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Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:29:14 No.16827849 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16834221 >>16834710 >>16834793 >>16834835 >>16835243

>Jigglypuff line re-typed to Normal/Fairy
>Clefairy line re-typed to pure Fairy
>Chansey line stays Normal
>Audino stays Normal

How does this shit work?

ITT: Pokemon you wanted to be retconned to Fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:31:53 No.16827897 Report

Quoted By: >>16827966 >>16835143 >>16835529

Chansey and Audino aren't moon pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:32:46 No.16827908 Report

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Dunsparce. Also I wanted it to have a mega.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:36:00 No.16827966 Report

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>>16827897
Gardevoir and Slurpuff aren't moon pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:42:58 No.16828096 Report

Quoted By: >>16828366

Mismagius and Cresselia are two huge missed opportunities. Using a fairy type Mismagius in OU would have been a blast.

Beyond that, Audino, Milotic, and the lake trio legendaries all should have been retconned. Celebi.... maybe.

Chansey line would make sense but I would hate to have to battle a fairy-type Blissey or Chansey. So no to that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:59:14 No.16828366 Report

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>>16828096
I have never agreed with someone on the internet more. ghost/fairy mismagius would be so good

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:01:03 No.16828397 Report

Quoted By: >>16834354

Fairy Blissey would be competitively broken

Gamefreak did the right thing.

I'm interest on why Glalie and Snorunt arent fairies

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:05:00 No.16828469 Report

Quoted By: >>16836221 >>16836228

Pokemon with Sound powers are generally Normal types. Like Meloetta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:05:58 No.16828479 Report

Quoted By: >>16834095 >>16836276

I kinda wanted Foongus to be Grass/Fairy, as it would've alluded to mushroom fairy rings. I also would've liked more trickster or mischievous Pokémon to become Fairies, like Zoroark, maybe.

I definitely agree on Audino and Chansey, though. If they're going with all the "pink and cute" things, then they'd've been good candidates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:07:32 No.16828527 Report

Quoted By: >>16834394

Could Gen VII potentially retcon more Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:27:36 No.16832699 Report

Quoted By: >>16832744

What makes Chansey and Audino remotely fairy like? And almost every fairy pokemon for that matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:30:58 No.16832744 Report

Quoted By: >>16843645

>>16832699
>Is it Pink
>Is it feminine
>is it a cute rodent
That's GF's definition of what constitutes a Fairy type.
Sorry guys, no Dullahans or Nucklavee.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:34:21 No.16832802 Report

Quoted By: >>16833366 >>16834004 >>16834121

Chansey line
Misdreavus line
Celebi
Snorunt line (except Froslass)
Lake legendaries
Cresselia
Audino

The lake legendaries not being re-typed is especially retarded. Their designs are obviously fairy-like and their names straight up come from different kinds of fairies. There's no excuse and it's like Game Freak was scared to re-type legendaries for whatever dumb reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:12:07 No.16833366 Report

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>>16832802
>scared to re-type legendaries for whatever dumb reason.

That's exactly why.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:51:40 No.16833973 Report

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What's worse is it's evident audino was supposed to be valeries MVP so was obviously close to becoming fairy type. Her outfit is obviously based off one, and there's a giant plaque in the shape/coloration of an audino behind her during the gym battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:52:58 No.16834004 Report

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>>16832802
"Uxie,Mespirt,& Azelf, who are monotyped pixies with fairy names are not fairies"
"Uxie,Mespirt,& Azelf, who are monotyped pixies with fairy names are not fairies"
"Uxie,Mespirt,& Azelf, who are monotyped pixies with fairy names are not fairies"
I have to keep saying this shit to get over this fact. But it might take a pretty damn while. Because its so hard to believe a company owning a franchise this huge can be this retarded in game design.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:57:58 No.16834095 Report

Quoted By: >>16836276

>>16828479
>they'd've

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:59:33 No.16834121 Report

Quoted By: >>16834203

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:03:54 No.16834203 Report

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>>16834121
It's just their own autism. They're super reluctant to retcon national dex order, and made cross-gen evolutions not so straight forward for this reason, and they're afraid to retype legendaries. It's basically agreed that if the pixies and Cresselia were released this gen they would have been Fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:05:36 No.16834221 Report

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>>16827849
I'm glad chansey stayed normal, she would be overpowered as fuck with fairy typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:14:03 No.16834354 Report

Quoted By: >>16834470 >>16834508 >>16834526

>>16828397
>I'm interest on why Glalie and Snorunt arent fairies
Is this a joke or do you guys genuinely believe Glalie and Snorunt should have been fairy type? If so, how?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:16:44 No.16834394 Report

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>>16828527
Very, very unlikely that if a pokemon wasn't retconned in this generation, it will be in the next one. Come gen VII Gamefreak isn't going to say, "Oh man, how did we miss [insert Mismagius, Celebi, etc.]. Well, better late than never!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:22:44 No.16834470 Report

Quoted By: >>16834508 >>16834526 >>16834781

>>16834354
>Fairy Egg Group
Yeah I don't see it either. If anything, Glalie is gonna be retconed to Ice/Dark in it's mega. Isn't it an Oni?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:26:32 No.16834508 Report

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>>16834354
>>16834470
They're based on yokai. It's the same reason why Mawile might be Fairy type. Also Ice/Fairy would at least give Glalie a niche from having a unique type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:27:28 No.16834526 Report

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>>16834470
>>16834354
The Oni thing is key here. People want it to be Fairy because of that. Sure, Gamefreak usually makes fairies cute pink things but there's also the whole Fair Folk thing, the only one to do that at the moment is Mawile (and maybe Gardevoir) who is based off a youkai as well. That being said, I think it would be better if he stayed pure ice or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:41:28 No.16834710 Report

Quoted By: >>16834740 >>16834967 >>16835536

>>16827849
Mismagius (but not misdrevous)
Zoroark
Ninetales
The fucking Fairy trio
Politoed (prince/frog fairy tale)
Celebi
Jirachi
Mega Absol
Luvdisc (make it a bit more unique)
Lumineon
Cryogonal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:44:07 No.16834740 Report

Quoted By: >>16834836

>>16834710
>Zoroark
That's like one of the iconic mono dark types.

Kornheiser !IYsWILbonQ

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Kornheiser !IYsWILbonQ Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:47:26 No.16834781 Report

Quoted By: >>16835359

>>16834470
I thought Glalie was a goalie mask, and that's why it was ice and the name sounded like goalie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:47:41 No.16834784 Report

Quoted By: >>16834809

Audino and Chansey didn't get retyped because unlike CleFAIRY and Jigglypuff (based on those singing fairies that kill with their song), they're not based on any fairy tale or myth.

Jeydis 1805-2222-8581 Boldore,Pupitar, Rhydon

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Jeydis 1805-2222-8581 Boldore,Pupitar, Rhydon Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:48:18 No.16834793 Report

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>>16827849
Chansey line is stong enough as it is. Audino couldve been nice though.

Beautifly is my choice, would be nice to add some variety to all the butterfly pokemon and maybe give it a niche.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:49:40 No.16834809 Report

Quoted By: >>16834888 >>16834889

>>16834784
because clearly, Marill and Dedenne are the epitome of fairy tales and myths. :^)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:51:34 No.16834835 Report

Quoted By: >>16835025

>>16827849
Keldeo
Hell, any Water-Type could deserve a Fairy retcon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:51:49 No.16834836 Report

Quoted By: >>16834869

>>16834740
>ITT: Pokemon you wanted retconned to Fairy
>Not ITT: Pokemon you think ever had any chance to be retconned to Fairy
No, most of my choices had no chance, but I would have liked more retcons to have happened to diversify the type and for the number of Fairy type to seem somewhat respectable in comparison to the other types, even those canonically considered "rare" by type alone (Ghost, Dragon, Dark, Steel)
I also would have released at least 10 more brand new fair type pokemon, including a fast one based on Dullahan, and a bulky one based on the Ghost Chest. Also a Fairy/Flying spook Umbrella

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:54:01 No.16834869 Report

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>>16834836
>karakasa not being Ghost or Dark

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:55:17 No.16834888 Report

Quoted By: >>16834953 >>16834985

>>16834809
Azumarill(not Marill since final evos finalizes the concept) is based off this thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_rabbit
Wigglytuff might be based off the same except without the ocean tides Azumarill has it going with the "bubble design"

Dedenne tho,........maybe a gremlin(look at dex entry)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:55:17 No.16834889 Report

Quoted By: >>16834951

>>16834809
Not sure if I remember correctly, but Marill is based off some sort of algae ball and in Japan those are considered fairies. I'll try hunting the post down on the archive.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:57:33 No.16834927 Report

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Fairy/Dark.

Please try to understand guys.

Sableye is based on the Hopkinsville Goblin, which is an alien sighting (like all alien things, bizarrely big in Japan). That gives an alien vibe, which Fairy sort of has through Clefairy.

Its also generally based on a goblin or imp, so easily fits under the mischievous fairy creature category like Mawile and Klefki.

Also, goblins and fairies are sometimes considered to just be alien sightings in the past that were interpreted as mythical beings.

Ghost/Dark has lost its no weakness typing, and Spiritomb still has it.

It should also get an evolution based on the Flatwoods Monster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:59:26 No.16834951 Report

Quoted By: >>16834991 >>16834995

>>16834889
Do you mean Marimo?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marimo

I can't find anything about them being fairies (or any kind of folklore), though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:59:33 No.16834953 Report

Quoted By: >>16835070

>>16834888
>Azumarill(not Marill since final evos finalizes the concept) is based off this thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_rabbit

People still use this crappy excuse? Marill isn't a rabbit and there was absolutely zero reference to them having anything to do with moon rabbits before. You could probably make up reasons for Chansey and Audino too if they got re-typed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:00:36 No.16834967 Report

Quoted By: >>16835131 >>16835278

>>16834710
>Mismagius (but not misdrevous)
I get you
>Zoroark
Not all youkai deserve fairy
>Ninetales
However, if kitsune does, Ninetales would be it
>The fucking Fairy trio
Si
>Politoed (prince/frog fairy tale)
I get the reference, but its not really worth it
>Celebi
Si
>Jirachi
Si
>Mega Absol
Too late, don't really see the fairy aspect
>Luvdisc (make it a bit more unique)
No real point, but anything anything anything all all
>Lumineon
For same reason as above? Otherwise, nah
>Cryogonal
Now you're just desperate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:02:19 No.16834985 Report

Quoted By: >>16835096

>>16834888
Dedenne is a dormouse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:02:45 No.16834991 Report

Quoted By:

>>16834951
http://educationinjapan.wordpress.com/fielding-field-trips/lake-akan-a-k-a-the-fairy-lake-in-hokkaido-and-the-marimo-museum/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:03:01 No.16834995 Report

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>>16834951
Me neither, but I guess it might have something to do with Miyazaki according to this Anon? I don't know.

https://archive.foolz.us/vp/thread/12646100/#12646336

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:06:11 No.16835025 Report

Quoted By: >>16835037

>>16834835
>Keldeo
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:06:55 No.16835037 Report

Quoted By: >>16835063

>>16835025
Kelpies

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:08:41 No.16835053 Report

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What I don't understand is how Misdreavus, which is based on a banshee, which literally means "woman of the fairy mounds" isn't a Fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:09:22 No.16835063 Report

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>>16835037
It's just that Kelpies aren't really about justice, etc, etc. and are more about drowning and eating people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:09:57 No.16835070 Report

Quoted By: >>16835422

>>16834953
>Aquarabbit Pokemon
git gud
The moon stuff is the real stretch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:11:47 No.16835096 Report

Quoted By: >>16835138 >>16836345

>>16834985
I know, although it dismantles machinery like gremlins do. I mean there has to be a hidden origin to why its a Fairy type. And they blend completely different concepts together all the time. What does a weasel have to do with kung-fu?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:13:59 No.16835130 Report

Quoted By: >>16835197

Chansey is just a burd
Audino is from Gen V and they seemed really reluctant to change or add anything from that gen (no megas, only Whimsicott retyped)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:14:07 No.16835131 Report

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>>16834967
Cryogonal could be retconned to be "an ice spirit" or an otherwise enchanted snowflake. Hell when I first saw the design, I thought it was ice/ghost.
Lumineon is elegant and Fairy could be the embodiment of it's Light based movepool. And STAB Dazzling Gleam.
Luvdisc just needs SOMETHING to a) Make it not a shitmon, B) Make it LESS obvious that it should have evolved into alomalomalomaloo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:14:35 No.16835138 Report

Quoted By: >>16835268

>>16835096
>although it dismantles machinery like gremlins do
Where does it say that?

DBG 2809-8939-5066 Flying: Spearow, Woobat, ???

DBG 2809-8939-5066 Flying: Spearow, Woobat, ??? Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:14:51 No.16835143 Report

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>>16827897

Lunatone is still Rock/Psychic

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:19:09 No.16835197 Report

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>>16835130
oh...oh god...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:20:02 No.16835218 Report

Quoted By: >>16835309 >>16835313 >>16835328

How the shit has no one said Lilligant?
I still can't believe Whimsicott got fairy and Lilligant didn't.
>tfw no stab moonblast after a quiver dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:21:36 No.16835243 Report

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>>16827849

Am I the only one who thinks Gallade should be Fairy/Fighting?

Or at least get a Mega-Volution that turns him into one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:23:14 No.16835268 Report

Quoted By: >>16835290

>>16835138
>Y dex entry: It uses its tail to absorb electricity from power plants or from outlets in houses, and then it fires the electricity from its whiskers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:23:32 No.16835276 Report

Quoted By: >>16835311 >>16835347

I just wanna leave this here...

Fairy/Ghost Mismagius

Four immunities (Normal, Fighting, Dragon, Ground via Levitate)
One resistance (Bug. But nobody cares about Bug.)
Two weaknesses (Ghost, Steel)

How hard want? Pretty damn hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:23:36 No.16835278 Report

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>>16834967

Ninetails and Lumineon could both get Megavolutions that make them Fairy.

And I understand why Lumineon could be Fairy- It glows and has what look like Fairy Wings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:24:37 No.16835290 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835268
Yeah, that doesn't say anything about dismantling anything. It's like a taser you have to charge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:25:37 No.16835309 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835218
Whimsicott's jap name
>エルフーン Elfuun
>Elf
That's why. There's not much reason to retype Lilligant other than she's pretty, would have been nice though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:25:50 No.16835311 Report

Quoted By: >>16835316 >>16835377

>>16835276
And dem STABs. Ghost/Fairy confirmed for best typing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:26:07 No.16835313 Report

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>>16835218
Whimsicott much better fits the whimsical mischievous fairy category.

Lilligant is literally just a dancing flower.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:26:47 No.16835316 Report

Quoted By: >>16836322

>>16835311

Up there with Poison/Electric.

8 resistances, 2 weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:27:29 No.16835328 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835218
She doesn't get Moonblast. Wheres the "fairy" on Lilligant exactly? All I see is a dancing flower

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:28:46 No.16835347 Report

Quoted By: >>16835460 >>16835487

>>16835276
And it's base speed is (barely) higher than Garchomp's. It would have been a good counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:29:15 No.16835359 Report

Quoted By: >>16835402 >>16835714

>>16834781
That's only in the western versions.

Same thing with Pawniard/Bisharp. The thing they're actually based on is too foreign so they pretend it's something else. Worked better with Glalie though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:30:35 No.16835373 Report

Quoted By: >>16835405

Why is Mr. Mime a Fairy type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:30:58 No.16835377 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835311
In terms of offense, Ghost and Fairy hit everything neutral or better except for Pyroar. Give it Thunderbolt for that and 147 more super effective coverage.

Yeah, it'd be fucking great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:31:24 No.16835383 Report

Quoted By: >>16835414

Fairy is the new "slap it onto a Pokemon to make it better" type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:32:48 No.16835402 Report

Quoted By: >>16835409

>>16835359
>The Black Knight
>Too foreign

Or do you think its exclusively based on Sentai shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:33:07 No.16835405 Report

Quoted By: >>16835449

>>16835373
>>16835373

BITCH, HE'S FABULOUS!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:33:35 No.16835409 Report

Quoted By: >>16835426 >>16835432

>>16835402
It's not based on black knights at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:33:54 No.16835414 Report

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>>16835383
Faewy/Dwagon type ;^)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:34:40 No.16835422 Report

Quoted By: >>16835436 >>16835444 >>16835454 >>16835477

>>16835070
wow

such rabbit

wow

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:35:01 No.16835426 Report

Quoted By: >>16835443 >>16835452

>>16835409
How is it not a black knight, dude?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:35:22 No.16835432 Report

Quoted By: >>16835452

>>16835409

Isn't it based off of Sentai stuff- the Power Ranger-esque things?

Also, doesn't it have a rivalry with the Ralts family or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:35:36 No.16835436 Report

Quoted By: >>16835478

>>16835422
He's talking about Azumarill

The Aqua Rabbit Pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:36:32 No.16835443 Report

Quoted By: >>16835466

>>16835426
How is it a black knight? Just as red and siver as it is black.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:36:33 No.16835444 Report

Quoted By: >>16835458 >>16835478

>>16835422
Rabbit or a habit?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:37:10 No.16835449 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835405
Yeah, fabulously nightmare-inducing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:37:19 No.16835452 Report

Quoted By: >>16835490

>>16835432
>>16835426
No, according to Bulbapedia

>Komatana may be a combination of 駒 koma (a piece in Shogi), 細切れ komagire (small pieces), and 刀 katana (sword) or 小刀 kogatana (knife).

It's based on Shogi not Chess

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:37:37 No.16835454 Report

Quoted By: >>16835478

>>16835422

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:37:45 No.16835458 Report

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>>16835444

I never noticed but Azumarril is shaped like an Egg.

And colored like an Easter Egg.

Is Azumarril the Easter Bunny?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:38:04 No.16835460 Report

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>>16835347
Seriously though, I can't believe there is not a single Fairy that could outspeed and check that damn shark at the same time. Azelf would've that a reality. But fucking Gamefreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:38:41 No.16835466 Report

Quoted By: >>16835480 >>16835491

>>16835443
It's a ruthless armored knight, Dark/Steel.

Most black knights just had armor painted black, and so red and gold would still show. The silver is the fucking blades.

What is it if not a black knight?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:40:05 No.16835477 Report

Quoted By: >>16835512

>>16835422
say what

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:40:12 No.16835478 Report

Quoted By: >>16835501 >>16835506

>>16835436
I was talking about Marill

The Aqua Mouse Pokemon

>>16835444
>>16835454

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:40:17 No.16835480 Report

Quoted By: >>16835506

>>16835466
Except the black is just accenting the red. His armor is primarily red.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:40:35 No.16835487 Report

Quoted By: >>16835494

>>16835347

And to Mega-Kanga

>Swap in
>Immune to most of the move set typically ran on Kanga
>If Sucker Punch, then lol as they can do literally nothing, baiting it with a WoW, effectively neutering
>If Crunch, WoW will make it so you can survive a hit and neuter for the rest of the match anyway.
>Only worry is being predicted on switch in with the Crunch
>Switch out if needed

That 105 Speed goes a long way, really, cause you out-speed with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:40:57 No.16835490 Report

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>>16835452
>Citing Bulbapedia

Still, that's a pretty good translation in my opinion. Accounts for differences in the Orient and the Occident without losing the theme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:41:18 No.16835491 Report

Quoted By: >>16835513

>>16835466
It's not based on Chess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:41:42 No.16835494 Report

Quoted By: >>16835573

>>16835487
Crunch isn't that much of a deal anyway, since Fairy resists Dark. It'd hurt like hell but it's only neutral.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:42:18 No.16835501 Report

Quoted By: >>16835512

>>16835478
And his argument was that the final evo finalizes the concept, and Azumarill was a rabbit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:42:40 No.16835506 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835480
Blood.

Before you cry edgy, Bisharp is literally made of edge. You still haven't told me what you think Bisharp is.

>>16835478
Dude that doesn't change the fact Azumarill is a rabbit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:43:51 No.16835512 Report

Quoted By: >>16835517 >>16835540

>>16835477
say what

>>16835501
and my argument is that they would have no reason to re-type Marill and Azurill for being moon rabbits since they aren't rabbits. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:44:06 No.16835513 Report

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>>16835491
I never said that, just that it was based on a black knight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:44:45 No.16835517 Report

Quoted By: >>16835531

>>16835512
Then say that you fucking retard instead of spamming pictures of Marill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:46:33 No.16835529 Report

Quoted By: >>16835554 >>16835565

>>16827897
cresselia is a literal fuckin moon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:46:34 No.16835531 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835517
Follow your own advice you fucking retard instead of spamming pictures of Azumarill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:47:18 No.16835536 Report

Quoted By: >>16835558 >>16844512

>>16834710
>Politoed
>Pokemon should have typings based on their lore/origin
>Let's add a typing to a Pokemon to make it related to a previously unrelated lore/origin

Yeah no. Politoed has never been about the Prince/Frog fairy tale. Adding Fairy type to make it so is just retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:47:29 No.16835540 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835512
They're not rabbits, but their bodies are in the shape of the moon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:48:35 No.16835554 Report

Quoted By: >>16835568 >>16835575 >>16835617

>>16835529
Cresselia deserves to be Fairy pretty hard.

Holy shit it doesn't even get Moonblast.

Side note, neither does Lunatone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:49:04 No.16835558 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835536
I admit it. I just wanted that little shit to be weak to poison. q-q

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:50:19 No.16835565 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835529
But Cresselia is legendary. That activates Gamefreak's "Nostalgia Sensitivity™" and makes them refuse to retype her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:50:26 No.16835568 Report

Quoted By: >>16835576

>>16835554
>Holy shit it doesn't even get Moonblast.
We don't know that yet because it's not available.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:50:58 No.16835573 Report

Quoted By: >>16835644

>>16835494

>252+ Atk Parental Bond burned Mega Kangaskhan Sucker Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mismagius: 105-124 (40 - 47.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Same numbers for Crunch, since both are 80 power, with Fairy typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:51:40 No.16835575 Report

Quoted By: >>16835588

>>16835554
Actually it does get Moonblast, one tried to use it on me in the Lumiose battle institute thing on my Greninja

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:51:42 No.16835576 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835568
Then it better fucking get it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:52:44 No.16835588 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835575
Then uh...

Good. But its not Fairy is it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:54:48 No.16835617 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835554
We don't even know Cresselia's new movepool until the next 2 days. If Uxie really gets the type though( if the PGL is lieing) I'd be cool with Cresslia's typing since they have identical stats (except HP)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:56:53 No.16835644 Report

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>>16835573
Stop, you're making the reality of a non Ghost/Fairy Mismagius that much worse.

Kornheiser !IYsWILbonQ

Kornheiser !IYsWILbonQ Mon 23 Dec 2013 08:03:31 No.16835714 Report

Quoted By: >>16838728

>>16835359
But it's Japanese name has goalie in it too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:03:35 No.16836221 Report

Quoted By:

>>16828469
At least until Sound type is introduced and they get retyped...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:05:00 No.16836228 Report

Quoted By: >>16836259

>>16828469
And Chatot and Exploud.

Also, Flying.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:09:23 No.16836259 Report

Quoted By:

>>16836228
MegaNoivern better be Sound/Dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:12:22 No.16836276 Report

Quoted By:

>>16834095

Not >>16828479 but what's wrong with that. It's a legal contraction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:18:37 No.16836322 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835316
Poison/Electric? I never considered that to be a good typing since EQ is so common and a 4x weakness to it sounds like the death of any pokemon in any tier. If it didn't get Levitate or at least magnet rise, it'd be screwed.

Although, I guess Magnezone gets by just fine, but he does have the decent niche ability magnet pull

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:22:07 No.16836345 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835096
might be a reference to the redwall book series

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 12:07:58 No.16837175 Report

Quoted By: >>16837749 >>16842806

The Fairy type was the single biggest mistake in the type chart. An Ice buff would have been enough to nerf dragons. Also new Ice Pokemon that are not shit.Other than Avalugg of course, I love it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:57:03 No.16837749 Report

Quoted By: >>16837782

>>16837175
Fairy is fine since it brought balance and buffs to poor attacking types. What they really screwed up on is the retcons. How the hell do they expect us to check Dragons packing flinch-inducing Iron Heads with these slow ass motherfuckers(and worse, Azelf who fast glass cannon and is gnome/elf based, doesn't get the type -__-)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 14:00:09 No.16837782 Report

Quoted By: >>16844561

>>16837749
>brought balance
>Nerf bug type
>Nerf dark type
>Buff fire

At least it gave poison a much needed and deserved buff

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 16:13:29 No.16838728 Report

Quoted By: >>16839329

>>16835714
No it doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 16:18:50 No.16838766 Report

Quoted By: >>16842767

I'm mad because Fairy is too good.
>1 immunity, 3 resists (one of which the very common Fighting, the others Dark and Bug who really didn't need that nerf)
>only 2 weaknesses, both of which are uncommon coverage moves (though that will change somewhat now) and with Steel one that has very limited availability
>hits 3 types SE, the very common Fighting and Dragon types

I'm at a point where pretty much every monotype would be improved by slapping Fairy as second onto it.

Kornheiser !IYsWILbonQ

Kornheiser !IYsWILbonQ Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:15:46 No.16839329 Report

Quoted By: >>16839728

>>16838728
Yes it does

Onigohri, my Japanese friend told me it means ogre goalie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:56:53 No.16839728 Report

Quoted By:

>>16839329
That's bullshit. A Japanese person would've told you that means ice oni.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 21:45:16 No.16842767 Report

Quoted By:

>>16838766
Fairy isn't as good as water, however.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 21:47:30 No.16842806 Report

Quoted By:

>>16837175
>muh fairygate
>muh ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 22:48:07 No.16843645 Report

Quoted By: >>16843915 >>16844597

>>16832744

Explain Snubbull and Granbull, then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 23:05:58 No.16843915 Report

Quoted By:

>>16843645
>it is pink
>it is feminine

it's right there in the post dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 23:44:27 No.16844512 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835536
it evolves when traded holding kings rock bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 23:46:58 No.16844561 Report

Quoted By:

>>16837782
>Ghost is now only resisted by Normal and Dark
>Dark is no longer resisted by Steel
>having a Dark-type in your team now has tremendous value

Weakness to Fairy sucks, but it's a fantastic trade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 23:48:43 No.16844597 Report

Quoted By:

>>16843645

>Snubbull
>The Fairy Pokemon

you're not very bright, are you?

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