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Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 22:40:19 No.16826884 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16827204 >>16827233 >>16828249 >>16830365

Steadfast of Inner Focus?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 22:41:23 No.16826910 Report

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Who cares? Once you go mega, you get Adaptability.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 22:42:26 No.16826925 Report

Quoted By: >>16827267

Justified.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 22:55:35 No.16827204 Report

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>>16826884
>Steadfast

But Anon, Steadfast is one hell of a shitty ability - especially on a pokemon this notorious and well-known as Lucario.

Noone would wish to give Lucario free speed boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 22:57:03 No.16827233 Report

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>>16826884

If Physical/Mixed, Justified.
If purely Special (best set), Inner Focus.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 22:57:26 No.16827247 Report

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justified is best, switch into a dark move, get the attack boost then mega and begin to rape

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 22:58:34 No.16827267 Report

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>>16826925
Zoroark pls go

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 22:59:27 No.16827286 Report

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>>16827233
>best set
>no close combat
>no bullet punch
>megas special attack is lower than its attack
lel top kek. you just think its the best because "muh hipster set ;_;"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 22:59:49 No.16827291 Report

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Proud of its power

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:01:30 No.16827326 Report

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>>16827233
>Special
>best set
Only if you're going mega.

Nasty Plot w/Adaptability Vacuum Wave and Flash Cannon. Vacuum Wave gets the same power as, but one level less priority than, Extreme Speed. Flash Cannon fuck fairies and is generally awesome with 160 power. Last move is coverage filler.

Much like the Spanish inquisition, nobody expects special Lucario.

Benjamin 4167-4765-2789 (Tediursa, Loudred, Ditto)

Benjamin 4167-4765-2789 (Tediursa, Loudred, Ditto) Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:01:43 No.16827330 Report

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Does anyone have 4IV timid riolu with vacuum wave for trade?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:03:25 No.16827373 Report

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>>16827326
mega special lucario is shit too. lucario is best either purely physical or maybe mixed. his physical movepool is so much stronger than his special

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:04:14 No.16827391 Report

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>>16827286
It's like you want to get walled by Lando-T and Aegislash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:05:49 No.16827415 Report

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>>16827373
Viable physical moves:
>close combat, priority attack of choice, crunch/shadow claw, sd
Viable special moves:
>aura sphere, vacuum wave, dark pulse/shadow ball, nasty plot
So much worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:05:56 No.16827418 Report

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>>16827391
>implying I don't run crunch
suck a dick fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:07:33 No.16827462 Report

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>>16827415
all those special moves have lower base power than close combat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:08:59 No.16827500 Report

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>>16827462
And all of those special moves are going to do more to the physical walls that commonly switch in to lucario.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:09:24 No.16827511 Report

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>>16827391

This. It's much harder to wall the special set than the physical set. Anybody who has said otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about.

>>16827418

Then you're walled by Gliscor and Landorus-T. Not to mention you risk the opposing Aegislash use King's Shield.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:10:37 No.16827533 Report

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>>16827418
>running crunch
>letting gliscor and lando-t fuck you in the ass
>not running mixed nasty plot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:10:59 No.16827540 Report

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>>16827511
>>16827500
>getting walled by something means its bad
special lucario gets walled by anything with assault vest

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:12:39 No.16827572 Report

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>>16827540
>beating the things that normally wall it while still being an extremely potent sweeper isn't good
Stop jerking off to large numbers and learn how to fucking metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:12:49 No.16827576 Report

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>>16827540
>2hko on eviolite chansey or blissey
>2hko ass vest goodra

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:15:25 No.16827631 Report

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>>16827540

It's bad when you're walled by some of the most common Pokemon available, over certain users of an item you only see on Conkeldurr and Tyranitar once you pass 1400 rating.

Honestly, I thought it was common consensus that the special set was better. Do people still not know? Metagame is more about environment than power, otherwise I would see more Banded Darmanitans running around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:26:33 No.16827810 Report

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>>16827631
>Metagame is more about environment than power
That was kind of my point of my "Spanish inquisition" comment before.

Just about everyone runs physical Lucario because it has more potential for damage. Yes, it is stronger. Close Combat is a stronger move. That's not up for debate.

But because everyone expects a physical set, everyone prepares to fight against a physical set. It's only when they see the "Lucario used Nasty Plot" do they realize that they've made a horrible mistake by sending in a physical counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:34:10 No.16827927 Report

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>>16827286
>not knowing Luke's special set is the reason he's suspect

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Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:51:42 No.16828249 Report

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>>16826884
No Guard

derp lol

derp lol Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:50:00 No.16830365 Report

Quoted By: >>16830562 >>16830809

>>16826884
>lucario
Justified who makes u flinch any ways.
Drain Punch-150 pr if adaptability and this heals you.
Bullet Punch-80pr priority

aura sphere-180pr always hits.
Crunch
Blaze Kick
Earthquake
Poison Jab-fairys
Cross Chop-200pr80acc
low kick should have 200 pr 100acc while fighting mega mommy and there are no draw backs to using this move.
Dragon Pulse or Ice Punch-for dragons
Reversal=could technically have 400 pr if you have 1-4% remaining hp.
bone rush is good for breaking subs.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:05:34 No.16830562 Report

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>>16830365
>that entire post

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:08:05 No.16830600 Report

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>>16827286
>not knowing the special set 2HKO's everything in the game

derp lol

derp lol Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:11:08 No.16830643 Report

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>>16830562
a fantastic list of lucarios physical moves and a few special attack moves.he has quite a few nice moves id say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:24:23 No.16830809 Report

Quoted By: >>16830904

>>16830365
>aura sphere-180
>180

derp lol

derp lol Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:31:17 No.16830904 Report

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>>16830809
whoops thought that it was 90 doubled apparently they nerfed its damage this gen.darn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:34:56 No.16830965 Report

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>>16827286
>not knowing that the special nasty plot set can 1-2 shot everything it goes against

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:38:27 No.16831021 Report

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>>16827286
There's literally no point in using physical M-Lucario though, Life Orb is better. His Special Attack is already decent as his base form had higher Sp.Attack. With his special set, he can basically 2-1HKO everthiny with Aura Sphere and Shadow Ball after a nasty plot. He also has Vacuum Wave for priority, or you could run Flash Cannon for that extra adaptability boosted (but mostly unnecessary) coverage. Fighting + Ghost is all you really need.

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