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/vp/ Makes a game: Pokemon Sage Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:42:56 No.16828095 View View Reply Original Report

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http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=159

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Forums:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?
Current Demo of the Game(Very Old, New One Soon):
http://www.mediafire.com/?1de4t4u3yqg6z1z

Last Thread:
https://archive.foolz.us/vp/thread/16794329

we need:
>Design revisions for vectol line, phlask line, and diloweed line
>Region details & Mapping (Interiors needed!)
>Sprites
>Movepools, Stats & Abilities
>All the rest of the dex info (?)

If you have constructive ideas for revisions, post them. If you're going to complain, don't
Ideas are only as good as the person willing to execute them.
If you're working on maps, music, programs or art, please continue!

TO REMEMBER::
>Check the wiki!!! it has the answer to 90% of new questions
>Pokemon with Green Arrows are ready design wise to go in game, they can still be adjusted but your time is much better spent elsewhere.
>We have art for the entire dex, this image just only shows whats been sugid (check the wiki!)
>Spriters make original sprites! no copying GF or sizing down art!
>We are not adding Fairy Type or Mega Evolutions.

Clash's art folder(http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=336):
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/g0exdjc1rdlkg4z/dZAAdIcVGB
Also SZ's Sugi'ed art so far:
http://imgur.com/a/X0x8e/#0
PokemonOnlineGuide:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=351

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:45:20 No.16828137 Report

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Sprite Confirmation (Newest)
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8NWHTP8

Confirmation survey:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/LJ2DD3K

Route 2 Survey
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Rootoo

Foster gym TM survey
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Dat_ice

Demo Dialogue survey
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Demologue

Minor Redesign Lockdown Survey
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/XGNHNGQ

Any/Specific Elite Four Order Survey:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/E4Order

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:47:15 No.16828170 Report

Quoted By: >>16828206 >>16828229

>>16828095
>not posting the newer OP image
It's ok I got you bro

Also,
>city of MajoraZ
Punk ass faggot. Learn to curb your autism, nut up or shut up, and play team ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:47:35 No.16828179 Report

Quoted By: >>16828307

Gen /vp/ soundcloud
Worldwibe (embed)

Map dropbox:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qpvhi4014gmrlue/nQrRRK9E2u?n=192660632

Dialogue Archive (if your write dialogue, post it here please or else it will be lost forever in foolz)
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=169

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:48:32 No.16828196 Report

Quoted By: >>16828216

I wish someone would right deadlines next to the surveys.
Would probably be helpful.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:49:00 No.16828206 Report

Quoted By: >>16828345

>>16828170
Fucking jewmoot.

I see why Draiking occurs more now. The posting is fucked up and file too large. I hate this site

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:49:42 No.16828216 Report

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>>16828196
*Write

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:50:28 No.16828229 Report

Quoted By: >>16828345 >>16828363 >>16828369

>>16828170
>Punk ass faggot. Learn to curb your autism, nut up or shut up, and play team ball

You entirely missed the fucking point of that rant. I'm going to assume you are the same person that made the ball comparison last thread, so... Are you implying I don't contribute? I'm just pointing out that we should be doing things because it's the smart thing/most feasible thing/best thing to do, not ONLY because "well we have this arbitrary rule..."

>who the fuck are you to question that?
Firstly, I also sprite. Secondly, I was simply being logical: If we have the color limit in place for X reason, but we can accomplish X reason while going over the limit and making the sprite better, then there's no harm in doing so.

Again, that's not my main issue: My issue is that everybody falls back on these limits and rules and prior surveys without giving the debate a intelligent thought on WHY it was voted out, or WHY people want it in, and so on. If you don't understand the underlying issues behind a rule, you run the risk of misinterpreting it.

Also you draik'd the dex image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:54:51 No.16828307 Report

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>>16828179

https://soundcloud.com/mathias-kristoffersen-2/sets/

FTFY M8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:57:42 No.16828345 Report

Quoted By: >>16828675

>>16828229
Reading is a skill
>>16828206

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:58:52 No.16828363 Report

Quoted By: >>16828675

>>16828229
>"I also sprite"
>does not care about color count
The pixel artists community frowns upon you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:59:21 No.16828369 Report

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>>16828229
>falls back on prior surveys
Yes because they're called cornerstones of progress. I dont give a shit how intelligent it is. This is an unbreakable rule. We do not go back on prior surveys unless extreme circumstances related to how the survey was run. Fucking drop it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Dec 2013 23:59:31 No.16828374 Report

Quoted By: >>16828398 >>16828441 >>16828488 >>16828597 >>16828675

Ok, so Majora was moaning at the end of the last thread, correct? Well here's some counter arguments for Cpt. Autism.

>On the Colour Issue
We are mimicking gamefreak's style. Going over the colour limit noticeable disrupts that style (it's a big part of why some sprites look 'right' and some don't). We are also designing with the potential for a group in the future to include our mons in a romhack. Obviously, that's not priority one but little things like having a usable sprite bank straight off the table are nice. Having a clear limit also helps give a sense of unity across the sprites since many are made by different people in slightly different styles. Something as simple as a colour limit helps reduce the disparity and will improve the overall unity of the dex. It doesn't cost us anything (gamefreak made plenty of sprites within the colour limit and we've already sprited our two most colourful mons while also sticking to it).

>Regarding the Fairy thing being responded to by 'muh rules'
People asking about Fairy type are, in almost all cases, people new to the project. In those situations, it's nearly always easier to shut down discussion and debate of fairy type by simply saying 'We surveyed it and it's not happening'. The alternative is watching threads derail every few days while people debate the merits of adding a new typing. Your points are both valid but if that's what we countered the requests with then they'd be met by counter arguments. The only counter to 'muh surveys' is 'break the rules' which has a lot less traction and isn't as big a thread killer (although you're certainly trying).

Part II incoming

Nuttypea

Nuttypea Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:01:03 No.16828398 Report

Quoted By: >>16828441 >>16828599

>>16828374
I agree with Majora

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:03:18 No.16828441 Report

Quoted By: >>16828485 >>16828488 >>16828499 >>16828597 >>16828675

>>16828374
>Regarding your weird little anarchy thing
Rules matter. These rules weren't made arbitrarily. They all had purpose at their conception. In a perfect world, with a proper dev team, it might be possible to look at these rules and change them but our project is a special case. We have a revolving cast and lots of dissenting opinions. If we open up the core rules for discussion then we invite constant discussion of ALL our rules. Yes, there are times when it works against us and we're trapped by our own bureaucracy but better that than the anarchic shit going on in, say, early PokeAus. We're too far along in development to suddenly start shitting over the basic structure of that development.

>Regarding your messiah complex
Stop this. Shit like
>I was super fucking disappointed in you guys
is the sort of elitist crap that you give up the right to when you stop going anon. If you want to bash everyone involved in this project for being too fucking stupid to counter argue (even though I've already explained why 'muh rules' is the better counter to 'muh fairies') the do so anonymously. You only perpetrate your already bad reputation which makes it harder for you to contribute and harder for your good ideas to get heard. If you wanted a discussion of the rules, then you should have started one politely not posted an angry, impotent moan in which you accuse everyone but yourself of being useless.

>>16828398
spoken like a nuttypea

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:06:18 No.16828485 Report

Quoted By: >>16828524

>>16828441
>spoken like a nuttypea
No, it's: >written just like Nuttypea

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:06:25 No.16828488 Report

Quoted By: >>16828589

>>16828374
>>16828441
I couldn't have said it better myself

really though, we need to start moving
there's a reason why the 2nd demo has been pushed back this far and the repeated side arguments hurt more than help

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:06:44 No.16828499 Report

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>>16828441
This. If we go back on fairies what would stop us going back on any other survey? What determines officialness? Word from a few trips? We would be done in a month

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:07:27 No.16828524 Report

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>>16828485
My knowledge of gen /vp/ memes is incidental at best.

Pic related

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:10:44 No.16828589 Report

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>>16828488
that and gripping from lax non-producers. so many get stuck in their own niche activity then fling mud at others in other fields. if you want to discuss spriting, make 20 sprites, if you want to discuss music produce music and show what you mean. we have been set pre gen 5 and people want post gen 6. game is staying 4.5 with bit of other stuff. we can make gen 7 game next time.

but on to an issue, moves, abilities and balancing. start surveying the moves, start dealing with legendary abilities/moves. unleash the new po mod sam so we can balance test our pokemon and their stuff before we have to add our custom moves and items and then test more.(and maybe more balancing once game is done)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:11:16 No.16828597 Report

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>>16828441
>>16828374
Thanks you.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:11:26 No.16828599 Report

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>>16828398

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:15:59 No.16828675 Report

Quoted By: >>16828911

>>16828345
Oh. Well, mediafire that shit.

>>16828363
I don't care for it, but I still follow it.

>>16828374
>>16828441
>On the Colour Issue
I understand all of that, trust me. My issue with it was in specifically regarding flaire's fire mane in the old sprite. There was a sprite that was a single color over the color limit that looked much better than the version without that one color.

>Regarding the Fairy thing being responded to by 'muh rules
Thank you for understanding where am I coming from, and I suppose you are correct.

>Regarding your weird little anarchy thing
Exactly: Rules do matter; but it;s equally important that people understand why those rules are in place, and that they question those rules from time to time in order to better evaluate why it was put in place in the first place, and to famlairize themselves with why people disagree wit those rules.

>Regarding your messiah complex
I'm sorry, that's just the way I talk.

>You only perpetrate your already bad reputation which makes it harder for you to contribute and harder for your good ideas to get heard
Fair enough.

> If you wanted a discussion of the rules, then you should have started one politely not posted an angry, impotent moan in which you accuse everyone but yourself of being useless.
To be honest, I really tried hard to word that rant in a calm way. I just suck at wording shit

Anyways, as explained, my concern was that people just followed the rules blindly, but you've convinced now that that's not the case. Thank you.

Sketcher !!sfJpV0NfqCJ

Sketcher !!sfJpV0NfqCJ Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:19:04 No.16828722 Report

Quoted By: >>16828802 >>16828933

Yeah, to whomever posted that rant, with this kind of project we always need to move forward. You know why? Because every time we break a rule, people use it as an excuse to break another. You all say that it won't harm anything, but you all bring it up whenever someone else wants to break them again. It happened with renaming Xotec as well as changing Chihaha and Howlequin. The revoting of the Chayan family was brought up again and again in both of those discussions.

If we start breaking rules, it really comes down to personal opinion (how do YOU know what we should call a legitimate reason) which will turn the threads to pure shit. Because, really, there is no difference between what rules are broken, the fact is that a rule was broken. No, we should not do this because, yes we should because... Then when someone surveys it (or when they don't), a good half of the thread will be pissed and the other will be happy. We'll get a bunch of small surveys popping up on the side, none of which can be taken as official, but will serve to piss more people off.

It also prevents new people/group of people from coming in and saying "well, this is how we want it and how it should be done. Change your structure to what we want."

Also, many people brought up the fact that then there'd be balance and movepool issues. I don't know how you missed it. And anyway, the reason doesn't fucking matter; it was surveyed, for better or for worse, and we're sticking with it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:19:19 No.16828728 Report

Quoted By: >>16828752

Gonna dump some gym sister sketches

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:19:34 No.16828734 Report

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Sprites coming up with extra colors on the wiki because they were uploaded and saved from 4chan?
You know what this means?
UPLOAD YOUR OWN DAMN STUFF

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:20:32 No.16828752 Report

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>>16828728

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:20:41 No.16828756 Report

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I don't get why the school kids are wearing so little compared to everyone else in the early routes, it's jarring and sloppy looking.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:21:38 No.16828768 Report

Quoted By: >>16828792 >>16828976 >>16829132 >>16829406

>>16828752

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:21:41 No.16828769 Report

Quoted By: >>16828997 >>16829028 >>16829088

Can we replace the current protagonist art with the new one, since it's actually accurate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:22:29 No.16828786 Report

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>>16828752
These are my favourites. I love ?'s expression in particular and I think they look to be at least older than their late teens.

And they work so well as sisters as well.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:22:49 No.16828792 Report

Quoted By: >>16828823 >>16828949

>>16828768

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:23:25 No.16828802 Report

Quoted By: >>16828833 >>16828875 >>16828911

>>16828722
It was majora/jabberwock/me

How come you never get on skype anymore?

>And anyway, the reason doesn't fucking matter; it was surveyed, for better or for worse, and we're sticking with it.
See, those types of statements scare me.

>Exactly: Rules do matter; but it;s equally important that people understand why those rules are in place, and that they question those rules from time to time in order to better evaluate why it was put in place in the first place, and to familiarize themselves with why people disagree wit those rules.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:24:39 No.16828823 Report

Quoted By: >>16828851 >>16828890 >>16828920

>>16828792

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:25:20 No.16828833 Report

Quoted By: >>16828879 >>16829021

>>16828802
Majora is Raptor.

you heard it here folks.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:26:28 No.16828851 Report

Quoted By: >>16828920 >>16828935 >>16829132 >>16830496 >>16839400

>>16828823
Get arguing kiddies!

Sketcher !!sfJpV0NfqCJ

Sketcher !!sfJpV0NfqCJ Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:27:25 No.16828875 Report

Quoted By: >>16828911

>>16828802
I just told you why those rules are in place. We can easily sum it up as "It was surveyed and we don't go back on surveys". The reason why we don't put the entire explanation there is because that rule will not be changing, so debating or arguing it will serve no purpose other than to derail threads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:27:44 No.16828879 Report

Quoted By: >>16828893

>>16828833
lol no, but they are similar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:28:29 No.16828890 Report

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>>16828823
this is awful

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:28:33 No.16828893 Report

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>>16828879
yes, because they are the same person

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:29:33 No.16828911 Report

Quoted By: >>16829021

>>16828802
>>16828875
Come on guys, this was settled here, wasn't it?
>>16828675

Muh Survies is just a catch all argument that shuts down a distracting opposition. There are legitimate reasons for those decisions but a survey renders them irrelevant. If you weren't around when the issue was up for debate then that's too bad but we don't want to waste time rehashing the debate just to placate you. 'Muh Survies' is code for 'Shhhh'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:29:46 No.16828920 Report

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>>16828823
>>16828851
Put the older Purple one in the younger purple one's outfit and keep the younger orange one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:30:24 No.16828933 Report

Quoted By: >>16828956 >>16828975 >>16829074

>>16828722
Re movesets and stats, I was under the impression that playtesting was required before they could be finalized. Aqua Jet being removed was due to its OPness and the fact that it was a spam A to win strategy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:30:35 No.16828935 Report

Quoted By:

>>16828851
This is really great.

Do these guys have names yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:31:20 No.16828949 Report

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>>16828752
!
>>16828792
?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:31:42 No.16828956 Report

Quoted By: >>16828980 >>16828996

>>16828933

Sketcher !!sfJpV0NfqCJ

Sketcher !!sfJpV0NfqCJ Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:32:27 No.16828975 Report

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>>16828752
Oh, these ones are my favorite.

>>16828933
Yeah. That was a decision made for stat and movepool surveys, since it is necessary to see the movepools in practice. The surveys are just to give us a starting point for the analysis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:32:28 No.16828976 Report

Quoted By: >>16829030 >>16829031

>>16828768
What was the theme of these two again, other than the punctuation "!" "?" gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:32:44 No.16828980 Report

Quoted By: >>16829015

>>16828956
What Item?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:33:19 No.16828996 Report

Quoted By: >>16829015

>>16828956
Powerful, but it can be checked. AJ had priority, negating shit speed. Bellydrain can be checked.

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:33:22 No.16828997 Report

Quoted By: >>16829018

>>16828769
Guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:34:26 No.16829015 Report

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>>16828980
No idea

>>16828996
Hidden bility Scrappy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:34:31 No.16829018 Report

Quoted By: >>16829045

>>16828997
I'd keep it as alternate, personally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:34:43 No.16829021 Report

Quoted By: >>16829051 >>16829067

>>16828833
>I just told you why those rules are in place
I'm talking in terms of for new people, and that's only half of what I said.

You never answered me about skype

>>16828911
>'Muh Survies' is code for 'Shhhh'.
See, I get this, but I disagree on that being done too. People should be allowed to debate things, it helps people understand why people think the way they do.

Anyways, yes, this has gone on long enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:35:10 No.16829028 Report

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>>16828769
No, the male face is shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:35:22 No.16829030 Report

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>>16828976
>""?" represents the questioning spirit, a daydreamer with her head in the clouds who likes to ask sophisticated questions and riddles. "!" is a realist who sees how the brutal reality of life and is more straightforward and grounded. They are known to solve any problem, help people. Relations between the two may be different - I suggest sisters -? as younger and ! as older.

Style - monks, temples, oracles and so on. "

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:35:23 No.16829031 Report

Quoted By: >>16829132

>>16828976
! Is a stark realist who treats everyone amd everything with equal harsh truths. She will tell you you're fat instead of pleasantly chubby and will also call things for how it is.

? Is more passive and dreamer. Naively optimistic, willing to bend the truth into a more favorable angle. You arent fat, you're curvy!

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:36:20 No.16829045 Report

Quoted By: >>16829088 >>16829278

>>16829018
But it has the right poncho, and the hat isn't reversed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:36:58 No.16829051 Report

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>>16829021
>People should be allowed to debate things
It's not that there's no debating allowed. It's that the debate has occurred and a survey settled the debate once and for all. Rehashing those debates isn't productive. 'Muh survies' shuts such behaviour down. If pressed, people can produce the various reasons that were debated (as people have done for the colour limit thing) but that doesn't change the fact that it's a massive derail.

And yes, far too long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:37:41 No.16829065 Report

Quoted By: >>16829367

Re 4chan'd quality sprites
I'm (slowly) fixing overcolored sprites on the sprite wiki page (just finished Carabugs front) but I agree, upload your own shit. I could be working on other sprites right now.
Also, it doesn't take that much effort, but uploading your sprites in 96x96 is a huge help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:37:53 No.16829067 Report

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>>16829021
>should be able to debate things
Except it the details wouldn't change a god.damned.thing. The debates derail the threads and get us nowhere. So "muh surveys" is a polite way to tell them it isn't happening and to focus on something else.

Why would we talk about implementing fairies if we arent going to do them? It's a waste of time

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:38:14 No.16829074 Report

Quoted By: >>16829094 >>16829096

>>16828933
What? Show me the survey were aqua jet was removed. What the fuck, one of its nicknames even is Bellyjet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:39:07 No.16829088 Report

Quoted By: >>16829152

>>16829045
>>16828769
Burning has better faces and anatomy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:39:28 No.16829094 Report

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>>16829074
>not running BellyPunch
Do you even smogon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:39:34 No.16829096 Report

Quoted By: >>16829212 >>16829257

>>16829074
It wasn't a survey it was the people trsting it on sams PO server who said it RAPED EVERYTHING. I did a dance there with it. If you dont kill it on the turn it uses belly drum, you're fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:41:10 No.16829132 Report

Quoted By: >>16829186

>>16829031
Hmmmm...I have some ideas, then. Maybe I'll sketch something. I like the idea of "?" wearing a hood with the hair shape leaking out of it(>>16828768), while "!" has more of a brusque, blockheaded attitude(>>16828851).

No rule against mixing the best elements of both

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:42:13 No.16829152 Report

Quoted By: >>16829513

>>16829088
Yes but the design elements are still wrong; and I don't see what's wrong with the new artists anatomy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:43:31 No.16829186 Report

Quoted By: >>16829321 >>16829374

>>16829132
No hoods. Overdone for psychic types imo.

Also, no capes!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:44:45 No.16829212 Report

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>>16829096
Well just kill it on that turn then

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:46:52 No.16829257 Report

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>>16829096
Oh man. At least tell me it will be available through breeding or TM. This is the way I imagined Aguanaut for so long, Id on't want it taken awaaaaaaaaaay

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:48:07 No.16829278 Report

Quoted By: >>16829548

>>16829045
Yeah, but the current look so much better. No offense to whomever did the new ones, it's just that they have overly round and exaggerated proportions and creepy stares and aren't dynamic.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:49:42 No.16829306 Report

Quoted By: >>16829447 >>16829545 >>16829580 >>16829852

Name idea for our fighting/psychic twins.

There was a study done where a bunch of people in different cultures were shown pic related and two meaningless words. They had to assign the words to a shape. Overwhelmingly, across all cultures, people assigned the same word to the same shape.

The words were Kiki and Bouba.

I thought we could do something with those names as the study seemed to encapsulate the duality of the sisters. Needn't be directly copied.

Thoughts?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouba/kiki_effect
for anyone interested.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:50:13 No.16829321 Report

Quoted By: >>16829602

>>16829186
>Sabrina
>Will
>Tate
>Liza
>Lucian
>Caitlin
>Olympia

which of one of those Psychic specialists has a hood?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:53:05 No.16829367 Report

Quoted By: >>16829431 >>16830087 >>16830289

>>16829065
bless you.

and i am back from skiing and xmas turkey. with a new and updated list, someone other then dme better learn overworlds. (or blessed orz, but he is a superanon-anon, doesn't even post in thread but produces supergold)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:53:22 No.16829374 Report

Quoted By:

>>16829186
What I plan to sketch quick:

"?" would be the meditative, thoughtful monk who ponders constantly and tries to find the best solution, no matter how long that takes. I imagine her in sagely robes or a dress with (or without) a hood with her "?" hair drooping downwards.

"!" is imperative and prefers to take action. She finds a solution right away (even if it isn't perfect) and prefers to act on it immediately. She would wear something more like a warrior monk to better allow movement and fighting ability, her hair tied up in a prominant "!" shape (Basically a bun with one helluva huge extruding lock of hair)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:53:54 No.16829388 Report

Quoted By: >>16829431

Been gone from the project for a few weeks
what can I do to help move the demo forward?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:54:57 No.16829406 Report

Quoted By: >>16829421

>>16828768
make sure to upload them on the gym leader page on the wiki

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:55:44 No.16829421 Report

Quoted By:

>>16829406
This. Please do this so we don't have to dig through foolz later on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:56:11 No.16829431 Report

Quoted By: >>16829484

>>16829388
demo? pokemon cries? game >>16829367
or items, or survey missing moves, or make art designs for trainers, or compose music, or make some more trainer sprites since we are still missing some, make items/quest lines, mapping and mapping tiles.

pick what you think you can do best

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:57:02 No.16829447 Report

Quoted By: >>16829478

>>16829306
that would be pretty cool, but I think I would rather stick with the type pun name tradition. Maybe if you can find two names that work for both themes. Kiki sounds like Kick, which could work, maybe just make a round sounding psychic name

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:58:47 No.16829475 Report

Quoted By:

anyone have the suggested moves for Aguanaut? I want to see if anyone of them makes him even more OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:58:53 No.16829478 Report

Quoted By: >>16829543

>>16829447
Yeah, I like Kiki but something similar to Bouba that related to Psychic as well would be cool. I'll have a think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 00:59:12 No.16829484 Report

Quoted By: >>16829522

>>16829431
who in the demo is missing moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:00:35 No.16829513 Report

Quoted By: >>16829544 >>16829603

>>16829152
It isn't obnoxiously kiddie anime proportions. I mean, it's a really nice drawing, but in terms of action and proportions it doesn't really work.

Burning's look much older and much more ready to go on an adventure, as well as more flowy and dynamic. The new works as an alternate version but the current best represent our protags.

If someone could sugi Burning's art, now that would be some good protag art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:00:55 No.16829522 Report

Quoted By:

>>16829484
nobody, moves is for full game, cowatti and peblossa lines need cries. though i have heard them they were lost

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:01:48 No.16829543 Report

Quoted By:

>>16829478
Lulu is all I can think of, but it's not really psychic or questiony.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:01:49 No.16829544 Report

Quoted By:

>>16829513
I mean, it is kiddie anime proportions.Everything is super round, Sophia's legs are way too thick and short, and they both have souless eyes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:02:03 No.16829545 Report

Quoted By: >>16829727

>>16829306
The only names I've seen are Mindi(y) for Mind and Brandy(i) for Brawn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:02:14 No.16829548 Report

Quoted By: >>16829567

>>16829278
the reason they aren't dynamic is because i was trying to keep with the same style as the official art for gens 4-6

creepy stares included

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:03:18 No.16829567 Report

Quoted By: >>16829603

>>16829548
Yeah, but your proportions are still way too kiddish. We want older than the typical protag, not younger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:03:51 No.16829580 Report

Quoted By:

>>16829306
Yes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:04:35 No.16829596 Report

Quoted By: >>16829632

Turkistador is shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:04:55 No.16829602 Report

Quoted By:

>>16829321
They all have hoods. Ok they dont but it seems archetypal ya know'

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:04:57 No.16829603 Report

Quoted By: >>16829658

>>16829513
>>16829567
if everyone feels that strongly i won't mind redoing it working from burning's art

is that a good idea? i don't want shitty art ending up being final so i won't stand by it if the majority dislikes it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:06:23 No.16829632 Report

Quoted By: >>16829728

>>16829596

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:07:23 No.16829658 Report

Quoted By: >>16829688

>>16829603
Hold on a sec. I was a bit harsh sorry, really it's good art but the proportions are off. I'm going to try and warp it right.

Although I wouldn't mind you sugi-ing Burning's as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:09:06 No.16829688 Report

Quoted By:

>>16829658
Nah it's alright. When you're an artist harsh critique is normal to come across by.

that being said, I probably won't work on it soon, since i'm busy redoing some trainer sprites

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:10:47 No.16829727 Report

Quoted By:

>>16829545
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?s=42460be520f1ba7385983c70a3a2cfa2&showtopic=311&view=getnewpost

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:10:47 No.16829728 Report

Quoted By:

>>16829632

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:17:41 No.16829852 Report

Quoted By: >>16829888 >>16829893

>>16829306
Kiki --> Kick
Bouba --> Buddha

I can dig the headcannon I just made

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:18:00 No.16829854 Report

Quoted By: >>16829872 >>16829916

Cries are being taken care of by the music guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:18:58 No.16829872 Report

Quoted By: >>16829930

>>16829854
that's great

i actually really dig the cries. a few of them just need some fine tuning

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:19:53 No.16829888 Report

Quoted By:

>>16829852
...
...
...
I'm okay with this
Post it in the thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:20:04 No.16829893 Report

Quoted By: >>16830191

>>16829852
I can dig it.

Bouba pronounced like Buddha but with a D?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:20:39 No.16829903 Report

Quoted By: >>16829983

So, does Aguanaut get Aqua Jet or not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:21:39 No.16829916 Report

Quoted By: >>16829995

>>16829854
yes but we are short 4 for demo, and all you need to become music guy is to make sound effects/cries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:21:54 No.16829920 Report

Quoted By:

So why are people fapping themselves over sturdy indrolith? It's so slow that if you switch into an attack, it won't even be able to touch the other mon before it's dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:22:30 No.16829930 Report

Quoted By: >>16829995

>>16829872

Yeah there's a few lines left to do for the demo. I did a few of them already, but I've been really busy past few days with other music work so I haven't been able to get them done. Hopefully I can find some time to do them in between my other stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:25:29 No.16829983 Report

Quoted By:

>>16829903
It does, for now. It needs a survey since so many people are diehard about it having it that some people can't just decide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:26:23 No.16829995 Report

Quoted By:

>>16829916

I already am one of them, why I haven't got them done yet is explained here. >>16829930

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:30:02 No.16830060 Report

Quoted By:

>bellyjet being a problem when you can just have a galebird in your team

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:31:19 No.16830087 Report

Quoted By:

>>16829367
shit... noone uploaded mimepooch backsprite?
Because 2 versions were done, I only saved one though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:33:56 No.16830131 Report

Quoted By: >>16830204 >>16830229

im pretty sure new phantern sprite and pompadour line backsprites have an extra color that shouldn't be there

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:37:30 No.16830191 Report

Quoted By: >>16830240

>>16829893
you mean like Buddha but with a B

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:38:30 No.16830204 Report

Quoted By:

>>16830131
pompagoon with the white background does have over, but it seems to be fixed by the image above it.
Other than that they're fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:40:03 No.16830229 Report

Quoted By:

>>16830131
new phantern is fine, lantern on the other hand has colour error

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:40:59 No.16830240 Report

Quoted By:

>>16830191
Sigh. Yes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:44:16 No.16830289 Report

Quoted By: >>16830308 >>16830432 >>16830822

>>16829367
Magowl icon? How does it look? The colors are as close as I could get with the icon color palette, so that's the reason for the dark gray.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:45:30 No.16830308 Report

Quoted By: >>16830347

>>16830289
Pretty nice. It can use colors brighter than the sprite art though if it would look better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:48:02 No.16830347 Report

Quoted By:

>>16830308
Unfortunately the only other brighter colors close to the colors used there are either light blues or white, both of which look more wrong than the current choices.

If someone is able to figure it out though that'd be awesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:55:37 No.16830425 Report

Quoted By: >>16830444 >>16830471 >>16831105

I am going to add the proposed sketches of the psy/fig leaders to the wiki.
Is anyone against this and does anyone have more that are not in this thread?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:56:11 No.16830432 Report

Quoted By:

>>16830289
not bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:56:54 No.16830444 Report

Quoted By: >>16830463

>>16830425
please do, I started to but chrome had a hissy fit and I gave up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:58:06 No.16830463 Report

Quoted By: >>16830496 >>16830666

>>16830444
Alright will do.

Again, if there are any not in this thread, which I know there are, please post them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 01:58:33 No.16830471 Report

Quoted By: >>16830507

>>16830425
it's what they are for. question is does someone want gym leader pages? or gym/gym leader pages since we have route pages?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:00:00 No.16830496 Report

Quoted By: >>16830509

>>16830463
I dumped all the ones I had, minus the version of
>>16828851
that had the stupid looking tits

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:00:56 No.16830507 Report

Quoted By:

>>16830471
Well the gym leaders have slideshows to show their proposed designs.
I don't know if we really need anything other than that.
I know it was brought up a while ago to make a fan art section, but I think that was mainly for mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:01:09 No.16830509 Report

Quoted By: >>16830542 >>16830574

>>16830496
think the purpose of tits was to age gym leaders older then our protags

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:03:50 No.16830542 Report

Quoted By: >>16830568

>>16830509
fair, but there are better ways of doing it,
>>16828752
look in their 20s without having massive cow tits

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:05:56 No.16830568 Report

Quoted By:

>>16830542
yeah just an idea i want to enforce, i always felt child gym leaders kinda dumb in pokemon, our game has young teen protags, adult gym leaders and trainers of all ages. makes it look like being a gym leader is significant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:06:20 No.16830574 Report

Quoted By:

>>16830509
But... it didn't work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:13:00 No.16830666 Report

Quoted By:

>>16830463
Alright I have put all the ones that I have seen recently that are colored in.
I don't know if people want there to be non-colored or WIP ones on there or not.
If so, just post them here or post a link or whatever; I don't mind saving them.

That goes for any proposed leader/e4 too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:25:55 No.16830822 Report

Quoted By:

>>16830289
Aw yis

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:26:42 No.16830837 Report

Quoted By: >>16830863 >>16830866

Chillnobyl is the most retarded thing I have ever seen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:28:37 No.16830863 Report

Quoted By: >>16830880 >>16830902 >>16831056

>>16830837
you should probably invest in a mirror then

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:28:53 No.16830866 Report

Quoted By: >>16830880 >>16830902 >>16831056

>>16830837
Do they not have mirrors where you live?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:29:56 No.16830880 Report

Quoted By: >>16830901 >>16831252

>>16830863
>>16830866

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:30:58 No.16830901 Report

Quoted By:

>>16830880
i have no idea what emotion this is

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:31:03 No.16830902 Report

Quoted By: >>16831252

>>16830863
>>16830866

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:40:57 No.16831056 Report

Quoted By: >>16831252

>>16830863
>>16830866

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:43:51 No.16831094 Report

Quoted By:

hhahahaha why am i laughing so hard hahahahah

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:45:06 No.16831105 Report

Quoted By: >>16831115 >>16831119 >>16831155 >>16831164

>>16830425
hey while you're at it, dont forget the propoed female shaman

i didn't save it but it was god tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:45:56 No.16831115 Report

Quoted By: >>16831125

>>16831105
Do they need to be old?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:46:10 No.16831119 Report

Quoted By:

>>16831105
I will see if I can find it on foolz.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:46:42 No.16831125 Report

Quoted By:

>>16831115
well in my preference

yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:49:39 No.16831155 Report

Quoted By:

>>16831105
Aw yeah, godtier design. Better win.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:50:13 No.16831164 Report

Quoted By: >>16831292

>>16831105
Ok I found it and put it on.
Again, I don't know if people don't care if there are non-colored/WIP's on the wiki.
But if people do mind, then she could use some color.

captcha: Elongool spiritual

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:55:05 No.16831252 Report

Quoted By:

>>16830880
>>16830902
>>16831056

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:56:03 No.16831273 Report

Quoted By: >>16831295 >>16831315 >>16837351

Tried to edit this. New one is on the right. Thoughts? Should I keep the hunched back?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:57:00 No.16831292 Report

Quoted By:

>>16831164
Awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:57:11 No.16831295 Report

Quoted By: >>16831609

>>16831273
The ears look crooked according to where they stem off the head.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:58:11 No.16831315 Report

Quoted By: >>16831337

>>16831273
....if you turned that into a gif... would it be humping the ground?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 02:59:24 No.16831337 Report

Quoted By: >>16831389

>>16831315
probably

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:02:02 No.16831381 Report

Quoted By: >>16831745 >>16831800

Male
Female
Male
Male
Female/Female
Female
Male

If female Shaman, male champ. Correct?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:02:31 No.16831389 Report

Quoted By: >>16831420 >>16831635

>>16831337

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:04:35 No.16831420 Report

Quoted By:

>>16831389

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:15:22 No.16831609 Report

Quoted By: >>16831631 >>16831671

>>16831295
Checked the sugi on its wiki page. Is this more accurate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:16:52 No.16831631 Report

Quoted By:

>>16831609
Also why am I saving these as hoppanero and not peppit smh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:16:55 No.16831635 Report

Quoted By:

>>16831389
Jeez Peppit you're such a Luan !

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:19:37 No.16831671 Report

Quoted By: >>16831715

>>16831609
I have no idea what I'm looking at, make sure you label which one is the one you're working on etc.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:22:20 No.16831715 Report

Quoted By: >>16831782

>>16831671

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:25:49 No.16831745 Report

Quoted By:

>>16831381
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:27:04 No.16831782 Report

Quoted By:

>>16831715
Ah, well in that case then yes I like what you've done with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:28:19 No.16831800 Report

Quoted By: >>16831823

>>16831381
what kind of sexist bullshit are you trying to pull

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:29:22 No.16831823 Report

Quoted By: >>16831838 >>16831842 >>16831951

>>16831800
5 female gym leaders
4 male ones

ergo, male chump

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:30:08 No.16831838 Report

Quoted By:

>>16831823
nigga don't reply to bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:30:18 No.16831842 Report

Quoted By: >>16831870

>>16831823
lmfao

are you serious

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:32:28 No.16831870 Report

Quoted By: >>16831891

>>16831842
semi. It's not like I'll lose sleep over it but it would certainly make me happy.

Besides, feels like ages since we had a male chimp. Alder was forever ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:33:45 No.16831891 Report

Quoted By: >>16831952

>>16831870
alright alright i'll see your point
but the female champ is total baller

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:38:11 No.16831951 Report

Quoted By: >>16832005 >>16832011 >>16832035

>>16831823
>Oh gosh now women are in the majority and I'm in the minority heaven forbid that ever happens
>Also the reverse is never ever true in any videogames, nope
How does it feel, anon?

The fighting/psychic gym leaders count as one and you failed to count the E4 members as well.

And if you want to go there, you also failed to account for any other important characters, such as Mangrove, Northington, Sequoya, the admins if we include them, and whatever other important NPCs we have.

And there are no bound genders except for Foster and the sisters IIRC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:38:11 No.16831952 Report

Quoted By: >>16831971

>>16831891
The old military lady? I'm not sold at all tbh.

But then I'm a sucker for pretty-boy champs (Wallace, Steven and Green, oh my)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:39:22 No.16831971 Report

Quoted By: >>16832005

>>16831952
now that i think about it, we don't really have many pretty boy npcs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:41:46 No.16832005 Report

Quoted By: >>16832082

>>16831951
>he thinks this has anything to do with gender
Mate, this is 'muh patterns' plain and simple.

No need to get so worked up.

Figh/psy are definitely two separate characters but I'll give you the 'no bound gender' thing. That said, it's pretty clear which way the consensus is leaning for each one.

>>16831971
RIP Sean

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:41:47 No.16832007 Report

Quoted By: >>16832025

how do you like my naturalists?

i thought the old one was pretty ugly so i tried to make him a little more colorful

also a female naturalist because why not

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:42:04 No.16832011 Report

Quoted By: >>16832029 >>16832046 >>16832105

>>16831951
I still want the daft punk reverse trap erace

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:42:48 No.16832025 Report

Quoted By: >>16832044 >>16832072

>>16832007
ahg i keep forgetting my images

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:43:07 No.16832029 Report

Quoted By: >>16832046

>>16832011
*... admin

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:43:37 No.16832035 Report

Quoted By:

>>16831951
And Cameron but yes.
Plus who really cares that there hasn't been a male champ since Alder?
There have also been at least 5 male champs and only 3 females.
Also, does it really matter that much about the real games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:44:10 No.16832044 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832025
nice start

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:44:16 No.16832046 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832029
>>16832011
now all i can imagine is an erace dressed as a female version of daft punk

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:45:48 No.16832072 Report

Quoted By: >>16832087

>>16832025
Those pants have no outline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:46:31 No.16832082 Report

Quoted By: >>16832147 >>16836279

>>16832005
GF either has a female 3:5 male ratio or a 4:4 ratio. Why doing a 3 male:5 female ratio is bad is beyond me.

Also, a higher female gym leader and champion ratio is even official in gen VI. Tadah, muh patterns my ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:47:06 No.16832087 Report

Quoted By: >>16832109

>>16832072
i know
i erased them from the previous sprite because the legs were too think
i aint done bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:47:53 No.16832105 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832011
I think the only suggestion for the Erace admin has been the mystery gender.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:48:06 No.16832109 Report

Quoted By: >>16832135

>>16832087
it's not a recolour, is it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:49:50 No.16832135 Report

Quoted By: >>16832146

>>16832109
it was taken from the wiki
and it was pretty shitty

see image

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:50:23 No.16832146 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832135
alright, cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:50:31 No.16832147 Report

Quoted By: >>16832282

>>16832082
muh internal patterns not muh gf patterns. Symmatry is beauty and all that. If we take the total league collective, I'd prefer to be able to neatly divide them into men and women.

As I said before, it's not essential, I'm not saying the alternative is bad and I'm not insisting we do things my way. I'm just pointing out that, if it comes down to male versus female champ concepts, I hope the male one wins out.

You're making too big a deal out of this one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 03:59:53 No.16832282 Report

Quoted By: >>16832331 >>16832407

>>16832147
I was pissed because it's so hard to get people to start designing (or even talking about designing) a variety of female characters, yet the moment there is an imbalance in male:female gym leaders (not even overall characters) someone pipes up. You don't understand how tired I am of the all the bullshit and the gross imbalance of female:male characters in videogames, and then what roles they all play (which is 95% of the time either clerk/healer/womanly touch because they need to, looks/love interest, or object/thing to protect).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:02:49 No.16832331 Report

Quoted By: >>16832369 >>16832466

>>16832282
for me the fucked up beauty standards and shit aren't a big issue in terms of political correctness.

i personally just care about having interesting and colorful characters. and sluts in stupid clothes are rarely interesting characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:03:00 No.16832334 Report

Quoted By: >>16832466

Oh god, is Anita Sarkeesian working on this?

it's not that big of deal, both of you calm your tits

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:05:22 No.16832369 Report

Quoted By: >>16832432

>>16832331
>sluts in stupid clothes

disregarding that, it's a shame most of the fem pokemon characters aren't interesting because most of them fall into the same archetypes

though pokemon characters in general dont really get any development anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:07:15 No.16832407 Report

Quoted By: >>16832441 >>16832466 >>16832473

>>16832282
It had nothing to do with gender. Before, when the shaman was generally accepted as male, I was all for a female chump.

I thought we had a good chunk of interesting (and diverse) women so far. Spunky Sofia, cynical Sequoia, stoic Steel Worker, brash Figher, dreamy Psychic and exuberant Fireworks Girl. Add in elderly mystic and a couple of E4 members (quietly nerdy Tess for Electric and maybe Sandra for Ground) and that's a decent set without even touching on the Evil Team, side characters etc. We have at least a mother to characterise yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:08:25 No.16832432 Report

Quoted By: >>16832455

>>16832369
contrived characters to be unboring, men aren't boring if they are something. welcome to humanity your job or your beauty be damned if you get characterized by anything else.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:09:13 No.16832441 Report

Quoted By: >>16832471

>>16832407
the old lady shaman does come a little too close to the female champ for me

and i love the female champ more than anything

so i'd rather a male shaman

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:09:29 No.16832450 Report

Quoted By: >>16832467 >>16832573

On subject of erace admin, whether it be reverse trap, unknown or whatever:

Androgynous characters are easy as sit to design

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:09:46 No.16832455 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832432
what are you trying to say

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:10:27 No.16832466 Report

Quoted By: >>16832514 >>16832541

>>16832334
No, now that I understand that it was for a personal reason and not because "now there are less men then women", it's fine.

And no, I'm just a random anon. Being pissed at female representation in video games isn't limited to one person.

>>16832331
We can have those characters. The issue is when 95% of female characters are those characters. Even what people generally consider to be strong characters like Elizabeth and Ellie, while they are interesting, fall under the category of clerk/helper and to be protected. Females are rarely the protectors, or on their own as an important character or protagonist.
And then, if you look at gender ratios, the only game with more women than men would be Portal, and that shouldn't even count. None of them approach equal.

>>16832407
The proposed designs aren't, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:10:33 No.16832467 Report

Quoted By: >>16832478

>>16832450
the midriff in general just seems wholly inappropriate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:10:46 No.16832471 Report

Quoted By: >>16832502

>>16832441
>no more than 1 woman can be old at the same time

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:10:54 No.16832473 Report

Quoted By: >>16832491 >>16832492 >>16832521 >>16837273

>>16832407
Am I fat?

Sofia
>No way! You're gorgeous, /I'M/ fat!

Sequoia
>Let's just say I never knew Snorlax was native to Urobos

Steel Worker
>I decline comment

Fighter
>Yes

Psychic
>Nah, you're more, like, curvy. I love your figure.

Fireworks
>WHAT?! Babe, what are you chatting about? Did someone say something to you? I'll kill him!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:11:24 No.16832478 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832467
exactly

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:12:35 No.16832491 Report

Quoted By: >>16832506

>>16832473
>Sequoia
10/10 make this official please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:12:42 No.16832492 Report

Quoted By: >>16832521

>>16832473
i think our female characters are pretty good

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:13:32 No.16832502 Report

Quoted By: >>16832523

>>16832471
it's not about them being female or old. it's about making them standout in ways besides their demographic.

we could just make the shaman androgynous also. it wears a mask after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:13:42 No.16832506 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832491
some how we get a ferriswheel
and get her to say this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:14:10 No.16832514 Report

Quoted By: >>16832545 >>16832847 >>16832925

>>16832466
>None of them approach equal.
FFXIII

A terrible game but certainly a diverse one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:14:37 No.16832521 Report

Quoted By: >>16832545 >>16832581

>>16832492
some of them are.

>>16832473
the fighting and psychic girls don't have anywhere near enough personality to be included in this little thing. their designs are pretty weak atm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:14:42 No.16832523 Report

Quoted By: >>16832555

>>16832502
im all for having more androgs in the game
it gives more room for fan interpretation

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:15:38 No.16832537 Report

Quoted By: >>16832569 >>16832622

People who care about a character's gender just to fill an arbitrary number should put more thought into character development. Gender doesn't necessitate anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:16:05 No.16832541 Report

Quoted By: >>16832602

>>16832466
>The proposed designs aren't, though.
A fair point. I love Sequoia and Sofia's designs. I want a really butch steel worker partly to contrast the twins designs. Fireworks girl needs a look at. Making her scrappy and a bit tomboyish might distance her from the twins who go the conventional pokegirl route.

Sadly, I'm no artist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:16:16 No.16832545 Report

Quoted By: >>16832648 >>16832673

>>16832514
I was unaware. Keep 'em coming.

>>16832521
There are some very good suggested designs for the sisters. As well, personality is separate from design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:17:00 No.16832555 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832523
Northington's female assistant being absent whenever the erace admin is present is my favorite for fancannons

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:17:16 No.16832557 Report

Quoted By:

Before I log off for the night, if there are any more gym leader art/sketches you want added to the wiki?
I know there are some Bug designs, but I can't really handle going through so many foolz to try and find them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:18:16 No.16832569 Report

Quoted By: >>16832662

>>16832537
it's just all too easy for a bland character to gain favor for reasons of sexual objectivity.

essentially people often vote yes on hot chicks because they are hot. same reason hot chicks sometimes get hired instead of other people who are equally or more qualified.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:18:26 No.16832573 Report

Quoted By: >>16832671

>>16832450
>queerbait
no thanks buddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:19:03 No.16832581 Report

Quoted By: >>16832648

>>16832521
I feel like the personality is well developed (more so than fireworks girl tbh).

One is direct, driven and ambitious. The other is dreamy, distracted and peaceful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:19:53 No.16832587 Report

Quoted By: >>16832659

>ITT: We get invaded by SJW from tumblr

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:20:38 No.16832602 Report

Quoted By: >>16834451

>>16832541
I mean, I think the fireworks girl could fit the younger, spunkier girl type that is so popular. Maybe Sandara as well, if she's in. The iron worker shouldn't be curvy and should be well-muscled and tough and older (but it doesn't mean that she's ugly, just that she's not 18 year old coquettishly pretty). There's one design of the fighting and psychic sisters that place them in their mid-20s and works fantastic. Sophia and Sequoia have excellent designs. I think the designs for Tess on the wiki work very well.

We have an excellend design for the champion, if she's in, and possibly the female shaman.

So basically the only designs we need to work on would be the iron worker and maybe the sisters, depending on what wins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:22:14 No.16832622 Report

Quoted By: >>16832639 >>16832662

>>16832537
>Gender doesn't necessitate anything
If, as you rightly suggest, gender doesn't necessitate anything then we SHOULD be able to arbitrarily decide the distribution of genders without consideration for character.

>x is male, y is female
>x is an elderly person who runs a daycare for local kids
>y is a steel worker who runs a large industrial centre

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:23:05 No.16832639 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832622
>y is female
nigga what are you even doing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:23:36 No.16832648 Report

Quoted By: >>16832658 >>16832736

>>16832545
>personality is separate from design.
what. find me a cartoon character whose personality isn't reflected in their appearance. there are some examples where a characters look is in direct contrast to their personality, which is done for comedic effect, but usually the two go together.

>>16832581
>One is direct, driven and ambitious. The other is dreamy, distracted and peaceful.
imo these are more descriptions of the types they use. it's a bit too easy to just allow a gym leaders type to completely determine their personality. i realize gf does this quite a bit but i'm just not crazy about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:24:23 No.16832658 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832648
Personality is suggested through design, yes, but isn't totally dependent on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:24:30 No.16832659 Report

Quoted By: >>16832672 >>16832751

>>16832587
jesus christ
why can't we have a debate where we can discuss gender without getting accused of being a "social justice warrior"
Like that's even a bad thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:24:39 No.16832662 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832569
I disagree. Sandra was well liked but was not voted official. People inherently wanted a bulkier Steel gym leader. I really don't think that it applies here when we have full surveys talking about their personality and what purpose they're serving.

>>16832622
Sure, I don't give a shit. I don't care about a male or female shaman.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:25:19 No.16832671 Report

Quoted By: >>16832960 >>16837547

>>16832573
but what if?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:25:22 No.16832672 Report

Quoted By: >>16832685

>>16832659
>Like that's even a bad thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:25:23 No.16832673 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832545
>Keep 'em coming
FFX-2 is all about the ladies. The Longest Journey and Beyond Good and Evil are other examples of female leads.

I know there aren't a lot (especially relatively) but they do exist. It's not all doom and gloom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:26:25 No.16832685 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832672
you didn't give a reason
but that's alright, i don't want to get into this conversation right now

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:28:51 No.16832715 Report

Quoted By: >>16832739 >>16832753 >>16835534

I gotta say, last time I looked at this project was about half a year ago, and my mouth slowly filled with vomit as I perused your Pokedex.

Now, when I look at the OP, everything looks... pretty cool. I might even go so far as to saw I like a lot of those Pokemon. Keep up the good work, guys! I hope I'll get to play it before middle age!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:30:10 No.16832736 Report

Quoted By: >>16832798

>>16832648
>imo these are more descriptions of the types they use
I think the twins are peculiar because they're designed as a pair. So the complexity comes from their duality whereas other characters have a tendancy to stand on their own a bit better. This isn't a bad thing (the characters aren't really going to have much story where they aren't together) but it does make them a bit harder to define properly.

I disagree that those are generic type descriptions though. Psychic has been equally portrayed as lazy dreamers (Munna), manipulative sneaks (Malamar) and wise veterans (Alakazam). That's such a broad set of character archtypes that we'd be hard pressed to create a character who didn't align with some aspect of the type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:30:32 No.16832739 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832715
the exact same sentiments when i decided to join the project
I'm so glad it's where it is today

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:31:12 No.16832751 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832659
>Like that's even a bad thing?
SJW are well meaning but awful people.

A debate about gender has nothing to do with SJW though.

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:31:16 No.16832753 Report

Quoted By: >>16832772

>>16832715
The demo is actually coming soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:32:22 No.16832772 Report

Quoted By: >>16832800 >>16832806

>>16832753
Soon™

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:33:42 No.16832791 Report

Quoted By:

what if ricardo rode a motercycle

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:34:05 No.16832798 Report

Quoted By: >>16832858 >>16832872

>>16832736
>manipulative sneaks (Malamar)
malamar is also dark type.

i just feel like in order to flesh out the fighting/psychic sisters we need to figure out how they get along. they are sisters and the relationship between them should be an important way which we figure out how they act.

do they get along? do they compete? do they resent each other? why do they fight as a pair?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:34:08 No.16832800 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832772
it's true! pawter said so yesterday!

Pawter !RROBpqntz.

Pawter !RROBpqntz. Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:34:49 No.16832806 Report

Quoted By: >>16832951 >>16836708 >>16837007 >>16837099 >>16839523

>>16832772
Soon. I mean it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:36:45 No.16832847 Report

Quoted By: >>16832901 >>16832925

>>16832514
>terrible
You must have been being booty blasted while playing
It's honesty one of the best game I've played.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:37:27 No.16832858 Report

Quoted By: >>16832893

>>16832798
>manipulative sneaks (Hypno)

And yeah, defining their relationship is a good idea. I kinda see it as Fighting sister (Kiki?) forces herself to make a real effort with Psychic sister. The latter is largely oblivious to the differences between them. It would mostly be played for comedy of course.

And I've always thought they should fight as a pair. It defeats the point of a dual gym if they don't double battle you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:38:04 No.16832872 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832798
I think a lot of the consensus on their relationship is the ! sister sees the world as serious and clean cut while the ? sister is optimistic and questioning. This makes the ! sister angry because her endless optimism is annoying, but it's not like they hate each other or anything, they get along well and fight in the gym together.

? often talking in questions and ! in exclamations would be a cool little flavour to their conversations with/ in the presence of the player

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:39:34 No.16832893 Report

Quoted By: >>16832927 >>16832962

>>16832858
Why would they not dual battle you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:39:54 No.16832901 Report

Quoted By: >>16832925 >>16833006

>>16832847
>It's honesty one of the best game I've played.
Have you played any other gmes?

No but in all seriousness, it might well be 'good' compared to contemporary games but as a continuation of the FF series, it's an awful misstep. It cuts out all the exploration and excitement and replaces it with endless, repetitive fighting in corridors. It opened up a bit near the end but too little, too late imo.

FFVI 4 Lyfe

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:40:55 No.16832925 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832901
>>16832847
>>16832514

>>>/v/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:40:56 No.16832927 Report

Quoted By: >>16832946

>>16832893
It was discussed before and some smoglords wanted you to fight each sister separately then have a double battle or some such nonsense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:41:58 No.16832946 Report

Quoted By: >>16832957 >>16833025

>>16832927
That sounds retarded.
They didn't get their way did they?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:42:19 No.16832951 Report

Quoted By: >>16839433

>>16832806
aw yis

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:42:48 No.16832957 Report

Quoted By: >>16833025

>>16832946
I hope not. Didn't see the fallout and haven't heard mention of it since.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:42:56 No.16832960 Report

Quoted By: >>16833025 >>16833045 >>16833214

>>16832671
Oh, I love that gif.

I'll post all the admin-related stuff I have.

Also, what's happening with Pokeman plot or game-wise? Haven't seen him in a long while.

Headcanon is that he's either a more exaggerated Looker or has a rivalry with either Erace admin or Ricardo. But we all know what happens to headcanon.

Also, Sequoia has a Warquila named Sarah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:43:05 No.16832962 Report

Quoted By: >>16833002 >>16833022

>>16832893
just because they are sisters doesn't mean they would. i'm pretty sure all siblings in the pokemon world don't fight together. either they prefer fighting together or they can't fight apart. or maybe their battles always end in ties and when it came time to decide who the new gym leader would be they ended up both getting the title.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:45:26 No.16833002 Report

Quoted By: >>16833058 >>16833221

>>16832962
3 Gym leader fights for the same badge is a fucking retarded idea.
Korrina

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:45:33 No.16833006 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832901
Eh I don't play as many games as I used to. Also I haven't played many FF to compare it with to be completely honest. The graphics and landscaping is so amazing though. I guess it's not one of the best games I've played, but for sure the most beautiful. Vanille is my fucking waifu for life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:46:32 No.16833022 Report

Quoted By: >>16833058

>>16832962
but [headcannon] they're nuns that are looking after a temple and since they're both there and don't really leave they practice together

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:46:42 No.16833025 Report

Quoted By: >>16833045 >>16833061 >>16833064 >>16833096

>>16832946
>>16832957
nobody ever really wanted them to be seperate. the idea was you had to find them, and they were in separate places and then you would fight them together once they reunited.

>smoglords
what is this shitposting

>>16832960
>Also, what's happening with Pokeman plot or game-wise? Haven't seen him in a long while.
he is ridiculous. if we try and work out our plot in a natural way he won't likely have much of a part. we could force him in but nobody wants to go through that right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:47:44 No.16833045 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832960
>>16833025
post E4 master level trainer

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:48:41 No.16833058 Report

Quoted By:

>>16833002
>3 Gym leader fights for the same badge is a fucking retarded idea.
did somebody suggest that?

>>16833022
just being in the same place doesn't make you a gym leader though. if they had a third sister would it be a triple battle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:48:51 No.16833061 Report

Quoted By: >>16833102 >>16833147

>>16833025
>nobody ever really wanted them to be seperate
Yes they did. There was extensive arguing and a survey was almost held.

>shitposting
No it is not. There's a small but vocal subset of gen /vp/ that wants our game to be rape-inducingly difficult.

>MAX EV FOSTER
was a common cry a while back

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:49:03 No.16833064 Report

Quoted By:

>>16833025
I think he meant it like smogon + shitlord?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:51:21 No.16833096 Report

Quoted By: >>16833136 >>16833174

>>16833025
He doesn't have to be plot related at all. Just set up a scene by having a schoolgirl be attacked by some angry koberi on some random route. When you approach Pokeman comes running from behind and asks you if you can help for the force of good. You the. Double battle some mons with him and he leaves forever. Either that or he helps you at a grunt fort against the evil team. I always just liked the idea of fighting with him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:51:40 No.16833102 Report

Quoted By: >>16833153 >>16833165

>>16833061
To be honest, the gyms SHOULD be hard.
But I don't know about it needing to be "fuckyoustrayacunt" hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:53:40 No.16833136 Report

Quoted By:

>>16833096
>leaves forever
Please

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:54:01 No.16833147 Report

Quoted By: >>16833185

>>16833061
>MAX EV FOSTER
>was a common cry a while back
at low levels evs don't really do much. do you know how they work?

>There's a small but vocal subset of gen /vp/ that wants our game to be rape-inducingly difficult.
from the beginning the game was supposed to be significantly harder than gamefreak games. nobody has ever wanted it to be dwarf fortress impossible. x and y were so easy it almost got boring though. if you turn the exp share on you basically don't have to pay attention while playing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:54:28 No.16833153 Report

Quoted By:

>>16833102
>Arrive at E4
>First battle
>Approach opponent
"fuckyoustrayacunt"
>Battle starts

then we make some joke about pokeaus

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:55:15 No.16833165 Report

Quoted By: >>16833207

>>16833102
I'm really curious as to how levelling is going to work. We should probably take a couple of runthroughs to see what the average pokemon is like after battling through the route/dungeon, and base the gym leaders' levels off of that. Maybe we could also reduce the amount of exp they give if there are issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:55:50 No.16833174 Report

Quoted By:

>>16833096
so...just have him forced into the game for no reason? sounds gr8 m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:56:49 No.16833185 Report

Quoted By: >>16833302 >>16833323

>>16833147
>do you know how they work?
Max evs in the first gym is retarded hard and you know it.

I never said
>le gamefreak dififculty plox
Of course we're ramping up the difficulty from the regular games but there is a broad spectrum on which to play. We do not have to choose between 'here, have ten masterballs and a spare Quetzar' or 'I will rape your anus with a rusty Magnitogre'. We can be harder without being stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:58:30 No.16833207 Report

Quoted By:

>>16833165
yeah. the difficulty will naturally set itself through beta testing. the only thing that matters is fun. if it's so easy that it isn't fun we will make it harder. if it is so hard that it isn't fun we will make it easier.

gamefreak games are often almost too easy. we're just trying to make them more fun. the reason people nuzlocke is because they can't get the challenging experience that they want from gamefreak games.

if people want to play a really easy game maybe we will invent some cheat codes so they don't have to ever risk losing a fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:58:55 No.16833214 Report

Quoted By: >>16833256 >>16836393

>>16832960
what if he is a post game concept?

kind of like looker's quests except you just happen to find pokeman in random areas and help him fight the bad guys in a toku show way

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:59:55 No.16833221 Report

Quoted By: >>16833277

>>16833002
didn't they do that with dent, corn, and chilli

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:01:00 No.16833239 Report

Quoted By: >>16833285 >>16833302

Why don't we just include a hard mode like they did with bw2?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:01:53 No.16833256 Report

Quoted By:

>>16833214
Or perhaps he should be our Deus Ex Machina guy whenever it pops up, if we need it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:03:19 No.16833277 Report

Quoted By:

>>16833221
Not at all. You fight one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:04:22 No.16833285 Report

Quoted By: >>16833299

>>16833239
You can code it for us

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:05:30 No.16833299 Report

Quoted By: >>16833393

>>16833285
separate exe?
i mean it's extra effort so i understand why you wouldn't want to implement it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:05:57 No.16833302 Report

Quoted By:

>>16833185
>>16833185
>Max evs in the first gym is retarded hard and you know it.

so you don't understand how evs work?

at level 12-14 max evs give maybe 10 stat points maximum. probably more like 7 or 8. giving things evs is a better way to incrementally increase difficulty instead of just increasing the levels of the pokemon.

>>16833239
we should have a baby mode for people who can't handle anything more difficult than a childrens game.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:08:17 No.16833323 Report

Quoted By:

>>16833185
>Max evs in the first gym is retarded hard and you know it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:14:24 No.16833393 Report

Quoted By: >>16833407

>>16833299
I was being serious. You could make it harder just by lowering the rate of exp gain. That would require messing with the base code but it can be done by someone committed enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:15:26 No.16833407 Report

Quoted By: >>16833458 >>16833514 >>16833786

>>16833393
>making leveling up take longer means it's harder
Please don't design games for a living.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:19:52 No.16833458 Report

Quoted By: >>16833482 >>16833483 >>16833497

>>16833407
Hey, that's what the hardcore crowd were calling for before. They wanted a chump with level 100 teams and everything to scale back from there. You could go way more nuanced (adding extra mons to important battles and adding some tricksy moves etc.) but somebody is gonna have to sit down and do all that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:20:44 No.16833466 Report

Quoted By: >>16833504

I will always love snakewood for that ballsy jynx and murkrow in rustboro. Be more. Be snakewood

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:22:18 No.16833482 Report

Quoted By:

>>16833458
Well then they're hardcore retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:22:18 No.16833483 Report

Quoted By:

>>16833458
No we weren't we wanted hail on first route and brolacari to lead Dawns team in the fireheart temple

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:23:04 No.16833497 Report

Quoted By:

>>16833458
i don't see what you are implying. giving the champion level 100 pokemon is not the same as slowing down exp gain for all pokemon.

also the only milestone i know of is the e4, who i think are slated to have pokemon around 75? maybe the rematches will be higher level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:23:25 No.16833504 Report

Quoted By: >>16833541

>>16833466
>You awake in what used to be Littleroot town, having no memory of how you got there or even who you really are. It soon becomes apparent however that something very big has happened while you were out: Hoenn has been invaded by an army of zombies.
>zombies

stopped reading there

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:24:57 No.16833514 Report

Quoted By:

>>16833407
No, it just tries to make it less likely that you'll be overleveled for fights.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:26:34 No.16833541 Report

Quoted By:

>>16833504
Try playing it. Its hard as balls

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:40:19 No.16833786 Report

Quoted By:

>>16833407
It's a non issue if you scale it properly.

ie: raise the wild pokemon's levels so grinding isn't necessary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:21:28 No.16834451 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832602
Late 20's Soviet Steel Gym Leader seems like a best fit, especially if there is still that bit about her sister being in charge of the business side of things and serving as a Mr.Stone-type character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:35:01 No.16834630 Report

Quoted By: >>16834644 >>16834737 >>16834886

I've been working on getting gen /vp/ mons on my server, and I've got, uh, something working.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/theswamp-genvptier-1803

It's ugly and gross as sin right now (sets have to be typed in manually/can't just use team builder/no sprites), but it's something. Only Florresum and Flairees are in right now. Continue?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:36:11 No.16834644 Report

Quoted By:

>>16834630
You can if you want, but we have Pokemon Online for this kind of stuff. But it wouldn't hurt to get Showdown

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:43:49 No.16834737 Report

Quoted By: >>16834909

>>16834630
>http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/theswamp-genvptier-1803
why not use the sprites from the wiki?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:55:16 No.16834886 Report

Quoted By:

>>16834630
Yes, please, I'm a pleb who can't get PO to work on my mobile devices, a showdown option would be much appreciated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:56:29 No.16834909 Report

Quoted By: >>16834932 >>16835067

>>16834737

sprites are uploaded clientside. For me to implement sprites, I'd have to be running my own client, instead of just a server. That is unlikely to happen, so we'd probably have to deal with no sprites, unless I can figure out a workaround.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 06:57:51 No.16834932 Report

Quoted By:

>>16834909
oh lame

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:09:33 No.16835067 Report

Quoted By: >>16835306 >>16835598

>>16834909
you telling me that...Sam kicked me off making a Showdown server to use PO...to go back to fucking Showdown?

what THE FUCK

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:25:28 No.16835306 Report

Quoted By: >>16835337

>>16835067
>kicked you off
Explain?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:27:56 No.16835337 Report

Quoted By: >>16835404 >>16835669

>>16835306
well not technically kicked me off.

Sam Spade recruited me to run a showdown server, and we were having trouble with it. I finally get a person to help us and he tells me "Oh, yeah no, we're using Pokemon Online now"

and now we're back to Showdown?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:32:52 No.16835404 Report

Quoted By: >>16835428

>>16835337
ah well righto then, sam's a doodle you should know that by now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:35:07 No.16835428 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835404
that was when i first found out. that was back when i contributed.

anyways, im done taking up useless characters for my ranting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:46:50 No.16835534 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832715
The middle ages already happened, bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:53:37 No.16835598 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835067
Shame faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 07:58:06 No.16835669 Report

Quoted By:

>>16835337
Between Sams bullshit with servers and Majora's rant, I officially miss him. The unsummonable one. Or is this too much dicksucking sam?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 08:40:03 No.16836029 Report

Quoted By: >>16836354

This is a weird one. Did some basic shading of the sprite on the wiki, missing the swirls on the grey of the neck because I can't make it not look shit... but they're not that important so whatever. Any urgent changes that need to be made or should I wiki it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 08:42:25 No.16836053 Report

Quoted By: >>16836220

is it just me or is Baboom's sprite really goofy looking

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:03:21 No.16836220 Report

Quoted By:

>>16836053
It's retrodex quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:12:33 No.16836279 Report

Quoted By: >>16836357

>>16832082
Ask mom about birds and bees, and it will stop being beyond you.
I'll raise you a counterquestion. Why do you think we made our MCs 18 year old?
Because we are filthy porn enablers, that's why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:13:06 No.16836282 Report

Quoted By: >>16836393 >>16836399

Don't shoot me down for this, just an idea:

In the demo it might be a good idea to include a secret konami code-esque cheat that can only be implemented after you beat foster that gives you infinite rare candies. Maybe the trashcan in your room is suddenly filled with rc or if you activate a certain random tile in one of the towns and a courier or something gives you a box.

This would only be to show players what the pokemon evolve into without them having to grind for days getting a pyroat to evolve.

Another way to do this would be a book in the professor's lab, acting as a sort of local pokedex, with a page for each of the 32 pokemon in the demo. Then you don't have to give the player a stupid ability to make their team lvl 100 after the first gym, even though it's a demo, but oh well...

Just dead hour idea rants

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:23:06 No.16836354 Report

Quoted By: >>16836363

>>16836029
The neck should be more stretched out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:23:31 No.16836357 Report

Quoted By:

>>16836279
They're not 18.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:25:09 No.16836363 Report

Quoted By: >>16836387

>>16836354
Like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:29:36 No.16836387 Report

Quoted By: >>16836408

>>16836363
I think he meant with the head sticking up further, chin up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:30:03 No.16836393 Report

Quoted By: >>16836399 >>16836430

>>16836282
how about you just grind gud
we will probably just post a smaller version of opdex
will any of the demo mons have stone evo or something? We should then make sure they are in demo.
>>16833214
After you defeat Quetzar you wonder why people don't consider you a hero. Cue pokeman&you scene: http://www.mangapanda.com/onepunch-man/15/22 and a postgame quest fighting wannabe faggots in pants to get to the top.

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:31:43 No.16836399 Report

Quoted By:

>>16836282
Pawter please.

>>16836393
It would easier to see the evolutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:32:43 No.16836408 Report

Quoted By:

>>16836387
Oh... well I just took it from the wiki. I'm not really willing to make major changes like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 09:35:02 No.16836430 Report

Quoted By:

>>16836393
>grinding against level 4 bluffins
I'm not against the small OPdex, I sketched the one with the shitty black background. But that doesn't give the player an idea of what they'll look like in game.

I know you can do the infinite rare candies easily in rmxp and the "poke-field guide" would be more resource intensive on pawter and mage.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 10:26:45 No.16836708 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832806

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 11:34:49 No.16837007 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832806

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 11:36:44 No.16837018 Report

Quoted By:

Requestan tileanon's imgur

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 11:55:50 No.16837099 Report

Quoted By: >>16837255

>>16832806
[HAPPENING INTESIFIES]

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 12:30:36 No.16837255 Report

Quoted By: >>16837264 >>16837398 >>16837403

>>16837099
Just whipped this up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 12:33:53 No.16837264 Report

Quoted By:

>>16837255
10/10

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 12:38:32 No.16837273 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832473
>Let's just say I never knew Snorlax was native to Urobos
Goddamn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 12:43:59 No.16837290 Report

Quoted By: >>16837304 >>16837314

fat activists and feminists pls go

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 12:47:53 No.16837304 Report

Quoted By:

>>16837290
Not everyone talking about women is a tumblr level retard. Besides, everyone has gone.

ded thred general

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 12:48:12 No.16837314 Report

Quoted By:

>>16837290
you're imagining things m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 12:54:18 No.16837351 Report

Quoted By: >>16837363

>>16831273
This mon suffers the Pokeaus syndrome

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 12:56:47 No.16837363 Report

Quoted By: >>16837390

>>16837351
And that is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:00:21 No.16837390 Report

Quoted By: >>16837408

>>16837363
Real animal with a paintjob.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:01:12 No.16837398 Report

Quoted By: >>16837403

>>16837255
I'm on a roll tonight

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:01:44 No.16837403 Report

Quoted By: >>16837423

>>16837255
>>16837398
Now make a pawter-gate one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:02:25 No.16837408 Report

Quoted By: >>16837424

>>16837390
Peppit is an older design though, you can easily spot the level of detail of pokemon made earlier or later in the project

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:04:17 No.16837423 Report

Quoted By: >>16837431 >>16837444

>>16837403
elaborate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:04:41 No.16837424 Report

Quoted By:

>>16837408
just saying dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:05:24 No.16837431 Report

Quoted By: >>16837436

>>16837423
Pawter is water/electric and has thunder

Drizzle is one of his abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:06:02 No.16837436 Report

Quoted By: >>16837442

>>16837431
no no I mean the image

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:06:52 No.16837442 Report

Quoted By:

>>16837436
oh, not the same anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:07:29 No.16837444 Report

Quoted By: >>16837453 >>16837797

>>16837423
Make Baboom resign as president with Pawter soon to take over

Man, Baboom. Mons that'll never be used general?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:08:54 No.16837453 Report

Quoted By:

>>16837444
baboom is still good without drizzle

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:09:44 No.16837455 Report

Quoted By: >>16837461 >>16837480

So which mons is guaranteed for OU?
I know pawter, Diamat and Aguanaut is

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:10:50 No.16837461 Report

Quoted By: >>16837472

>>16837455
>better make sure these gets nerfed beyond recognition
And what's so good about pawter and Diamat?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:13:02 No.16837472 Report

Quoted By: >>16837480 >>16837491

>>16837461
Carnibal. I don't know what the average speed is though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:14:04 No.16837480 Report

Quoted By:

>>16837472
Misquoted, meant to quote: >>16837455

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:15:50 No.16837491 Report

Quoted By: >>16837516 >>16837578

>>16837472
When will we catch Carnibal anyway. He seems like such an endgame mon. Is he in victory road?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:19:08 No.16837516 Report

Quoted By: >>16837578

>>16837491
>Is he in victory road?
yep

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:23:09 No.16837547 Report

Quoted By:

>>16832671
This is probably a large undertaking, but...

Could somebody remake this in a sprite like style? Like the opening animation with Platikhao and Jaguile? I'm helping QB with the opening animation, and I think it would work well there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:28:38 No.16837578 Report

Quoted By: >>16837586

>>16837491
>>16837516
Sounds about right. He might be a threat with that attack+crunch+ability, but he's 4x weak to fighting and his speed isn't that incredible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 13:31:42 No.16837586 Report

Quoted By:

>>16837578
yep mach punch ocerumi should kill it.
Anyway movests aren't final, they'll need playtesing

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 14:01:59 No.16837797 Report

Quoted By: >>16837887 >>16837950 >>16838299

>>16837444

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 14:13:50 No.16837887 Report

Quoted By:

>>16837797

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 14:21:27 No.16837950 Report

Quoted By:

>>16837797
>tfw it gets better as you keep reading

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 14:54:26 No.16838178 Report

Quoted By: >>16838237

So, all this talk of the sprite limit got me wondering:

Do GF sprites stay under the limit?
So, I went and got the sprites to various pokemon and color sampled them, and here's what I found, excluding black/white/transparency. 13 is our limit.

Blastoise: 12(d/p/pt) 13(HG/SS)
Pidgeot: 12(D/p/pt) 12(HG/SS)
Araidos: 13 (D/p/pt) 18 (HG/SS)
Raikou: 13(d/p/pt) 11(HG/SS)
Entei: 13 (D/P/PT) 13(HG/SS)
Suicuine: 13 (D/P/pt) 13(HG/SS)
Armaldo: 12 (all)
Cradily: 11 (all)
Giratina (A): 13 (All) (really 12 because no white)
Giratina (O): 14 (All) (really 13 because no white)
Regigas: 13(D/p) 13 (PT/HG/SS)
Sigilyph: 10
Cofagirus: 10
Tornadus: 11

So, out of all the ones I checked, the only one that really was over the limit was ariados in HG/SS which was 18 colors, not including black/white/transparency.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 15:04:11 No.16838237 Report

Quoted By: >>16838249

>>16838178
Jynx, Yanma, Entei, and Ho-oh have 16. Mr. Mime, Slowking, and Raikou, have 15. Haven't looked at gen 3 to 5. Not sure where you got 18 from Ariados, both HGSS and BW show 15 for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 15:06:27 No.16838249 Report

Quoted By: >>16838267

>>16838237
>Not sure where you got 18 from Ariados, both HGSS and BW show 15 for me
There are a few pixels here and there that are very similar to other colors in the sprite for ariados.

It's important that if you are looking at the color map, that you aren't counting duplicate colors.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 15:08:48 No.16838267 Report

Quoted By:

>>16838249
This says otherwise. It might be the quality of the sprite you're looking at.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 15:12:05 No.16838299 Report

Quoted By:

>>16837797
Thanks, anon kun, this' great

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 15:14:35 No.16838314 Report

Quoted By: >>16838328

Why is not Trenchula steel/bug?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 15:16:30 No.16838328 Report

Quoted By: >>16838351

>>16838314
because it has no steel on/in it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 15:20:48 No.16838351 Report

Quoted By: >>16838362

>>16838328
what is the butt made of then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 15:21:55 No.16838362 Report

Quoted By:

>>16838351
exoskeleton

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 16:39:25 No.16839016 Report

Quoted By: >>16839024 >>16839037 >>16839058 >>16839062 >>16839074 >>16839107 >>16839171 >>16839211 >>16839364 >>16839736 >>16840299

Here's the Sugi art for Snogre and Cowatti I was working on, along with the fixed Snome that anon cleaned up last thread. (Thanks again for fixing it!)

If anything needs to be fixed, just let me know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 16:40:11 No.16839024 Report

Quoted By:

>>16839016
Post full resolutions pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 16:40:54 No.16839037 Report

Quoted By:

>>16839016
They look amazing.
Thank you Sugi anon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 16:43:00 No.16839058 Report

Quoted By:

>>16839016
HARRY WEVE HIT THE JACKPOT

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 16:43:26 No.16839062 Report

Quoted By: >>16839171

>>16839016
Looks lovely. Snogre is a joy to look at, but my eyes got a little confused on Cowatti. It feels like the nose and the tail is a bit off angle. I might not be clear enough.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 16:44:29 No.16839074 Report

Quoted By:

>>16839016
That Snogre

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 16:47:58 No.16839107 Report

Quoted By:

>>16839016
We got too many good looking ice pokemon. It balances out with how shit the ice bird is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 16:56:43 No.16839171 Report

Quoted By: >>16839365

>>16839016
>>16839062
>it feels like the nose
Sorry about that, looking at the official art the nose is actually like that. Still something feels off with the tail though, as if the attachment on its right side is too high compared to its left side.

SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC

SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:00:16 No.16839207 Report

Quoted By: >>16839223 >>16839242 >>16839255 >>16839260 >>16839334 >>16839370

So, Pokemon Sage people. Quick question.

I'm the map guy for PokeAus (or Pokemon Opal, as some are calling it now). And while I was looking for feedback and ideas for a forest dungeon thingy (like a late-game Viridian Forest equivalent), someone suggested making a super-heug tree with multiple explore-able levels and a legendary at the top.

Now, while this sounded like a neat idea at first, I remembered hearing that you guys were thinking of going with an extremely similar idea for one of your dungeons. And since I don't want to cramp your guys' style or make it seem like we're stealing ideas from you, just wanted to know - are you actually rolling with this dungeon idea?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:01:00 No.16839211 Report

Quoted By: >>16839365

>>16839016
Snogre is amazing, but the Cowatti is a bit odd. The eye is really scrunched up and the perspective on the nose and the tail looks a bit off? Cowatti has a flat rectangular nose, not a triangular one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:03:01 No.16839223 Report

Quoted By: >>16839242 >>16839255 >>16839335

>>16839207
Firstly, I want to say I'm super impressed with how fast you are able to map. You guys have more maps than we do.

As far as your question, we don't know. I would go ahead and do it, without worrying about us.

But that's just my opinion.

Nuttypea

Nuttypea Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:05:23 No.16839242 Report

Quoted By: >>16839335

>>16839207
>>16839223
I'm one of the unofficial big shots in this project, and I recall there being talk of a tree with a Golden Turkistador a good while back... It's probably forgotten, so feel free to use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:07:33 No.16839255 Report

Quoted By: >>16839261 >>16839335

>>16839207
I second>>16839223 with your amazingness of mapping. If Aus falls through please help us here.

Secondly, we don't own a monopoly on dungeons. I personally appreciate you asking us however!! I say as long as you avoid the core concept of foliage and branches being walked on and falling through or build on it more, we should be ok. Rainbow Serpent being at the top would help as well! Have you given any thought to possibly the tree being in a grotto reachable only via a cave network that plays off of the dreamtime?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:08:08 No.16839260 Report

Quoted By: >>16839335

>>16839207
As far as I know, we're still planning on using it. There's been a sprite that was passed around a while ago and improved, but I haven't heard much of it since then.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:08:23 No.16839261 Report

Quoted By:

>>16839255
>!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:16:04 No.16839334 Report

Quoted By:

>>16839207
Noone has any kind of monopoly on the dungeons. Feel free to make your own stuff without asking us for everything!
Hope your project ends up good.

SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC

SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:16:11 No.16839335 Report

Quoted By: >>16839346

>>16839223
>>16839255
>>16839223
Thanks. The reason PokeAus hammers out maps so quick is partly because, to a degree, I have total dictatorial control over the process, and we don't approve each route or town via survey. I just make them, then stick them in the thread and say, "thoughts?"

And then people say, "ooh, that looks nice", or "you need more buildings" or "you should move the pond more to the west". And then I take it on-board and fix it up until thread consensus is more or less achieved. Still, even not taking that stuff into account, it seems I do have a knack for speed. For instance, pic related took me three hours.

>>16839242
>>16839260
I'm gonna err on the side of caution and not use the idea, then. Or, at least, I won't do it at the same scale as you guys, or roll with the same gimmicks. Perhaps something more based off of a big, hollowed-out Strangler Fig...

SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC

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SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:17:15 No.16839346 Report

Quoted By:

>>16839335
Forgot pic.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:19:26 No.16839364 Report

Quoted By: >>16839392

>>16839016
Here, I tried editing the Cowatti. I warped the tail and the face and changed the eyecolour to bluegreen.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:19:35 No.16839365 Report

Quoted By: >>16839384 >>16839472 >>16839473

>>16839171
I'm not really sure how I could fix the tail as it is, so I could probably try drawing it at a different angle.

>>16839211
The eye in the art on its wiki page is pretty scrunched as well, so I was just trying to follow that.

About the nose, nothing I've seen suggests it's flat and rectangular, unless I'm interpreting the wiki image and sprites wrong (which I may be). Even the anon quoted above re-checked and thought it to be design accurate, so I'm not sure which is correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:20:09 No.16839370 Report

Quoted By:

>>16839207
As far as I know, we are still planning on using it.
I *think* our tile person has even started it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:21:54 No.16839384 Report

Quoted By:

>>16839365
Huh. I always thought the nose was like the right image. No matter, it looks fine either way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:22:33 No.16839392 Report

Quoted By: >>16839398 >>16839472

>>16839364
Looks good to me! If others agree this looks better than my previous version I could start cleaning it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:23:44 No.16839398 Report

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>>16839392
download fraps and record a session of you making one of these pls

Or at least tell us your process, what software you use, brush settings, etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:24:16 No.16839400 Report

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>>16828851

Why argue when you can vote?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:27:39 No.16839430 Report

Quoted By: >>16839439

Does anyone have any Bug Samurai (or any other leader) designs?
I would like to post the proposed ones on the wiki.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:28:09 No.16839433 Report

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>>16832951

Why the hell did we not call these things titans?

Jumps on the bandwagon for attack on titan, plus it sets them more apart from the Regis (if only in title)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:29:07 No.16839439 Report

Quoted By: >>16839460

>>16839430
how about a mecha bug samurai? Would borrow a little from the scientist, and maybe it was the scientist that made it for him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:30:46 No.16839460 Report

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>>16839439
Don't ask me, I'm just posting designs on the wiki.
I recommend just drawing what you have in mind then posting it here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:32:13 No.16839472 Report

Quoted By: >>16839516

>>16839392
>>16839365
i like the edits. I'd say go ahead and clean it up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:32:26 No.16839473 Report

Quoted By: >>16839572

>>16839365

It's a case where being Sugi'd there is some slight alteration (nose is slightly bigger, body is a bit fatter, collar is't as fluffy) but I'd be happy it going in as is.

Kinda miss it's thumb tho.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Cowatti Sugi 300dpi Fixed.png, 519KiB, 1888x1490

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:38:17 No.16839516 Report

Quoted By: >>16839603

>>16839472
Here it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:38:19 No.16839517 Report

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We are on page 9 just so everyone knows.
We may need a new thread soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:38:42 No.16839523 Report

Quoted By: >>16839542

>>16832806

Every piece of dialogue sorted?
Any dex entries not done yet?

Pawter !RROBpqntz.

Pawter !RROBpqntz. Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:38:45 No.16839526 Report

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The Pebblosa line and Cowatti cries still need to be made!

Also, if DJSubPunch is here, please make your Harpee line cries downloadable; the other ones I have are so quiet in-game that they're basically inaudible.

Pawter !RROBpqntz.

Pawter !RROBpqntz. Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:39:48 No.16839542 Report

Quoted By: >>16839764

>>16839523
I'm just about done scripting the events of the first game. Currently working on the Ricardo encounter.

As for Dex entries I believe all the demo mons are done.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO cowattiedit2.png, 527KiB, 2193x1524

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:42:11 No.16839572 Report

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>>16839473
Here it is with a larger collar and a thinner body. I think both work though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:43:55 No.16839603 Report

Quoted By: >>16839736

>>16839516
Excellent anon! You make lovely art, fantastic job.

I'll just be uploading this to the wiki, then. I'll also upload Snogre, although I don't know which Snome to upload.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:57:34 No.16839736 Report

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>>16839603
Just upload the one from >>16839016. It fixes all the mistakes my original one had.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 18:00:23 No.16839764 Report

Quoted By:

>>16839542

Cool. Thanks pawter!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 18:35:02 No.16840299 Report

Quoted By: >>16840377

>>16839016
You said you tried making Snome's lines digitally yesterday I believe. Could you tell me your secret to giving it that marker look?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 18:44:19 No.16840377 Report

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>>16840299
I'm used to looking at my scanned in linework close-up, so I tried to imitate it by having some parts that were thicker/thinner than others.

Basically just making an outline that isn't perfectly clean but still pretty uniform all around (with minor thin/thick parts) is the key. Being more loose/sketchy when drawing the lines rather than super-focused.

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