By: >>16754701 >>16754835

>>16754523
Sorry, I can't hear you over how much more invested I am in my game than you are.
I try to be good and to breed what I need to be good in a legitimate fashion, because by hacking in the things I need, I'm no better than someone plagiarizing a paper for school. I didn't learn anything or do the work for my success.
Whether some shit-nosed 8-year-old can comprehend the breeding mechanics isn't really my problem. The competitive aspect of the game obviously isn't intended for that audience, so kindly shut the hell up.

>didn't know about destiny knot
Someone would have figured it out just by trial and error.

Perhaps an Aimbot was the wrong analogy. Plagiarization of a college-level paper is probably a bit closer. Why should you succeed for no effort when I refuse to be a piece of shit and am essentially penalized for it?
Here's a solution: How about no one gets to be a piece of shit so the people who are dedicated and actually care get to reap the rewards, hm?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:41:08 No.16754660 Report

Quoted By: >>16754758

>>16754554
No, because Pokegen is completely different then an aimbot.
Pokegen creates the same thing a breeder can and will create, in less time. An Aimbot is actually CHEATING at the game, following player movements at an inhuman level and allowing you to score points more easily.
Battle Analyzer was the Pokemon equivalent to an aimbot. Pokegen, while yes, is technically cheating at the breeding aspect of the game, does not hamper your experience with other players, the competitive aspect. Your Jolly 252 Atk 252 Speed Moxiemence is no different from a Pokegenner's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:41:53 No.16754672 Report

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>>16754617
I use pokegen and I know it's cheating. Nobody said otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:42:04 No.16754675 Report

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>>16754316
Using the program that was just recently taken down, where you are able to see what moves the opponent chooses is much more relevant to an aimbot. While it is hard to argue that PokeGen isn't cheating, it absolutely does not give any more of an advantage in the actual battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:42:10 No.16754679 Report

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>>16754647
a)Neither did Pokecheck
b)Until that guy in Kiloude gives you specific numbers, IV calculators are hardly redundant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:42:32 No.16754685 Report

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>>16754647
Instacheck didn't change anything in the game either though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:42:32 No.16754686 Report

Quoted By: >>16754712 >>16754724

>>16754653
Why are you arguing against my point and simultaneously agreeing with it? I'm a pro-breeder, you thick fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:42:36 No.16754687 Report

Quoted By: >>16754755

>>16754643
You have no point. You're dancing around ours. Either you PokeGen to get an advantage, want a Pokedex full of fakes and so on. Just get over yourself already. You're so weak you won't even say what you use PokeGen for, so it's obviously something we already outlined.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:43:20 No.16754701 Report

Quoted By: >>16754729

>>16754659
>I try to be good

I think you're reading way too much into your arbitrary vidya actions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:43:26 No.16754704 Report

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>>16754523
I feel like its the same thing as arguing why you can't stack your deck in a card game. It's all random what you draw and requires no effort so why not just have the cards you want at the top?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:43:41 No.16754712 Report

Quoted By: >>16754824

>>16754686
Oh fuck off, you entitled Pokegenner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:43:51 No.16754716 Report

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autistic children play here

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:44:28 No.16754724 Report

Quoted By: >>16754824

>>16754686
>y-you can't have a different point of view other than for or against! You just can't! EVERYTHING is black and white, it's simpler that way!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:44:43 No.16754729 Report

Quoted By: >>16754779

>>16754701
Not the same guy, but you're just morally bankrupt in general if you can't see his point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:44:47 No.16754732 Report

Quoted By: >>16754782 >>16754795

>>16754556
Oh, so the people who cheat just to win take it less seriously than I do, I see.

That was sarcasm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:45:41 No.16754755 Report

Quoted By: >>16754832

>>16754687
My point is that you can't just go around assuming that anyone who uses Pokegen fits your very narrow stereotype. There's a lot of different perspectives on the matter out there, not just yours and "not yours."

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:45:57 No.16754758 Report

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>>16754660
>An Aimbot is actually CHEATING at the game
>Pokegen, while yes, is technically cheating

This is the problem with Pokegeners. They refuse to actually admit they are fucking cheaters. Just say it. Say "I need to cheat at Pokemon for x reason"

>Your Jolly 252 Atk 252 Speed Moxiemence is no different from a Pokegenner's.

Yes it is. One was earned and one was not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:46:08 No.16754760 Report

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OP here.

I am le master troll.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:47:01 No.16754779 Report

Quoted By: >>16754803 >>16754815

>>16754729
See this is what the PokeGen argument always comes down to, morals. To be honest a lot of people don't give a fuck about morals in an online video game, and morals is never a good argument in the first place.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:47:07 No.16754782 Report

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>>16754732
>so the people who cheat just to win take it less seriously than I do

Thread over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:47:45 No.16754795 Report

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>>16754732
It was also nonsensical; I never insinuated that.

But despite your sarcasm, you're probably right

In that you're taking this way too seriously

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:48:15 No.16754803 Report

Quoted By: >>16754834

>>16754779
If you lack morals in life or in video games, you're simply a sociopath in one way or another.
>LEL U TAKE GAMES THIS SERIOUSLY LEL AUTIST LEL LEL I DO WUT I WANT
And this is exactly why I would never trust you as far as I could throw you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:48:17 No.16754804 Report

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If you trade hacked pokemon in anyway you are a piece of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:48:24 No.16754808 Report

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>>16754031
I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that breeding isn't even remotely time-consuming any more.

Just get some 2-3 IV parents from the Friend Safari (or even better, get some 4-5 IV ones from the GTS), and it'll take you about an hour, tops.

Yes, it'd be nice if hatching wasn't so boring (they could've let you hatch eggs in Pokemon Amie or something), but it only takes about 5 mins per egg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:48:42 No.16754815 Report

Quoted By: >>16754855 >>16754877

>>16754779
It's not even about morals to me. You can hack all you want but don't bring your hacks into competitive play to give yourself an advantage over people who actually follow the rules of the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:48:58 No.16754824 Report

Quoted By: >>16754880 >>16754881

>>16754712
>>16754724
You guys are retarded.
My post >>16754524 is implying that I don't think cheaters should be allowed in the actual 3DS game. If they don't want to work for shit, they can rely on simulators, rather than fucking up my experience after I've actually invested effort into my team.

>>16754712 This guy doesn't seem to realize that I'm against genning. In fact I'm the most vocal anti-cheater in this thread.

>>16754724
This guy, however, seems to think that contradictory logic is a-ok, since the other guy thought I was a genner, and started refuting my anti-gen arguments, he's contradicting himself.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:49:24 No.16754832 Report

Quoted By: >>16754900

>>16754755
You still didn't answer me. What do you use it for? Or do you just happen to fit our "narrow stereotype" and that's why you can not answer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:49:31 No.16754834 Report

Quoted By: >>16754903

>>16754803
Video games are not real life, friend.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:49:35 No.16754835 Report

Quoted By: >>16754910 >>16754970 >>16755011

>>16754659
>Sorry, I can't hear you over how much more invested I am in my game than you are.
Sorry, while you're breeding, I'm actually playing the game, instead of a timesink that walls players from being able to properly play the multiplayer game.
>I try to be good and to breed what I need to be good in a legitimate fashion, because by hacking in the things I need, I'm no better than someone plagiarizing a paper for school.
This is a terrible analogy. By plagaraizing, you simply copy paste a bunch of information without knowing what you're doing. If you do that with Pokegen you're just terrible, both a Pokegenner and breeder typically have the same knowledge about what they want to create, one just wants to take a shortcut. Studying and researching for a paper is not equal to pressing left and right, waiting for your eggs to hatch.
You want a better analogy? A breeder is a kid who writes his 10 page essay by hand, and a Pokegenner is a kid who types his 10 page essay on the computer. One is simply quicker, while the other is slower and has no real advantages besides making your fingers more muscular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:50:15 No.16754852 Report

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>>16754442
>anything outside the game's intended capabilities.
>RNG Abuse: cheating

by RNGing you are using the game intended capabilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:50:18 No.16754855 Report

Quoted By: >>16754913

>>16754815
But it gives you 0 advantages in the competitive aspect. The breeding portion is not competitive no matter how badly you want it to be. The end result of breeding/PokeGenning is the same.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:50:55 No.16754871 Report

Quoted By: >>16754916

>pokegen v breeding threads
>every day
>every hour
>for the rest of /vp/'s existance

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:51:05 No.16754877 Report

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>>16754815
> You can hack all you want but don't bring your hacks into competitive play to give yourself an advantage over people who actually follow the rules of the game.
But I can breed a pokemon to be exactly the same as a legit pokegenned one and there would be no difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:51:10 No.16754880 Report

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>>16754824
>Pokegenners are lazy!
>Only bred/caught Pokemon are valid!

These aren't contradictory points.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:51:12 No.16754881 Report

Quoted By: >>16755033

>>16754824
>I don't think cheaters should be allowed in the actual 3DS game. If they don't want to work for shit, they can rely on simulators, rather than fucking up my experience after I've actually invested effort into my team.

You're the retard, I was agreeing with you and the other guy was too I bet. Get off your pedestal, fuckwit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:52:12 No.16754900 Report

Quoted By: >>16754925

>>16754832
You assumed I use Pokegen. I don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:52:17 No.16754903 Report

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>>16754834
I couldn't care less if it's real life or not. I still do things the right way, anywhere and any time. If you lack the moral fiber to do so, then go ahead. And, we're not friends by a long shot.

Ciao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:52:38 No.16754910 Report

Quoted By: >>16754966

>>16754835
>Actually playing the game
I'm on your side, pal, but breeding is the game. bikesimulator 2013 is a better example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:52:51 No.16754913 Report

Quoted By: >>16754943 >>16754986

>>16754855
1. You have the advantage of quickly getting what you want for regular Pokemon instead of the time it takes to breed. (this one doesn't bother me as much)
2. You get legendary Pokemon with desired nature and IVs instantly when getting them in real life is hard as hell. (this is what annoys me)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:52:54 No.16754916 Report

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>>16754871
It'll only get worse when Pokebanks comes, since we'll all just Pokegen Japanese 6IV dittos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:53:20 No.16754925 Report

Quoted By: >>16754981

>>16754900
You implied you used it the whole time. So basically you were just baiting. Pathetic and juvenile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:54:16 No.16754943 Report

Quoted By: >>16754971 >>16754975 >>16754976

>>16754913
Why does it annoy you? It's not like you use them in competitive play anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:55:07 No.16754966 Report

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>>16754910
I just wanted to sound like a bigger condescending asshole, but you're right. I just really hate it when breeders feel like they "earned" or "worked" for their Pokemon when all breeding is riding your bike and relying on RNG to be in your favor.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:55:16 No.16754970 Report

Quoted By: >>16755059 >>16755093

>>16754835
>while you're breeding I'm playing the game.
breeding IS the game, dipshit. See
>>16754316.

>Studying and researching for a paper is not equal to pressing left and right, waiting for your eggs to hatch
No, but it's certainly more impressive when I have the patience to breed and still come up with the same moveset, IVs and nature without resorting to easymode like a fucking child.

There is no excuse for cheating except laziness. Shortcuts are for pussies who cry when they lose and need to take the easy way out because they can't handle the actual process of the game and need to compensate with cheats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:55:17 No.16754971 Report

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>>16754943
Not all legendaries are banned. Can I breed genies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:55:24 No.16754975 Report

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>>16754943
You're one of those retards that bans all legendaries just because they are legendaries?

Too scared to take on a Raikou or Entei or Articuno or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:55:28 No.16754976 Report

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>>16754943
>what is Lati@s
>what is Heatran
>what is gen v trio

Fucked that one up, didn't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:55:40 No.16754981 Report

Quoted By: >>16755124

>>16754925
No, I didn't imply that. You assumed it.

I can not use Pokegen and be okay with it, just like someone can not smoke marijuana and still not be against it. Your problem is you look at things in a black-and-white, us-versus-them, if-you're-not-with-me-you're-against-me mentality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:55:51 No.16754986 Report

Quoted By: >>16755053

>>16754913
Yes but it doesn't matter how quickly you get your competitive pokemon, that doesn't help you once your actually in a battle. I can agree with you on the Legendaries though, I guess that would provide an unfair advantage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:56:25 No.16755004 Report

Quoted By:

>>16754031
>Actually trying to justify CHEATING
I knew cheaters were faggots, but holy shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:56:46 No.16755011 Report

Quoted By:

>>16754835
This analogy would work, if by using the computer you got the paper instantaneously and with no required effort

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:57:13 No.16755030 Report

Quoted By:

>>16754165
Come to think about it, you have a very good point

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:57:25 No.16755033 Report

Quoted By:

>>16754881
Doesn't seem like it to me.
Take a second look at your post:
>>16754653

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:58:02 No.16755053 Report

Quoted By: >>16755099

>>16754986
It can help you if you were to do a rematch. You could instantly conjure up the exact pokemon and movesets and items required to beat the other persons team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:58:12 No.16755059 Report

Quoted By: >>16755094

>>16754970
Ok so I took the shortcut, I'm lazy. Why do you care?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:59:17 No.16755085 Report

Quoted By: >>16755141 >>16755151

I'm going to compare pokegen/the games to minecraft.

Would you consider WorldEdit cheating?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:59:31 No.16755093 Report

Quoted By: >>16755141

>>16754970
See, this is where your argument falls apart. You say Pokegen is "easymode", and you call Pokegenners are "pussies", as if breeding is a task that is difficult, or requires skill or intellect.
It isn't. It's what I've repeated numerous time, a timesink. You roll dice until you get the desired outcome.
Would you find Pokegen acceptable if, instead of selecting your IVs, you just pressed a "ROLL" button that randomized them until preferable? Because that's exactly what breeding is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:59:33 No.16755094 Report

Quoted By: >>16755123 >>16755149

>>16755059
>>16755059
Because you don't deserve shit.
You ought to lose every game for being such a fucking lazy piece of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 21:59:51 No.16755099 Report

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>>16755053
That's assuming you don't have a whole box of competitively bred pokemon. You also may have access to a counter team directly after the match.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:00:42 No.16755123 Report

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>>16755094
And you should win because you put work into something?
Effort=/=Good

Hitler put effort into killing people.
You put effort into shitposting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:00:45 No.16755124 Report

Quoted By: >>16755176

>>16754981
>No, I didn't imply that..
Heh, I'd go greentext all of the times you did. But I can tell you're a simply a wimp who enjoys being right when he's wrong and defending things that can't really be defended.
>Your problem is you look at things in a black-and-white
Cute, let me play armchair psychologist too. Your problem is you're just so confused you can't pick what side you're on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:01:04 No.16755129 Report

Quoted By: >>16755213

>implying an autist wouldn't take the shortest route

We are logical beings. We take the route that makes the most objective sense.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:01:27 No.16755141 Report

Quoted By:

>>16755085
Yes.
You didn't farm the resources to build your magnificent structures.
I don't even play Creative Mode. I think it's lame.

>>16755093
Is it included in the game cartridge? No?
Then yes, it's still cheating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:01:32 No.16755149 Report

Quoted By:

>>16755094
Hence the OP calling people like you autistic. The fact that you are clearly so angry about this means you care way to much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:01:35 No.16755151 Report

Quoted By:

>>16755085
>Minecraft
But that aside, no... there's pretty much no "work" you can do to generate Minecraft worlds (due to the randomness) so "creating" a seed has no real harm also
>Implying breeding and training a single Pokemon takes as long as it does to make a full-on huge Minecraft map

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:02:40 No.16755174 Report

Quoted By:

>Pokegen
i do not PERSONALLY like the use of that for my own mons, but that doesn't means im against it, because yes, my strong mons will be the same as theirs, i feel it most as a personal merit, some people don't need to feel that merit, some others do, to each their own

>RNG abuse
i do RNG my mons, i feel it with more merit that game itself generates it, so i feel more secure that it is "valid" to my personal standards because the game made it, again some personal merit that is subjective and non-important but to personal satisfaction

>Breeding
i do bred my pokemon before, but since its a merit i don't really need i went to RNGing them, right now im breeding in X/Y cuz there's no RNG abuse and instacheck is dead

>cheating/not cheating
is more a matter of PERSONAL opinion and how much merit you need to feel you are aquiring by getting your mons, just please don't shove your merit need over the others, keep it to yourself since that is what that merit should be, personal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:02:47 No.16755176 Report

Quoted By: >>16755224

>>16755124
No, I just made it clear in my last post that I'm okay with Pokegen, even if I don't use it myself.

You're the one who keeps shoving words in my mouth, I'd say that's pretty "wimpy" as arguments go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:04:17 No.16755213 Report

Quoted By: >>16755248 >>16755265

>>16755129
>We take the route that makes the most objective sense.
Wouldn't that be the shortest?
Checkmate.
Pogegenners 2, breedfags -9000

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:04:50 No.16755224 Report

Quoted By: >>16755641

>>16755176
>I'm okay with Pokegen, even if I don't use it myself
So you're a submissive.
>You're the one who keeps shoving words in my mouth
Hah. You really are lame. You did that just earlier. You remind me of this one guy who argued with me why it was okay for him to want to fuck kids. By any chance are you a pedophile?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:05:58 No.16755248 Report

Quoted By: >>16755265

>>16755213
That's what I just said.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:06:43 No.16755263 Report

Quoted By: >>16755398 >>16755825

>MFW This entire thread
You two groups are both faggots, one group thinks using third-party software to manipulate the game isn't cheating, and the other side thinks riding back and forth on a bicycle for hours is a good use of time. Just shut the fuck up and play the game how you want.

Not that anything I say matters. You faggots will argue about this until the Pokemon franchise ends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:06:53 No.16755265 Report

Quoted By:

>>16755213
>>16755248
Checkmate.
Pokegenners 2, breedfags -8999

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:07:18 No.16755278 Report

Quoted By:

The entire basis for this argument is that people lump breeding in to the competitive aspect of the game. Breeding by itself is not competitive, it is preparation for competition. PokeGen as well is preparation for competition. In that regard, PokeGen is cheating and allows you to skip the preparation step. However, it in no way gives you any advantages in the actual competition. If you look at each section (competition/competition prep) individually, then there wouldn't be an argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:09:07 No.16755330 Report

Quoted By: >>16755390

I am a breeder, and in general, I have no problem with pokegenners. My only issue comes when they interfere with the online part of the game - for example, they trade their genned pokemon for a breeded one, or they enter a tournament with a generated pokemon.
Aside of that, they pretty much are free to do whatever the fuck they want

but since they actually do interfere with the online, they all can go fuck themselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:12:14 No.16755390 Report

Quoted By: >>16755476

>>16755330
and how is your breeded mon better than a genned one?
how is a person who bred their pokemon better than someone who genned the exact same team
the time you played to get it?
so now pokemon are worth the time they were invested on?
not IVs, not EVs, not Nature?

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:12:49 No.16755398 Report

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>>16755263
This nigga gets it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:16:40 No.16755476 Report

Quoted By: >>16755803

>>16755390
It's not about if breeded pokémon are better or worse than the genned ones, or if the breeder is a better person than the genner.
It's because the game is designed from two sides: first, know how to battle; and second, assemble your team by your own means.
It's just a matter of rules, and how people who follow them and people who don't shouldn't be together in the same gameplay (that's what I meant when I said my issue starts when they interfere with the legal online)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:24:39 No.16755641 Report

Quoted By: >>16755790

>>16755224
Permissive. The word is permissive.

I notice you aren't denying that you're putting words in my mouth.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:31:37 No.16755790 Report

Quoted By: >>16756037

>>16755641
>Permissive
Submissive. You're "black and white" and easy.
>I notice you aren't denying
I notice you aren't denying being a pedophile. Or putting words in mine. But really, I couldn't care less about it.

What I do care about is the former though. Your disposition and manner of speech is so familiar. I wonder just who you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:32:28 No.16755803 Report

Quoted By: >>16755837

>>16755476
and what rules are that? breed your pokemon mindlessly while you play Bicyle Simulator?
even if both bred and genned pokemon would have the exact same performance in battle?
they aren't interfering with anything legal, they are perfectly legit mons, like the ones anybody can breed, they are not granting you any advantage over others

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:33:55 No.16755825 Report

Quoted By:

>>16755263
Five star post

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:34:43 No.16755837 Report

Quoted By:

>>16755803
I don't know if you didn't read what I wrote before, or if you're just tempting me/just retarded.

Peace, whatever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2013 22:46:21 No.16756037 Report

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>>16755790
I didn't address it because it was a silly and baseless accusation to begin with. This conversation has devolved to the point where I don't see the value in continuing.

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